User talk:Peaceray/archive/2021

Referencing Dead Link

Hello! I'm relatively new to editing here (know how to basic edit, more familiar with the magic words over on FANDOM's platform). On the Charlie Dimmock article, I've added a link to a Wayback Machine article as the website it is from technically no longer exists (redirects to something else). Is there a way to mark the "original" as a dead link? Thanks. EmmerdaleFan1972 (talk) 10:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

EmmerdaleFan1972, hello! The citation templates do this implicitly.

For example, your code is:

{{citation |url=http://www.hollyoaks.com/article.asp?a=06/08/02 |title=Official Hollyoaks Website |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20020819042700/http://www.hollyoaks.com/article.asp?a=06/08/02 |archive-date=19 August 2002 |date=6 August 2002}}

which produces:

Official Hollyoaks Website, 6 August 2002, archived from the original on 19 August 2002

So implicitly, the archived URL appears first if |url-status=dead or if this parameter is not set, & the original URL appears second. Generally it can be assumed that the user will click on the first link. If for "fun & giggles" or by mistake one clicks on the original link, one quickly learns the convention when one fails to retrieve the target page.

Under Template:Citation#URL, it states:

• url-status: this optional parameter is ignored if archive-url is not set. If omitted, or with null value, the default value is |url-status=dead. When the URL is still live, but pre-emptively archived, then set |url-status=live; this changes the display order, with the title retaining the original link and the archive linked at the end. When the original URL has been usurped for the purposes of spam, advertising, or is otherwise unsuitable, setting |url-status=unfit or |url-status=usurped suppresses display of the original URL (but |url= and |archive-url= are still required).

There are situations in which it is good to present the archive link even when the original URL is live by using |url-status=live. I would recommend this in particular for links at television or radio stations, because they often seem to change their website structures, so that the original URL will change to something else or disappear altogether.

I believe it good practice to set |url-status=dead rather than to depend on the default.

I do not recommend using the |url-status=unfit or |url-status=usurped values. I have seen them cause errors. I believe that |url-status=dead suffices for all situations when the original URL is unavailable.

I hope this answer is good enough. It is uncustomary to further mark a URL in a a citation template as dead.

Please let me know if you have any further questions. Peaceray (talk) 06:33, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Dear Peaceray,

Thank you for your assistance. I have done as recommended, and added "|url-status=dead" to the citation. I had expected that "|url-status=dead" may have done something with the "|url=" field. In the late 2000s, the Official Hollyoaks website was closed and redirected to network Channel 4's page on the site (which displays significantly less information), therefore removing all information from that site.

Thanks again,

EmmerdaleFan1972 (talk) 08:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Friday Jan 15: ONLINE Wikipedia Day NYC

January 15, 6pm: Wikimedia NYC celebrates 20 years of Wikipedia

Wikipedia Day is always a big day for Wikimedia NYC. While we cannot meet in person, we still have something special planned. We will begin the event with the debut of a new video celebrating our community. This will be followed by a panel discussion with some of the people you'll see in the video talking about Wikipedia's 20th anniversary, Wikimedia New York City, and the amazing work they do on Wikimedia projects. The event will be broadcast live via YouTube. Feel free to ask questions for the panel through the chat! We will also have some NYC wiki trivia you can participate in, with confectionery prizes. Friday January 15 ONLINE Wikipedia Day NYC. 6:00pm - 7:00 pm online via Wikimedia NYC on YouTube

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 14:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Feedback requests from the Feedback Request Service

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination, and at Talk:2012 Istanbul suicide bombing on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 14:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Removing edit on Margaret Sanger's page

Hi, so I don't think there's anything wrong with being honest and including "eugenicist" in her bio. This is a site to teach people and anyone who doesn't scroll down to the eugenics section, might not be aware of her history in the subject. If you look at any politicians or doctors who have dabbled in this area, they're regularly branded "white supremacists" however while that title could be applied to her too, I thought that might be a bit harsh and used the more restrained term of "eugenicist." This really shouldn't be a problem for someone who legitimately believed in eugenics LetMeSeeYourBones (talk) 17:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

LetMeSeeYourBones, (talk page watcher) comment: Please review the previous discussions at Talk:Margaret Sanger in which editors have discussed this suggestion. (The archives of the talk page have older discussions about it.) If you have new arguments to make in support of your edit, you should start a new discussion and see if you get consensus from other editors. Schazjmd (talk) 17:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

LetMeSeeYourBones, the question is about what are the things for which Margaret Sanger is notable.That is what should be in the lead sentence. Advocating eugenics is hardly high up on the list. There are many influential eugenicists that do not have "eugenicist" in the lead sentence; there is no reason why we would make an exception for someone for whom eugenics was not a primary focus.

My suspicion is that by adding the eugenicist label to the lead sentence is in reality an attempt to denigrate the progress that she made with birth control, Planned Parenthood, & women's rights. Please see WP:LABEL in this regard.

I would invite you to open a discussion on Talk:Margaret Sanger if you feel otherwise. That way other editors could see & comment the discussion. First, I would advise you to read or review MOS:LEADSENTENCE, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, WP:UNDUE, & WP:EDITCONSENSUS. Peaceray (talk) 17:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello! I just wanted to thank you very much for reaching out to me with such helpful information that I really needed... Have a wonderful day and Stay Awesome

Sincerely AnestisM. Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷 Anestis99 (talk) 22:45, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Post by Scott B Love

Hello Peaceray,

This is Scott B Love. Thank you for your comment on my Climate Change suggestion. Is this the best to respond? I hope so. Anyway, my suggestion seems to have been erased with no comment that I can find. I went back to the Climate Change (talk) section and saw no mention of it. Can you find the reason what I wrote was deleted without a comment on why it was deleted?

What I wrote was the following. I idea is to describe an "ideal mathematically average" world citizen and how their CO2 emissions must decrease to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees C. I think we do not understand that to limit human caused global warming to 1.5 degrees C we must not emit more than 14.4 pounds of CO2 per person per day (that is about what the green plants of the world take up for each of us), and we all must not emit any other greenhouse gases in order to end human cause global warming. So, what I suggested for the Climate Change (talk) section was the following:

A Plan to End Human Caused Global Warming and End Human Caused Climate Change to Limit Global Warming to 1.5 Degrees C.

The United Nations Environmental Programme Gap Report says world CO2 emissions must decrease 7.6% a year every year from 2020 to 2030 in order to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees C.  

https://wedocs.unep.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.11822/30797/EGR2019.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

What does this mean to the average world citizen?

We can take the 2019 world CO2 emissions of 36.8 billion metric tonnes and divide it by 7.6 billion people to find out how many tonnes of CO2 the average world citizen emitted in 2019.  We can multiply those tonnes of CO2 by 2205 pounds per tonne, and divide by 365 days per year to find out the average world citizen emitted about 29.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day in 2019.  Decreasing 29.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day by 7.6% every year between 2020 and 2030 shows the average world citizen must emit just 12.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day in 2030.  To limit global warming to 1.5 degrees C the average world citizen must decrease their CO2 emissions from 29.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day in 2019 to 12.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day in 2030.

Everyone can find out how many pounds of CO2 they emitted last year by filling out a carbon calculator like the Cool California Carbon Calculator. 

https://coolcalifornia.arb.ca.gov/calculator-households-individuals

They can multiply the tonnes of CO2 they emitted last year by 2205 pounds per tonne, and divide by 365 days per year to find out their average “pounds of CO2 emitted per person per day” last year.  

In 2030 they can do this and find out if them are emitting just 12.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day.  If the world has learned to take significant amounts of CO2 out of the atmosphere, then people will be able to emit more than 12.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day. 

In 2030 climate scientists can calculate how many pounds of CO2 per day the average world citizen can emit and not contribute to global warming and climate change. 

In 2018 the average Californian emitted about 82 pounds of CO2 per day (California Air Resources Board data). According to the following website, it takes about 10 pounds of CO2 equivalents per day to provide food for the average vegetarian in America, and 20 pounds of CO2 to provide food for a meat loving American each day. 

http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/food-carbon-footprint-diet

(The website says it takes 3.3 tonnes of CO2 per year to provide food for a meat loving American.  Multiplying by 2205 pounds per tonne, and dividing by 365 days per year gives 20 pounds of CO2 per day to provide food for a meat loving American. 

The website says it takes 1.7 tonnes of CO2 to provide food for a vegetarian in America.  Multiplying by 2205 pounds per tonne, and dividing by 365 days per years shows it takes 10 pounds of CO2 per day to provide food for a vegetarian in America.)   Thus, after the average American buys their food for the day, they are emitting more CO2 than the green plants of the earth sequester on their behalf.

When Californians spend $100, that $100 is associated with emitting 37 pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere.  (We can divide California’s per capita CO2 emissions by California’s per capita GDP and find the average $100 spent in California is associated with putting about 37 pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere.)

Also, there are the CO2 emissions of government services.  In 2008 MIT Professor Timothy Gutowski estimated that local, state and federal government services in the United States emitted about 8.5 tonnes of CO2 for every American citizen. Multiplying 8.5 tonnes by 2205 pounds per tonne and dividing by 365 days per year shows that government services emitted about 51 pounds of CO2 per American per day in 2008.

