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Getting more communities involved in overseeing a page

Hello, I'm just wondering if there's an established way (read: polite) of getting more communities involved in actively checking in on an article. The article on archaeoacoustics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoacoustics) is currently associated with the Archaeology group, but since it's a hybrid discipline, I'd like to get it associated with the Physics/Acoustics group as well - basically, it's a sort of inactive page (before me, hadn't been edited in almost a year, and the talk page has been inactive for even longer) that I'd like to start filling it out more, but would like to make sure that more established editors with an interest in the subject matter can oversee and ensure I'm not making a mess of it. Is there a polite way to start the association of the topic with the community? SuddenBowsprit (talk) 23:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

At the top of the article's talk page, after the existing WikiProject, you could add something like {{WikiProject Physics|class=start|importance=mid|acoustics=yes|fluid-dynamics=yes}}, adjusting the class & importance according to the project's definitions. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Resources

Does fandom count as a reliable resource or no? TheAlienMan2002 (talk) 01:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

No it doesn't. -- Hoary (talk) 02:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@TheAlienMan2002: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! The answer to your question is no, it is considered user-generated content. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 02:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

another notability question

oh, I hate to bother you again, but is the 1972 film A Short Walk To Daylight worthy of its own article? 2189 is out of order (talk) 01:45, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Is this an existing article you think should be deleted, or one you are considering drafting? If the latter, find the references. David notMD (talk) 02:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

2189 is out of order if you can find a few good references for it you can do an article on the TV movie. I did some quick online checking and couldn't find any good sources, but perhaps you can locate information in reference books I don't have access to. Best wishes on our research project. Karenthewriter (talk) 02:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Architecture firm

I could really use some assistance in how to correct my page so that it is accepted/more acceptable. The page represents an architecture firm that has been active in Wichita for more than 60 years. In creating the content, I used the existing Wikipedia pages of JE Dunn Construction (a construction company we’ve worked closely with), Proudfoot & Bird Architects (a long history of identifiable architecture throughout the mid-west), and DLR Group (another entity we’ve worked with) as a guide of what to do and what not to do. My first draft was fairly straightforward in content, following the styles of the pages listed above. JE Dunn lists the cities they are located in, with Wikipedia links to those cities. Proudfoot and Bird links to pages that don’t actually exist, which I obviously avoided doing. DLR’s page is extensively market driven, so I did not lean too far on copying their style. My second draft included more information and many more links and references, yet it was again refused. I can supply news articles spanning those 60+ years, and even though the articles don’t go on in depth about SJCF (more about the projects than about the architectural firm), there are 60+ years of coverage by external sources. I did link to the SJCF website as a courtesy external link, but I wanted to keep all marketing speak from the page, keeping with the Wikipedia guidelines. I also made sure to note my position as being paid to create the content on my talk page. I feel that I have done a thorough job on my page and have worked to follow the rules and guidelines. I am unsure how to proceed. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. WikiLDMR (talk) 22:42, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:SJCF Architecture Maproom (talk) 23:09, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Here is my recommendation (I don't expect you to follow it, inexperienced editors never do):

Discard what you have written. The considerable time you must have spent typing it in is a sunk cost.
Find several reliable independent published sources that discuss the firm in depth. Don't use anything written by the firm, or based on its press releases - they won't be independent. Don't use anything that just discusses the work it has done - it's the firm itself that we want to know about. Don't use anything based on an interview with a member of the firm - that won't be independent.
Rewrite your draft from scratch, basing it entirely on what those sources say. Maproom (talk) 23:26, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@WikiLDMR As well as welcoming you to the Teahouse, could I add to what @Maproom has wisely told you by pointing you towards WP:NCORP - a key hurdle about notability that every article about a company needs to be able to attain? Thank you for declaring your WP:PAID involvement with this organisation. As an volunteer myself, I don't actually see why I should spend a lot of time helping someone who is being paid to edit an article to improve it. I tend to expect them to know the basics of editing Wikipedia already, or not to attempt the task until they've committed to mastering the basics. I don't mean to be rude to you, but that's just how I see it, sorry. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Your draft lists many projects which are the subjects of Wikipedia articles, but there is no information there that SJCF was the architect firm. Cut the list to just a few, with refs that present more than just a name-mention of the firm. David notMD (talk) 02:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

WikiLDMR (talk) I quickly looked over your article draft, and my take on it is "less is more". You have convinced me that SJCF Architecture has designed buildings, but did not convince me that the firm is notable. Every building – even a tiny storage shed built by an amateur in his back yard – was "designed" by someone. Why should anyone be interested in reading about SJCF Architecture? I glanced through your long list of completed projects, and thought I'd look at some examples of the firm's work. I clicked on "Pizza Hut Headquarters" to see what the headquarters looked like, and was sent to the Pizza Hut Wikipedia article. No mention of the headquarters. "Unified School District 259" – which has 8 references after it – is about the school district, with nothing about what a building looks like. "Kansas Joint and Spine Institute" takes me to the Institute's website, which would be useful if I wanted a medical appointment. Get rid of all of those listings.

Don't worry, all is not lost. Just start again, and write a small article about notable projects. The Wichita Public Library is on the National Historical Register. Tell me more, and show me a picture. Are there newspaper or magazine articles about that building? I want to know what others wrote about that library building, and want to see those references. Has anyone (other than SJCF Architecture) written about the design of the museum buildings? Has anyone with the firm won awards, or been praised for safety features included in public building designs? If so, tell me about it. Give a brief gist about lots of schools, parking garages, and medical facilities being designed, and give just a couple of good references about them, written by someone with no connection to the firm. And tell about notable buildings. National Historical Register buildings. Buildings that other architectural firms look at and say – "that's an important building". Tell me about important architects. Ones that are deemed important in the architectural world. Tell me why SJCF Architecture is notable.

Don't overwhelm the poor volunteer review with a hundred references that don't tell anything important. (I read one article about a school district needing to save money by using old furniture.) Write 6 or 8 paragraphs about notable information. Give 6 or 8 references that really tell about the firm, and not just mention the name in passing. Less is more, when less is the good stuff. Gather up good research books and articles, and find those National Historical Register documents. Then write a good short draft article. Karenthewriter (talk) 02:23, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

WikiLDMR The three articles you mentioned as models for your draft are horrible articles that needed massive cuts (really? a list of branch office cities? a list of acquisitions?), and potentially should be nomintated for deletion. Architects should know that less is more. David notMD (talk) 03:49, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Page with many clear COI/Paid Editing violations- delete or revise?

Hi everyone,

During some browsing today, I came across the page TRUSTcollective. The editing history shows many edits by people with "trust collective" in the username, which implies to me paid editing, but there is no disclosure. Furthermore, many of the cited sources are articles by Adam Fine, who is listed as the company's founder.

My question is, does this make the page worthy of nominating for deletion, or should I just flag it for coi/paid editing violations? I'm not sure how much of the page can be saved and whether or not it meets notability requirements when you remove the primary source article sources. If the best option is to clean up the page, can sources written by the company founder be used, or do they need to be removed?

I would appreciate some advice or guidance on the issue. Apathyash (talk) 21:53, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for alerting people to this atrocity, Apathyash. It has already lost much of the puffery on display last month, but it still contains bullshit, such as the final sentence: TRUST created a multi-tiered communications strategy that raised global awareness of Walsh and her new venture. Let's continue taking out the trash. -- Hoary (talk) 23:19, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Probably beating someone when they are down, but two editors cut many, many refs, leaving in part, an unreferenced list of notable clients. I just cut all of that as unreferenced. David notMD (talk) 04:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm under a rock here. would this red link meet the notablility guidelines?

My job if you check my user page is dealing with red links. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:2189_is_out_of_order I'm under a rock, does this meet the notability guidelines, was this from a deleted article? 2189 is out of order (talk) 01:17, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "being under a rock", 2189 is out of order. Does what meet the notability guidelines? Was what from a deleted article? -- Hoary (talk) 02:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Being under a rock is another way of saying I am not affluent in that specific culture, being a Southerner. and I am wondering if the red link mentioned met the guidelines? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suhani_Si_Ek_Ladki . Red Link Text: Gaurav Mukesh Jain.2189 is out of order (talk) 03:18, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

You can use Special:Log to see if page was deleted. Jain page was never there. Gaurav Mukesh, which old versions of Suhani page used to link to, existed, but was deleted in 2016. Hemanthah (talk) 04:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

If Gaurav Mukesh Jain (a name I'd never heard of) really has "starred" (a vague and often promotional term) in Suhani Si Ek Ladki (which I'd also never heard of), then I suppose an article might eventually be written about them. There has never been an article titled "Gaurav Mukesh Jain". -- Hoary (talk) 04:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

edit request

I made an edit request, which is now in [1], and I am unsure why the request was never granted? I mistakenly thought p.m. was in the article. I believe pm should be changed to p.m., in order to show consistency. Thank you! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 04:18, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

"Time correction"? You could bring up the matter again on Talk:Kenosha unrest shooting. -- Hoary (talk) 04:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Will bringing up the request again annoy other editors? 73.167.238.120 (talk) 04:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

You have slightly changed your own question since I answered it. The question I answered didn't mention "p.m." versus "pm". Either of these is acceptable. Inconsistency (using both) would not be likely to worry the vast majority of readers. The triviality of your request might annoy me. -- Hoary (talk) 04:37, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I added to the beginning of the section, as I was trying to give as much information as possible and show I made a mistake in how I thought the article was written. I was unsure if I could bring up the request again on [2]. I do appreciate your response though! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 05:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Length of Time for Page to be Approved?

I created a wiki page, it was my first one, and this was around 2 months ago. There are no notifications or suggested changes.

How long does the approval normally take?

Regards K Kerriannwood (talk) 07:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Giom Peltier was not submitted for review, I have added the submit template for you, please note the comments I have left there about neutral tone before submitting. Theroadislong (talk) 07:51, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

You submitted the draft without addressing the neutral tone issues as requested, so I have declined it. Theroadislong (talk) 08:17, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Who is the authority?

This is kind of ceasing to be worth it, but if someone is reversing my edits in what I believe is an unreasonable way, and seems to be claiming some higher level of authority than me (e.g. threatening me with consequences), who is an authority I can appeal to above him or her?

More broadly, 'consensus' does not seem to be a good reason for deciding on something. A consensus of people can be wrong. I am kind of imagining that this higher authority would just defer to some kind of 'consensus', regardless of my arguments or the deficiency in my opponent's arguments.

I asked my opponent for an authority and he or she did not respond. If this is how this works, like I said, I don't really feel it's worth it, but just wondering if I was under some kind of misperception. (If there is an authority to whom I can report other editors, that would also be useful, although again I am pessimistic from what I have experienced thus far.) Toadmore (talk) 08:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

There is no "authority" in the sense you seem to mean. Wikipedia does indeed operate on the basis of consensus, and if an editor keeps editing an article against consensus, administrators can block that editor from editing that article. That is a consequence of editing behaviour (edit warring), not a consequence of having a particular opinion. Have a look at this information which explains what you need to do; in the particular case of Maryland, the question of which region it belongs to has apparently been a very contentious topic, to the point where there is a separate talk page only for discussions of that. There is also an edit note on the article page itself warning against changing the region without first getting a consensus in favour of a change, and even if you missed it the first time, you were told about it in Talk:Maryland#Region. Have another look at the response you got in that section, as well as here. --bonadea contributions talk 09:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

The advice above is entirely correct. However, there is no edit notice on the Maryland page, but rather an html comment in the lead. In source editor, the html comment is not at the top of the lead and therefore could easily be missed by someone just doing a ctrl-F to change the "mid-Atlantic" descriptor. In visual editor (link), this shows as a small, greyed-out information symbol followed by Do not modify text rela... and you need to click the information symbol to see the full comment.

I will put in an edit request for a an edit notice, with the same text as the html comment. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:42, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

You are right, of course. I have never used Visual Editor so I didn't realise that. Thanks, Tigraan! --bonadea contributions talk 11:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Change name of article and make it live

FYI

– Added section heading – ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs)

Courtesy link: Draft:Panaviatic

Greetings,

I have created new article about company PANAVIATIC AS based in Estonia as current topic on wikipedia is only on Estonian and do not represent current reality about company. However name of my topic is still User:Skyfly289/sandbox. Please let me know how can I change name to PANAVIATIC AS and make it live.

Thank you for your assistance. Skyfly289 (talk) 11:16, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Skyfly289, the draft as written will not be accepted as a WP-article, see WP:GNG and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). On en-WP, you can't base an article on the company's own website. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Skyfly289 Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does. Wikipedia is interested in what others unconnected with the company say about it, showing how it meets the definition of a notable company as defined by Wikipedia(see the post above). If you are connected with this company, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on formal disclosures you must make. 331dot (talk) 12:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up to Help with module editing

Hello, I asked a question about module war map editing, but my question wasn't answered. Could someone please help me? Thank you! Firestar464 (talk) 02:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Firestar464. On the whole, people who answer questions at the Teahouse are familiar with editing articles, but not the inner workings of Templates or modules, which was probably why your question went unanswered. A better place to ask would be WP:VPT. --ColinFine (talk) 13:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Span

What type of element is span and div. Wikimarkup?? Itcouldbepossible (talk) 13:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

For information on Div and span, see Div and span. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:07, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@David Biddulph No I am actually talking about wiki span and div tags Itcouldbepossible (talk) 14:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps you missed the first line on the page, where it says: "For the use of span in Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Span tags"? Similarly for div, see Help:HTML in wikitext#div. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Template Error Question

Can someone tell me why am I seeing this error in BOLD? Pakistan Historical Society (1991). Journal of the Pakistan Historical Society Volume 39. Pakistan Historical Society. p. 146. "During the life time of Ahmad Shāh Abdali, the Sikhs under Jhanda Singh and Lahna Singh succeeded in capturing Multan on 5th January 1772" line feed character in |title= at position 43.

This is what I have added in article that is showing the error above ^[1]

Any help would be appreciated.MehmoodS (talk) 14:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

References

^ Pakistan Historical Society (1991). Journal of the Pakistan Historical Society Volume 39. Pakistan Historical Society. p. 146. During the life time of Ahmad Shāh Abdali, the Sikhs under Jhanda Singh and Lahna Singh succeeded in capturing Multan on 5th January 1772 {{cite book}}: line feed character in |title= at position 43 (help)

MehmoodS There was a line break between "Journal of the Pakistan Historical Society" and "Volume 39" in the title, which the template didn't like. Have fixed it now: [3]. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Joseph2302Thank you for quick response. Learned something. MehmoodS (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello

hello Wikipedia editors. is there any way I can make my articles more factual? Idount (talk) 14:16, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello Idount and welcome to the Teahouse. Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Fumos. You need references about Fumos that are not fandom, as that is not considered reliable source referencing. David notMD (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

A question about paid editors

I recently found a paid editor who hadn't made the required disclosure. In their talk page, I told them to make the disclosure, which they did (although they only did so on their talk page, and not on their user page as is required by policy). Before I did this, their paid editing had been ongoing for several years. Should I have reported this user on the noticeboard? --Wartops (talk) 20:00, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, but I think that you should definitely report them now. Anonymous from Stack Overflow (talk) 20:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

The editor in question has edited two articles (related). You have told the editor to declare paid, which was done on Talk page, and you then advised today to more to User page. A fair guess it will be done. You also tagged the two articles as products of paid editing. If the paid notice is moved to User page I would consider your effort reaching the right result, and done. David notMD (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Wartops, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, if I am reading this correctly, are you implying they have been engaging in undeclared paid editing for years? Do you have cogent proof? If yes, then please WP:UPE enables you to go to WP:AN/I, if you have hard evidence that may contain private material then please you may want to send an e-mail to ArbCom. Celestina007 (talk) 23:14, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

To be specific here, User:Elizachan16 has been editing Schneider Electric and Jean-Pascal Tricoire since 2019. Now indefinitely blocked. User:Wartops has cut huge amounts from the first and modest amounts from the second. Both still tagged as significant paid editing. Schneider Electric actually shows years of past editing by other accounts that edited nothing else, so in highsight, were undeclared paid editing. David notMD (talk) 03:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Well, they were only blocked from editing those two articles. Even after cutting a lot of content, I decided to keep the templates because I feel that the articles might still be overemphasizing certain achievements. --Wartops (talk) 15:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Formatting, Illinois River; in the Links section.

Could someone improve the formatting here? If anyone wants this for a nice two-weekend project*, have at it. Otherwise, I'll do it. Kurnkerner (talk) 09:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC) Kurnkerner (talk) 09:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Referring to the idea of linking all the Rivers of America volumes to their respective rivers.

@Kurnkerner: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, the Teahouse is used for questions only not for asking someone to do something, instead I would suggest putting that on the article’s talk page. Kaleeb18 (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Needed help with Nancy (singer)

i need a help regarding this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_(singer) article i suggest if i get an allow to edit for adding more information because there is a user forbbiding me to put correct information, what i should do with this? Popicks (talk) 15:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Note: To responding editor, user has WP:COI to Nancy (singer) as indicated in user replies on my talk page. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

To clarify to Popicks: your edits were reverted because you changed information without references. You have also made clear that you are being paid to edit this article (see your Talk page). That means you must declare the paid relationship on your User page, and are prohibited from editing the article directly. Your only recourse is to use the Talk page of the article Nancy (singer) to propose changes which a non-connected editor will either do or deny. If you do not declare your paid situation you risk being permanently blocked from editing any articles. David notMD (talk) 16:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

if i am going to be removed away then how it is going to help the site to gain more accurate information correctly when we here are the ones who work with her personally so we can have more accuracy than of those fans editing the article that only base on the foreign news websites that doesn't do any help for the article Popicks 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Popicks AGAIN, you are not prohibited from contributing, only from contributing directly to the article. See WP:PAID. You must request changes on the Talk page of the article. Be specific, i.e., as in replace ____ with ____ (providing an independent reference to verify the new information). True information will be rejcted if without references. If there is a lot of new information, divide it into several requests. David notMD (talk) 16:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

An erosion

Emma OSOLU (talk) 17:00, 1 December 2021 (UTC)okay

@Emma OSOLU: Hello Emma and welcome to the teahouse! Did you have a question you wanted to ask? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

How to make scrollable list

Hello! So as I continue to clean up my user page and make it better, I want to ask, how would I create a list that a person can scroll through? I'm only asking because of the amount of userboxes I have in my Wikipedia User infobox and I think it would benefit from a user being able to scroll down it instead of it all being displayed in one long section at once. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf You might find something to help you at Help:Scrolling list. But, right now, I can scroll down through your usererboxes perfectly easily by scrolling down your userpage. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

My article was denied as it seemed commercially promotional

I have kept the texts neutral as possible but still, it was received as promotional. And I know I have to disclose it if the article is about the company that I am working on, what would be the process to follow on that matter? Thank you! Oguler743 (talk) 15:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Oguler743 To disclose your conflict of interest if the article is about the company that you are working with, see WP:DISCLOSE. And if you're paid to edit, see also WP:PAID. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. So even if the article is completely neutral and objective and all the information is reference-based, I cannot publish the article due to the "Conflict of Interest"? or would it be okay if it is completely unbiased? Thanks (P.S: He is a French designer with high-end innovative projects and there are plenty of articles on him) @Paper9oll — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oguler743 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Oguler743 Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about someone and what they do. A Wikipedia article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Your draft(which as an administrator I can view even though it is deleted) seems to be largely sourced to sources that tell what Gaugain has done, but discuss him very little if at all. 331dot (talk) 16:37, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@331dot Thanks. So this means that if I discuss himself furtherly and not only the things he did, would it be possible to get my article published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oguler743 (talk • contribs)

Oguler743 Before anything else, please make the required disclosures. You need to summarize what others completely unconnected with Mr. Gaugain choose on their own say about him- not based on interviews with him or materials put out by him or his company. 331dot (talk) 17:07, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

any way to speak or email directly with someone?