When we emit more than 14.4 pounds of CO2 per person per day, we are contributing to global warming and climate change. When we emit more than 14.4 pounds of CO2 per day, we are contributing to the melting of the Himalayan glaciers, and threatening the water supply of 1.5 billion people, including the people of Pakistan and India. The people of Pakistan and India rely on water from the Himalayan glaciers in the form of the Indus River. As global warming continues, the Indus River will get smaller, and India and Pakistan may have nuclear war over water. A nuclear war between India and Pakistan would cause about 1 degree C of global cooling and threaten the lives of 2 billion people. In thinking about global warming and climate change we should take all nuclear weapons off of hair trigger alert and negotiate the end of all nuclear weapons. The IPCC should include nuclear disarmament talks as part of addressing climate change.   It is extremely unlikely Americans will decrease their CO2 emissions from about 100 pounds of CO2 per person per day to 12.3 pounds of CO2 per person per day between 2020 and 2030.

In 2030 what can world citizens do to end global warming and limit global warming to 1.5 degrees C? It is easiest to talk about this by thinking about what Jesus the scientist was trying to do. Jesus believed the Curses of Deuteronomy were the result of sin. Jesus believed sin began when Adam and Eve ate an apple grown in a garden. Gardens are places where food is grown for people. To stop sin, Jesus recommended to live according to "lay not your treasures up on earth where rot and (the fungus) rust doth corrupt and thieves break in an steal." To stop sin, Jesus recommended not growing food in gardens and storing it where it will rot and thieves will want to steal it. Jesus was recommending living as hunter gatherers like the Khoisan hunter gatherers of Africa. Jesus was implying agriculture was a mistake, much like U.C.L.A Professor Jared Diamond has written agriculture was the worst mistake in the history of the human race.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/the-worst-mistake-in-the-history-of-the-human-race

To help people live as hunter gatherers, Jesus lay down his life for his sheep. By suffering a very painful death by crucifixion, Jesus hoped others would lay down their lives for his sheep in less painful ways (like falling on their sword, like Brutus fell on his sword.) Today we might have Physician Assisted Acts of Altruism which would help us reach a population where there would be no human cause global warming and no human caused climate change and no worsening of the Curses of Deuteronomy.

How many people must lay down their lives for the sheep of Jesus so that there would be no human caused global warming and no human caused climate change? (How many people must lay down their lives for the sheep of Jesus so there would be no worsening of the Curses of Deuteronomy?)

The following website (Figure 1) says the earth sequesters about half of world CO2 emissions.

https://phys.org/news/2012-08-earth-absorbing-carbon-dioxide-emissions.html

Half of world CO2 emissions of 36.2 billion metric tonnes of CO2 comes to about 18.1 billion metric tonnes.

We can take the 18.1 billion metric tonnes of CO2 sequestered by the green plants of the world, and divide it by a state or country's per capita CO2 emissions to find out how many people can live on earth without increasing atmospheric CO2. California’s per capita CO2 emissions were 9.26 metric tonnes of CO2 in 2016. If everyone in the world emitted 9.26 metric tonnes of CO2 per year, 1.95 billion people could live on earth without contributing to global warming. That would represent a 74% decrease in the world’s population. If California’s population decreased 74%, California’s population would need to decrease from 39.25 million people to 7.31 million people to live sustainably on earth without raising atmospheric CO2.

The following Table uses 18.1 billion metric tonnes of CO2 sequestered (taken up) by the green plants of the world to calculate how many people would need to lay down their life for the sheep of Jesus to stop raising atmospheric CO2. Who are the sheep of Jesus? The sheep of Jesus are those who live as Jesus suggested, and live according to "lay not your treasures up on earth where rot and (the fungus) rust doth corrupt and thieves break in an steal." The sheep of Jesus are those who live as hunter gatherers like the Khoisan hunter gatherers of Africa.

State or Country  population           The number of people who
                  (millions of people) must lay down their lives
                                       for the sheep of Jesus.
.......................................(in millions of people)

Australia    24.13            22
Bhutan        0.7            0
California    39.25            32
China        1379                    1070
India        1324            123
Pakistan    193.2                   0 (-177)
United Kingdom    65.65                   50
United States    327            293

How might this information best be taught? Health care organizations could offer computer counseling services. Artifical Intelligence computers like IBM Watson could engage citizens, offering them encouragement and teaching them Albert Einstein's new way of thinking.

Albert Einstein wrote “We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if mankind is to survive“.

“A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.”

What helps us widen our circles of compassion for all life? Does it help to realize life is a (science based) miracle? We might define a (science based) miracle as an event of extremely small probability. Life is a (science based) miracle.

If there is more than one universe, it would take 10^10^10^7 other universes for there to be a universe like ours that can support life.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2009/10/15/123729/physicists-calculate-number-of-universes-in-the-multiverse/

(If life is so precious, how could the world have 13,500 nuclear weapons worldwide ready to destroy all of life?)

We can define acts of (science based) love as “acts which sustain life, acts which enhance life, and/or acts which make life possible.” 

We can “be still and know that I am (science based) love.”

What acts of (science based) love can I experience when I am still?

When I am still, I can feel my heart beat.  Every beat of my heart is an act of (science based) love, for every beat of my heart sustains my life and makes my life possible. 

When I am still, I can feel my chest rise, and air coming into my lungs.  Every breath is an act of love.  Every breath helps sustain my life and make my life possible. 

When I am still, I can move my fingers, and every move of my fingers can be an act of love for my fingers can help feed me and sustain my life.  

When I am still, I can think how to find food.  Finding food is an act of love, for food sustains my life and makes my life possible. 

When I am still, I can feel the beat of my heart.  Every beat of my heart is an act of love, sustaining my life.  

When I am still, I can feel the beat of my heart within my hands.  Every beat of my heart sustains the life of my hands and every cell in my body. 

I can imagine my heart saying the cells of my mind “Our love which art in heaven”

(We can define a (science based) heaven as a place where all the parts of your body (science based) love themselves as they (science based) love all the other parts of your body.  When you heart beats, it is performing acts of (science based) love for all the cells of your heart, keeping them healthy.  When your heart beats, it is performing acts of (science based) love for all the cells of your body, keeping them alive.  All the cells of your body (science based) love your heart, performing their acts of (science based) love that sustain the life of your heart. 

Realizing your body is a (science based) heaven gives us a new appreciation of your body. 

All the organs of your body and all the cells of your body are performing acts of (science based) love that sustain their life, and sustain the life of every other organ and cell in your body.  

The meditation continues "(science based) Hallowed be thy Name"

Something that is Holy is something that sustains life.  The name “holy” and “hallowed” enhance life, and so thinking them and saying them are acts of (science based) love. 

Thy Kingdom come 

(What is the Kingdom of (science based) Love?  We might imagine your consciousness is the King or Queen of all your cells.  Your conscious mind is able to think about each of your cells, and perform acts of (science based) Love to sustain the life of each cell and all your cells.  Within being aware it has happened, your conscious mind is the King or Queen of a (science based) heaven consisting of 27 trillion cells.  We can meditate on this, and imagine how the Kingdom of (science based) Love within your body mind be spread so that all the world of people becomes a Kingdom of (science based) love, like the Kingdom of (science based) Love within your body.   

We can think "May the Kingdom of (science based) Love within my body be realized by my mind.  May the Kingdom of (science based) love within my body give me peace, knowing all the parts of my body will do the best they can to (science based) love all the other parts of my body.)"

Thy will be done 

(May will of (science based) love be done throughout my body.  What is the will of (science based) love?  The will of (science based) love is to perform acts which sustain life, or enhance life, or perform acts which make life possible.)

on earth 

(May the (science based) love within my body help the rest of the world perform acts of (science based) love throughout society here on earth.) 

as it is in (my science based) heaven.  

(As it is in the (science based heaven within my body.)

Give us this day our daily bread 

(May the (science based) love in my mind be successful at finding food and providing food to my heart and all the parts of my body.  May the (science based) love within all the plants that I eat be successful at growing and providing my body with food.)  May the (science based) love within all the animals and living things that I eat be successful at helping them sustain their lives. 

And forgive us our trespasses 

(May the (science based) love within my mind forgive me for not treating others as well as I would like.  May the (science based) love within the minds of others forgive me for not treating them as well as they would like. People may think I did not treat them very well.    I will have trouble forgiving others for not treating me as well as I would like.  They will have trouble forgiving me for not treating them as well as they would like.  We all need this prayer to help forgive ourselves and others for not treating everyone as well as we would like.  )   As we forgive those who trespass against us 

(May I forgive others for not treating me as well as I would like.)

Lead us not into temptation 

(May my thoughts be guided by the (science based) love within my mind so that I am not tempted to mistreat others.)

But deliver us from evil 

(May the (science based) love within my mind be successful at avoiding evil thoughts and evil deeds of others..)

For thine is the Kingdom ((of science based) love.  My mind constructs a world that is my Kingdom.  With effort, I can make my world and my Kingdom a Kingdom of (science based) Love.)

and the power (the (science based) love of every cell in my body produces the power that gives me thoughts.))

and the glory ((the (science based) love within my body produces whatever glory I might recognize.)  Glory is defined as "magnificence or great beauty.”  This meditation on (science based) love can help us recognize whatever magnificence or beauty we might recognize.  How do the 37 trillion cells of our body form a thought magnificent or beautiful.  How do the cells of our eye perceive a picture that is magnificent or beautiful?  These are mysteries we take for granted.  This meditation might remind us of this great mystery.)

Without all these comments the meditation on the Love within us and around us simpler. 

“Our love which art in heaven Hallowed be thy Name Thy Kingdom come  Thy will be done  on earth  as it is in heaven.  

Give us this day our daily bread  And forgive us our trespasses  As we forgive those who trespass against us  Lead us not into temptation  But deliver us from evil  For thine is the Kingdom  and the power  and the glory forever. 

So, would you have suggestions for editing this to make it part of the Wikipedia Climate Change page?

Will I receive an email notice when you respond to this message?

Thank you for your help,

Scott B Love Scott B Love (talk) 21:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC) --Scott B Love (talk) 21:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

WP:EW at Billy Tipton

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Newimpartial (talk) 22:20, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

@Newimpartial: With this edit on your talk page, I asked you to refrain from reverting the Billy Tipton & informed you that there was already a discussion on the very issue on which you were reverting. After you ignored that request & reverted again before responding to my comments, I reverted your 2nd revert & placed the more forceful {{uw-ew}} on your talk page with this edit. Since then, I saw that you reverted the Billy Tipton article for a third time, left this {{uw-ew}} here, then removed my warning with this edit.

As per WP:OWNTALK, you are well within your rights to remove a warning. As OWNTALK indicates, Although archiving is preferred, users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages. Users may also remove some content in archiving. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. This specifically includes both registered and unregistered users. (Many new users believe they can hide critical comments by deleting them. This is not true: Such comments can always be retrieved from the page history.)

I am choosing to leave your warning here, although you are welcome to retract it by removing this section in its entirety. As I placed the warning on your page, you must have full well realized that I know what the uw-ew template is. Indeed, I fully know its meaning, & I place it rarely, only when I see someone who appears to be edit-warring by reversion and refusing to partake in the talk page discussion while doing so. I can only conclude by your behavior that this warning was retaliatory & insincere, in that it is evident that I know about the warning template & its content, & that you were engaged in the very behavior which you accuse me of & for which I warned you about. It is difficult for me to assume good faith in this matter. Unless you remove this section, I am leaving this warning & discussion in place for others (WP:TPS & also admins if it becomes necessary) to witness. Peaceray (talk) 23:13, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Re:Welcome

Hi, thanks for the welcome. I don't usually edit on Wikipedia in English because I don't handle English very well because speaking in Spanish. Goodbye Wikiviciao (talk) 19:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Help on Wikiproject Climate change project

Hi,

any chance you want to help out on increasing coverage and info on this ? Carbon sink upscaling additional info on carbon sink upscaling (missing info) --Genetics4good (talk) 16:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Marianne Means on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 00:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-05

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• IPv6 addresses were written in lowercase letters in diffs. This caused dead links since Special:Contributions only accepted uppercase letters for the IPs. This has been fixed. [1]

Changes later this week

• You can soon use Wikidata to link to pages on the multilingual Wikisource. [2]
• Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. This can be used to avoid a line break. You will now be able to add new ones via the special character tool in the 2010, 2017, and visual editors. The character will be shown in the visual editor as a space with a grey background. [3][4]
• Wikis use abuse filters to stop bad edits being made. Filter maintainers can now use syntax like 1.2.3.4 - 1.2.3.55 as well as the 1.2.3.4/27 syntax for IP ranges. [5]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 February. It will be on all wikis from 4 February (calendar).

Future changes

• Minerva is the skin Wikimedia wikis use for mobile traffic. When a page is protected and you can't edit it you can normally read the source wikicode. This doesn't work on Minerva on mobile devices. This is being fixed. Some text might overlap. This is because your community needs to update MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext to work on mobile. You can read more. [6][7]
• Cloud VPS and Toolforge will change the IP address they use to contact the wikis. The new IP address will be 185.15.56.1. This will happen on February 8. You can read more.

Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.

22:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Byzantine–Venetian treaty of 1277 on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 10:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Google Cloud logo.png

⚠

Thanks for uploading File:Google Cloud logo.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 03:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Y As noted on the file talk page, this file has been superseded by File:Google Cloud logo.svg & may be deleted. 03:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Rip slayer It krieg (talk) 14:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

February 17: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

February 17, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! This month will include a discussion of Black WikiHistory Month in February, plans for WikiWomen's History Month in March, and of course the great work that is being done in these topical areas throughout the year. We will also have a relevant demonstration of the Wikipedia:Did you know process. If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or responding to this message. Wednesday February 17 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 01:21, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thursday Feb 25: ONLINE Black Wiki History Month at the Schomburg Center

Feb 25, 1:30-5pm: Black Wiki History Month at the Schomburg Center

You are invited to join the AfroCROWD and Wikimedia NYC communities for the 7th year of this edit-a-thon, this time being held in a virtual format. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page, and register on the form to get the Zoom link. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! Thursday Feb 25 Black Wiki History Month at the Schomburg Center (optional RSVP on-wiki). 1:30pm - 5:30 pm online, register on the form to get the Zoom link

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 07:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia - Editathon 2021

Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia - Editathon 2021 Friday, February 26, 2021, 1:00-5:00 PM PST with Oregon State University, Education Opportunities Program, and AfroCROWD Guest Speaker: Spelman College's Alexandria Lockett "Click here to register directly on OSU's site".

Cascadia Wikimedians placed this banner at 03:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC) by using the Wikipedia:Meetup/Portland/Participants list.
To subscribe to or unsubscribe from messages from Wikipedia:Meetup/Portland, please add or remove your name here.

Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia - Editathon 2021

Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia - Editathon 2021 Friday, February 26, 2021, 1:00-5:00 PM PST with Oregon State University, Education Opportunities Program, and AfroCROWD Guest Speaker: Spelman College's Alexandria Lockett "Click here to register directly on OSU's site".

Cascadia Wikimedians placed this banner at 03:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC) by using the Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle/Invitees list.
To subscribe to or unsubscribe from messages from Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle, please add or remove your name here.

Homophobia in "Chespirito" article

Caracol Television isn't a reliable source?, why?. --Eightbenny (talk) 21:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Sir, that isn't "disruptive editing", please, stop texting templated messages, you not have valid reasons in absolute. --Eightbenny (talk) 21:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Eightbenny: There is nothing that I can find in the translated text to indicate why Chespirito should be in Category:Discrimination against LGBT people in Mexico. On https://www.canalrcn.com/el-chavo-del-8/capitulos/el-chavo-del-8-capitulos-la-conquista-del-profesor-jirafales-175 itself, the link to what I assume is a video has been replaced by a message, Private content. We're sorry, but we cannot display this content because it has been labelled private by its author.

Please read & heed WP:Reliable sources & WP:No original research, particularly Primary, secondary and tertiary sources. Until you edit the article to include the appropriate text about LGBT discrimination & a reliable secondary or tertiary source, you will find yourself reverted.

Concerning WP:WARNING templates, they are accepted project-wide as a means to warn editors who fail to adhere to English Wikipedia policies & guidelines. They are only considered uncivil when placed on the talk pages of substantially experienced editors, excepting editors who are egregiously violating Wikipedia policies & guidelines.

As of this post, you have over 101 edits on all Wikimedia projects & 61 in English Wikipedia. I would venture to say that this makes you a neophyte. While I do my best not to not bite newcomers, I cannot let violations to English Wikipedia policies & guidelines to go unchallenged. Peaceray (talk) 22:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks sir!. Good job writing all it. --Eightbenny (talk) 22:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Sat Mar 6: Met Women's History Month Virtual Edit Meet-up

March 6, 12:30pm: Met Women's History Month Virtual Edit Meet-up

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community and the Metropolitan Museum of Art for our The Met x Wikipedia Virtual Edit Meet-up: Women's History Month. We will be partially coordinating with Art+Feminism and all of the International Women's Day and Women's History Month campaigns. Watch and join the livestream! The Metropolitan Museum of Art event on Saturday Mar 6 will host a tutorial and question-and-answer session live on YouTube and other social media platforms. 12:30 pm - 1:30 pm - Presentation 1:30 pm - 2:30 pm - Guidance and Q&A Chat about improving articles! Support will be provided to help guide new editors in this area at Wikimedia Gender Gap Editing Chat for the duration of the campaign. The Met x Wikipedia Virtual Edit Meet-up: Women’s History Month (Metropolitan Museum of Art)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 01:54, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Sat Mar 13: Asia Art Archive in America: Art and Feminism Edit-a-thon

March 13, 12-5pm: Asia Art Archive in America: Art and Feminism Edit-a-thon

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community and Asia Art Archive for our fourth annual (and first virtual) Asia Art Archive in America: Art and Feminism Edit-a-thon! Organized by Asia Art Archive in America and NaPupila in collaboration with Asia Art Archive in Hong Kong and supported by Wikimedia NYC, this event brings together participants to discuss, create, share, and improve Wikipedia articles about women and non-binary artists. We will be partially coordinating with Art+Feminism and all of the International Women's Day and Women's History Month campaigns. Register and join the virtual event! 12:00 pm - 5:00 pm - Register ahead of time on Zoom to get the video link P.S. Next WikiWednesday You are also invited to join our March 17 WikiWednesday next week with a Saint Patrick's Day guest speaker from Wikimedia Community Ireland.