Is there any way to speak or email directly with someone? I don't even understand how I will find the answers to the questions I post on here. I just need a bit of help navigating all these pages. I don't understand when I am supposed to use four tildes - I guess only in followup comments? Prof Mo Lill (talk) 15:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Prof Mo Lill: Hello again Prof! You usually only need to use four tildes when you are making responses and questions on talk pages (Here on teahouse when you create a new section it automatically adds four tildes). As for speaking directly to someone you usually will use their talk page, although occasionally you may need to email them (there should be a button on the side when viewing someone's talk page that says email user). For example, my talk page is located at User talk:Blaze The Wolf. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help. I must move on today but I may be in touch. Prof Mo Lill (talk) 15:41, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Prof Mo Lill: I will also add that not everyone has their email on Wikipedia. Kaleeb18 (talk) 16:42, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Prof Mo Lill, you can also go to a chat room and communicate directly with some other editors: see WP:IRC. I have never been there myself, so I have no idea how responsive or helpful it is. --ColinFine (talk) 17:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Need help publishing

Hi. Can someone tell me how to publish an article? I have an article about Pavlov VR that I made in sandbox and I don't know how to publish it. Rzzor (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Rzzor: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, if you want to publish it you can simply click move near the top right corner of the page. I will say though your references look like they could use some help so I wouldn’t publish it yet. I suggest reading Help:Referencing for beginners and Help:Your first article. Kaleeb18 (talk) 16:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Rzzor: You have created Draft:Pavolov VR; a means to submit it for review has been provided, but if you were to submit it now, it most likely would not be accepted. Please review Your First Article and use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 16:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

It is Draft:Pavlov VR. David notMD (talk) 17:06, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

it is submitted for review, which can happen in days, weeks, months (the system is not a queue). Your main ref is to the company website. Can you find independent refs? David notMD (talk) 17:10, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Problem

Fantasy Cricket article have just to web sources, they're also lesser known. I doubt that this article is paid or written by paid editors, beacuse these fantasy leagus in India spreding that it's legal.Do this article deserve to remain in main space. Newton Euro (talk) 17:27, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Fantasy cricket (links are case sensitive) Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

The article seems to have been around since 2006, when standards of inclusion were much lower. It is very poorly sourced but note that someone would have to do the necessary WP:Before work in order to go through WP:AfD. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: Thanks for response but some experience editors must have to look into it or remove it from main space. If some editors are interested in it they should have further write it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newton Euro (talk • contribs)

Astro_(South Korean band)

I keep adding facts to the members names (I dont want to step on anyone toes If I am then I dont need to add them) but Iv tried a couple times to edit the members section next to their names and added quick info like main vocalist,visual,malane,actor ect but it gets deleted? Fanclubs of astro the boyband are all frustrated that it does not state next to thier names thier postions on wikipedia of the group or uptodate info like actor ect? I just dont understand why facts are being deleted? If they are facts its okay to add to it right? If kprofiles is not being considered reliable is the problem well fans worldwide use it for information and actual companies of those bands refer to them as well to inform fans,its an offical website for facts. Im new and dont even know if this okay to ask or even do? Please answer and Thank you anyways! Jenylyn227 (talk) 17:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Jenylyn227 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edits were removed because they were not sourced to a reliable source. If you want to argue that a particular source is reliable, please do so at the reliable sources noticeboard. 331dot (talk) 18:00, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Non-Notable Pageant Contestants

When I first started editing MBGN and Miss Nigeria pages, the Wiki administrators nearly took them down because they claimed my edits were against Wiki rules; only winners are acknowledged in the tables, with a few notable mentions. When my cousin was competing in Junior Eurovision I tried creating an article for her, but it was deleted because the administrators claimed she was only a contestant, not a winner (Luckily, she DID win eventually). How come Underbednangngam, another editor, keeps extending the table on The Nigerian Queen to include other runners-up, most of whom have faded into obscurity? I've tried explaining to him how Wikipedia works, but he keeps ignoring me (I've been with Wiki over 10 years, I should know). You never see that on other Wiki pageant pages like Miss America or Miss World. Why is it happening here? I think it's very unfair how you run a "Different set of rules for others" policy here on Wikipedia... Jemmabond (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Pinging Underbednangngam so they're aware of this conversation. Jemmabond, I see you've started a discussion on Talk:The Nigerian Queen, but you didn't ping Underbednangngam so they may not have known about your post; I also don't see any messages from you on their talk page. If they continue adding material that violates our guidelines, even after attempts to explain and discuss things with them, you can ask for administrator intervention at WP:ANI or WP:3RRV (if they engage in edit warring). Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:49, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Clone-A-Willy Wikipedia Page Taken Down

Hello --

I noticed that a page was taken down and I was curious why? It was for the brand/product Clone-A-Willy and was up for the last couple of months! This is where it was before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clone-A-Willy

Is there somewhere with information on why pages are taken down? I am a friend of the brand, they are a small company and were very excited about having a page on Wikipedia! I understand the importance of notability and unbiased information for organic Wikipedia pages and was curious if it was something to do with that?

Any help is much appreciated!! BobWilliams1979 (talk) 19:16, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

It looks like the article was deleted because it was created by a paid editing ring that was banned for abusing Wikipedia. You should tell your friends to try to get their money back. MrOllie (talk) 19:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@BobWilliams1979: Hello Bob and welcome to the Teahouse! It appears the page was deleted under G5 of the speedy deletion criteria which means the page was created by a user who was banned/blocked in violation of their ban or block. You can check out WP:DEL for more information as to why pages are deleted. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Edit count

Hello, I realized on my IPad it say I have made 470, but on my laptop it says I have like 870. Does my laptop count the number of edits I’ve mad on both my laptop and IPad or just my laptop? I also assume the IPad just counts the number of edits I’ve made on the IPad. Kaleeb18 (talk) 15:28, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kaleeb18: You have approximately 900 edits in total, and about 470 of those are to main (article) space. See your edit count. Perhaps you use a mobile skin on the iPad and a Desktop skin on the laptop that have different assumptions on what you'd like to see, and one of them gives you only article edits, the other all edits. —Kusma (talk) 15:34, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Any edit count will be based on which account was used and not which device or browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Oh gotcha and thank you. Kaleeb18 (talk) 16:07, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Kaleeb18, you might also be interested in Special:Homepage. The "Your impact" panel shows how many people have been viewing articles you edited recently. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 09:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Pelagic: I’ve seen that before like right now it like 950,000 people have seen my edits, but it’s been like 2 mil. before. Kaleeb18 (talk) 15:20, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

_{@Pelagic: Pinging them since you accidentally linked to the disambig page for ping instead of using the template ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:25, 30 November 2021 (UTC)}

Thx ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 20:11, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Uhm

FYI

– Added header. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 20:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

umh okay 82.203.67.57 (talk) 20:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I have no clue what I am doing

204.82.222.53 (talk) 18:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP and welcome to the Teahouse! I see you have no other edits using this IP other than the one to the Teahouse so what is it that you would like to do or what is it that you would like information on? --ARose Wolf 18:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Register an account (optional, but recommended), then work through the tutorials. David notMD (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

St Thomas Aquinas Catholic Primary School

May I request the validation of this page, as it is currently a draft made by me. Here is the draft: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:St_Thomas_Aquinas_Catholic_Primary_School QCS 2020 (talk) 20:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

QCS 2020, Draft:St Thomas Aquinas Catholic Primary School cites no sources at all, and so won't be accepted as an article in its current state. Maproom (talk) 21:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Attempts to create articles about primary schools rarely succeed. Needs refs to show what is notable, and then submit to Articles for Creation for a review. David notMD (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Please stop User:GenQuest from supporting genocide denial

Hi yes. I made a change to the Trail of Tears page and a user called GenQuest has gone so far as to write some trash on my personal Talk page about how the Native American genocide wasn't a genocide. They also seem to be very intent on this, showing a distinct POV on the issue, including making absolutely not-neutral statements about "cancel culture" and putting up fake pronouns ("wombat/wombastic") into their own profile. This in turn is not neutral in any way on the question of trans rights.

Your organization apparently has taken the decidedly non-neutral view that what the United States did to the Native Americans beginning before the U.S.'s present government was established and going up through the 20th century -- where Native children were sent to residential schools where they were apparently murdered in great numbers as we have recently learned -- was not a genocide. This is absolutely not a Neutral Point of View on this matter, as the evidence for the genocide having occurred is absolutely overwhelming.

I presume that you would not tolerate Holocaust denialism being placed on the same level as the Holocaust. It is flatly disgusting that anyone even has to write what I'm writing to ask, politely, that such denialism cease being a part of Wikipedia's take on the Trail of Tears, which as it stands appears to be being actively monitored and edited by genocide denialists. Please make a note of it. Spiritu (talk) 20:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Spiritu: I'm seeing:
(1) this edit on your talk page
(2) similar edit on GenQuest's talk
(3) your edit on Trail of Tears from June,
(4) This section on your talk page from June: User talk:Spiritu#June 2021
(5) several of your edits on the Trail of Tears article from Dec. 1 (today).
Are these all of the edits that are relevant to the issue that you've brought up here? — Alalch Emis (talk) 21:06, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

It appears all of this is in reference or finds it's beginning in this comment by @GenQuest on Talk:Trail of Tears made on January 4th of this year. --ARose Wolf 21:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that was quite a long time ago. This isn't very healthy. — Alalch Emis (talk) 21:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

For clarity: I left a response on GenQuest's user talk giving this editor some options for content disputes or behavior disputes. --ARose Wolf 22:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Deleting

Is it actually true that we are considering deleting entry on mass killings under communism? Kaleeb18 (talk) 13:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

It is true, but article deletion are not extraordinary, multiple articles are deleted everyday. Wikimedia officials/WMF takes no part in the deletion, it is started by an editor, it is discussed by the editors, Wikimedia foundation have no say on the article at all. SunDawn talk 13:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Yep, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mass killings under communist regimes (4th nomination). It is the largest (as in amount of text) Afd in en-WP history, see User:JPxG/Oracle/Largest AfDs. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Kaleeb18 (talk) 15:05, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång I opened the link you posted. You owe me 30 minutes that I wasted trying to read that monumental clusterf##k. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Dodger67 But surely you learned... It must have increased your understanding of... Fine, I owe you 30 min. I'll spend it on improving an article on something. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång My name is Roger and I'm a Wikipediholic. Today I learned that the WP rabbit hole can be a mindbending experience. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

It's been 30 min since I last edited WP... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

how do i "play" in my sandbox?

I don't understand how to play in my sandbox. I want to try a draft article, but I don't want to "publish" it for the world to see. How do I save it just for myself? Or should I create it in Word and then cut and paste? I'm tired and frustrated - let me put this differently - I want to try a draft article, but I can't write it all in one sitting. Should I be using the Sandbox for this? And how do I save things within my Sandbox if I'm not ready to publish? Prof Mo Lill (talk) 15:12, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Prof Mo Lill When you publish a draft or sandbox, it can indeed be seen by anyone in the world, that's why the button says "publish" instead of save like it used to, and it's still important to follow WP:s copyright rules. WP doesn't have a "can only be seen by myself" space. However, a sandbox not indexed on search engines like Google, so other people are unlikely to look at it, unless someone asks them to. Hope this helps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:21, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Prof Mo Lill: Hello Prof and weclome to the Teahouse! When editing, the "publish" button is actually your save button. You can write your draft in your sandbox and it won't be submitted for review until the appropriate templates are added and you press the button to send the draft for review. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Does it work to draft in Word and then cut and paste into the sandbox? Prof Mo Lill (talk) 15:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

That will work. See WP:YFA for guide to the draft process. Be aware that content in your Sandbox is also not found if an editor searchs on a term in Wikipedia (that is in addition to not being found by external search engines). HOWEVER, any editor can look at your chronological list of edits, and get to your Sandbox or Draft that way. Hence, many examples of content in S or D deleted by Administrators if it is copyright infringement, or is so clearly promotional in nature that it has no potential to becoming an article. Non-Admins can tag a S or D with a "Speedy deletion" nomination in order to bring the attention of an Administrator. David notMD (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but you will have to wikify it manually. Minkai^(rawr!)_{(see where I screwed up)} 15:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Many Wikipedians do use external tools to work on large articles or sections over time. I would however recommend you consider using a plain text editor rather than MS Word, so you aren't tempted to use Word's visual formatting tools which you would then need to convert to Wikipedia/MediaWiki syntax. Your computer already comes with a plain text editor – Notepad on Windows, TextEdit on Mac. If you must use MS Word, Help:WordToWiki offers some methods for converting to wiki syntax. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 23:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory [4]

For the 'Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory' article, In the 'Political correctness and antisemitic canards' there is a segment from an article by Samuel Moyn. I would like to add this article [5] which is a direct rebuttal to the article by Moyn and his points. There is also the 'origin' section of the article which cites an article that claims that its from 'New Dark Age: Frankfurt School and 'Political Correctness' (1992), but the earliest use of the term is actually from a book published in 1973 [6] which I would also like to add to the article. I see that the article is locked. What is the process I would need to go through in order to add this? Thanks! Digital Herodotus (talk) 23:49, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Digital Herodotus: You'd raise it on the talk page of the article. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 23:52, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digital Herodotus (talk • contribs) 23:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Search privacy

When I'm logged into my Wikipedia account does my account save my article search history, regardless if I put it on my watchlist and if so how can I clear it? Hgh1985 (talk) 00:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Search history is a browser-side option, not something on our end. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 00:03, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

No I meant only the articles that I look up on Wikipedia, for example YouTube records every search and video watch history on logged in Google Account unless if the feature is manually turned off

Hgh1985 (talk) 00:07, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

And, again, Wikipedia's search history is controlled by your browser settings, not an account option. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 00:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

changing draft title

I've got a draft for an item almost ready to submit for review (and add tags to for people with expertise in the area) thanks to some seasoned editors who made valuable contributions. However, I've decided that what I originally named the draft: draft:'Bert Powsey' should be 'Professor Powsey' which is the professional name of this person as would be searched on search engines and better known by moniker (btw this is a 'professor' in the non-formal sense; this person was a pier diver and there were many such divers called 'professors' in the same way Punch and Judy operators, or piano players, might be called 'professors' (as in 'Professor Longhair'). To the point, can I change the name of the draft to Professor Powsey? I'm going in circles trying to find 'move' on my edit board; perhaps because I'm new to Wikipedia I'm not able to do this. As I understand it there is a risk of losing the edit history. I would like to change the draft name accordingly and still retain the edit history of the piece. Afewthings (talk) 00:22, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

The title of a draft, as a rule, is provisional at best. When/if the draft is accepted by a reviewer, they'll move it to a more appropriate title per WP:COMMONNAME. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 00:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

When should I ask for an experienced editor to look at my sandbox and what happens then?

Hi there, thanks for the invite to Sandbox. I'm new to Wikipedianism, but felt compelled to try adding an item or two or three about related subjects that are of some interest to me but which are absent on Wikipedia pages. I think they're notable, but may well be mistaken of course. I've a bunch of questions I'd like to ask, but I'll stick to just the subject above. I've written one item in Sandbox, added citations bio info box, it could be item or stub. I'm sure it has errors of course, but there's not much more I can add for the moment. But there may be many Wikipedians out there who can add more if this subject is indeed deemed notable. Question is, am I ready to request asking for the item to be reviewed by experienced editors? What happens after doing this? Of course, I am extremely curious to see if I'm way off the mark or on track and anxious for feedback, for better or worse. And if the subject is notable it would be so very interesting to see any further contributions by editors. Would you encourage me to 'press the button' soon sooner or later? Afewthings (talk) 05:43, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Afewthings, editors don't usually like to edit other people's sandboxes, but they are happy to edit articles in "Draftspace". So I would suggest moving your sandbox article to Draft space via the "move" tab at the top. After clicking the "move" tab, scroll way down under "New title" and select "Draft". Then where it now says "Afewthings/sandbox", change that to ~~"Albert Edward Powsey"~~ Bert Powsey. Then check "Watch page" and then click the blue "Move page" button and you're done. You can then let relevant WikiProjects know about the draft, and so on. If you have any trouble or want me to do the move for you, ping me by copying my full username like I did yours, or post on my talkpage. Softlavender (talk) 06:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

But the text suggests (though doesn't directly say) that he was best known as Bert Powsey. If he was, then this should be the title of the draft, and of the eventual article. Anyway, the title should be the best-known name (thus we have "Joe Biden", not "Joseph Robinette Biden".) -- Hoary (talk) 06:14, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough, all of the Googlebooks results are under Bert Powsey. Bert Powsey it is. I shall edit my post. Softlavender (talk) 06:43, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

"Wikipedianism" -- it sounds like a congenital disorder of some kind. Uh, that aside: Your User:Afewthings/sandbox is certainly about a most interesting subject. I looked at one of your sources: the first one, this one. You attribute it to "Krystynapickering", but as I see it, it's by Dan Robertson. And it's also dated (29 Sep '21). Once you've fixed this reference, you don't have to write all this out more than once. (Please see this recipe.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:10, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey thanks so much for all those responses. Wow that was quick. I will take a look at and apply your suggestions in the next couple of days and do as you suggest, try and move it over to draftspace. So far I haven't found the move tab but will look more closely. Again, thanks kindly for your time.Afewthings (talk) 06:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

If you don't mind, I'm just going to do it for you, so you can concentrate on other things like improving the draft itself. Moving can seem somewhat complicated the first time. Softlavender (talk) 06:45, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Done

Draft:Bert Powsey

--Softlavender (talk) 06:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I've read the second sentence of the draft multiple times, and still can't make sense of it. What are "the periods"? Who employed the divers? Maproom (talk) 08:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

It just needed an apostrophe (period's), which I've added. Now that you mention it though, there is redundancy since I moved a large chunk of text from the lead to the body text. I'll fix that now. Softlavender (talk) 09:07, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Well done, Afewthings, for creating an interesting draft. You should be able to find public domain images to add to it. One obvious source is this one — you need to check the copyright status but with a bit of luck old photographs will be out of copyright and even if they are not, one can be chosen to be placed in the infobox of the article, once it has been accepted, under "fair use" provisions on English Wikipedia (see WP:FAIRUSE). Don't add such a fair-use image until that point. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks all for those changes. Have just discovered the 'thank' link and tried to thank everyone at least once but I can't find one for you, Richbot. But thanks and thanks all. No time to review all the iterations but the current version is much much better. The recollections and legacy at the bottom is super touch. And someone corrected that first citation. I'll have to go way back to the earlier version to get a full comparison when I get a mo, but the fact that changes don't leap out indicates it is super smooth editing. It is the errors in the earlier version that leap out ha ha. I have to look into copyright on those old photos. I've collected a bunch but was uncertain of their status and was going to look into it. There are also a lot of interesting old photos of his contemporaries as well. Apparently 70 years from time of death of original copyright owner...if there was one. I will also look at the actual title of the item. Perhaps make it 'Professor Powsey' because that is how he would have been publicly known as were the other diving professors of the time, like Professor Reddish, Professor Cecil and Professor Osbourne. It would be interesting if all these performers had items and it would be interesting for 'Pier Diving' (or some better term) to have it's own article. It seems many people appreciated it in the UK between the late 19th century and perhaps WW2...possibly what is the 'golden age' of pier culture. There seems to be evidence of other similar 'pier culture' attractions elsewhere, perhaps in Europe and certainly in the US, for example, where there were the diving horses. Again, cheers to all and for the assurances that this might be a worthwhile article.Afewthings (talk) 17:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Afewthings, when thedraft is accepted as an article, we can make a WP:REDIRECT from the name Professor Powsey to your article, so that anyone typing in or linking that name will go straight to the article. I agree about having an article on pier diving; good suggestion -- that way all of the names and stunts can be in one place. BTW, I'm going to put a link to The Wikipedia Adventure on your talk page; it's an easy and fun and fairly quick way to learn many of the basics that currently you are trying to figure out. Happy editing, and thanks for the fun content! Softlavender (talk) 23:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

OK, that's great...I asked another question about how to change the title from Bert Powsey to Professor Powsey. The books on Pier culture for reference are excellent and would make a good contribution to a Pier culture page itself. Gosh, you all work incredibly quickly. I'm glacial!Afewthings (talk) 00:58, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

My profile not showing when searching

Hi, so I created and edited my profile a couple of months ago and I thought I have to wait for 3 months for it to get approved and published. But, I still can't find it while searching it, neither in Wikipedia search nor in google. Can you help me bring it up?