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 00:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

March 17: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC with Wikimedia Community Ireland for St Patrick's Day

March 17, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC with Wikimedia Community Ireland for St Patrick's Day

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! As this WikiWednesday coincides with Saint Patrick's Day, we will have a guest speaker from Wikimedia Community Ireland, about Irish-language Wikipedia, the efforts of the community in Ireland, and personal work on historical biographies with a special Irish-New York connection. This month will also include a discussion of Black WikiHistory Month in February and WikiWomen's History Month and Art+Feminism in March, and of course the great work that is being done in these topical areas throughout the year. If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page. Wednesday March 17 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 14:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there once again, Peaceray, and welcome to Women in Red. I'm glad to see you now intend to spend more of you editing time writing about women and helping to organize editathons. In connection with your proposed focus on centenarians, you could mention it on our Ideas page. If you have not already done so, you might find it useful to look through our Primer for creating women's biographies. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 11:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Ipigott, thanks for the welcome! My very first edit was to create a stub article, Marie of Savoy, Duchess of Milan, over eleven years ago. Along the way I have created Violante Visconti, Beatrice Lascaris di Tenda, Nettie Craig Asberry, & Frede (cabaret manager), plus I have edited / improved many women's biographies as well. I have also participated in Art+Feminism edit-a-thons & GLAM events like Edits for Women 2020. Thus I am not a stranger to to creating or improving women's biographies; I am just now declaring it. Peaceray (talk) 17:01, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | March 2021, Volume 7, Issue 3, Numbers 184, 186, 188, 192, 193 Online events: New: Art+Activism | VisibleWikiWomen Contest (Jan/Feb/Mar): Africa Year-long campaign: Women's rights Continuing: #1day1woman Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage | Help us plan future events Become a member | Opt-out of notifications Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Ipigott (talk) 11:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Feedback requests from the Feedback Request Service

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Calvin E. Lightner on a "History" Good Article nomination, and at Talk:SpaceX on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 04:33, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

April editathons from Women in Red

Women in Red | April 2021, Volume 7, Issue 4, Numbers 184, 188, 194, 195, 196 Online events: New: Plants & gardens | Gender studies New Contest (Apr/May/Jun): Women in Europe contest Year-long campaign: Women's rights Continuing: #1day1woman Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage | Help us plan future events Become a member | Opt-out of notifications Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:17, 22 March 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

reviewing

I answered your question at Draft talk:Christine Muschik. But as general advice: 1) The rules for academics are different. You/re not trying to show substantial 3rd party reliable published sources, not press releases or blogs or postings or mere notices , you're trying to show "Influence in their field". Papers with high citations show an influence in their field. It's the very definition of what academic influence is: that people cite your work. As a rule of thumb, in biomed we want two or more papers over 100. it only works in science. In the humanities,we want 2 books from university or other academic presses, with 3rd party book reviews. 2) For GNG, it's not quantity of references that matter See WP:THREE, the best explanation I know of for what the GNG means in practice; you may have seen it cited at AfDs--it's a very short, but very influential essay. DGG ( talk ) 06:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Abdullah Mirza Qajar on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 09:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Cone Mills Corporation on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 17:30, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Question

I had a question: is it possible, witout losing all of your edits, change your username? I fear I may have chosen mine badly. Sincerely, Orlando 2006-2021 (talk) 17:34, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

@Orlando 2006-2021: You can find the instructions for changing your username at WP:RENAME. Pertinent to your question, A rename moves your contributions and userspace pages to a new name, and preserves your account preferences. Peaceray (talk) 19:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I will do that now. Orlando 2006-2021 (talk) 10:04, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Removing edit on Church of England's page

Hi, Peaceray. First, I wanted to start by saying that I am relatively new to this platform. In the Church of England article, you have undone my correction with respect to the classification and orientation of the Anglican Church. As far as I knew, the classification within the Protestant movement of the Anglican Church is correct. I would like to know if something was wrong to fix it or to know if it was right as it was, if it was necessary to post sources or references, I am relatively new to this but all contributed in good faith. Thanks for your attention!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertogomez17 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Albertogomez17, I believe that this is best discussed at Talk:Church of England. In particular, I would direct you to Talk:Church of England#Separated from Roman Catholic Church, in which Dabbler opens the discussion by stating First the Church of England states in the creed and its foundational documents that it is still part of the Catholic Church so it does not agree that it has separated from the Catholic Church, it was separated from that part of the Catholic Church which is controlled from Rome.

I would also direct you to the article on Anglicanism, where the fourth paragraph of the lead starts: In the first half of the 17th century, the Church of England and its associated Church of Ireland were presented by some Anglican divines as comprising a distinct Christian tradition, with theologies, structures, and forms of worship representing a different kind of middle way, or via media, between Protestantism and Catholicism – a perspective that came to be highly influential in later theories of Anglican identity and expressed in the description of Anglicanism as "Catholic and Reformed".

I think there is an assumption that anything that is Christian that is not Catholic is automatically Protestant. I think that is an inaccurate conclusion. However, if you differ in this, you may bring it up at Talk:Church of England, Talk:Anglicanism, and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anglicanism. It would be there that you must change consensus. However, I doubt that you would get much traction with this given that the Church of England's website itself states:

The religious settlement that eventually emerged in the reign of Elizabeth gave the Church of England the distinctive identity that it still has today. It resulted in a Church that consciously retained a large amount of continuity with the Church of the Patristic and Medieval periods in terms of its use of the catholic creeds, its pattern of ministry, its buildings and aspects of its liturgy, but which also embodied Protestant insights in its theology and in the overall shape of its liturgical practice. The way that this is often expressed is by saying that the Church of England is both 'catholic and reformed.'

Peaceray (talk) 05:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Peaceray, thank you for clarifying my doubt. I also thank you in advance for letting me know about the existence of any spaces of my own to discuss my doubts and to contribute data on Anglicanism in general.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertogomez17 (talk • contribs) time, 22:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

References

A cupcake for you!

You are cool YewopmuJ (talk) 20:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Assistance with Michael Freilich (oceanographer)

I recently expanded the article and removed the 'Stub-class' rating. I do not know how to register this change by modifying the article's talk page. Could you help, so I could see how it's done? Thanks! Eonn (talk) 22:33, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

@Eonn: To do this at Talk:Michael Freilich (oceanographer), change the |class=Stub parameter/value in the {{WikiProject Biography}} template to |class=Start. Peaceray (talk) 23:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Chester A. Arthur

Apologies for my fouled-up edits there: as far as I was aware, it was not possible to have the same cite number using multiple page references. Palindromedairy (talk) 00:55, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@Palindromedairy:, yeah, {{sfn}} & {{sfnm}} will have individual footnotes for author-year-page combination, & will allow coalesce those footnotes with the same author-year-page combination. You might want to check out Help:Shortened footnotes. Peaceray (talk) 01:05, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

April 21: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC with with Environmental focus

April 21, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC with Environmental focus

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! As this WikiWednesday is just the day before Earth Day, we will have an environmental focus. If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page. Wednesday April 21 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 00:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi!

I just wanted to thank you for welcoming me in this space before. I am new here and I want to contribute to the growth of this site. greetings! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robgg70 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome! Peaceray (talk) 04:29, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your message! I made a change today by adding a picture to Wendy Carlos' page but it got reversed because it probably had copyright. How can I make sure whatever picture I upload is good to use? Thanks! Portolyan (talk) 18:21, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

May 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | May 2021, Volume 7, Issue 5, Numbers 184, 188, 197, 198 Online events: New: May Mays | Mental Health Contest (Apr/May/Jun): Women in Europe contest Year-long campaign: Women's rights Continuing: #1day1woman See also: Wikimedia District of Columbia: 100 DC Women contest Wikimedia CEE Spring: Central and Eastern European Women contest The Wikipedia Library: #1Lib1Ref Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage | Help us plan future events Become a member | Opt-out of notifications Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Rosiestep (talk) 21:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

"Official"

Hi, You reverted an edit of the Australian rules football article to remove a template questioning by whom the sport was "officially" known by a name. The referenced source is a publication by the Australian Football League Limited, an incorporated company, a private association with no official authority. The company (formerly named the Victorian Football League Limited - see asic.gov.au) is no longer a league of clubs as it is not controlled by its original member clubs, has an independent board (commission) and operates of its own volition following court rulings indicating it did not have a fiduciary relationship to the clubs. The South Melbourne "Swans" and Fitzroy "Lions" football clubs were bankrupted by indebtment to the company which took over and now owns some teams, retains veto control of others and has licenced or franchised new teams to owners. The company is unrepresentative of and unaccountable to the many Australian Football clubs and the huge Australian Football community. As a rapacious monopolistic company trying to control Australian Football, of course the AFL will pretend it has some "official" authority. Please do not lend credibility to the AFL's disinformation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.64.135 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

@115.64.64.135 and 14.203.175.10: We are discussing this edit in which 14.203.175.10 inserted the {{By whom?}} template & left as the edit summary What makes it "official"? Only the ignorant call it AFL.

Consider that I saw the {{By whom?}} & saw that the footnote/citation that followed a few words later linked to a page that stated it was The Official Home of AFL. Putting aside your contest of the veracity of that statement, you might consider the template was inappropriate, as there was a statement & a citation that clearly supported it.

Consider further the edit summary, which I certainly interpreted as a point-of-view (POV) that seemed to violate English Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy.

Your explanation above about Australian Football League Limited is more informative, & the edit from officially known as to also called makes sense in this context. However, your questioning of the veracity & role of afl.com.au would be much better be directed to Talk:Australian rules football where editors more familiar with Australian rules football can better evaluate & discuss your argument. After all, I am a Yank who rarely follows sports, let alone those in Australia. I can only gauge edits by their summaries & the appropriates of template placing. IMHO, as I already stated, this edit was inappropriate because it appeared to be biased based on the edit summary & because there was a citation that seemed to support it.

Please continue any further discussion about the veracity of the afl.com.au citation at Talk:Australian rules football. Peaceray (talk) 16:20, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Murder of Bianca Devins on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 23:30, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:John Rolph (politician) on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 19:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Response to welcome

I just want to thank you for the warm welcome. I'm still feeling my way around most things around wikipedia so I'm glad that folks like you are looking out for people like me who are new here. HawkeyeSammy (talk) 10:54, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

"loved"/"dreaded" is actually in the source

https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted

I reverted those edits on Python anyway because it was already in the citations and I don't the point of calling out a specific ranking in a specific survey. It's just the opinions of Stack Overflow users who hear about and answer surveys, not software developers in general anyway. Akeosnhaoe (talk) 14:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

@Akeosnhaoe: You are correct, & I apologize for not checking further. The language you cited was not in the first two of the citations that I checked, & somehow missed the reference to Stack Overflow. Had I seen that, I would have given altogether different reasons for reverting, since there were also Manual of Style issues involved.