Here is the link to my page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pezhmanmusic Pezhmanmusic (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Pezhmanmusic: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your userpage should show up on the top of the page, and it should bring up the userpage you wrote. However, in such occasions in searching, all you need to do is type (User:____) (___ is username) and there you have it. However, if you are creating a biography, please go to WP:Draft. However, I do believe you are talking about your user page. Happy editing! Severestorm28 (talk) 00:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Pezhmanmusic Your user page is not article space, and is not searchable by search engines. It is a place to tell about yourself as a Wikipedia editor only. It is not a social media style "profile". Autobiographical articles (not profiles) are highly discouraged, see the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 00:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Pezhmanmusic. This is the English Wikipedia, and it does not have profiles. It has encyclopedia articles and various "behind the scenes" pages such as user pages. The purpose of your user page is to describe your interests and work as a Wikipedia editor. It is not for the purpose of promoting yourself in Farsi. User pages are not indexed by Google, only encyclopedia articles are. I have tagged your user page for deletion because self-promotion is not permitted. Cullen328 (talk) 00:58, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Talk page archiving

Hey there. I'm trying to set up auto archiving of my talk page. I believe I've added User:lowercase sigmabot III and set it up correctly per the instructions on WP:ARCHIVE. Though I won't know for sure until it completes its next run. I was wondering if someone might be able to check if there's anything I've missed? The style of archiving I'd like is one archive per year.

I'm also confused as to whether or not I also need to add Legobot for automatic indexing of archives created by Sigmabot. If so, do I just stick that on my talk page, underneath the substring for Sigmabot? Sideswipe9th (talk) 23:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sideswipe9th: Welcome to the teahouse. Archiving a talk page may not be easy, but you followed the instructions. You wrote: 1 archive for each year, so that will probably take long. However, you may copy this and paste to your talk page:

{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo=old(90d)
| archive=User talk:Severestorm28/Archive %(counter)d
| counter=1
| maxarchivesize=75K
| archiveheader={{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minthreadsleft=4
| minthreadstoarchive=1
}}

I think the bot for this is Misza Bot, which this bot is ok, too. Just paste that on the talk page, and you're all set. It should archive a discussion. If it doesn't, please let me know. Happy editing! Severestorm28 (talk) 00:46, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Severestorm28: Cheers. That looks pretty similar to how I have lowercase sigmabot III set up, which uses the same config structure. From reading the documentation it seems that Sigmabot took over MiszaBot's functions at some point, so uses the same config lines. From looking at the bot's contributions, it seems as though it takes about seven hours to run and starts around midnight UTC, so hopefully by the time I wake up tomorrow I'll know for sure if it's at least archiving properly. Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sideswipe9th: However, it might take some time archiving. Maybe 1-2 days it will start, when mine started long, long ago. Severestorm28 (talk) 00:59, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft Submission Rejected - Should I delete the draft?

Courtesy link: Draft:Global Sustainable Tourism Council

Hello, my article has been rejected repeatedly due to notability issues. I have used several third party sources (NYT, The Global and Mail, The Irish Times, ABC Money), but I've been told this draft will not be reviewed further. I've therefore added it to the "Requested Articles" page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Business_and_economics/Organizations#G

It seems that an article cannot be created on this topic while my original draft exists. Should I request it be deleted? Airizarry018 (talk) 01:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Airizarry018 Welcome to Tea House! I added a courtesy link, because otherwise people wouldn't what Draft/requested article you're referring to. While your Article submission was rejected the first time due to sourcing, the second time the primary feedback was that it didn't satisfy WP:NORG and that's likely going to be an issue even if you request an article creation. I don't think deleting a Draft will help increase the likelihood of this article being created. We're all WP:VOLUNTEERS and write about what we're interested in. More significant sources will need to come along, before this can become a notable topic. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 01:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Airizarry018, I am sympathetic to your situation because it looks like this organization should be notable based on the claims in your draft. But I look at the evidence. I am a New York Times subscriber and I took a look at that source. That was a passing mention and what is required is significant coverage. So, you can list lots of high quality sources that have given passing mentions to this organization and it will be a big waste of your time, and that of your fellow Wikipedia editors. What is required is significant coverage in several independent reliable sources and that is the only way that an acceptable article can be created. Deleting the draft is not a good idea because it is possible that next week or next month, the organization will receive significant coverage. As for "Requested articles", that is one of the least effective areas of Wikipedia, and it seems to be quite rare that articles are actually created there. And when they are, it is because significant coverage in reliable, independent sources exists amd is brought forward. If you just produce evidence of the existence of those sources, then the article becomes possible. No solid evidence of notability means that no article is possible. Cullen328 (talk) 03:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Payment

Why do you ask for donations instead of using advertisement services 2600:8800:709B:9900:8D1F:72F8:11E6:8F90 (talk) 01:41, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to Tea House! Normally this space is for asking questions on editing Wikipedia, not discussions but I’ll briefly suggest reading Wikipedia:Funding Wikipedia through advertisements. Happy reading and hopefully editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 01:49, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

I do not donate dollars to Wikipedia because the Wikimedia Foundation is awash in cash. I donate my brainpower and my time, which I consider to be much more valuable. Simply sign up for a Wikipedia account and you can turn off the fundraising appeals forever. Cullen328 (talk) 03:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

To what extent is YouTube valid as a source?

As far as I can tell, in articles about YouTube channels, it is automatically used as a source. I have also seen it used as a source on multiple articles such as Danny Gonzalez, Jarvis Johnson, and Drew Gooden. I'm wondering how much I am able to use YouTube as a source and exactly when this is viable. I'm asking for a draft about a YouTube channel. Thanks in advance - signed, KawaiiManiac (talk) 00:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, KawaiiManiac. The vast majority of YouTube content is unfit for use as reliable sources on Wikipedia. Official YouTube channels of respected media organizations are the main exception to that general rule, because they have editorial control, fact checking, and correct their errors. Cullen328 (talk) 01:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Also relevant to your specific question is Self-published or questionable sources as sources on themselves. Cullen328 (talk) 01:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello KawaiiManiac, in addition to what Cullen has already said, WP:YOUTUBE seems relevant to your question, which states that "Many YouTube videos of newscasts, shows, or other content of interest to Wikipedia visitors are copyright violations and should not be linked, either in the article or in citations. Links should be evaluated for inclusion with due care on a case-by-case basis." TipsyElephant (talk) 03:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Apocalypse Cow

I searched for a Wikipedia article on Apocalypse Cow (documentary by George Monbiot, Channel 4, January 2020) - which presented a vision where farms as we know them cease to exist and that most food is produced in vats or in bio-reactors on an industrial scale. The title 'Apocalypse Cow' relates to the premise that cows and other ruminants have devastated the ancient landscape, specifically, removing trees by devouring saplings before they have a chance to mature.

I had hoped to find a balanced critique of this documentary. However, I could not find it - but I did find Apocalypse Cow, apparently, the title of an episode of The Simpsons. On further investigation, I found several claims to the title 'Apocalypse Cow' and so, evidently, The Simpsons does not have a monopoly on this title. See, for reference:

'Apocalypse Cow' (The Simpsons)

Apocalypse Cow (IMDb)

'Apocalypse Cow' (documentary)

'Apocalypse Cow' (book)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12925656-apocalypse-cow (2012)

'Apocalypse Cow' (beer)

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26/46080/

There are many more links, but I think the above suffice to make my point.

I was about to rename Apocalypse Cow as Apocalypse Cow (The Simpsons) and repurpose the original page as a disambiguation page as a precursor to creating Apocalypse Cow (documentary), but hesitated because I did not want to risk starting an edit war with The Simpsons' Fandom (I experienced something similar many years ago). These days I do not wish to indulge in any activity that invites conflict on Wikipedia - been there before, and have little patience for that.

I trust that there is consensus in favour of what I have in mind. Are there those kind souls who would support me in making above suggested edits and, if necessary, defend such actions should such changes be challenged?
Enquire (talk) 07:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Enquire: Apocalypse Cow (The Simpsons) already exists as a redirect to Apocalypse Cow, so as this wouldn't be an uncontroversial move, I think your best option is to test for consensus by bringing this discussion to Requested moves and WikiProject The Simpsons. However, I don't know what your experience of Simpsons fandom was like, or whether that would be reflected in current members of the WikiProject. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 07:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Enquire: The response above isn't not correct, and the Simpsons article is at the correct title. Disambiguation in titles is only necessary if there are multiple articles with the exact same name, and cannot be distinguished from each other in any other way. Since there are no other articles named "Apocalypse Cow", the Simpsons episode get to take that tile. If you want to create a new article for the documentary, create one at Draft:Apocalypse Cow (documentary), and when completed, we'll deal with page moves then. Also pinging ClaudineChionh ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 07:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Secondary sources

My article was rejected because it says I need secondary reliable sources. I used verified sources like Comicbook.com and NintendoLife. I am curious what I can do to better my draft so that it is published. Here is a link to my draft. Please help! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Retro_Room_Games Johnroomusic (talk) 06:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Johnroomusic: The reason is that sources need to discuss The Retro Room Games specifically, instead of the games they produce. This is what we mean by "significant coverage" in WP:GNG. If you can only find sources about the games, then you should be writing an article about the games, not the company. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 07:47, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism on a article

I doubt Chandrakant Nimba Patil vandalised by someone, it should be added in Stub. Newton Euro (talk) 13:13, 2 December 2021 (UTC) Ghodasgaon, Jalgaon article possibly have original research, can someone add inline tag behind OR in this article. Length, Width in infobox probably fall into original research category.Newton Euro (talk) 13:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro: Welcome to the teahouse. Articles rated stub are usually recently created, and the vandalism you talked about is now reverted. Sometime, you can undo the vandalism-account edits. Thank you for reporting vandalism, a small vandalism report can still make a difference. Severestorm28 (talk) 13:27, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Re-introduce edits after clarifying why on the talk page?

Is it ok to reintroduce edits if you describe why on the person who reverted them's talk page? AverroesII (talk) 13:29, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

AverroesII, welcome to the Teahouse! I would suggest reading WP:BRD and following accordingly. Most of the time this can be avoided when referencing reliable sources when we make edits and add information to an article as opposed to no references which is deemed original research. --ARose Wolf 13:38, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Sandbox responsibility

Are we allowed to use sandboxes for making silly non-factual wikipedia pages? I'd feel a bit accountable if my sandbox page could be linked to from wikimedia commons because I used an image in the sandbox. (wikimedia commons keeps a list of all "File usage on other wikis". Michael.koh.zs (talk) 13:33, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Michael.koh.zs Welcome to Tea House and thank you for your question! In short, no. Wikipedia:User pages has guidelines, they should all aid in directly improving Wikipedia content and or policies related to Wikipedia. Because you mentioned non factual, worth reading Wikipedia:Humor and WP:HOAX as well. Happy (verifiable and factual) editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

necesito ayuda para crear la biografia de un productor musical

FYI

– Fixed formatting. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 04:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

alguien puede ayudarme ? David15150 (talk) 04:13, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello David15150, since this is English Wikipedia, articles must be written in English, and you also need to use English when posting questions, replies, and comments here. You would have more luck trying to post your draft on Spanish Wikipedia: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portada. Good Luck! Softlavender (talk) 04:36, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Softlavender I've sent them a Welcome greeting in Spanish using WP:TWINKLE ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

User rights

Hello. Can someone please tell me what user rights are? Such as Pending Changes Reviewer, Rollbacker, Autopatrolled, New Page Patroller etc. What can a user do with these rights? Thank you. Richard Michael William (talk) 09:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Richard Michael William: You can read about them at Wikipedia:User access levels. However, note that having a lot more of these levels doesn't necessarily mean you're a "better editor", and your opinions during discussions carry the same amount of weight as any other editor out there. Don't try to get as many of these levels as you can if you won't use them (that's called hat collecting). Instead, your main focus should be on creating/improving Wikipedia content, which you can already do. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 09:29, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Thank you! --Richard Michael William (talk) 09:32, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: After reading Wikipedia:User access levels, I'm thinking of using Rollback right. Because I regularly revert vandalisms. If I am given this right, it will be easier to me to prevent vandalisms. Although I use Twinkle, RedWarn tool. And I don't want this right to show off. Thank you. --Richard Michael William (talk) 09:43, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

The place to ask for this, Richard Michael William, is Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback. But I suggest that you wait till you can display a record of least half a year of carefully judged edits before making the request. -- Hoary (talk) 11:58, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Just a comment on "Rollback" and anti-vandalism in general: what WP really, really needs are more anti-vandalism editors who look at an edit and check properly that it's wrong before reverting. Particularly on little things, like dates that something happened, there are particularly harmful vandals who make tiny changes, which are very hard to diagnose and correct; they're not obviously wrong at a glance. But there are also well-informed casual editors, often IP-users, who spot this sort of error and correct it, but who don't know the importance of adding a source - and they promptly get reverted by a well-meaning anti-vandal, even though their data were actually correct. So the most valuable people aren't those who've got Rollback privileges; the most valuable people are the careful, quiet fact-checkers. And we've all got fact-checking privileges. Elemimele (talk) 12:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Hoary: Thank you. I'll try my best to revert more vandalisms. --Richard Michael William (talk) 14:32, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Changing quotation marks

Is there a tool which allows for curly quotation marks to be changed over to straight quotation marks in an article that's already published. Thank you OpticalBloom241 (talk) 14:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

OpticalBloom241 Yes there's a script for it User:DemonDays64/Scripts/Dumb quotes. You can follow steps there to add script to your user scripts, and then on article pages, there's a button "Dumb quotes" which fixes them. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:57, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

How can I make an article with a conflict of interest?

Hello! I do have some experience with Wikipedia but I cannot find anything about this topic. If I want to write an article, theoretically on a friend with notability, how do I disclose a conflict of interest? Am I even allowed to write it at all? Any feedback is appreciated, thanks. AWESOMEDUDE0614 (talk) 15:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

If you are being paid, then the guidance is at WP:PAID. If it is just a friend, and no payment is involved, I suggest you follow the advice at WP:COIEDIT. QuiteUnusual (talk) 15:25, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Approval of Drafts

Next discussion : #Approved

Courtesy link: Draft:High School Shooting the Musical
Courtesy link: Draft:Bruce Novakowski

Will my pages High School Shooting the Musical And Bruce Novakowski be apporaved? YouTubeGamer17 (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @YouTubeGamer17: Hello YouTube gamer! In their current state, no. Both are completely unsourced. See your first article for assistance on writing your first article. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:20, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

How do we save our planet?

Tachodxteam (talk) 16:21, 2 December 2021 (UTC) How do we save our planet Since the end of the last ice age, humans have developed tools and machines and have modified the land for agriculture and long-term settlement. As the population has grown and new technologies have spread across cultures and continents, more and more of the planet’s resources have been pressed into serving the species. In the process, human activities have disrupted the natural order of the environment by depopulating and eliminating species and adding harmful chemicals to the air, water, and soil—activities that are changing the climate and the structure and function of ecosystems, as well as the biological communities they contain.

Hello Tachodxteam and welcome to the Teahouse. Do you have a question concerning editing or navigating Wikipedia? --ARose Wolf 16:32, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Tachodxteam Welcome to Tea House! Wikipedia is not a forum to organize, though the cause of Climate movement is a noble one. Happy reading and hopefully editing! To understand why Wikipedia is not the forum, read WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS and WP:ADVOCACY, I say this as an activist myself. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:33, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

How to make new section and changing profile picture?

Hi! I want to know how to make a section like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suga_(rapper) the 'Awards and nominations' one and how to change the thumbnail picture for Cho Seungyoun's page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Seung-youn). I have changed it once but everyone removed my edit so I think need to know how to do it properly. Please kindly teach me on how to do it, thank you in advance! Woodzallrounder (talk) 15:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Woodzallrounder, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure what the issue is with the awards table, but one way to reproduce a structure from one article in another is to copy the source and then edit it: go Edit source on Suga (rapper), copy the relevant part of the source, and then Edit source on Cho Seung-youn, paste the copy in, and change the content as required. Remember that everything should be cited to a source.

As for images: as far as I can see, all the images you have uploaded to Wikipedia and to Commons have been deleted for copyright reasons. Wikipedia takes note of copyright more than many sites, which unfortunately puts limits on what pictures we can include. Your best bet for getting an image in the article is to take a picture of him yourself, if that is possible: if you do that, then you will own the copyright, and have the legal ability to license it suitably as you upload it to Commons. If you can't do that, then your best chance is to contact Woodz's agent and ask them to get the copyright owner to license a picture in a way that Wikipedia requires: it will not be enough that they give you permission to use it in Wikipedia, they will have to license it under CC-BY-SA, so that anybody may reuse it. If they are willing to do this, then they should send a mail as specified at donating copyright materials. When they have done that, you'll be able to upload it to Commons. --ColinFine (talk) 17:00, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Am I allowed to make templates?

Hi, I want to make templates, but must I be a template editor for creating templates for people to use in Wikipedia. I am curious about this and I am interested in making templates. Yodas henchman (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Yodas henchman Welcome to Tea House and the world of templates! I'd recommend asking in Wikipedia:Requested templates for assistance with creating your first template/getting ideas. You don't need a special permission in most cases. Happy templating! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Changing Display Title on Business Page

How do you change the display title on your company's page? I'd like to change the title of "Barnes Group Inc." to "Barnes" -- we had a company rebrand 3 weeks ago and would like to display the official name as "Barnes" Chrissyd0425 (talk) 16:03, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

There are not supposed to be "company pages" here. There are supposed to be independently written articles about companies. Your "company page" reads like a company brochure--and not only because it consistently refers to the company as "we." I'm really surprised it hasn't been tagged for deletion. Uporządnicki (talk) 16:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Chrissyd0425, Wikipedia articles should have as title whatever the subject is usually called, rather than its official name; e.g. "Joe Biden", not "Joseph Robinette Biden Jr." I tried to check what Barnes is usually called by looking at the sources cited in Barnes Group, but none of them mentions it at all. Maproom (talk) 16:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

OP has been trying to replace the lead paragraph of the article with a copyvio from the company's own web site. I've reverted and requested a RevDel. --Finngall ^talk 16:46, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

I reverted you again. A simple statement on what the company does is (probably more than) adequate. I'm not even sure about that "wide range of end markets and customers." I think that's what's termed "weasel words" here, and it smacks of promotional hype. I see there's a long history of this with that article. I'm not an administrator, but I suspect the article isn't going to be here very long. Much as I loathe and abominate Facebook, might I suggest that that's where you want to go with this. Uporządnicki (talk) 16:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

I would think that a company with a single-letter NYSE ticker symbol would meet the notability standard, but I've been wrong before on such things. --Finngall ^talk 17:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Chrissyd0425:, a bit of explanation: the reason this has gone a bit messy is because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a trade directory or web-hosting site. It only includes information that independent sources have written about a subject, and is extremely suspicious of what sources write about themselves. This has two consequences for you. Since you, I assume, work for Barnes, you have a conflict of interest, and need to read WP:COI for the steps you should take. Basically, you need to declare that you have a conflict of interest, and if you want anything changed on the Barnes article, you have to stop doing it yourself, and instead request that it should be done, on the associated talk-page. Make sure you state exactly what you want doing, and give a source to justify the change. This can include changing the article's title (which is described as a move, because technically the entire article's contents are moved to a new article with the new name). If the only source available to justify something is a press-release from the company, it may still be acceptable, if the change is uncontroversial. A rebranding name-change would probably be okay; a statement that you've just produced the best aircraft parts ever, for example, definitely wouldn't be. If you are paid by Barnes, you should also declare this, see WP:PAID. The other consequence is that unfortunately neither you, nor anyone else associated with Barnes, has any control over what appears in Wikipedia's article, which may include positives, negatives, and everything between, though we are obliged to ensure that everything we write is accurate, and that we maintain a balance. Good luck! Elemimele (talk) 17:37, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

(oh, and a post-script on copyright and why you got rev-del'd: Wikipedia has a most unusual copyright situation: readers are granted the right to use WP text and pictures in whatever way they want, even for-profit, provided they indicate where it came from. If a company's own website text appears here, the company would be giving the whole world total rights to do whatever they want with the text, including using it for a competitor's own site or brochures. This is not a healthy situation for most companies! You wouldn't believe how many company employees have discovered that they've attempted to give the whole world total rights to adopt their employer's trademarks... For this reason, although many people try to insert information directly from company websites, it will always get deleted because it's about 99.9999% certain that the copyright shouldn't or couldn't be granted like that). Elemimele (talk) 17:44, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Chrissyd0425: Further note--as Barnes is a currently a disambiguation page for a variety of articles on subjects of the same name, and rightly ought to remain so (noting that I just now added Barnes Group to that page), the new article name would likely be "Barnes (company)" or some such. Hope this helps. --Finngall ^talk 18:07, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

my saved articles/reading lists

Hi all

(a) how do I find my reading lists when I have Wikipedia open in my browser (Opera, W10)? Even when I'm logged in I can't see a link to them anywhere

(b) When I'm using the android app I only seem to be able to access my reading lists by saving whatever page/article I'm looking at (even if I don't want it) & then the 'Saved' button will take me to my list...is there a direct link somewhere & if so, where? This is the case even when I'm logged in.

(c) Oddly, even if I'm on the page of an a article I KNOW I've previously saved, it doesn't actually show as 'saved'...the bookmark icon still shows as 'save'. I just tried saving one again, to the same reading list & it is still showing as 'save', not 'saved'...what on earth is going on!

Any advice/help much appreciated as I'm studying & finding not being able to find my reading lists very frustrating!!

Thanks,

Jeffkes (talk) 17:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Jeffkes, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that reading lists are only available on the app, and not in the browser or desktop version. See MW:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ#Reading lists and offline reading. --ColinFine (talk) 18:10, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello ColinFine & thanks for your response. Although your answer clarifies my 1st question, unfortunately the page you linked to doesn't answer my 2nd & 3rd questions, so if you, or anyone else, can help with those I'd be very grateful!

TIA

Minor question

I know this probably has no importance but can someone who already adopted somebody still be adopted by yet another user? 68.50.116.194 (talk) 17:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

There's no formal process and it has no formal meaning, so... sure. As many Wikipedia users can 'adopt' you as want to. DS (talk) 18:16, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

question 2

when will i become a verified editor? Charlidamillion (talk) 19:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

There is no such thing as a "verified editor". There is (auto)confirmed (4 days old + 10 edits) and extended-confirmed (30 days old + 500 edits). —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 19:47, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Approved

Previous discussion : #Approval of Drafts

How do I get my pages Bruce Novakowski and High School Shooting the Musical approved? YouTubeGamer17 (talk) 20:41, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@YouTubeGamer17: You need to expand them some more and add reliable sources to them supporting the information stated in the article. I have given you a link to something that will help you in your previous question. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

YouTubeGamer17 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You need to submit them for review, I've added the ability for you to do so. They will not be accepted in their current form, as they have no sources. A Wikipedia article (not a "page") summarizes what independent reliable sources choose to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 20:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

i am new to this

i am new to this i ned help MFxDemon (talk) 21:58, 2 December 2021 (UTC)MFxDemon

You seem to be confused on what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is not a place to write about things you made up, if you are looking for something like that you will need to go somewhere else. If you are interested in writing about real things in an academic manner feel free to help by making small changes to articles like correcting spelling errors or reverting vandalism. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 22:05, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

What to add to this article

What can add to this article thromidia brycei to improve it? Maomaoox (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Maomaoox. You could do with adding a source (or sources) to the section Thromidia brycei#Other species. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Archiving

How do you archive talk pages? Kaleeb18 (talk) 20:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kaleeb18: See H:ARC. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze the Wolf: Are the bots just for user talk pages? Kaleeb18 (talk) 01:10, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kaleeb18: Nope! In fact, Teahouse uses a bot to archive the page. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:29, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Gotcha Kaleeb18 (talk) 01:52, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Please help

I uploaded a non free file to Wikipedia using non free file wizard. It is (image removed). Now it is saying something, which I cannot understand. Please tell me what is to be done. I have already stated that is a non free file, please don't delete it. Itcouldbepossible (talk) 07:59, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Itcouldbepossible: The image isn't at risk of being deleted; rather, it's only going to be resized into a smaller resolution to fulfill Wikipedia's policy on non-free content. A bot will automatically do this for you, so you don't have to do anything. You can read about non-free image resolution at WP:IMAGERES. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 08:10, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Also note that non-free images should only appear on the page the image is intended for, so I've removed the image here. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 08:10, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby Thanks Itcouldbepossible (talk) 08:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: If you ever need to refer to a non-free image, then add a colon (:) immediately before the word "file" and it will turn into a link - so [[:file:Example.jpg]] gives file:Example.jpg. Linking that way is permitted as it does not cause the image to display where it is being discussed. Mjroots (talk) 17:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Ping Itcouldbepossible, who the above comment should have been directed at. Mjroots (talk) 17:44, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @Mjroots. I learned yet a new thing. I will remember people like you all through my editing career. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} 02:31, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Reinstating a deleted page

An article / wiki page on Sarala Roy was recently removed due to a citation issue. How can I find that article, fix the citation, and put it back in? Please help, thank you. Chetanroy (talk) 05:23, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Sarala Roy wasn't removed for a "citation issue" it was removed as a copyright violation. We could only restore it if we receive permission from the copyright holder via VRT. Anyone is allowed to write a new version though. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Victor. I can create a new page but I would like to see what was written there and to see who I need to follow up with on the copyright violation. Is it possible to find the old page to review the contents? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.254.17.7 (talk) 13:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Chetanroy, deleted pages containing significant copyright violations cannot be restored for legal reasons. Wikipedia takes copyright much more seriously than many other websites because our licensing allows for free re-use of all of our text content, as long as attribution is given. That means that Wikipedia must be very strict when copyright violations are involved. Cullen328 (talk) 07:10, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

muchas dudas y con ganas de aprender

A quienes se refieren cuando hablan Alos recién llegados? a nosotros los usuarios investigando quizá

lo siento es que busco cosas raras en la internet 2800:200:F900:108B:EDD1:6D41:5986:C112 (talk) 04:24, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. This is the English language Wikipedia, where we write and converse in the English language. You may want to try the Spanish Wikipedia. But please do not ask vague philosophical questions. Be concise and specific and direct, with a focus on improving encyclopedias. Cullen328 (talk) 05:10, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, 2800:200:F900:108B:EDD1:6D41:5986:C112, and welcome to Wikipedia! While efforts to improve Wikipedia are always welcome, unfortunately your contributions are not written in an English that is good enough to be useful. You appear to be more familiar with Spanish; did you know there is a Wikipedia in Spanish? You may prefer to contribute there instead. In any case, welcome to the project, and thank you for your efforts! If you need help, please feel free to notify me on my talk page. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:42, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

¡Bienvenido!

¡Hola 2800:200:F900:108B:EDD1:6D41:5986:C112, bienvenido a Wikipedia! Si bien todos los esfuerzos para mejorar la Wikipedia son bien recibidos, desdichadamente su nivel de inglés no parece idóneo para hacer contribuciones de utilidad, o las contribuciones no estan escritas en inglés. ¿Sabía que existe una Wikipedia en español? Quizás prefiera contribuir ahí. De cualquiera forma, reciba la más cordial bienvenida a Wikipedia y nuestro agradecimiento por esforzarse. Si necesita ayuda, puede notificármelo en mi página de discusión. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:42, 3 December 2021 (UTC) ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:43, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

How to get Modern Skin back?

I was editing my Preferences and when clicking Preview to see what the other skins looked like, I didn't realize that it selected the skin I previewed, so when I scrolled down to change other preferences in Appearance, I clicked Save and now Modern isn't on the list of Skins anymore. I've been using this skin since 2010, maybe earlier, and it's the easiest on my eyes. How do I get it back?

Schizowallflower (talk) 08:41, 3 December 2021 (UTC) Schizowallflower (talk) 08:41, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Schizowallflower Welcome to Tea House! I am not 100% certain but I believe it's the "legacy vector" available here [7]. Otherwise ask at WP:VPT ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:46, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Schizowallflower: I'm afraid you've lost it for good – only four skins are maintained (to make life easier for developers) and Modern has been deprecated. Try out the current skins to see if any of them work well for you, and see the discussion at § 'Modern' not selectable any longer for background. @Shushugah: there are two versions of Vector available – the old ("legacy") one and the current/new one. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 09:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

You are a lifesaver! I went to the Discussion you linked and through a couple tips from other users I was directed to an archived Preferences page that had Modern as a selectable option. Thank you.

Schizowallflower (talk) 09:13, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh, OK, good luck with that! As noted, the skin is no longer supported so it could disappear completely at any time, so don't get too attached. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 09:15, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up to Fuad Hamza page

Hi,

I came across the page of Fuad Hamza, and am trying to correct erroneous information about him. It is written there that Fuad Hamza was from Palestine, and the proof presented for this was from a single source, a PhD by one student who had it wrong in there. There is also a reference that he may be a Druze from Syria -- it is also wrong. Fuad Hamza is a famous personality in Lebanon's history, and hails from the village of Aabay in Lebanon.

Here is evidence from leading newspaper in the country: ^[1]

You can also find in various respected resources that Fuad Hamza is a member of the Druze community in Lebanon, including these two:

^[2]

^[3]

Can you please help me correct this?

Thank you Wikialma Wikialma 14:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC) Wikialma 14:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikialma (talk • contribs)

References

Hello, Wikialma. As you were told in October, the place to bring this up is at Talk:Fuad Hamza. If you want your changes to be accepted, you need to achieve consensus among interested editors by discussion on the talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 16:33, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Having taken the time to pore over some of the sources, "he was from Palestine" seems extremely dubious for the reason the OP indicated. I will post something on the talk page. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 09:43, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Perm request

Hello! A bit of an odd question. I have an alt account called Blaze Fire Wolf (publicly disclosed on my userpage), and on the userpage of the alt I have stated that I'll only use it for a various number of reasons, one of those being an edit to an article I'd rather not have connected to my main account. Since I have made 0 edits so far on it (Because I created it a while back and then forgot I had it, hence why it's older than this account), would I be able to request perms like autoconfirmed and extended autoconfirmed for it if I ever feel the need to edit using it? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf Definitely! It's one of the explicitly stated scenarios in WP:PERM ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:35, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf: If you want to use another account for the purposes of editing controversial articles, linking it to the main account would defeat the purpose. Per WP:VALIDALT, section "privacy", non-disclosure of the link between accounts is acceptable in that scenario. (Of course, you cannot request permissions if the accounts are not linked.) Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:26, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Two people with the same name

Hello - I would like to create a page for a person who has the same name as someone already listed on Wiki. One is an actor and is not on Wiki. The other is a hockey player by the same name. When you click the actor's name, it automatically goes to the hockey players page. Griff3161 (talk) 16:58, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Griff3161! I recently encountered this problem when making the article Francis Bourgeois (trainspotter), my suggestion would be to name the page "(person's name) (actor)", then monitor the pageviews of both pages for a while, and then the actor's page could be renamed and made the primary topic, or the person's name (without the "actor") could be turned into a disambiguation page if that makes sense? wizzito | say hello! 17:08, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

It looks like you're trying to create an article about yourself. Can you please read this page? Thanks! wizzito | say hello! 17:12, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Griff3161 Wikipedia articles and IMBd cannot be used as references for Wikipedia articles. David notMD (talk) 20:36, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

It is about me. I'm not the hockey player and wanted to distinguish between he and I. If you select my name in the credits that are listed on this site, it goes to the hockey player. I just wanted to separate us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Griff3161 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Distinguish between him and me, not he and I. Uporządnicki (talk) 19:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Unless you can find references other than Wikipedia articles and IMBd, your attempt to turn User:Griff3161/sandbox into an article about yourself will fail. Also, see WP:AUTO. David notMD (talk) 21:19, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

@Griff3161: Sir, WP is not reliable source and you can not add WP, IMDb as source. According to WP policy you can not write article about yourself. You can request a article for writing WP : Request article. @David notMD:Hello, This actor deserves a WP articles, I search on Web, he really was in Forest Gump and played the character of Ted with greatest of time Tom Hanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newton Euro (talk • contribs)

@Griff3161: I fixed all the Wikipedia articles that mention Steven Griffith the actor but incorrectly linked to Steven Griffith the hockey player. GoingBatty (talk) 05:04, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the links that connected me to the hockey player. And thank you so much for correcting my grammar. Sheesh. Case closed. Over and out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Griff3161 (talk • contribs) 13:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Milana Keller AfD

This article is nominated for deletion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Milana_Keller_(2nd_nomination). I am curious because she is walking in shows that are the top of her field, so that would seem to me to meet the WP:ENTERTAINER requirement for models. I would love to understand better why it doesn't or if the WP:GNG supersedes it. Thanks! FiddleheadLady (talk) 22:25, 2 December 2021 (UTC) FiddleheadLady (talk) 22:25, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

FiddleheadLady welcome to Tea House! I didn’t see your arguments in the AfD nomination itself. That would be a more relevant venue than here. It’s the 2nd nomination so it didn’t survive a deletion attempt the first time. See WP:CANVAS as well. You can alert others about a discussion, but only in a neutral way. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:34, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Ah sorry, I thought since it was more of a question/curiosity than an argument, that I should post it here instead of the AfD nomination. I can post the question there instead. Thanks! FiddleheadLady (talk) 15:24, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

How to add map in a article ?

Shirsada Hanuman Temple article do not have a map, add a map in it. Newton Euro (talk) 07:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro Welcome to Tea House! A great place to ask would be on WikiProject Map's talk page, available here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps. Happy editing and navigating! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:49, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro: I've added a pushpin map to the infobox with this edit. If you want something else, you'll need to be more specific. Deor (talk) 16:29, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Archiving teahouse

When do they usually archive teahouse conservations? TheAlienMan2002 (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@TheAlienMan2002: Hello AlienMan! Scroll up to the top of the page and it says this, "Completed questions are archived within 3 days." ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:14, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf: thank you. TheAlienMan2002 (talk) 20:16, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@TheAlienMan2002: No problem! Glad I could help! ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@TheAlienMan2002: To further add on to Blaze The Wolf's answer, a completed question means a section that has not had anyone edit that section for three consecutive days. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

And to further further add, the delay for archival can and has been modified depending on the volume of queries. Actually, right now, the archival template uses the magic code algo = old(48h), so it is actually two days. (It will probably never be shorter than a day or longer than a week in the foreseeable future.) Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:39, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
That's what I get for not checking the entire page in source editor any more... —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:45, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

What does -32 written in red mean in a Users contribution?

Mikkyly (talk) 17:23, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mikkyly: It means that edit removed 32 characters from the page in question. Green numbers mean that many characters were added. --Jayron 32 17:28, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mikkyly: Welcome to the Teahouse! More specifically, it means the edit reduced the page byte size by 32. It's possible, for example, that the editor removed 1,000 characters, added 968 characters, and changed any number of characters. For more information, see Help:Watchlist#How to read a watchlist (or Recent Changes). Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

COI/CITESPAM - delete, tag or revise?

What do we do about an editor's work that was done predominantly to WP:CITESPAM: "citation spamming include academics and scientists using their editing privileges primarily to add citations to their own work". The editor was recently blocked for sockpuppetry. The user knew full well that they weren't supposed to cite themselves, deliberately obscuring their authorship on many of the citations by omitting to mention any author, or hiding their co-authorship by mentioning only the primary author or listing themselves as "and colleagues". They have created hundreds of articles based on their own professional work (citing dozens of their own works, and their colleagues' works, in each) and it's practically impossible to extract their CITESPAM without just torching the whole article. (One example, Addilal.) In other cases, they CITESPAMed within hundreds of other articles (which they didn't create) to add citations to their own work for minor inclusions (like their book mentioned different animal species, so they added their book to each animal's article). (One example, [8]) The latter scenario is easier to solve (remove their inserted CITESPAM), but the former scenario is a more complicated issue. I'm trying to clean up the mess, but not seeking to 'erase' everything. I need some guidance for a balanced approach. Most policies about removing edits refer to banned editors making edits after their ban. I haven't found any guidelines covering this scenario. Platonk (talk) 10:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Platonk: I haven't looked into the specific case you are concerned with but WP:SELFCITE has some guidance along the lines that quoting one's own (academic) work is allowed within reason so context is important. The key word in the quote you used, which is certainly spamming, is "primarily". Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:44, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: Like you said, you did NOT look into this case. This user didn't do any of his refspamming "within reason". He engaged for about 2 years to almost exclusively write articles on his field of research. There was no attempt to further improve the encyclopedia. Not everything he added was useless, hence I don't wish to delete everything. But I need another pair of eyes and opinion on what to do with some of this stuff. Platonk (talk) 08:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Platonk, you might ask where the spam experts gather: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam. -- Hoary (talk) 11:59, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Hoary, I think I will check that out. Platonk (talk) 18:06, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

review articles

I made two articles about two series, please review them so that if you confirm, you can direct them to the main space. Both series are being broadcast in Iran, and therefore there is not enough information about it in Google. That's why I made these articles to make the right information available to the public.--Confermation (talk) 18:49, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

You submitted the drafts for review. One has been rejected, the other one is waiting for review. --bonadea contributions talk 18:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

What is your business phone number

2600:6C5D:77F:E6FE:399D:56AD:F57E:1A1B (talk) 19:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Whose business phone number? If you wish to contact the Wikimedia Foundation, the organization that hosts Wikipedia, see here. --Jayron 32 19:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

mya

Mya Koby butterson (talk) 17:53, 3 December 2021 (UTC) Mya

Welcome to the teahouse. Do you have any questions? Severestorm28 (talk) 19:10, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

edit the 404 not found link.

hey, Wikipedia team while reading some pages I found many links which do not open or have a 404 not found error so can you give me the authority to edit those links and add value to that links. Hasi j (talk) 20:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

If those are references we need them. Even if the website can't be tracked down in the internet archive, the reference shows that someone did check the source at the time. Ϣere SpielChequers 20:17, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hasi j, you should probably read up on our policies about external links. The ones you have been adding so far are not appropriate. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 20:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

You should also read WP:COI, based on what you've now posted on your user page. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 21:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Please block IP address 27.7.11.51 for vandalizing article Heera Rajagopal

TheAlienMan2002 (talk) 21:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@TheAlienMan2002: This is not the correct place to report a user for vandalizing Wikipedia. The correct place would be WP:AIV. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:12, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Warned user. Severestorm28 (talk) 21:24, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

What is the Wikimedia Commons website exactly? Is it the server where all the images on Wikipedia are technically stored? Hgh1985 (talk) 21:11, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Hgh1985: Welcome to the teahouse. Yes, that is right, images are stored in the Wikimedia Commons website. However, you can upload images there, or you can click "Upload File" on the left side (in contributions.) Thenafter, you can be successful or not, depending on the file you upload. Anyway, the Commons website, again, is a place to store files and images. Severestorm28 (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Hgh1985. You can find out more at Wikimedia Commons, but basically it's like a big worldwide photo album where people can upload images that they want to share with others. Not everything is OK to upload to Commons, but generally anything that complies with c:Commons:Licensing and c:Commons:Project scope is OK. Wikimedia Commons is a global project which means the files it hosts can be rather easily used by all Wikimedia Foundation projects (not just English Wikipedia). Such content can also be used outside the various Wikimedia projects as long as the c:Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia is complied with. For this reason, many of the images and other media files you see used on English Wikipedia are uploaded to Commons, but not all of them. Commons doesn't accept certain kinds of content that English Wikipedia does allow and this content must be uploaded locally to English Wikipedia instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:03, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Clock template parameter

Is there a parameter I can add to the "Clock" template in my user page to show my local time? I've researched several style and template guides on the topic, but no luck so far. CYAce01 (talk) 05:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@CYAce01: I use {{Time userbox}} on mine – is this what you're after? ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 05:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@ClaudineChionh: I was hoping I'd be able to use {{Clock}} on mine, but not with the default UTC time setting at the bottom. I'd like to see my local time there instead. CYAce01 (talk) 06:04, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@ClaudineChionh: Thanks for the response anyways. I'll keep the {{Time userbox}} option in mind. CYAce01 (talk) 22:39, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

How to fix wide infobox?