Consider that the Manual of Style for the Lead section states The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic that should summarize the most important points. Details are best left for the body of the article. To pull a detail from the twenty-something table of the third of five citations hardly strikes me as part of concise summary. It puts us rather deep in the brush of the jungle when we are striving for a 10,000 feet (3,000 m) view, don't you think?

I believe that the Python consistently ranks as one of the most popular programming languages suffices. Peaceray (talk) 16:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for such warm greetings! JenyxGym (talk) 04:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

citations

Hey, Peaceray! Thanks for converting at Oneida Community, I have zero clue there. Is that something automated? Sorry for being ignorant. —valereee (talk) 01:52, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@—valereee: I will not pretend that shortened footnotes are for the feint of heart. That said, although the syntax takes some practice, I do believe it is very worthwhile & useful.

I use citer.toolforge.org to pre-format both the {{sfn}} & corresponding citation template. It will also generate a named reference as well.

If one takes the URL for Smith's 2016 book review at the Boston Globe site, https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/04/28/from-free-love-utopia-corporate-powerhouse/Zt4aS3UpWqbhArduzXZNlK/story.html,

& enters it as a URL/DOI/ISBN at citer.org, one gets this as an output (You may need to scroll right to fully view):

Extended content

{{sfn | ''BostonGlobe.com'' | 2016}} {{cite web | title=From free-love utopia to corporate powerhouse in ‘Oneida’ | website=BostonGlobe.com | date=2016-04-29 | url=https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/04/28/from-free-love-utopia-corporate-powerhouse/Zt4aS3UpWqbhArduzXZNlK/story.html | ref={{sfnref | BostonGlobe.com | 2016}} | access-date=2021-05-18}} I then tweaked it to include the author name. This meant that I had to remove | ref={{sfnref | BostonGlobe.com | 2016}} because the ref parameter is automatically generated when there is an author last name & valid date. The result after my tweaks: {{sfn |Smith |2016}} {{cite web |last=Smith |first=Wendy |title=From free-love utopia to corporate powerhouse in ‘Oneida’ |website=BostonGlobe.com |date=2016-04-29 |url=https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/04/28/from-free-love-utopia-corporate-powerhouse/Zt4aS3UpWqbhArduzXZNlK/story.html |access-date=2021-05-18}} The sfn code replaces the regular <ref></ref> tags, & the full citation goes into the Sources section. The final result will look like this, starting with a footnote: References Sources Smith, Wendy (2016-04-29). "From free-love utopia to corporate powerhouse in 'Oneida'". BostonGlobe.com. Retrieved 2021-05-18.

For a much more detailed exposition, please see my WikiConference NA 2020 presentation slides at: File:Converting Harvard citations to shortened footnotes (sfn).pdf. Peaceray (talk) 04:23, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Notes

May 19: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

May 19, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page. Wednesday May 19 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 03:14, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

CFD nominations closed as Keep

Thanks for your help reverting the CFD templates from category pages per the nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 May 16#Empty expert subject categories.

For info, this would otherwise have been handled by a bot, as programmed by Lee Vilenski here[8] (albeit the syntax needed a slight change).

The bot would also have added {{Old CfD}} to the talk pages. However, I think it won't do that now that the CFD templates have already been removed from the category pages. I've added it manually at Category talk:Wikipedia articles needing expert attention. Feel free to paste that onto the talk pages of some of the other categories if you think it might be noticed for future reference. – Fayenatic London 20:26, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Accept my apologies, I assumed it would need the full closure rationale and didn't read the full notes. Thank you for sorting Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi Peaceray! I didn't did just to vandalize the page, actually I found that other sources are contrary to that specific edit (which have been reverted) so I removed it. Kindly can you undo it? Or can you tell how to improve edit summarising? Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrapocentrist (talk • contribs) 22:59 23 May 2021-05-23 (UTC)

@Harrapocentrist: I responded on your talk page. Peaceray (talk) 06:04, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

June 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | June 2021, Volume 7, Issue 6, Numbers 184, 188, 196, 199, 200, 201 Online events: New: Wiki Loves Pride | June Junes | Jewellers & Watchmakers Contest (Apr/May/Jun): Women in Europe contest Year-long campaign: Women's rights Continuing: #1day1woman Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage | Help us plan future events Become a member | Opt-out of notifications Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Rosiestep (talk) 18:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Hawaiian Island nicknames

I am quite confident in asserting that the nicknames of the Hawaiian Islands is just that, Islands. For instance, the main local newspaper in Kaua'i is The Garden Island, the term "isle" is only something that exists on the internet from what I have seen. However, this is hard to source as most online publications beyond Hawaii erroneously use the word "isle". Weather this is a mistranslation from the original Hawaiian I can not say. However, what I know beyond doubt and anyone who has lived in these islands can tell you is that the phrase "Isle" is never said here. We don't say "The Big Isle" for Hawaii Island do we? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingDario (talk • contribs) 13:57 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Without verification from a reliable source, you confidence is merely original research. Your assertion that anyone who has lived in these islands can tell you is that the phrase "Isle" is never said here. contradicts my experience of living for nearly 14 years on "The Gathering Place", working as a part-time reference librarian at HPU (which hosted the Hawaiʻi Pacific special collection, BTW), & seeing those Isle nicknames splashed all over tourist literature. I will take these Hawaiʻi sources over your undocumented assertions.

• The County of Maui: http://www.co.maui.hi.us/DocumentCenter/View/92753
• Eileen Chao, staff writer for The Maui News: https://kahoolawe.hawaii.gov/media/2015.01.18%20Maui%20News%20Mayor%20Visit.pdf
• Various publishers from Hawaiʻi listed on page 3 of this publication from the State of Hawaiʻi Board of Geographic Names: https://files.hawaii.gov/dbedt/op/gis/bgn/Guidelines_for_Hawaiian_Geographic_Names_v1.1.pdf

Do you have any such sources to back up your claims? Peaceray (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

BTW:

• The unprecedented surge of COVID-19 cases on the mainland and the rise in community spread on Kaua‘i are of significant concern for the Garden Isle. — Gov. David Ige, https://governor.hawaii.gov/newsroom/office-of-the-governor-news-release-kauai-mayor-to-impose-temporary-moratorium-on-its-participation-in-states-pre-travel-testing-program-%EF%85%A5-lc/
• Businesses should bring recyclables directly to Garden Isle Disposal (GID), from https://www.kauai.gov/KauaiResourceCenter

I would suggest that you refrain from the claim that the phrase "Isle" is never said here when that is clearly not the case. Peaceray (talk) 21:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Bill Nelson on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 02:30, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Cyprien Ntaryamira on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 06:31, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

June 16: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

June 16, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page. Wednesday June 16 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 16:19, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata has killed off one of your centenarians!

María Teresa Sesé looks interesting ... but Wikidata says that according to the National Library of Portugal she died in 2019. All 3 articles on her have this in their infoboxes but not in their text, so I think it's pretty unlikely. I don't know what we need to do about dodgy info in Wikidata, but if you have any Wikidata geeks among your centenarian-focussed fellow-editors they might like to take it up. PamD 18:43, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

PamD, thanks! It looks like all three infoboxes are pulling their death date from Wikidata. http://urn.bn.pt/nca/unimarc-authorities/html?id=112853 does list a field, 200 #1 $aSésé,$bMaria Teresa$f1917-2019. I will have to dig deeper as this is the only source that indicates that she is dead.

It is inevitable that one or more of these centenarians may have died or will die in the course of editing. After I drew up the list, Krystyna Łyczywek died. I still think all those on the list, alive or not, are notable. Peaceray (talk) 21:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

PamD, still looking, but I have not found anything with these Google searches:

• "María Teresa Sesé" "obituario" "2019"
• "María Teresa Sesé" "2019" (muerte OR fallecida OR muerto OR obituario ) -"Hasta la muerte"

I have not examined all the results thoroughly, but nothing obvious about her alleged death has popped up. Peaceray (talk) 17:40, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I'm very suspicious about it! It's awkward that it automatically populates those infoboxes, and disappointing that no-one has noticed the discrepancy between text and infobox in the 3 articles. Ah, I see she's now a blue link- without an infobox. PamD 17:49, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

And it appears that, in Spanish Wikipedia, the birth and death categories (and presence or absence of "living people" category) are derived automatically from Wikidata. Not a pretty sight. PamD 18:03, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

July 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | July 2021, Volume 7, Issue 7, Numbers 184, 188, 202, 203, 204, 205 Online events: New: July Julies | Finance, economics & banking | Olympic & Paralympic Games New contest (Jul/Aug/Sep): Latin America contest Continuing: Women's rights | #1day1woman See also: "Mind your elders" Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help plan and coordinate future events. Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Rosiestep (talk) 16:06, 22 June 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Thank you

Thank you for helping the new user User:Joelphotofix. I did my best, but it is clear you know a lot more about our image policies and procedures than I do. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 21:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you HighInBC and Peaceray both, for helping me it's much appreciated :) Joelphotofix (talk) 22:05, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome. I am glad that I could assist. Peaceray (talk) 20:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Appreciation!!