{{anomalous_cancellation_in_calculus}} This box is too wide; any advice on how to fix it? Danstronger (talk) 14:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

(not an answer, someone else please answer if you can) I rather doubt that this piece of mathematics should be an infobox (even as template it is somewhat dubious; consider substituting it rather than transcluding it). Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 16:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Danstronger: Welcome to the Teahouse! I suggest you ask at Template talk:Anomalous cancellation in calculus, so the template's creator can be involved in the conversation. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:06, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Danstronger The user to involve in that discussion there would be Cmglee. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:56, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Danstronger, I've made the div 5em wide which should hopefully fit most browsers – if I make it narrower, there's a high risk that one of the words will overrun the box if a user uses a wide font such as Verdana. @Tigraan: it's not an infobox, but uses the infobox class as that floats things to the right, provides adequate whitespace and reduces font size. I tried to emulate right-aligned image thumbnails. Transcluding rather than substituting it reduces maintenance and keeps all copies in sync when the template changes. Hope that helps, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 01:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Grounds for creating a new page for a historical figure

Hi Teahouse gang,

I'd like to create a brand new page for a fairly busy property speculator I've come across from 18th Century Dublin (Tristram Fortick). I have tonnes of documentation to back it up and fill it out, I just wonder what are the grounds for creating a new page. He wasn't famous, but a road in Dublin used to be named after him before it got renamed to something else (Fortick's Lane to Clonliffe Road). I think he was quite important at the time, but nothing has been written about him extensively. I think he would be a great case study for erstwhile property developers in Dublin at that time. I also have a document with his original signature on it and would love to create one of those .svg files from it. Anyone know how to make them?

Regards, Franky Frankysandwich2 (talk) 23:44, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Frankysandwich2, tonnes of documentation suggests primary sources, which won't be usable. Do you also have kilogrammes of published material? If published material about him doesn't exist, then he sounds like splendid material for a doctoral dissertation. In revised form, this might be taken up by a university press; and the book, its reviews, etc, would eventually be fodder for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not the place for original research, however painstaking, and about however remarkable a subject. -- Hoary (talk) 23:51, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Frankysandwich2 you will need to have published sources for references, but they are available. (Though I don't know if there's enough to write an entire article.) I copied Tristram Fortick's name, pasted it into Google Books, and got lots of books that have something about him in them. Choose one of the books about Dublin, Parliament, etc., and below the little snippet quote from the book (with the page number) most have a "button" labeled either Read or Preview. Click that "button" to bring up a page to read, and to take notes from. To the right of the Read or Preview "button" is a More Editions "button". Click on that to get the name of the book publisher, and the publication date. To help you cite those references properly you can read Citing sources. I have no idea how to create a .svg file, but I hope I've been able to help you. Best wishes with your project. Karenthewriter (talk) 00:43, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Scan a signature as normal. Open in an image editing tool such as IrfanView (which I thoroughly recommend to anyone) and Save As to get the file format you want. Alternatively, search for an online conversion tool. I like Zamzar.com Nick Moyes (talk) 03:24, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

NEXTMONTH Alternatives

Hi, I'm currently looking for a template that will give me the next month in numerical form. However, upon finding {{NEXTMONTH}} I see it's been deleted, however the deletion proposal says that there are other templates that replace this. What are those templates? Thanks. -- LemonSlushie 🍋 (talk) (edits) 17:53, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@LemonSlushie: {{NextMonth}} is the template. It has not been deleted, and seems to be working fine. For example, I used it here: June 2024. Is there anything else we can help you with? --Jayron 32 18:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jayron32: Sorry, that's not the template im referencing, I'm talking about Template:NEXTMONTH. Secondly, I need only the number, not the year and the name of the month. -- LemonSlushie 🍋 (talk) (edits) 18:04, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry. My bad. Let me look into it. I'll get back to you. --Jayron 32 18:06, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

The template was nominated for deletion by @Q28:. I would contact that user on their talk page and ask them for clarification. They probably know which template replaced its functionality. --Jayron 32 18:10, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Please use {{#time:n|+1 month}}. --Q28 (talk) 03:35, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

{{MONTHNUMBER|{{CURRENTMONTH1}}+1}} may do what you want. It currently returns 6. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:11, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Checking to see if an editor has edited a page in its history

I regularly patrol the "Recent changes" page for vandalism. Sometimes I notice an editor that might not be a vandal all the time, but just from time to time. I'd like to see if there is a way to check for one particular editor's edits on an article. And to see if they have ever edited said article in the articles history, and then parse those edits etc. Is this possible? Thanks! ♥ ♥Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk)♥ 02:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Th78blue Yes, that’s easy to find. At an article’s View History tab, there’s a link at the top of page to “Find Edits by this User”. Simply paste in their username, and you get a result like this. Alternatively, choose to display the last 500 edits and do a text search for their name with Ctrl-F. You’ll see their name highlighted in yellow in the context of surrounding edits, which I find more helpful. Nick Moyes (talk) 03:13, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

You get another cookie. Thanks for being so helpful all the time. The encyclopedia is better off thanks to you. ♥Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk)♥ 03:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I Am logged in for a year

HeyYearAccount 213234 (talk) 03:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC) I Am Logged in for year YearAccount 213234 (talk) 03:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? If you don't want to be logged in continuously then just log out. Meters (talk) 04:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Editing mistake

I tried adding a song that was missing to a discography on this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Gold), but it seemed to have screwed up the formatting of the boxes. How do I correct this? Also, my sourcing seem to have shown up in the wrong place. Trouserhound (talk) 04:37, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Trouserhound: I reverted the recent IP edits to the Harvey Gold article. You may try again, or post a request on Talk:Harvey Gold to have someone else edit the article. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

can't seem to reset my password

I'm a regular donator to wikimedia, and I'd really like to be logged in so I don't get the reminder banner to donate - I already do each month, but when I try to get a password reset email, I get nothing. I'm pretty sure it's the right email address because I get the thank you email for my donation! I've checked my spam folder, and other locations in my gmail inbox, and I just don't see it anywhere. Hope somebody can help. 71.142.241.125 (talk) 05:31, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

There have been issues with password reset emails going out, but I should note that the email used to set up a donation and the email associated with your account aren't tracked on the same systems. The password emails issue is a known one. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 05:33, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello wrld

Iam new. Spotanus (talk) 05:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Howdy, and welcome to both the Teahouse and Wikipedia as a whole! Let us know if you have any questions, and we'll be happy to help. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 06:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@TheTechnician27 how can i help wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spotanus (talk • contribs) 06:54, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Spotanus. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Community portal for many recommendations of things that you can do to help. Welcome to Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 07:29, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Changing an Article Title

Title change request

Hi there, currently I am working on the article stub entitled 'Australian Aboriginal Progress Association' and I came across a problem. After doing some research I noticed that the title of the organisation is actually 'Australian Aboriginal Progressive Association', rather than 'progress'. Could you confirm or deny this by any chance? As the sources I have found have led me to believe the title of the article is wrong and I was wondering if changing it is an option. Bwal6418 (talk) 11:27, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bwal6418. The best place to discuss such a thing is probably going to be a Talk:Australian Aboriginal Progress Association because that's where you're likely to find editors who might be familiar with the subject matter. Basically, if the title is incorrect, then the page can be WP:MOVEd to a new title; however, it's probably a good idea to at least discuss things first on the article talk page before trying to move the page yourself. You're also going to be expected to "prove" the page needs to be moved by providing links to reliable sources supporting the change. If nobody responds to your post on the article's talk page after a few days, try posting a Template:Please see at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of Australia to see if you can find someone there to help sort this out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi again Bwal6418. It appears that another editor has already moved the article to Australian Aboriginal Progressive Association; so, there's nothing more that needs to be done I guess. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:18, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes I talked to another user who has previous edits on the article to confirm the title was incorrect and they fixed it, but thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwal6418 (talk • contribs) 09:45, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hlw... Im new here..

Oriental Goldbulb (talk) 16:39, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Oriental Goldbulb Welcome to the Teahouse - a place to ask questions and get answers relating to editing Wikipedia. Do you need any assistance with a problem? Nick Moyes (talk) 17:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes tnx,i ve no prblem but i dont knw anything about wikipdia.hw can i edit wikipediia. Plz gimme some advise, Plz help mee.

Oriental Goldbulb, perhaps you'd like to try The Wikipedia Adventure? Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 19:11, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Oriental Goldbulb Rather like driving a car, it's best to set off slowly because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia controlled by quite a lot of 'rules of the road'. Providing you don't simply add "stuff that you happen to know", you might find looking at articles in or around your home town or favourite place might be worthy doing first. You'll get a feeling of how articles have been written, perhaps spotting typos or other small fixes which you can correct. Making sure the written English flows easily and is gramatically correct is almost as important as goof, factual content. You might find certain statement have ^{[citation needed]} written after them, which means we need to find a Reliable Source to insert to support that statement. In time, you might feel confident to add one via the 'Cite' button. You could visit Help:Introduction for further guidance, or come back here if you hit problems. Because it's easy to make mistakes, you might feel other road users appear abrupt with you if you do mess up. But rather than bite back, take a moment to work out what you might have done wrong and keep on the correct side of the road to avoid confrontation. We work by collaboration and consensus, so engaging with other editors is quite normal - as is following what other users advise you to do. That way you'll be helping to build the worlds greatest online encyclopaedia. Good luck, and enjoy the ride. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:46, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Need help regarding Cyclone Jawad

Please some admin or senior editors close the AfD at Cyclone Jawad and move Draft:Cyclone Jawad to mainspace as its ready. 2402:3A80:6FD:B303:55D:9023:51BF:FF3E (talk) 10:25, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Tagged for CSD. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 10:35, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

How to submit a copyright and retrieve deleted article

Hello,

I contributed an article titled, "ot9 Beno". I am an intern for the artist camp and the manager wants the contribution to match his website. ot9beno.com Ceciwrites (talk) 07:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Ceciwrites. Comply immediately with the mandatory Paid contribution disclosure or you may well be blocked. Your boss's wish to have a Wikipedia article "match" his website is an arrogant fantasy that will never become true. This is an encyclopedia, not a website mirror. You have two choices: Resign or push back against these unreasonable demands. Good luck. You are in a difficult position. Cullen328 (talk) 08:01, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Cullen328. I AM NOT PAID TO CONTRIBUTE. I AM AN INTERN/FAN, MY ARTICLE IS IN THE SANDBOX, AND IT HASN'T BEEN PUBLISHED. I AM SEEKING ADVICE BEFORE DOING SO. THANK YOU SIR FOR YOUR KIND AND HELPFUL WORDS. CECIWRITES 09:01, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Ceciwrites, according to Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#Additional notes on who must disclose, interns are considered employees for the purpose of this requirement. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:08, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ceciwrites: At the moment the article is in your sandbox, User:Ceciwrites/sandbox. As it is now, it is nowhere near being acceptable as a Wikipedia article. You will need to explain to your manager that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, where editors write articles that summarize what the best available independent sources have to say about a subject - not what those subjects want said about them.--Gronk Oz (talk) 08:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Gronk Oz: Got it thank you. CECIWRITES 09:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@CECIWRITES: Your sandbox is an exact copy of http://ot9beno.com/about/ . I know you said above that your manager asked for the Wikipedia article to "match" the website, but that does not mean that the copyright on the ot9beno.com no longer exists. Your previous draft was deleted as a copyright violation, and I'm afraid your sandbox will also have to be deleted. More info on your user talk page. --bonadea contributions talk 09:26, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Gronk Oz: I have permission to post it. So that my self and the rest of his fans can know more about him and everyone can add on to his page once its started. I have found the CC license. but not sure about the GNU license. Also is the licensing something they would do? & can I still write this in general? CECIWRITES 10:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Two things: You still haven't complied with the mandatory requirement to disclose your paid status. You need to do that before you make any other edits. Secondly, even if that text is released from copyright it is not appropriate for Wikipedia, so don't waste your time by investigating how the text can be donated. --bonadea contributions talk 09:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

And a third thing, actually – your signature needs to contain a link to your user page and/or talk page. Your all-caps signature points at User:CECIWRITES, which is not a registered user – links to names are case sensitive. --bonadea contributions talk 10:03, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Ceciwrites: The copyright holder of the website is going to need to be the one to release it under a free license that Wikipedia accepts; however, given that most websites are written in a tone that is too promotional for Wikipedia's purposes, it's highly likely that the content would need to be written for any of it to be considered OK to use on Wikipedia even if it was freely licensed. Generally, Wikipedia editors are expected to summarize in their own words what they read about subjects in reliable sources and then cite those sources in support so that the content can be verified; trying to simply copy-and-paste large blocks of external website content onto any Wikipedia page is almost always not going to be considered OK to do. If you would like to try and create a draft about this person, then you can; you are, however, going to need to demonstrate that they meet Wikipedia:Notability (people) for any draft to have a chance of being accepted as an article. You're also going to need to follow the guidance given in Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. You might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Ownership of content, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing for reference because it sounds like whomever asked you to create this article doesn't really understand how Wikipedia works at all.

Finally, please take a look at Wikipedia:Signature for some information on how to properly "sign" a talk page post. You're signing your posts as [[:User:CECIWRITES|CECIWRITES]], but there is no account registered as User:CECIWRITES. Since you registered for an account as "Ceciwrites" (not "CECIWRITES"), that's the account user name your going to need to use. It might be possible for you customize your signature if you want as explained in here, but your Wikipedia user name is still going to be "Ceciwrites". -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:09, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Noted, thank you so much I appreciate your time and knowledge --Ceciwrites talk 10:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

India article

I saw articles about USA, England and Australia have sub-section for Education and Sports but this India article doesn't have. I suggest to create seperate sub-sections for this. Images used in that article also looks low quality, outdated and do not represent true India, only showing unhygienic, poor side of India. Newton Euro (talk) 10:01, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro: welcome to the Teahouse. The article India does actually have these sub-sections: India#Education and India#Sports and recreation, both of them sub-sections of India#Culture. In the article about Australia, the sub-section Australia#Education is under Australia#Demographics, while Australia#Sport and recreation can be found under Australia#Culture. USA has the same structure as the article about Australia, with education under demographics, and sports under culture, but England has a different structure again, with education and sports as separate sections that are not under culture, nor under demographics. I don't know why the structure of these articles are different, but the sub-sections are there in each of them.

If you want to suggest different images, Talk:India is the place to do that. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 10:54, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bonadea and Bonadea: I think we have to follow England structure. #Education section of India is not well developed and is very short.Newton Euro (talk) 11:08, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Newton Euro, it seems that you had already posted your suggestion to Talk:India when you started this message thread. When you post a suggestion on an article's talk page, there's no need to bring up the matter here as well. -- Hoary (talk) 11:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro keep in mind that there is also an entire article about Education in India. Take care not to "overload" the section with too much detail. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Problems when referring to another Wiki page in this format ... when editing

Hello...

I have been having problems editing a Wiki page in the normal way [[....]] in source editing so that when clicking the highlighted name (in blue), it will lead to the quoted Wiki page.

The edited term instead appears in red.. indicating the page is not yet created/available. However, when I search the term, the page is already there.

Please assist.

Regards. Volten0001 (talk) 09:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Volten0001, and welcome to the Teahouse. You haven't told us which article you are trying to link to, but the usual reason for this is that the case of the letters does not match. The case must match exactly, except for the first letter. Also, any accents, punctuation, spaces etc must match. If you still can't see the problem, copy and post the exact string you are putting between the brackets here and we can look. (I put <nowiki> round your example, so that what you typed would appear.)--ColinFine (talk) 12:41, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Archival of talk page

How do I make a bot automatically archive my talk page, with a spot to see previous archives? The Tips of Apmh 16:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

For help on archiving a talk page, see Help:Archiving a talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:01, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: Thanks, I did it, does it look fine? --The Tips of Apmh 18:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

It seems to have done the trick. I don't know what the problem is with the first section on the page; you may need to archive that manually. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:35, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Long standing citation requests

While reading Wikipedia articles I often come across long standing citation requests and other template warnings. For example, on the Sheffield Steelers page some of the citation needed requests date back to 2007 and the recentism template was placed there in 2009. The article is being updated but 'warnings' ignored. Surely such longstanding 'requests for action' reflect badly on Wikipedia. I have little interest in the subject matter and so wouldn't want to spend time trying to find sources to validate these passages. The talk page looks moribund so I think things are unlikely to be resolved by commenting and seeking a consensus there. The choice for me is to ignore and move on or delete the 'offending' lines and remove the citation needed warning. What are people's views here? Rupples (talk) 15:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Rupples. You raise a very good point. Per WP:V "Any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source". If it has been a while and there have been no constructive suggestions on the talk page, I suggest you remove one statement at a time, and see whether other editors swing into action with some references.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Can I upload photos without it going to Wikipedia commons

I want to upload a photo with a Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0) license but in order to upload to Wikipedia it has to go to Wikipedia commons, is there a way for it to not go to Wikipedia Commons? I also have found a source I want to use but I'm not quite sure if it's reliable https://www.sealifebase.ca/summary/Labidiaster-radiosus.html. commons? Maomaoox (talk) 16:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Maomaoox The CC BY-NC licence is not acceptable on Wikipedia, it has to be CC BY-SA. The Sealifebase source looks good, you can also try the IUCN website. A Google Scholar search could also be productive. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:45, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much Dodger67. Thanks for the tip on google scholar and sea life base, google scholar provides way more information on subjects and I was not aware of it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention

Not enough sources?

A writer friend of mine recently attempted to start a Wiki article about me. I am a musician and although I am mentioned in other people’s pages, there is no entry for me personally. There are a number of stories and interviews in newspapers about me (both physical and virtual ones), plus of course anything can be verified by checking websites of artists, album liner notes, or seeing me perform with various famous people on YouTube etc etc. Seems to be fairly easily verifiable stuff, yet he got the message that “there were not enough verifiable sources “. He added a few more (does Wiki accept its OWN pages as verifiable sources?) and then got a message that maybe it’s “under review” or something to that effect. So it has been neither accepted nor rejected at this point. Not sure what to do from here. Appreciate anyone that can shed some light on this or suggest what to do now. Just wait? Or have yet another person that knows me write another article? I saw other people being asked what their name is on here so maybe I should put my name. It’s Jay Collins. Thanks. Jaybird1968 (talk) 15:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Jaybird1968, and welcome to the Teahouse. Because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia (rather than social media, or a business directory) we require that articles be almost entirely based on what has been published in reliable sources unconnected with the subject. This means that in order for an article about you to be possible, several people, wholly unconnected with you and not fed information by or on behalf of you, must have chosen to write at some length about you and been published in places with a reputation for fact-checking and editorial control. This means that nothing published by you or your associates, nothing in user-generated sources such as blogs, social media, or wikis (including Wikipedia!) and nothing primarily based on your words - interviews or press releases - can contribute to this. Most artists, even professional ones, do not meet these criteria, and we therefore do not have articles about them, even if they are mentioned in other articles. (I am mentioned in an article, because I once did something remarkable, but not enough has been written about me to ground an article about me). If you or your friend can find sources to establish that you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability (essentially what I explained above) then there can be an article about you. Your friend is discouraged from writing it, because of their conflict of interest, and also because writing an article is a very challenging task for a new Wikipedia editor (even if they have experience as a writer) and I always advise spending a few months learning the trade by editing existing articles first. But if you do meet the criteria, then your friend may create a draft - see your first article. If you do not, they will be wasting their time trying. --ColinFine (talk) 16:24, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Jay Collins (musician) - this seems to be the relevant draft. Alerting its creator, WoodieAlan, who - based on their user name and contributions - may also have a COI with Alan Paul (author). Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 16:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Ranveer Singh - Indian

Ranveer Singh did dubbing for Deadpool 2 but their is no mention about it on this article. I think a seperate sub-sections have to be made for his dubbing work or add it in filmography by making a table. ^[1] Newton Euro (talk) 18:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

The place to discuss improvements to an article is at the article's talk page - in this case, Talk:Ranveer Singh. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

References

^ https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/movies/celebrities/story/ranveer-singh-reveals-the-real-reason-behind-dubbing-for-deadpool-2-1235815-2018-05-18

Page doesn't exist?

Hello, about 5 months ago I wrote a Wikipedia article on Joanna Langfield, who is a well known movie critic having been on the radio for nearly 40 years now. She's also my mother. Unfortunately the article still has not been published and am not sure why.

Whenever I click on the link through my account, it says the page does not exist.

I admitted the conflict of interest, I'm obviously doing this for free and made sure everything was linked and uploaded pictures to show that everything that was written is true.

Is there anything more I can do to make sure the page gets published?

Thank you. GregWikiMake (talk) 17:16, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Joanna Langfield has not yet been submitted for review. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:21, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

GregWikiMake, if you want to submit it, you need to click on the blue button at the bottom of the box above the text of your draft. Deor (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I'd also recommend doing a quick clean-up to avoid such words as "legendary" (relating to the radio personalities with whom she worked); the new article reviewers tend to be very sensitive about anything that might look promortional. Thank you for declaring your CoI properly. Elemimele (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you both! Now is there a way I can get it reviewed quicker? : ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregWikiMake (talk • contribs) 18:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@GregWikiMake I was about to mention "Improving your odds of a speedy review" but it seems you saw that already. Making sure your article follows WP:BLP (if you can't ref it, don't add it) and meets the demands at WP:BASIC will help. Also, in a WP-article, call her "Langdon" in the running text, not "Joanna". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:21, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

I just wanted to say thank you for the invitation! This will be very helpful. Mkwal914 (talk) 19:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mkwal914: Welcome to the teahouse, a place to ask questions. We are thankful you're here, any further questions? Severestorm28 (talk) 19:15, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Any way to enable navigation popups across wikis?

Moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) § Any way to enable navigation popups across wikis?

Hi all, does anyone know if it's possible to enable navigation popups across wikis, without having to go into the preferences? I often go to other projects chasing LTA socks, and it's quite a pain that I have to enable popups on all those wikis. I once tried adding the following to m:Special:MyPage/global.js but it didn't work.

// Navigation popups on all wikis (?)
importScriptURI('http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');

I would appreciate any help. Dragoniez (talk) 19:22, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Dragoniez Tea House is for newer editors, I think WP:Village Pump (Technical) would be a better place to ask! Am curious what the answer is tho, happy navigating! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:24, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah Oh right, thanks Shushugah, will post on VPT. --Dragoniez (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

De-orphaning a Wikipedia page by linking to another page

I am trying to de-orphan Wikipedia page Walter Boardman Kerr by linking it to another Wikipedia page, Philips Academy, where WBK is listed by name on a list of notable alumni. I clicked on the link button in my sandbox thinking that would do it, filled out the info on the form, then submitted, but apparently I need to do something else. Can you assist me? Thanks. Trail972 (talk) 18:23, 4 December 2021 (UTC) Trail972 (talk) 18:23, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Phillips Academy

Courtesy link: Walter Boardman Kerr

Welcome to the Teahouse Trail972! Kerr's name already appears to be linked on the Academy page, but no one has removed the orphan template from his own article. As for how it's done, you would edit the source of the page in question and add two square brackets on either side of the name (in source editing mode; Visual Editor is likely different). Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:38, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

The orphan template has now been removed by User:Theroadislong. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much for responding. How do I remove the orphan template from the Kerr article? Also, I have a Library of Congress photo of Kerr to insert on his page. When I click on the images button in sandbox, it asks me to give a Filename. Would that be the Library of Congress Digital Id or Control Number? Not sure what dialog box is asking for. Trail972 (talk) 18:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

See above, Trail972 - the template has already been removed by someone who read your post here. If you have a photo for the page that is appropriately licensed, it will need to be uploaded either to Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons. It will then be assigned a filename, etc. Commons is the preferred place for a number of reasons, but they can't host non-free files. What is the copyright status of the image you want to use? Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

If it's this one, I don't think we can use it, but I'm not well-versed in the labyrinth of copyright law. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 19:12, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it's that one. Library of Congress doesn't think Acme Photo registered a copyright on it, but it would take some research to find out for sure. Part of New York World photograph collection given to the LOC.Trail972 (talk) 20:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

There's already a picture in the article, but I see that it's been nominated for deletion on Commons because there are doubts about its copyright status; I don't know what the outcome will be. Copyright is a very serious issue around here, and in the absence of good evidence to the contrary, our default assumption is that a work is indeed under copyright. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 20:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Donation card compromised

This is not a question, but for your information. Within 12 hours of making my $11.00 donation on 12/02/2021, the credit card I used was attempted to be used fraudulently. You may have been hacked. I do not have an account with you, but my email is (Redacted) if you wish to contact me. i think i supplied it as part of the donation. The donation cleared successfully, so that is not a problem. 2600:6C54:7500:CE4:25A7:E2D3:4725:2A30 (talk) 21:56, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Contact donate[at]wikimedia.org. We cannot do anything about this here. I have redacted your email address for your protection. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:57, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Are podcasts acceptable as a source?

Can we use podcasts as a citation/source? Prodjex (talk) 19:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Prodjex welcome to Tea House and thank you for your question! In short, yes under very narrow circumstances. Either because the podcast is scholarly in itself, for example in a neutral, scholarly tone or because the individuals speaking on it are subject experts themselves, per WP:SELFPUBLISH. Happy editing and 'casting! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah thank you very much for your response, I appreciate the information. If I were using the podcast source to quote the owner of a company or principal of a school, would that be within the acceptable circumstance? Sorry, I should have been more specific in my initial question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prodjex (talk • contribs) 22:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, Prodjex, those would come under WP:SELFPUBLISH as Shushugah said, so you could cite them but only for the limited kinds of information explained there. This is assuming that the podcast was by the speaker or somebody associated with them. Otherwise, it would need to be a reliable source, i.e. published by somebody with a reputation for fact-checking abd editorial control to be considered at all. --ColinFine (talk) 22:38, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I am writing my first submission

...and have had my article reviewed by Ivork. I would like to know how to cite sources. Much of the information contained in the submission is verifiable and can be attributed to newspaper articles of press releases. Essentially what characters inline relate to sources for specific content? I am continuing to read best practices and help pages too. Best, Rush Owen Rush Owen (talk) 19:35, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Rush Owen. The editing tool you use has a big Cite button which you use to bring up a template to enter your citation details. Full details can be found at WP:REFBEGIN. Pop back if you need further help. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Your sandbox draft gives me the feeling you’ve written it as an autobiography, or that you personally know this individual. If that’s the case, please read WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:19, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Nick, Rush Owen, and I would further point out that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. For almost every single statement in your draft you need to ask, Where has somebody unconnected with Hatch published this information? If the answer is "nowhere", then it doesn't belong in any Wikipedia article. The exceptions are uncontroversial factual information like dates and places, where self-published sources connected with Hatch are acceptable. But no information should be in the article unless it has been published somewhere.

My suggestion (which I regularly give to new editors who attempt the very difficult task of creating a new article) would be to put Hatch aside for a few months while you "learn the trade" of editing Wikipedia, and how articles are shaped, by improving some of our six million existing articles. --ColinFine (talk) 22:47, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Help with my page on the butterfly animal

Hello can anyone help me with my page on the butterfly animal. It’s an extinct arthropod from Silurian Waukesha. However there are no scientific studies done on it, and I don’t know the order or family it belongs to, so trying to create a taxonomic box is a pain in the butt. Again please help if anyone can.Fossiladder13 (talk) 18:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Fossladder13, and welcome to the teahouse. I'd recommend checking out WikiProject Arthropods, who would be able to help with this better. Do you know the scientific name of the species/genus you're describing? TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 18:39, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

No I don’t, the animal has not had a scientific description done on it yet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fossiladder13 (talk • contribs)

Courtesy link: Draft:Butterfly Animal (Fossil) I added a courtesy link so people know what you're talking about. Looks like someone added a template now. Happy editing and please remember to sign all of your posts! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

My butterfly animal page being finished

(Amalgamating separate sections for the same topic.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok so my page on the butterfly animal is done, how do I get it out of draftspace and onto actual Wikipedia, or can someone do it for me please

Fossiladder13 (talk) 21:45, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
@Fossiladder13: I have added a draft template to your draft, which gives you a blue button at the bottom right corner of the draft box (very obvious at the start of the article), which you can click to submit it. I would recommend that you make a few edits first, such as substituting "unusual" for "weird". Good luck! Elemimele (talk) 22:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Fossiladder13: This is not a formal review. I have taken a glance at the article, and would suggest it needs some careful proof-reading and copy-editing. If I get some time in the next couple of days I might try to do some. If I do, my edit summaries will explain the reason. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Expand the article use of non-free image

Hello is it possible to expand the use of the non-free picture in Tigist Shibabaw in another article for example Amhara people, for a (Amharic) music section there? Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 22:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC) Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 22:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

You would need to come up with a convincing fair-use rationale that covers that article, as well as meeting all other requirements of WP:NFCC. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 22:27, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jéské Couriano: in a similar fashion as the literature section [[9]], i would like to create a music section with different Amharic musicians of different era's, i would like to keep it balanced 50/50 men/women ratio and preferably with more established female names, as you can see here i have some difficulties here, one is not very notable and another is average. I have considered uploading non-free images of prominent deceased performers Asnaketch Worku & Bizunesh Bekele, but if i can't use it for the purpose of the music section(Amharic music), then i might upload it at a later for their own articles. Strange enough other established and alive names don't have pictures even though there are just as many articles as their male counterparts. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

And Tigist Shibabaw sings in Amharic, in a hip-hop/funk genre which she represent. Others are traditional Amharic folk musicians, Ethio-jazz & blues musicians, Amharic pop etc. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 23:05, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I believe the answer is no, because it fails WP:NFCC#1, as there are free equivalent images (of other relevant people). Joseph2302 (talk) 23:58, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Improving Page / Vestwell

Hello - looking for suggestions on how to improve this page. All sources are external from the brand at the moment, do I need more? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vestwell Epcomms (talk) 18:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Epcomms welcome to Tea House! The current links are not very high quality nor independent of the source, for example MadeInNYC is explicitly a promotional link. Please carefully read through WP:RS and WP:NORG. Fewer, but much much higher quality links would help this article. I do not wish to be contacted for follow up questions about this specific article though. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Epcomms: The draft also needs a lead section. You could create a new section, or remove the "History" section header to create a lead. GoingBatty (talk) 03:27, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I need a Wikipedia mentor

i need a Wikipedia mentor. i'm new Wikipedia volunteer member. Md Nahid Islam Sumon (talk) 04:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Md Nahid Islam Sumon, this draft suggests that you have to (i) recognize promotional material when you see it, (ii) avoid using it, and (iii) avoid recycling its language (unless perhaps you are directly quoting a reliable and of course disinterested source): "successfully", "leading", "important pillar", "global", "enhance", "key driver", etc. No "mentor" can help much with this. -- Hoary (talk) 06:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Md Nahid Islam Sumon, begin by reading and understanding the Neutral point of view, and then read and understand Wikipedia's Five pillars. Let us know if you have any questions after reading those items. Cullen328 (talk) 07:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

How to undo 2 or more edits?

--Spotanus (talk) 08:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Spotanus, welcome to the Teahouse! You can revert them by using Twinkle or RedWarn tool. Thank you. --Richard Michael William (talk) 08:15, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks --Spotanus (talk) 08:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Spotanus. There are several possible techniques. I do not use semi-automated tools because I want to give careful human thought to every one of my edits. The one that I use most commonly is to look at "View history" tab on the article. Find the last proper version before improper edits and click on the date and time. This should bring up the version that you want to restore. Check it out and if it is OK, save it with an edit summary like "Restore to version before (vandalism) (disruptive editing) (copyright violation)" or whatever is most accurate. Cullen328 (talk) 08:28, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

👍 --Spotanus (talk) 08:31, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Not able to create table

In Ashok Saraf, I tried to add a wikitable in visual editing mode but I'm not able to that, whenever I tried to click on a cell in a row it is just blinking one time but cursor not appearing in cell. I am using android for editing. Newton Euro (talk) 18:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro: I don't know why that's happening to you, but to be honest, editing Wikipedia on mobile is very hard and not worth the effort. I suggest keeping your editing activities on a computer instead. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 08:35, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

to start my new page

Tandelsachin (talk) 12:14, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

If it would be about you, a friend, a relative, or your employer, please don't. If it would be about something else, please read Help:Your first article. -- Hoary (talk) 12:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Inserting Image Problem

Hi and hello, im new here in wiki and im inserting a picture. File: Drawing.png . How to fix it? --Lil Moon Teddy (talk) 10:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC) Lil Moon Teddy (talk) 10:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Lil Moon Teddy welcome to Tea House! You’ll need to make wrap it double brackets just like a Wiki link. [[File:Drawing.png]] Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:17, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thank you so much! Lil Moon Teddy (talk) 12:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Lil Moon Teddy, you may only upload freely licensed works. And when using existing freely licensed works, you have to respect the license terms which typically require attribution and sometimes to release your derivative work using the same license.

I don't know where the character from File:Drawing UwU.png comes from but https://www.deviantart.com/freypagani/art/Three-Fixes-cartoons-in-reality-891396671 features the same background so I doubt you created it. This is considered a copyright violation as there is no evidence that the elements are freely licensed.

File:Forest.jpng.jpg is a copy of File:Beilstein-Maad - Schmidbachtal mit altem Feldweg am Nonnenwald im November.jpg with some filters applied but doesn't provide attribution for the original. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:30, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Lil Moon Teddy: Probably you'll find some useful information at Wikipedia:Images. --CiaPan (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Bots and Bare links

Is the citation bot working properly and as often as it should be? Why doesn't it automatically convert bare links (Special:Diff/1052671329) into the sophisticated coding language of Wiki? I've seen the Anomie bot automatically working after me, but the Citation bot is not being as active and helpful to beginners. Nolicamaca (talk) 13:46, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

How can I ask a question

Emma OSOLU (talk) 17:10, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Emma OSOLU Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I think that you just did ask a question, so you did fine. The one suggestion I would have is to place your question in the larger edit window, not the smaller section header window. Some people find it easier to use the full desktop version of Wikipedia, even in a browser on a device, instead of the app or mobile versions, which do not have full functionality(easily, at least). 331dot (talk) 17:14, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

https://www.dontasktoask.com Gallomimia (talk) 18:40, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

You press Ask a question, write a short title, explain your question in more detail.LebronRJames (talk) 14:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Mistake in article

In this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recipients_of_the_Order_of_Jamaica

One of the listed persons is Peter Moses. The name is linked to a Nigerian footballer. This is the wrong Peter Moses.

This is the correct Peter Moses: https://www.firstglobal-bank.com/Team/PeterMoses

Can someone please correct?

Thanks 217.247.177.57 (talk) 15:36, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP! Someone was wrong on the internet, and now's your chance to be WP:BOLD and fix it directly yourself! In the case that a wikipedia article doesn't exist for someone, you could either remove the wikilink, or make a WP:REDLINK to something like Peter Moses (banker). Happy editing and fixing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:02, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I actually just fixed it – there is no article about the banking executive, so I changed the wikilink to point to the not-yet-existing article Peter Moses (bank manager). Removing the wikilink did not seem to be a good solution since all other entries in that list are wikilinked, whether there is an article about the person or not. --bonadea contributions talk 16:08, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

How do you correctly format a collage for an article

Hi all, I have plans for a collage to make but want to know. If you make a collage off Wiki and use Commons photos. When formatting correctly. What must be done. As I have had issues before with formatting collages correctly and would like to know how you correctly make one, which way clockwise must you start and how do you properly link common photos and authors to avoid copyright concerns? Cheers DragonofBatley (talk) 16:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC) DragonofBatley (talk) 16:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi! You should read Collage tips. WhoAteMyButter (📨_talk│📝^contribs) 16:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Copyright violation

So i was writing a draft article draft:Labidiaster radiosus and it has been rejected for copyright violation. What is the copyright violation here? is it because my words are very similar to the source? Maomaoox (talk) 16:20, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that looks to be the case, Maomaoox. Do you know about a tool called Earwig's Copyvio Detector? You can use it to compare your source(s) (if freely available online) with the draft you've written to see where the similarities are, and then work on reducing them. I don't know of any specific "good enough" percentage, but if you can get the similarity below 10%, you're probably safe. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 16:53, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Uploading a YouTube video

Hi everyone,
I would like to upload these public domain videos from YouTube to Commons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Xky6tlFyY and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOb_10JCkI. I tried using the upload wizard, but with no luck. Any help is appreciated. Interstellarity (talk) 15:40, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Interstellarity welcome to Tea House! I cannot see where it's freely licensed (the NASA video is likely PD, but is the music in it?) but that aside, that's a question for Wikimedia Commons, not English wikipedia. See c:Commons:YouTube files for tips on format/downloading etc.. and you can tag {{help me}} inside your Commons talk page. Hope you find a solution! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I will ask on Commons. Interstellarity (talk) 18:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I want to talk to Mad Jim Bey

Beninformed (talk) 19:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Beninformed, you can do so on his talk page. Maproom (talk) 19:53, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

wennberg

80.216.214.12 (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Did you have a question? ThadeusOfNazereth^{Talk to Me!} 21:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Why my draft about Shoxrux Hamdamov were declined??