Queenofconfusion (talk) 07:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

GOCE June 2021 newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors June 2021 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the June newsletter, our first newsletter of 2021, which is a brief update of Guild activities since December 2020. To unsubscribe, follow the link at the bottom of this box. Current events Election time: Voting in our mid-year Election of Coordinators opened on 16 June and will conclude at the end of the month. GOCE coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Have your say and show support here. June Blitz: Our June copy-editing blitz is underway and will conclude on 26 June. Drive and blitz reports January Drive: 28 editors completed 324 copy edits totalling 714,902 words. At the end of the drive, the backlog had reached a record low of 52 articles. (full results) February Blitz: 15 editors completed 48 copy edits totalling 142,788 words. (full results) March Drive: 29 editors completed 215 copy edits totalling 407,736 words. (full results) April Blitz: 12 editors completed 23 copy edits totalling 56,574 words. (full results) May Drive: 29 editors completed 356 copy edits totalling 479,013 words. (full results) Other news Progress report: as of 26 June, GOCE participants had completed 343 Requests since 1 January. The backlog has fluctuated but remained in control, with a low of 52 tagged articles at the end of January and a high of 620 articles in mid-June. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Tenryuu and Twofingered Typist, and from member Reidgreg. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors at 12:38, 26 June 2021 (UTC).

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for all the hard work you put in to make Mind your elders campaign a success. Know that it is recognised and greatly appreciated. Ashleyyoursmile! 16:44, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Pseudo-reorganization acquisitions on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 04:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Flag of the Cayman Islands on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 23:31, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for María Teresa Sesé

On 4 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article María Teresa Sesé, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that María Teresa Sesé wrote 500 romance novels in her native Spanish, then wrote several books in Basque after studying the language for two years? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/María Teresa Sesé. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, María Teresa Sesé), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Poster for My Name is Pauli Murray.jpg

⚠

Thanks for uploading File:Poster for My Name is Pauli Murray.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:28, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Branka Veselinović

On 12 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Branka Veselinović, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Serbian actress Branka Veselinović (pictured), whose career started in 1938, still performs aged 102? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Branka Veselinović. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Branka Veselinović), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

July 14: Virtual Coney Island Meetup + NYC monthly collaboration

July 14, 7pm: Virtual Coney Island Meetup + NYC monthly collaboration

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly online gathering (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. Instead of our usual "WikiWednesday" Salon, we'll focus on the WikiProject NYC monthly collaboration and this month's subject of Coney Island. And rather than Zoom, we'll meet on a proximity chat virtual Coney Island beach and share over topical articles and collaborations. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! Wednesday July 14 Virtual Coney Island Meetup (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via WikiConey on Gather

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 14:40, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

How is the fact that you occupied Hawaii for 14 years relevant? Furthermore how is "racially pejorative" relevant or even neutral?

Title. who even r u

My title is irrelevant. What is relevant about livng as a kamaʻaina in Hawaiʻi in that I have heard haole used as a racial pejorative. My particular issue, as mentioned in the edit summary here noted that "allegedly" is a MOS:WEASEL .... Please see Weasel word#Forms so that you may better understand why I found "allegedly" to be revertable under the words to watch Manual of Style guideline. Peaceray (talk) 02:13, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Tipton

I understand about the birth name issue, but I find it ridiculous that you are actually reverting the modification of language that implies that Tipton was a woman or was acting as a man. Do not revert such content again. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 15:29, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Bryn: While I hear your opinion, I do not agree with it. My reversions are almost always grounded in policy & guidelines. If I believe an editor has made changes against edit consensus, then as the explanatory supplement BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, suggests, I will revert an edit & direct that editor to the talk page to gain consensus.

I think that your admonishment & direction to me goes beyond any policy. I will continue to edit as constuctively as I can within policy & guidelines. I will ignore any individual direction to not revert such content again that is not grounded in enwiki P&G. Peaceray (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

What consensus exists on the Tipton article beyond the deadname consensus? - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 21:31, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Bryn: As noted above, please see WP:EDITCONSENSUS. Peaceray (talk) 21:38, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Elaborate on the consensus on the edits outside of the deadname change. A lack of specific consensus on those edits' changes makes your reversion nonsensical, with the only explanation being a support of that language or worse. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 21:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Bryn: No, I will not do that here. If you do not understand that an editor can be justified by EDITCONCENSUS in challanging the alteration of long-standing text, then you do not understand that policy. If you want to change consensus on the article, do it on the talk page. I recommend a WP:RFC if you really wish to have a formal consensus. Getting a formal consensus would avoid any problems with edit-warring, & broaden the discussion to beyond those attending to only Talk:Billy Tipton. Peaceray (talk) 21:57, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like bureaucracy for the sole purpose of being bureaucratic. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 21:59, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Bryn: I have been working with consensus on & off for 40 years. Consensus may seem bureaucratic & tedious, but my experience is that even when everyone is pissed off because they had to compromise, there is also a sense of accomplishment & agreement. Do your really think that the current ad hoc process will bring a lasting resolution? That is the purpose of consensus. Peaceray (talk) 22:08, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Evestardust

If you have had to fix edits by this user, please post any concerns here. Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Marita Camacho Quirós

On 23 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marita Camacho Quirós, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Marita Camacho Quirós, who was First Lady of Costa Rica (1962–1966), is the oldest former first lady in the world and a supercentenarian? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marita Camacho Quirós. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Marita Camacho Quirós), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

August Editathons with Women in Red

Women in Red | August 2021, Volume 7, Issue 8, Numbers 184, 188, 204, 205, 206, 207 Online events: New: Indigenous women | Women's leadership & empowerment Contest (Jul/Aug/Sep): Latin America contest Continuing: Olympic & Paralympic Games | Women's rights | #1day1woman See also: Interwiki Women Collaboration Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help plan and coordinate future events. Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:27, 23 July 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

RfC notice

This is a neutral notice sent to all non-bot/non-blocked registered users who edited Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics in the past year that there is a new request for comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics § RfC: Where should so-called voiceless approximants be covered?. Nardog (talk) 10:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Sylvia Ashby on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 07:31, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Tuqaq on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 08:31, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Tatjana Gamerith

On 8 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tatjana Gamerith, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Tatjana Gamerith and her husband, married for 60 years despite an age difference of 20 years, were awarded a prize for their work to combine art and nature? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tatjana Gamerith. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Tatjana Gamerith), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Sat Aug 14: Wikimania Wiknic NYC

August 14, 12-5pm: Wikimania Wiknic NYC

Wikimania 2021 Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for a planned socially-distanced Wiknic ("the picnic anyone can edit") in Brooklyn's Prospect Park to coincide with the virtual Wikimania 2021. For this occasion, and to allow more space as desired, we have individually packed lunches provided by the chapter, and attendees are encouraged to RSVP at Eventbrite and give sandwich/entree orders. Saturday August 14 Wikimania Wiknic NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 12:00pm - 5:00 pm in a shaded grove in front of the Picnic House (Prospect Park, Brooklyn) Long Meadow of Prospect Park

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 18:48, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

August 25: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

August 25, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page. Wednesday August 25 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 14:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

September 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | September 2021, Volume 7, Issue 9, Numbers 184, 188, 204, 205, 207, 208 Online events: New: Women writers & their works Contest (Jul/Aug/Sep): Latin America contest Continuing: Women's leadership & empowerment | Olympic & Paralympic Games Women's rights | #1day1woman See also: Interwiki Women Collaboration Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Learn more about our proposed one-day online recruitment initiative in October. Help plan and coordinate future events. Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Follow Women in Red on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Rosiestep (talk) 22:30, 26 August 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Addition to Wow page article

While I can understand that IMDB is user generated source, I do not understand how my addition to the In Popular culture section is not allowed, but others such as: The 2019 film Ad Astra uses the "6EQUJ5" signal as the filename of a Top Secret message reviewed by the film's main character. or In the 2015 movie Lazer Team, the Wow! signal is used as the source of an alien power suit. is when neither link has a cite either. It would seem to me, that if those pass muster, mine's no different. Just trying to understand. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Stridergdm (talk • contribs) 18:16, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@Stridergdm: I was following up on your talk page since Primefac had not followed up with a warning after reverting your edit. Yes, it is true that there is uncited material at Wow! signal#In popular culture. Any editor should feel free or to mark it with either the {{Citation needed}} or the {{Better source needed}} templates. Peaceray (talk) 04:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

For what it's worth, a) I agree that the content in question should be sourced or removed, and b) I don't leave warnings for a single, reasonable, but ultimately unsourced addition. Primefac (talk) 11:39, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Pompey stone on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 01:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Rhodesia Information Centre on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 06:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Peaceray. Thank you very much for the warm welcome. I will take a look on the WikiProjects for sure. The adoption you mentioned it seems very interesting too. Thank you again. TL-WP-CA (talk) 03:40, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

If it's okay for me to tag on here - thank you as well! I really appreciate your welcome, and the advice. Simplefruits (talk) 01:54, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Simplefruits

Talkback

Hello, Peaceray. You have new messages at [[User talk:User Talk:This is how I snort|User talk:User Talk:This is how I snort]].
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

This is how I snort (talk) 23:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of University of Pennsylvania Glee Club for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article University of Pennsylvania Glee Club is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of Pennsylvania Glee Club until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Warning

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Yiddish, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. 2600:8800:2C0E:F500:4DF6:46DB:E15E:1B6 (talk) 23:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@2600:8800:2C0E:F500:4DF6:46DB:E15E:1B6: I find it odd that you would post a warning about adding content when I was merely reverting removal of material whose edit summary was incorrect (This is an oblast > Russian only) as per the Jewish Autonomous Oblast article or had no edit summary whatsoever. Your last removal of the material at least had a clear edit summary. If I had reverted it then after you had challenged the lack of citations, then an {{uw-unsourced1}} level one warning might have been appropriate. I therefore think the {{uw-unsourced2}} level two warning was inappropriate & shows a lack of WP:AGF. I leave it here for other editors to judge.