Hello. Can I ask you? is there any person who can help me to publish my article which - I’ve wrote about the Uzbek actor Shoxrux Hamdamov. It’s declined by you. It’s still as a draft.I am the new user of Wikipedia. I want to know what was my mistake. I want to share a full of information about him at Wikipedia. If I can’t publish- is there anyone who can help us to publish the page about him? We can pay. Or maybe there is any company that publish biographies about actors? Or some authors? We have got all information, youtube pages, a lot of movies links web pages about him only we don’t have any information in Wikipedia. We want to share and open a Wikipedia page for him. Please Let me Know? Or maybe you will help me? Can you contact me? Or give me your email GJAHANA (talk) 17:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@GJAHANA, there is nobody you can pay to have an article published. As stated in the review of your article, it was denied because it doesn't use reliable sources - Almost all of the sources are YouTube videos. Please review WP:RS, which explains the types of sources allowed. ThadeusOfNazereth^{Talk to Me!} 17:56, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Shoxrux Hamdamov Karenthewriter (talk) 19:16, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

In addition, as you state "I am his manager" above, you have a clear Conflict of interest and need to issue a Paid-contribution disclosure before making any more edits to Wikipedia - Arjayay (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

GJAHANA you may be interested in Uzbek Wikipedia. It might be easier to get a Shoxrux Hamdamov article published in a Wikipedia language read by those who may be more familiar with the actor. The reference qualifications could be different, or you may find volunteers able to help improve the article. Wikipedia volunteers work on articles that interest them, and I suspect it may be difficult to find someone willing to do volunteer labor for an actor they are not familiar with. Karenthewriter (talk) 20:53, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, GJAHANA. Like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. It may not be used for promotion of any kind. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If at some point we have an article about Hamdamov, the article will not belong to or be controlled by him or you, and it will not be for his benefit except by accident. --ColinFine (talk) 22:33, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Converting to an RfC

I have experience starting RfC's, but what procedure is required to convert an existing discussion? Talk:Oxford High School shooting#Names of victims is already setup in the right !vote/discussion layout, but obviously the heading and first posts wouldn't pass. Does a new thread need to be started altogether? --GoneIn60 (talk) 22:33, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

How do I change the name of my page?/Changing Name of Page

DVCeditor (talk) 00:34, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

FYI

– Combined duplicate queries. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 00:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

How do I change the name of my Wikipedia page? DVCeditor (talk) 00:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, DVCeditor. You've created an account, but so far it doesn't look like you've created any pages, though another editor has welcomed you on your talk page. Can you be more specific about what you're looking to do? Do you want to rename your account? Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 00:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Edits

Why were my edits changed in this article? [10] 73.167.238.120 (talk) 18:44, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

My guess is, because you added information (a victim's age) without citing a source. But that information is in at least one of the sources cited at the end of the following sentence. Maybe Bkatcher, who reverted your edits, can clarify. Maproom (talk) 19:43, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, there are multiple sources already in the article. Thank you for your feedback! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 19:48, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

It's not that you're adding the victim's age, it's that you're adding the word 'age', which is not needed in this situation. Bkatcher (talk) 23:09, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I do not see that I added the word 'age', but instead took 'age' out twice. 73.167.238.120 (talk) 01:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Help PLEASE

I am freaking out. I just spent more than an hour creating a page: Dr Vincent Covello. I previewed it many times then published it. Now I cannot find it! Q: Is there a lag time to SEE it published? Maybe that is why I am NOT seeing it? Please advise. Also, I uploaded two images that Dr. Covello has permission to use (they are his) and yet they could NOT be uploaded. WHY? Thank you! Dr Vincent Covello (talk) 02:26, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello Dr Vincent Covello and welcome to the Teahouse. First off, this account has no listed contributions except your post here and to your talk page. Are you sure you were logged in while making these changes? Second, if you are not actually Dr Vincent Covello, you should not be using his name as the name of your account; you can either request a new name or drop this account entirely in favor of a new one. Third, I'm not sure what you mean by "they are his" pictures - did he take them? If not, did the photographer legally transfer the copyright to him? In any case, since you do not own the copyright, you can't upload them. Only the copyright holder can do that. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 02:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence that an article titled "Dr Vincent Covello" or "Vincent Covello" was ever published. So you're doing something wrong I think? But I'm not sure what. Did you get any kind of error messages?

For the uploading of files, sometimes there's a field that you forgot to fill in? It won't upload if you don't. More info on what exactly kind of error message you are getting would help.

If you are Vincent Covello and are writing about yourself, I wouldn't. Basically it is conflict-of-interest (see WP:COI). It's not absolutely disallowed, but as a practical matter the article will very likely be deleted right off and everyone's time is waste. We are wary of self-promotion and autobiographical articles can tend hagiographic. You can try WP:articles for creation maybe.

Perhaps some articles on another subject would give you useful experience? The large city of Calabar could use more articles on its public spaces and institutions, for instance. Herostratus (talk) 02:56, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Help please

I added info about Woody and cosplay in the Woody (Toy Story) article in the section impact, and its not appearing and now it says error on the screen does anyone know how to fix this? ― Kaleeb18^Talk 02:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

It's fixed, Kaleeb18. The ref for the previous sentence was missing a closing tag, so when you finally added a closing tag at the end of your edit, everything in-between vanished. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 02:55, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! ― Kaleeb18^Talk 02:57, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Accessing the visual editor

When i edit anything (article, talk page etc, it is all in Wikitext. This is a matter of trial and error to learn. How do i access the simpler visual system? The links when i search dont seem to help. John Keller (talk) 23:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

John Keller, have you tried following the steps outlined here? Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 00:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

No, just one edit tab "edit source" and in preferences no option changed when I unchecked "Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta" John Keller (talk) 01:15, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@John Keller: The visual editor is only available in certain namespaces, like Main (articlespace) and User. Namespaces like Talk don't support it (though there is a way to force it to work in those spaces). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:29, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Just say no

John Keller, the visual editor is indeed simpler -- until you realize that no it isn't. I recommend that you try again to edit the "source" (or "Wikitext"). Using it to create tables is a pain. For anything else, it's easy. Hit your Enter key twice in order to start a new paragraph. Never start a new line with one or more spaces. Two apostrophes immediately before and immediately after anything that should be italicized. Two equals signs immediately before and immediately after a heading of highest importance (such as "Accessing the visual editor", above), three of them for a heading of less importance (such as "Just say no", above). Doubled square brackets around a link. Oh, and references. These are of supreme importance, but I suggest that you spend a little time reworking existing prose, and only then add new material, of course with references. That's about it. There is a little more, but you'll pick it up as you go along. -- Hoary (talk) 01:44, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much. That's what I needed. I think my browser doesn't support the visual editor. John Keller (talk) 02:47, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@John Keller: If you're using the source editor, you may be intersted in Help:Cheatsheet. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I, too, endorse the use of the source editor. It is criticized as being old fashioned and difficult to use. Yes, it is old but old is not necessarily bad. Although I have been using personal computers since the late 1970s, I have never been a professional programmer. I am a "learn as I go" guy and I had no problem learning wikitext or wikicode or whatever you want to call it. It is logical, intuitive and not at all difficult for people with an open mind and a willingness to learn. Cullen328 (talk) 08:41, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@John Keller Are you aware that you can set your own individual Preferences for which of the two editing tools you are offered? Use the Preferences link at the very top of the page. In the 'Editing' tab look for 'Editing mode' and select Show me both editor tabs from the dropdown option box, then hit Save at the bottom of the page. Like many others, I only really use Visual Editor for entering information into tables, and stick to WP:Source Editor for everything else. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:46, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@talk Thanks! I found the option to show both editing modes now. And I notice that for some wikiplaces (like here) only the edit source is available. I am getting used to it. John Keller (talk) 03:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Content Translation

I was thinking around what I would do, then I found the Content Translation tool. I translated a Spanish article and it is here. What is to be done next?? Any suggestions.. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 04:35, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Itcouldbepossible. There are a very large number of redlinks in this article, which may lead experienced editors to ask "what the heck is going on here"? Trim them way back. This biography of a living person has only a single reference, whose reliability I cannot fully evaluate because I am not fluent in Spanish. I do, however, know that the expectation is that there will be multiple references to reliable, independent sources devoting significant coverage to a person before an article like this can be considered a acceptable. So, trim the redlinks and improve the references. Translations are welcomed but it is your responsibility as a translator to ensure that your translation complies with the same policies and guidelines thst all other articles are expected to comply with. Cullen328 (talk) 04:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @Cullen328 for your helping hand. I removed the redlinks. But for the references you may go [11] here and see that the spanish article also has only one reference. Well I know that living biographies cannot have only one reference, but to say the truth, that article has one reference in the spanish wikipedia, so where should I find more references. Please guide me in this prospect. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 05:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Cullen328 I made a request to their Teahouse (see this[12]), seeking help for finding resources. Hope they help. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 05:43, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Also, you shouldn't just dump google translations on here. Machine translations are often unreliable and in this case the sentences don't even read correctly. If you don't know the other language to verify the content and make the necessary modifications, you shouldn't do it. —SpacemanSpiff 05:47, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Itcouldbepossible. The fact that the es-wiki article is under-referenced is a problem for es-wiki. We too have thousands and thousands and thousands of articles which are seriously substandard, and would not be acceptable today; but few people are interested in spending the time to improve or delete them, so they remain. We do not now accept new articles into English Wikipedia unless they meet our current standards, irrespective of whether they are entirely new or a translation. --ColinFine (talk) 09:54, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine Thanks, actually I did not know these things, so I started translating the page. So then the article would be a complete waste of work. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 10:09, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Itcouldbepossible: the thing to do is to look at the original article and its subject, and decide if it looks genuinely notable. If so, hunt out some sources. It's not a waste of work, but you need to make sure that the translation is a genuinely good article, in good writing, with good sources, and not just a google-translate of an article that was probably inadequate in the Spanish WP. Someone wise here advised me that translations don't have to be exact. You can use as much or as little of the other WP article as you want (though of course follow the instructions on translation and credit it!) - so if you can find some sources that back up part of what the Spanish article says, while other bits look wobbly, just translate and use the good stuff. Elemimele (talk) 11:19, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes – and it is also worth stressing that the tool is called "content translation", so it is intended to help editors get some idea of the content (facts), while the form (vocabulary, phrasing, syntax) needs to be created by the editor without trusting the tool. --bonadea contributions talk 14:53, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Itcouldbepossible have you gone through the short training tutorial Wikipedia Adventure? It may also help to read Introduction and Your First Article. Your attempt at translating a Spanish article wasn't a waste of time if you learned from it. I've been a Wikipedia editor since 2007 and I'm still learning. That learning is often by trying something that didn't work, and then figuring out what I did wrong, so that I'll do it correctly the next time. Best wishes on your work on Wikipedia. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter Yes @Amkgp left the link to Wikipedia Adventure on my talk page. But I cannot do it?? I don't know what problem, I am encountering. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 03:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Itcouldbepossible I don't know what equipment you're using (computer, electronic tablet, cell phone), but I am using an outdated Mac laptop, and this is how things work for me. A few minutes ago I clicked on the Wikipedia Adventure link. When that link came up, I went to the bottom of the page and clicked on Mission 1. A white box came up, I read what's in the box, then clicked on the blue box titled "Get Equipment for the trip". That brought up another white box. I read that box, and clicked on the new blue box titled "Come with me..."

Since I've already gone through The Wikipedia Adventure I didn't go any further tonight. There will be different projects to try, such as editing and adding citations. I believe when I finished Mission 1 I went back to the beginning page, and then clicked on Mission 2. I read white boxes, and clicked on blue boxes, just as I did for the first mission. Did you click on Mission 1? If so, what happened when you did? Perhaps if you are having some difficulty with the English language you may not be understanding all of the instructions written in the white boxes. You may want to try again on another day, and then be able to go through the different missions. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:29, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter Ok thanks for the help. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 04:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter At a point of time, an instruction comes and says "click edit source" to add the content. After clicking edit source, and adding the content, nothing happens. It continues to give the same instructions. Can anyone tell me where I am going wrong?? Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 07:41, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Itcouldbepossible where are you in the tutorial? Are you on Mission 1, Mission 2? Are you at the beginning, middle or end of that mission? When I have the time I will go to that part of the instructions and tell you what I did, but I need to know where you are having the problem.

I ask a favor of you. When you are asking for my help please only add one question mark (?) at the end of a sentence. Though you couldn't know this, sloppy punctuation annoys me. Karenthewriter (talk) 14:43, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter Sorry, it is my bad habit to add many "?" at the end of my question. Yes, you taught me a new thing. And talking about the Wikipedia Adventure, I am at mission 1, and am having problems, when they instruct me to "click edit source", and even if I add the things they want, they don't give any further instruction. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 03:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Itcouldbepossible the lessons must be old, written before some things were changed. I was confused about clicking on "edit source", so clicked on "edit" instead. I didn't want to change my own user page, but did what was told (except I didn't link anything), and went back and reverted things afterwards. It did appear that I was asked twice to do the same instructions about bolding, italicizing, etc., but I clicked a second time that it was done, and was sent to the next step. At the end I was told to "save", but that is now called "publish changes" so that's what I clicked on. I was then told "Mission 1 complete!" and there was a blue box saying "Go on to mission 2", but I clicked on an option to take a rest (or some such words) and got out of the Adventure. I would have to click on Wikipedia Adventure again if I wanted to do Mission 2. It is a rather awkward tutorial, and may have a few bugs so that you're asked a second time to do things. I'm sorry that it doesn't work better. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter No, actually they ask me to write something, then when I write it, then nothing else happens. It just says, "click edit source". And thats all. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 06:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Itcouldbepossible I'm sorry, but I'm not able to help you further. Perhaps because I've been editing for so many years I just did what I felt I should do. When asked to "click edit source" I clicked "edit" instead. After writing things I clicked on "publish changes" to save my work. I don't know why you are unable to get further instructions. I'm so very sorry for suggesting that you take the Wikipedia Adventure, for I didn't know it would cause you such problems. Please forgive me for causing you so much grief. I have spent hours trying to help you, and I've only caused confusion. I am not a trained teacher, and can think of no more ideas that may be of use to you. Karenthewriter (talk) 07:10, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Karenthewriter No please don't repent so much. You are so much elder to me in terms of your editing career. Actually the first mission, tells me to create a user page, but I have already created one. So, it is creating trouble. Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 07:39, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Marking for deletion

How do I mark an article for deletion? I would like to mark the page of the Jakarta ePrix for deletion. RemoteMyBeloved (talk) 07:56, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You don't mark it for deletion, RemoteMyBeloved. Rather, you first read Wikipedia:Deletion policy to see if policy requires that it should be deleted. If it does, then you carefully follow the recipe for suggesting deletion that you'll find at Template:AfD in 3 steps. Then other users see if they agree with you that deletion is appropriate. If the consensus is that yes it is, then the article is deleted. (If this sounds horribly complex, yes it is. But practice will speed up your part in the process.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:16, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

SALIM SAAD UHURU

What is wrong with my article for submission Leonahnana (talk) 08:11, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You provide Draft:Salim Saad Uhuru with no references; so for all the reader knows, the whole draft could be mere fiction. Can you cite three sources that discuss the man in depth? If you can't, no article can be produced. -- Hoary (talk) 08:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Deleting incorrect language link to another article

Hello everyone! Upon reading the Land value tax article on the English Wikipedia I opened its link for the Spanish Wikipedia version of the article, but it's about a different, nationally specific topic ES Wikipedia: Impuesto sobre Bienes Inmuebles. I believe there is no article on Land Value Tax in the Spanish Wikipedia. Most of the links of the Spanish Wikipedia article to other languages are to topics about Land Value Tax and not the Spanish (from Spain) Impuesto sobre Bienes Inmuebles. How can you delete all these incorrect links and instead link them to a new article? Thank you for your attention Bljrd (talk) 03:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bljrd: Interlanguage links are handled by Wikidata, Wikipedia's sister project. You can see the Wikidata entry by clicking the "Wikidata item" link on the left sidebar, where you'll find all the Wikipedia articles that link to it on the right, in a box titled "Wikipedia". Wikidata also has a help desk at wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 08:47, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Where to start editing

where should i start editing? Commonwanderer (talk) 09:20, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You've already made plenty of edits, Commonwanderer, to articles about South Korean TV series. Well, a subject about which you have reliable sources which you understand and can cite. If you have reliable sources about South Korean TV series (a subject about which I know nothing whatever), then why not continue there? -- Hoary (talk) 09:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Is there any template that I can use for informing a wiki user that he or she is rampantly uploading derivative work in Wikipedia and in Wikipedia Commons? Thanks. NewManila2000 (talk) 03:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@NewManila2000: What exactly do you mean by derivative works? How much is "rampant"? If you nominate them for deletion via Twinkle, it'll automatically send a template message to the user that uploaded that file. Since template messages are often too broad, consider leaving a more personalized message on that user's talk page, describing in detail the issue at hand. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 08:39, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

As per the article derivative work, it refers to a expressive creation of a work that includes major copyrightable elements of an original, previously created first work (the underlying work) and maybe subjected to copyright. Oh, by the way, I am currently dealing with a wiki user regarding the issue. I inserted the word "rampant" because I had observed that he is still doing it. NewManila2000 (talk) 10:38, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

How can I be reach

How can I be reach Lawrence saitoi (talk) 10:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

On their talk page. Maproom (talk) 13:17, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

PageImages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janssen_COVID-19_vaccine

The page image for the above page is not of the actual vaccine (vial) like with other Covid-19 vaccine pages.

I tried to change the proportions of the image to appease the PageImages extension as outlined in the following pages:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageImages#Image_choice

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)&oldid=866390029#Determination_of_the_image

However the page image is still the generic image of the coronavirus instead of the vaccine.

Is this due to the fact that the picture of the vial is made available under the Creative Commons Public Domain Mark 1.0 and images marked as public domain cannot be used for page images or is there something else I am missing here?