I have restored the deleted material with three citations. Peaceray (talk) 00:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Samuel Jacobs (journalist)

Hi User:Peaceray how are you, can you take a look at this article Draft:Samuel Jacobs (journalist) If it's encyclopedic, can you move the draft, to the article's main space? --Hasan AB123 (talk) 05:22, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Draft talk:Samuel Jacobs (journalist)

@Hasan AB123:  You are invited to join the discussion at Draft talk:Samuel Jacobs (journalist). Peaceray (talk) 17:35, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

An eye on AUKUS

Looks like there's a coordinated group of IPs, (or just one bored editor with many proxies) disrupting the talk page at AUKUS. Thanks for keeping an eye on it. BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 22:05, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx: Besides requesting page protection, I have contacted administrators in another channel. Peaceray (talk) 22:27, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

You may also want to keep an eye on the ANZUS part until the page is protected - this group of IPs seem absolutely determined to remove it (and all without providing any sources!). BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 22:34, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx: As per Special:Log/protect, 2021-09-18T15:25:23 TheresNoTime talk contribs protected Talk:AUKUS [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (expires 2021-09-22T15:25:23) (Persistent vandalism) (hist) Tag: Twinkle (thanked) Peaceray (talk) 22:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Ah good to see the TP is protected. Now just for the article page :), and hopefully this group finds some other windmill to joust with. BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 22:39, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@BrxBrx: tn protectd AUKUS as well. Peaceray (talk) 22:45, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

The user blanked his own talk page.

The user, Special:Contributions/178.202.82.89, just blanked his own talk page. Could you please revert the blank right now and warn that user not to do such a thing like that again? AdamDeanHall (talk) 19:25, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

@AdamDeanHall: As per the English Wikipedia behavioral guideline WP:OWNTALK:

Although archiving is preferred, users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages. Users may also remove some content in archiving. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. This specifically includes both registered and unregistered users. Some new users believe they can hide critical comments by deleting them. This is not true: Such comments can always be retrieved from the page history.

It is thus within 178.202.82.89's purview to remove comments posted to 178.202.82.89's talk page. I have seen other editors, especially administrators, restore warnings it the editor continues to violate policies & guidelines. I would consider that to be appropriate if 178.202.82.89 misbehaves in the immediate future. Peaceray (talk) 20:26, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Peaceray; I just thought I should notify you of this in relation to this edit summary. I only gave the IP a level one warning originally, not being aware of the history, but upon them re-blanking their page I took a look at their history and saw your comment. BilledMammal (talk) 08:55, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Was Sally Ride lesbian or bi-sexual?

Sorry, I am new to editing wiki. How do we justify calling Sally Ride a lesbian, instead of bisexuality? Heck, she married a man. Dus she disavow her interest in men? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.241.161.165 (talk) 04:08, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

@173.241.161.165: I think the answer lies in NASA's attitude towards gay people at the time & Ride's desire to get into space, & Ride's desire for privacy.

Consider:

• Friedman, Ann (2014-06-19). "Astronaut Sally Ride and the Burden of Being The First". The American Prospect. But coming out doesn't seem to have occurred to her and certainly would have jeopardized her chance to go to space if not killed it outright. Around 1990-seven years after Ride's historic flight-NASA management quietly ordered a working group of physicians to declare homosexuality a 'psychiatrically disqualifying condition.' (The rule didn't end up going through, and although no astronaut has ever come out, NASA says it doesn't discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.)
• "Why Sally Ride waited until her death to tell the world she was gay". NBC News. 2012-07-25.
• "Sally Ride Didn't Want To Be A Gay Icon". Washington Post. 2012-07-24.

While we may speculate what the reasons for her marriage were, we cannot conclude that she was bi-sexual, or whether she had a lavender marriage, or anything about what her reasoning or feelings were. We only have postmortem commentary, & the consensus of those citations seems to conclude that she was lesbian. Peaceray (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

September 29: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon + Annual Members' Meeting NYC

September 29, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon + Annual Members' Meeting NYC

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page. Wednesday September 29 WikiWednesday Salon + Annual Members' Meeting NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

Upcoming events:

• Prospect Park photo contest, ongoing
• Latinx Art Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, October 6
• Wiki-Pavilion Picnic NYC in Prospect Park (with WikiProject Craft + WikiConference North America), October 10

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 04:40, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

October 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | October 2021, Volume 7, Issue 10, Numbers 184, 188, 209, 210, 211 Online events: New: Women in STEM New Contest (Oct/Nov/Dec): Women in Oceania contest Continuing: Women's rights | #1day1woman Special event: 12 October: Ada Lovelace Day 24-Hour Global Edit-a-thon See also: Women in Green Good Article Edit-a-thon Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help plan and coordinate future events. Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Follow Women in Red on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Rosiestep (talk) 01:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

September 2021 Guild of Copy Editors newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2021 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the September GOCE newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since June 2021.                  Current and upcoming events September Drive: Our current backlog-elimination drive is open until 23:59 on 30 September (UTC) and is open to all copy editors. Sign up today! Drive and Blitz reports June Blitz: From 20 to 26 June, 6 participating editors claimed 16 copy edits, focusing on requests and articles tagged in March and April. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. July Drive: Almost 575,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 24 people who signed up, 18 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here. August Blitz: From 15 to 21 August, we copy edited articles tagged in April and May 2021 and requests. 9 participating editors completed 17 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Other news June election: Jonesey95 was chosen to continue as lead coordinator, assisted by Dhtwiki, Tenryuu, and Miniapolis. New maintenance template added to our project scope: After a short discussion in June, we added {{cleanup tense}} to the list of maintenance templates that adds articles to the Guild's copy editing backlog categories. This change added 198 articles, spread over 97 months of backlog, to our queue. We processed all of those articles except for those from the three or four most recent months during the July backlog elimination drive (Here's a link to a "tense" discussion during the drive). Progress report: As of 18:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 468 requests since 1 January and there were 60 requests awaiting completion on the Requests page. The backlog of articles tagged for copy-editing stood at 433 (see monthly progress graph above). Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Dhtwiki, Tenryuu, and Miniapolis. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Months of African Cinema Global Contest!

Greetings!

The AfroCine Project core team is happy to inform you that the Months of African Cinema Contest is happening again this year in October and November. We invite Wikipedians all over the world to join in improving content related to African cinema on Wikipedia!

Please list your username under the participants’ section of the contest page to indicate your interest in participating in this contest. The term "African" in the context of this contest, includes people of African descent from all over the world, which includes the diaspora and the Caribbean.

The following prizes would be recognized at the end of the contest:

• Overall winner
  • 1st - $500
  • 2nd - $200
  • 3rd - $100
• Diversity winner - $100
• Gender-gap fillers - $100
• Language Winners - up to $100*

Also look out for local prizes from affiliates in your countries or communities! For further information about the contest, the prizes and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. We look forward to your participation.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 23:20, 30th September 2021 (UTC)

Ýou can opt-out of this annual reminder from The Afrocine Project by removing your username from this list

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:William Goddard (publisher) on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 12:31, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Constantine (son of Basil I) on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 00:30, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Templates For Discussion - AFL Player Significant Statistics Templates

A new discussion has begun regarding the AFL Player Significant Statistics Templates. Please add your thoughts there. DiamondIIIXX (talk) 00:30, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Sunday: Wiki-Pavilion Picnic NYC (part of WikiConference NA, Oct 8-10)

Sunday October 10, 12-5pm: Wiki-Pavilion Picnic NYC (part of WikiConference North America 2021, Oct 8-10)

WikiConference NA, October 8-10 Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for a planned socially-distanced Wiknic ("the picnic anyone can edit") in Brooklyn's Prospect Park, being held at the historic Concert Grove Pavilion to coincide with WikiConference North America 2021, which will run virtually from Friday to Sunday. For this occasion, and to allow more space as desired, we have individually packed lunches provided by the chapter, and attendees are encouraged to RSVP at Eventbrite and give sandwich/entree orders. Sunday October 10 Wiki-Pavilion Picnic NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 12:00pm - 5:00 pm at the Concert Grove Pavilion 40.65934°N 73.96414°W / 40.65934; -73.96414 (Prospect Park, Brooklyn) Concert Grove Pavilion

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 17:22, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

November 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | November 2021, Volume 7, Issue 11, Numbers 184, 188, 210, 212, 213 Online events: New: Film + Stage | Endocrine health Contest (Oct/Nov/Dec): Women in Oceania contest Continuing: Women's rights | #1day1woman See also: Wikipedia Asian Month 2021 Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help plan and coordinate future events. Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Follow Women in Red on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Innisfree987 (talk) 21:32, 24 October 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

A cup of tea for you!

Thanks for greeting many Wikipedians! TylerMagee (talk) 13:44, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

I've got pages needed for review.

Assuming a page needs reviewing from WP Admins, can you please give me the template for that? Fooliard (talk) 09:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@Fooliard: I think that, technically, anyone who has the right to move the page can move it into the article space. That said, there is a group of editors who are dedicated to reviewing drafts, but the backlog is substantial.