Thank you. Ryebreadforscale (talk) 17:43, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Ryebreadforscale, you puzzle me. (And perhaps the lack of other responses suggests that you puzzle other people here too.) You changed the image from one cropped version to another cropped version of a photo in the public domain. (Both, and many other images, are in this category.) Neither is, or as far as I understand ever was, a "generic image of the coronavirus". Instead, both show what appears to be an actual vial of the stuff. (Are you suggesting that it's instead a mock-up of some kind?) The picture of the vial is indeed "made available under the Creative Commons Public Domain Mark 1.0", in other words, explicitly donated to the public domain. If we ignore a few factors (notably personality rights) that clearly are irrelevant in this case, Wikimedia/Wikipedia can do what it likes with images that are in the public domain. -- Hoary (talk) 23:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I think they're talking about the preview image for Janssen COVID-19 vaccine - when I hover over that link with my mouse, I do indeed get the virus image instead of the vaccine vial. I have no idea what controls that selection, though. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 23:35, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Ryebreadforscale, you might get better answers from the techies over at VP:TECH. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 23:58, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikignome Wintergreen, if you pick "Page information" from the sidebar, it shows you the "Page image", which is indeed the virus. Ryebreadforscale has aready linked the Mediawiki page that explains how that is chosen. --ColinFine (talk) 10:46, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, but I didn't understand the explanation at all, ColinFine. I only play techie in the minor leagues. :D Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 13:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try asking there. Ryebreadforscale (talk) 00:16, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Its beginning to look a lot like CE

I now understand mostly how to go about and fix CE on wikipedia. May i ask one thing, that someone please make me a custom signature to go along with my name? I would quite enjoy it. Presumably grey and red. I hope to continue fixing copy edit and improving Suggestbot articles. Thank you. You'vegotmail27 (talk) 05:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You'vegotmail27, your current signature is just fine. Please continue improving articles: you'll be respected for the work that you do, not for the prettiness of your signature. -- Hoary (talk) 07:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

I shall continue working then. You'vegotmail27 (talk) 14:06, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Question

Why does Wikipedia keep asking me for money when I am definitely not donating as long as MF DOOM keeps being reverted back to “Mf Doom” on his page? 2600:8801:1B84:AE00:D0EF:76C6:2CBE:7308 (talk) 19:47, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

The Wikimedia Foundation makes an annual appeal atound this time to help meet its global running costs. If you create a free account, you will avoid seeing these uappeals. Regarding article name changes, thats an issue that should be held on the article talk page. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:58, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

It has been discussed several times and is in the "Frequently asked questions" box at top of Talk:MF Doom. The consensus to follow most reliable sources and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters is unlikely to change. Donors have no influence on our content. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia just wants $2.75, I have been asked 4 times which can be really annoying.LebronRJames (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Since you have an account, you can disable fundraising banners under Preferences → Banners. Cheers ❖_hugarheimur 14:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Who is the one

5.38.22.136 (talk) 12:47, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

DJ Khaled. --Jayron 32 13:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Neo -Roxy the dog. wooF 13:52, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Please see The One.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen. He was number one! Panini!^🥪 15:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't seem fair

A friend of mine wrote a page about me, but it has a warning for lack of notability. Are there volunteers who can help fix this? I've done a TEDMED talk, written four books and hundreds of articles. Had a segment about me on NPR's This American Life, and much much more, but I'm not notable??? I'm particularly puzzled because there are many people who seem less notable than I, who have pages without warnings -- for example, half my lawyer friends. I'm a lawyer with a Ph.D. in medical ethics -- the first to do a joint program with that combination that I know of and the first Westerner to go to Iran to study their organ selling programs extensively (extensively meaning hundred's of interviews, one anthropologist had done one day of interviews at one hospital). Why do I not qualify -- If the friend who wrote the page for me made mistakes, why doesn't someone help fix them, instead of making me seem like a self-promoting fraud with the warning boxes? Integrity1010 (talk) 19:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Integrity1010 Welcome to the Teahouse. You might care to tell us who you are so that we can look for sources that talk in detail about you. I'm afraid our Notability criteria for people demands to know, not what a person has done in their life, but what others have written about them. You would be welcome to link o a few of those sources so we can try to guide you further. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Based on the description, I'm guessing Sigrid Fry-Revere (which does seem to have a lot of problems by our standards). Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 19:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

This was tagged in Dec 2019, and had had dozens of edits since then. Perhaps Wikignome Wintergreen, a recent editor of the article will consider removing the tag. Neither you nor your friend should remove it (nor edit the article anymore). The article has been criticized for weak referencing and possibly not reaching the bar for notability. David notMD (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I assume the notability standard here is WP:NACADEMIC, but I'm far from an expert in the notability area, and academics seem particularly tricky. I'll leave that decision to someone else, but I'll fix up the article in other ways. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 20:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I've taken a quick look through the article and at some of the citations. I recognise that the article is currently being worked on, but my feeling is that the page comes over as an amazingly impressive CV of a person who has done some wonderful work on her field. I don't see sources that talk about her, as we would expect from independent sources to meet WP:NBIO. The past professorial position itself doesn't quite meet Criterion 5 of WP:NPROF on its own, yet I suspect the body of work she has produced in that and in subsequent roles could be deemed to have had a significant impact under criteria 1 or 7. But as this isn't an WP:AFD discussion, I don't need to go into more detail at this stage, though such a discussion would need further search for independent sources and could be borderline, despite her achievements. That said, I'd not be pushing for such a discussion, and would expect a fair bit of effort to go into WP:BEFORE. I think the notability template was not hugely unreasonable, and hopefully current efforts will help. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

"Borderline notable" - the hardest case to deal with. Basically, Integrity1010, it's hard to make a decision here without doing some significant research, and since we're all volunteers, there's no way to force anyone to do that research. As it stands, the article doesn't contain any good (by our standards) sources which prove beyond doubt that you're notable (by our standards), so the tag - for the moment - remains. If you think you have such sources, the best place for them is probably the article's talk page, Talk:Sigrid Fry-Revere, since this post on the Teahouse will get archived eventually. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 00:55, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Not sure if I'm doing this right, putting my responses here. Yes, I'm Sigrid Fry-Revere. I'm also the first person to create a living organ donor advocacy group which was not run by organ recipients as a hidden way to get more people to become organ donors. My organization -- The American Living Organ Donor Fund actually advocated for living organ donors without any conflict of interest --- we didn't find donors for organ recipients. We helped living organ donors with information and helped them with expenses and lost wages -- something which at the time some people thought was illegal but now is part of the federally funded NLDAC program and many state and private programs as well. How many firsts does a person have to have to qualify as notable? Isn't the fact that I'm cited or quoted on Academia.com at least a few times a week and sometimes several times in a day worth something -- I'm part of a very important conversation -- so much so that people find it necessary to answer what I've written -- not the least of which is the research I did in Iran -- which by the way was accepted as part of the National Library of Medicine's permanent collection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Integrity1010 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I've never edited the page, but I know some friends have tried. I'll tell them not to do so anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Integrity1010 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Integrity1010: If you ever do intend on editing the page take a look at WP:BIO and WP:COI. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Friends can edit as long as 1) declare a conflict of interest on their own User page, and 2) refrain from editing the article directly, but rather post requests on the Talk page of the article. David notMD (talk) 22:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

The most important thing to note is that Wikipedia has a peculiar and specific conception of what notability means. It essentially means that you have "received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." Somewhat different and more specific criteria apply for academics, but that is the basic principle - not having many firsts or doing important work. Zoozaz1 (talk) 01:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

So looking at just the first 7 pages of 148,000 entries for my name on Google, I found the following secondary sources. None of these are articles by me, nor are they simply citations or quotes. They are all more extensive discussions of my work and / or my life. I'm sure I could find at least another dozen more.

That search, that came up with 148,000 was "Sigrid Fry-Revere newspapers" -- because I was looking for articles about me. When I just search "Sigrid Revere" -- I get over a million hits.

Secondary Sources.

Articles that talk about me:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-organ-donor-expenses/new-fund-eases-expenses-for-organ-donors-idUKKBN0L22IP20150129

https://www.ozy.com/news-and-politics/the-country-where-selling-your-organs-is-legit/70282/

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/sigrid-fry-revere/the-kidney-sellers/

https://www.nyjournalofbooks.com/book-review/kidney-sellers-journey-discovery-iran

https://philpeople.org/profiles/hojjat-soofi

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/580/transcript

https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/publications/iranian-kidney-market-in-limbo-a-commentary-on-the-ambiguous-less

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/world/2016/08/25/iran-kidneys-sale/89371302/

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncprheum0649

https://www.yourconroenews.com/neighborhood/moco/opinion/article/A-privatized-world-is-a-better-world-9280334.php

https://www.denverpost.com/2016/08/25/iran-payment-for-kidney-donors/

https://ethiquetransplantation.com/publications/

https://docksci.com/a-closer-look-at-the-iranian-model-of-kidney-transplantation_5a91386ed64ab21d3d54e5a7.html

https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/30/8/1349

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x78dlxh

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifestyle/health-and-wellbeing/250816/a-unique-system-in-iran-is-allowing-payments-for-kidney-donors.html

Research guide mentions my work:

https://www.hivlawandpolicy.org/resources/search-resources?page=11&issue%5B0%5D=154&f%5B0%5D=sm_field_issues%3Anode%3A154

Biography pages: https://peoplepill. com/people/sigrid-fry-revere

https://emu.edu/now/news/2015/bioethicist-and-living-donor-advocate-sigrid-fry-revere-challenges-the-current-organ-donor-system-with-questions-about-why-irans-system-is-more-responsible-and-ethical/

https://it.qiq.wiki/wiki/Sigrid_Fry-Revere

Thanking me for the contributions to his work

file:///Users/AristotlesPride/Downloads/21139-Article%20Text-29835-1-10-20160426%20(1).pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Integrity1010 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Integrity1010 have you read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing? If an article about you is published it won't belong to you or to the friend who wrote it. Anyone with Internet access can find both flattering and unflattering references to you and edit the article. If you are determined to obtain your own Wikipedia article that will likely happen, but if you later decide you are not happy with changes in the article you will not be able to have it deleted.

Please remember that, with the exception of a few paid editors (who are not paid by Wikipedia), most of the people connected with Wikipedia are volunteers who work in their spare time, and choose projects that interest them. If you provide all 148,000 entries on Google that does not mean that anyone will be obligated to improve the draft article about yourself.

If being the subject of a Wikipedia subject is so very important to you I wish you well in having your dream fulfilled. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:20, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Good advice, though in this case it's not a draft - the article was created and moved to mainspace in 2008, when standards were laxer. Now either deleting or improving will take some effort. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 04:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

That was a foolish mistake on my part, to state that the article was still a draft. I became confused by the long list of citations to be added, but I should have double checked the status before posting. Karenthewriter (talk) 08:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you WolfTalkBlaze (See below and above) Do I make that request here -- or in a seperate thread? @Integrity1010: If you ever do intend on editing the page take a look at WP:BIO and WP:COI. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC) Friends can edit as long as 1) declare a conflict of interest on their own User page, and 2) refrain from editing the article directly, but rather post requests on the Talk page of the article. David notMD (talk) 22:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Integrity1010 (talk • contribs)

@Integrity1010: Edit requests should be placed on the Talk page of the article itself. Each article has a Talk page, in this case, Talk:Sigrid Fry-Revere (which I see you have found already.) This information page might be helpful. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 15:08, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Just to add, I think the "doesn't seem fair" part isn't fully elaborated, because no actual comparison has been made, only a review of the singular article. If more review was done to other biographical articles I assume the same standards should apply, but maybe no one has bothered to mark them as such. However, this is all speculation and this is not to say whether or not the article in question meets standards. Symphoricarpos albus (talk) 16:01, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Added header for no-question

Thank you for inviting me here! Geografreak (talk) 16:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome! Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

use of photography

Hello. I have a question on the right to use a photo of mould to apply in my painting with acrylic on canvas. how can i apply for permission from the author of the photo? Can I use other photos on wikipedia for my artwork and do I need to get permission from the authors of the photos? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schimmel-op-tomaat1079.jpg Nadezhda2021 (talk) 15:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nadezhda2021 Welcome to the Teahouse. Thank you for your question. The photographer (User:Algont) is still very active on Dutch Wikipedia, and I'm sure would be incredibly pleased to learn that you are inspired by their image. But they also released the photo under a Creative Commons licence which permits you to creative derivative works under a similar licence, even commercially. (explained here). I am not, however, sure how licencing applies to new artworks simply 'inspired' by an existing image. I imagine that still giving credit to that inspiration would be sufficient, but I am not qualified to give legal advice. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

I can’t use web pages like YouTube channels? For my reference?

Hello, can’t I use YouTube my personal channels or another YouTube channels for my article? Like if the article is about actor - I wanted to share his film as a webpage in the reference ,? So Wikipedia declined my article. Because I have use YouTube?? GJAHANA (talk) 04:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You should read WP:YOUTUBE. WhoAteMyButter (📨_talk│📝^contribs) 04:54, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) hi GJAHANA! generally you cannot use a youtube page as a reference to establish notability as these require to be independent of the subject in question. however it may be possible to use an official site as a external link instead of a reference, placed in the external links section. happy editing! melecie t - 04:56, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@GJAHANA: I suggest you read Help:Your first article if you haven't done so already, and be sure to disclose your conflict of interest on your user page. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

How do I start a new page on Wikipedia?

I want to start a new entry on Wikipedia for a bio on someone. When I go to the article wizard, all I get is a blank page. It expects me to write in some sort of computer based language, of which I have no knowledge. I do not see the wizard to prompt me through the various steps of the bio like a template. Please can someone assist me. Mysky2blue (talk) 10:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Mysky2blue, and welcome to the Teahouse and Wikipedia. There is no template in that sense - structuring the page is the easy part of writing an article. The difficult and much much much more important part is finding the independent sources, and accurately summarising what those sources say. You can find more information in my first article. I always advise new editors who try to plunge straight in to the extremely difficult task of creating a Wikipedia article to put that idea aside for a few months, and learn how Wikipedia works by improving some of our six million existing articles. Doing that is likely to save you much frustration and possibly some wasted work. --ColinFine (talk) 11:00, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

The language is called wikitext, and basic formatting is not all that hard (see Help:Cheatsheet), but you can use the visual editor as well. Kleinpecan (talk) 11:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

thank you very much, Colin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.132.134.49 (talk) 11:29, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mysky2blue: Welcome to the Teahouse! In the future, please post your question to the Teahouse OR the Help desk, but please do not post the same question to both places at the same time. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:44, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

improving an article under review

Hi, my draft of the Children's Media Conference page was rejected for 'not being written in the formal style expected of an encyclopaedia article'. Could anyone give me any pointers on how I might improve this? I thought I wrote it in a neutral tone and included sufficient independent references. This is my first article - any advice appreciated! Here is the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Children%27s_Media_Conference Thanks Evadne elenchan (talk) 11:39, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Evadne elenchan Welcome to Tea House! While most of the sources are technically external to the NGO, the language and content is still very promotional, for example this testimony:

Our theme this year was very much inspired by the challenges set by our young Changemakers last July. They demanded action from us on climate change, diversity in the industry, enabling the voices of young people and understanding the changing ways in which they’re accessing their media choices. The theme reflects the rapid change in the kids’ content business landscape.

Additionally, the excessively detailed rundown of participants at every year's conference, doesn't given me a sense of what Children's Media Conference does, beyond some "associated notability", which is promotional and brings WP:NOTINHERITED to mind. I do not wish to be contacted for further feedback about this specific article. Good luck editing!~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Cut down on the trendy buzzwords like "changemaker" and "achiever", and tell readers in plain English what actually happens at these conferences. And leave out the bit about how they changed one meaningless slogan for another. Maproom (talk) 17:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

And, Evadne elenchan, remember that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 18:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

What is a support group

184.166.184.67 (talk) 18:56, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. This is mainly an area to ask questions about using Wikipedia, but I can tell you that we have an article on support group (click the link) which should answer your question. 331dot (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Who reverts edits? How do people revert edits?

Who reverts edits? How do people revert edits? Damianlewis21 (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Reverting. ― Qwerfjkl talk 20:43, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Help with my page on saffordia

My page on the extinct bivalve saffordia is done, but I can’t publish it, even thought I am 4 days old and have made more then 10 edits, so can someone publish it for me please

}} Fossiladder13 (talk) 21:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Fossiladder13. I have added a header to Draft:Saffordia which will allow you to submit it for review. Your citation is generating some error messages, which you should fix. --ColinFine (talk) 21:58, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Self-published websites.

I have been advised to not use a self-published website as a reference. I dont understand this. What is an example of a website that is NOT self-published?John Keller (talk) 05:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC) John Keller (talk) 05:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, John Keller, websites of respected media organizations that have a group of reporters, a team of editors, and ownership that does not make editorial decisions is not "self published". A university website with an elaborate review process for all of its content is not "self published". An book whose content is available online and is published by a major publishing house that reviews the text of each book with a fine toothed comb is not "self published". Websites that are basically a one person shows are self published. Cullen328 (talk) 06:14, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Cullen328, thanks for your reply. I would have thought that a university website is published by that university! So maybe "self-published" is not exactly what it means. (At first i thought it just meant published by myself.) Anyway, if i wanted to write an article on "Proposed Music Notation Reforms", as written about in the book by Gardner Read, would the website which itemises many of these systems (musicnotation.org) be an allowed reference, in your opinion? (I don't own this website.) My own opinion would be that anyone looking up this topic would be grateful to see examples of some of these proposed systems. I would appreciate your thoughts. John Keller (talk) 06:52, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

John Keller, I see that Gardner Read was a scholar of music who wrote about notation and who died in 2005. So, his work cannot be used as a reliable source for any developments since 2005 or that he did not discuss. If you are here to promote your own original research, then I need to advise you to stop. Experienced general Wikipedia editors take a very dim view of self-promotion, so please be very cautious. Cullen328 (talk) 07:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

So my question is whether musicnotation.org could be cited. It is basically a continuation of Read's collection of alternative proposals. Now you are confusing me. Surely people who write articles, or edit them, have done "research" on the topic! John Keller (talk) 07:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

As somebody who knows far more than most about alternative notation systems, John Keller, you are well qualified to summarize material about this from sources to which you don't contribute (and that aren't rivals). Used carefully, musicnotation.org looks as if it could be a worthwhile source: if so, it should be cited by editors who don't contribute to it (and aren't rivals). As for the research matter, I have contributed to a number of articles. I can't claim that my contributions have been particularly praiseworthy, but they've seldom aroused reversions, deletions or complaints. I have conducted no research whatever in most of the areas, and on the rare occasion when I have conducted a tiny amount of research I have been careful not to cite this. If this notion seems ridiculous or makes you indignant, then this website isn't for you. -- Hoary (talk) 08:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion Hoary. I think we have a different sense of the word "research". People who write on a topic, have researched it. Otherwise they would have no knowledge to contribute. (Except grammar etc.) Yes, I have knowledge of alternative music systems, and my own system has been accepted onto the website. If this makes me ineligible to contribute to the Wikipedia article, would you be kind enough to add the link yourself, not to my system, but just to the website? As you say, it could be a worthwhile source; it is probably the only non-partisan site describing such alternative systems. I feel awful that just because I tried to add something, all the previous references have now been deleted. And the one example that is left in, is not an appropriate example anyway! Without a reference, the whole article is rather pointless. John Keller (talk) 10:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@John Keller this is a dilemma Academics/subject experts who are Wikipedia editors often face. Worthwhile reading Help:Wikipedia editing for researchers, scholars, and academics ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:57, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

John Keller, there is a major distinction between the type of research that Wikipedia editors do, which consists of reading a range of reliable sources say about a topic and accurately summarizing them, and actual original research. Please read No original research which is a core content policy. Cullen328 (talk) 17:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

John Keller, I fully agree with Cullen328 immediately above. As for your inviting me to neutrally correct an overzealous deletion in an article, I'm sure you meant this constructively and benevolently, but no, for three reasons. First, my understanding of musical notation is infinitesimal and I worry that I might blunder. Secondly, I've rather lost sight of which article this is about. I see that you have recently been editing the article Musical notation. The uppermost and oldest thread in its "talk" page contains this nugget of stupidity: "If you hadn't noticed, cultural history has indeed been dominated in recent centuries by Europe and particularly the uk." If sight of it made you despair of that "talk" page or talk pages in general, I understand. And the third reason: Do please use an article's talk page to suggest an edit that you think you shouldn't make yourself; this way, you can "engage with" other editors (who for the most part won't be nationalist nutters). -- Hoary (talk) 23:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Barnstars

How do you propose a barnstar for creation? You'vegotmail27 • TALK 23:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Barnstars#Adding a barnstar to the list, You'vegotmail27. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 23:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Moving my page out of Sandbox into Wikipedia

I am GaudhamPragadesh123. Hope all of you are doing great! I wrote a page about a company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kami_(Digital_Learning_Platform) and how do i move this from draft stage to live in Wikipedia. As a market researcher, I have already checked all my references. I am also adding few more pages on different industries/sectors. I really appreciate the help guys! GaudhamPragadesh123 (talk) 23:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

GaudhamPragadesh123 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit your draft. If you are editing for a client, please review WP:PAID for information on a required formal disclosure. 331dot (talk) 23:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

I am honestly telling you I am not doing this for a client, or for money or for any kind of material gain. It is something like this, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/based-on-a-true-story-how-us-debt-collection-industry_b_578dcb4de4b05e7343a69a99 My interests lie in Businesses, Marketing, Analytics and biological sciences. I just want to see my research going live, and Is that asking for too much?

GaudhamPragadesh123 Okay. In any event, please see the top of the draft for the submission notice. 331dot (talk) 23:55, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks mate! I will be working on industry reports going forward. I think I will wait for two months for the reviewers to come up with suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.92.197 (talk) 00:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

assistance meeting "notability" and "citation" guidelines

The first article I have contributed "Gregg Hill (jazz composer)" has been flagged for "notability" and "needs more citations from reliable, independent sources." It has been moved to draftspace(I don't know how to link it here, please advise). I have cited 2 independent articles on the composer (a newspaper article and liner notes of a major commercial jazz release by Rodney Whitaker who has his own Wikipedia page. So at the very least Gregg Hill(jazz composer) should be connected to that page if he doesn't yet merit his own article, correct? Can you tell me if the sources I have are indeed not appropriate, or where the issues are? Please advise the best course of action or connect me with someone who can help this article meet standards before submitting for review? Thank you in advance for your help. EroniousThunk (talk) 23:39, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

courtesy link: Draft:Gregg Hill (jazz composer) Karenthewriter (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not going to evaluate your two sources, but two is a very low number. You might ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Jazz, to see if anyone frequenting that page can dig up more sources on