I believe that the best method to request a review is to place {{Draft article}} at the top of your draft, then press the

 Finished drafting? Submit for review! 

button when your draft is ready for review. Peaceray (talk) 13:12, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Syed Ali Shah Geelani on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 13:30, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Death and funeral of Mindon Min on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 07:31, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Godwatch49

Please take a look at this Block evasion. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Godwatch49 This has been going on and is now spilling out to other Mahabharata articles as the admins are now locking the articles due to sock puppetry. Letting you know so that you can report him next time he appears. --Venkat TL (talk) 19:23, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

@Venkat TL: thanks! Much of the time that I encounter a sock puppet is due to a handful of reasons, typically someone who respects neither WP:VNT or WP:BRD, & is engaged in removing cited material or adding uncited material. Once I see that an editor has received four or more warnings on their talk page, my next step is usually WP:AIV or one of the other admin bulletin boards. If there is a sock puppet involved, then this is the point where it generally gets recognized. If I see a particular page that is falling victim repeatedly, then I go to WP:RFPP. Generally taking these steps works pretty well for me. Peaceray (talk) 19:37, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Question about changing a word usage

I was looking at a page on a subject involving Botswana, and in several places it uses the form "Botswanan". This is regarded as an incorrect form locally, for reasons to do with Bantu grammar. Better would be "Botswana citizenship" for example. I thought of changing it, but do I need to provide a reference? The form "Botswanan" is however used outside the country to some extent, though seldom by experts. I am new to this, should I raise the issue on Talk or something first? Perhaps I should mention here that I am a historian of the region. Thanks MirrorSquirrel (talk) 19:45, 8 November 2021 (UTC).

@MirrorSquirrel: Yes, I would start by starting a section on the article talk page, possibly something with a title like =="Botswanan" is incorrect usage for the region==, then explain the how & why of it being incorrect. Listing a citation or two showing that "Botswanan" is incorrect" or that the correct method would be something like "Botswana citizenship" would buttress your statements. Then when you make your change, your edit summary can be something like Removing "Botswana" as incorrect, replacing with the locally acceptable "Botswana citizenship". Please see talk page for details.

I have encountered problems similar to this. For instance, someone who is Hawaiian is generally assumed to be Native Hawaiian & could even live elsewhere, whereas someone who is a resident or a state citizen would be called Kamaʻāina. Another example is that people in Hawaii almost always refer to the Overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom as an overthrow, whereas those with no connection to Hawaii often refer to it as a coup d'etat. Peaceray (talk) 21:51, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Reply regarding education

I disagree with you regarding education. If someone doesn't have a degree than they don't have the education. Hence, the only education that Ms. Holmes has is the high school one. She studied at the university for 2 months only. To list a university education in her profile is an insult to all the people who actually had to work towards getting their education. There's no such thing like an "incomplete degree". There either is a degree or there is not, nothing in between. It looks like your approach is not neutral. I don't think a university degree should be listed in her short bio because she does not have one. The fact she studied at Stanford for a short while is mentioned in detail in the article which is absolutely fine but it should not be listed in the summary because she does NOT have a university education, she left school at 19. A propos, she's not just an accused fraudster, she IS a fraudster. The lies have already been exposed, regardless of where legal proceedings are at. TerraPax (talk) 07:26, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

@TerraPax: I disagree entirely. This is a matter of consistency. We list the partial education for Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Wozniak, Orson Welles, or Georgia O'Keeffe. Why should we break this convention for Holmes? Is it because you have a negative view of Holmes?

In case you wonder why I insist on consistency, it is a matter of gender equity. I find that there have been numerous attempts to degrade or demote Holmes in comparison to similar male individuals. For instance, it was only after I asked why the term fraudster was being added to the introductory sentence on the Holmes article when it did not appear in the lead sentence for Bernie Madoff or Bernie Ebbers, another editor then changed it.

Similarly, as we do not add "college dropout" in the introductory sentence for Steve Jobs or Bill Gates, I then reverted edits that added it there for Holmes.

Education should be consistent with the concept of alumnus: a former student who has either attended or graduated in some fashion from the institution. Thus, Holmes would be considered an alumna of Stanford.

Regarding the label fraudster, until Holmes gets convicted, that is a contentious label. I agree with the opinion that Holmes is a fraudster, but to call her that in an article is a violation of WP:NPOV. Alleged fraudster would be fine, but don't put the cart before the horse. Either wait for the conviction before adding the word fraudster, or do a cited exact quote containing the word fraudster.

If you wish to discuss this further, please open a discussion at Talk:Elizabeth Holmes where others may see & comment. A disagreement between two editors is often served better by more eyeballs. Peaceray (talk) 17:30, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for your kind note welcoming me to Wikipedia. It was very helpful and I will take your advice and seek adoption. ArhedisVarkenjaab (talk) 11:28, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

The Months of African Cinema Contest Continues in November!

Greetings,

It is already past the middle of the contest and we are really excited about the Months of African Contest 2021 achievements so far! We want to extend our sincere gratitude for the time and energy you have invested. If you have not yet participated in the contest, it is not too late to do it. Please list your username as a participant on the contest’s main page.

Please remember to list the articles you have improved or created on the article achievements' section of the contest page so they can be tracked. In order to win prizes, be sure to also list your article in the users by articles. Please note that your articles must be present in both the article achievement section on the main contest page, as well as on the Users By Articles page for you to qualify for a prize.

We would be awarding prizes to different categories of winners:

• Overall winner
  • 1st - $500
  • 2nd - $200
  • 3rd - $100
• Diversity winner - $100
• Gender-gap filler - $100
• Language Winners - up to $100*

Thank you once again for your valued participation! --Jamie Tubers (talk) 18:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

You can opt-out of this annual reminder from The Afrocine Project by removing your username from this list

ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 6 December 2021. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2021 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:32, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, what welcoming template are you using?

Hi, I have seen this welcoming message you posted and really liked, but which template did you used? [9] Have fun! Cinadon36 07:18, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

@Cinadon: That would be {{Welcome-menu}}. You can use {{subst:Welcome-menu}} to place it manually, but I recommend using WP:Twinkle to semi-automate its placement. You can read how to use Twinkle at WP:Twinkle/doc. Peaceray (talk) 17:51, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Cinadon36 17:59, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

December 2021 at Women in Red

Women in Red | December 2021, Volume 7, Issue 12, Numbers 184, 188, 210, 214, 215, 216 Online events: New: "Double the lede!" | Women who died in 2021 Contest (Oct/Nov/Dec): Women in Oceania contest Continuing: Women's rights | #1day1woman See also: Women in Climate Change and preparations for our 2022 Climate initiative Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help plan and coordinate future events. Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Follow Women in Red on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Innisfree987 (talk) 00:13, 27 November 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Peace Ray?

Now that's an idea. Just point at a ruckus and shoot. Perhaps an intelligence ray or a common sense ray too? I'd like to help sew the frayed fabric of our society back together with social media threads. Can we talk? votus 71.38.93.229 (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

It's not Peace Ray; it's Peaceray. One word.

This is a talk page. We can talk here. Peaceray (talk) 21:39, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Shirley Chisholm on a "Social sciences and society" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 17:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you so much for being so kind to me I whole heartedly appreciate the kind gestures

                         <3 Clairoswife456 (talk) 20:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

December 2021 GOCE Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors December 2021 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the December GOCE newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since September 2021.                  Current and upcoming events Election time: Our end-of-year election of coordinators opened for nominations on 1 December and will close on 15 December at 23:59 (UTC). Voting opens at 00:01 the following day and will continue until 31 December at 23:59, just before "Auld Lang Syne". Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. December Blitz: We have scheduled a week-long copy-editing blitz for 12 to 18 December. Sign up now! Drive and Blitz reports September Drive: Almost 400,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 27 people who signed up, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here. October Blitz: From 17 to 23 October, we copy edited articles tagged in May and June 2021 and requests. 8 participating editors completed 26 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. November Drive: Over 350,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 21 people who signed up, 14 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here. Other news It is with great sadness that we report the death on 19 November of Twofingered Typist, who was active with the Guild almost daily for the past several years. His contributions long exceeded the thresholds for the Guild's highest awards, and he had a hand in innumerable good and featured article promotions as a willing collaborator. Twofingered Typist also served as a Guild coordinator from July 2019 to June 2021. He is sorely missed by the Wikipedia community. Progress report: As of 30 November, GOCE copyeditors have completed 619 requests in 2021 and there were 51 requests awaiting completion on the Requests page. The backlog stood at 946 articles tagged for copy-editing (see monthly progress graph above). Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Dhtwiki, Tenryuu, and Miniapolis. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Distributed via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Historical Bibliographic Data

Hi!

Thanks for attending the Pre-ISBN/ISSN bibliographic data workshop at WikidataCon 2021. It would be great to continue the conversation with you at Linked Pasts VII, a free online conference held 13-21 December.

Simon Cobb and I will be leading two activities Monday and Wednesday: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Marianika/Linked_Pasts_VII

Whether or not you can attend, if you're still interested in historical bibliographic data, could you please add your name and/or projects to this page I created for the wider initiative of getting people in academia and/or in the GLAM sector and/or in the Wiki communities to talk about how to model their historical bibliographic data (pre-ISBN/ISSN/ISMN):

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Marianika/Historical_Bibliographic_Data

If you're no longer interested, you can also let me know and I'll stop bugging you, ;- )

See you again next week perhaps! Marianika (talk) 17:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Feedback request: History Good Article nomination

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Matilda of Hainaut on a "History" Good Article nomination. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 19:30, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Dec 15: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

December 15, 7pm: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-8pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop. To join the meeting from your computer or smartphone, just visit this link. More information about how to connect is available on the meetup page. We look forward to seeing local Wikimedians, but would also like to invite folks from the greater New York metropolitan area (and beyond!) who might not typically be able to join us in person! If there's a project you'd like to share or a question you'd like answered, just let us know by adding it to the agenda or the talk page. Wednesday December 15 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms from 8:00-8:30)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team 18:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

January 2022 Women in Red

Happy New Year from Women in Red Jan 2022, Vol 8, Issue 1, Nos 214, 216, 217, 218, 219 Online events: New: Climate (year-long initiative) | Women in business | US territories Continuing: #1day1woman | Women who died in 2021 Other ways to participate: Encourage someone to become a WiR member this month. Go to Women in RedJoin WikiProject Women in Red Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging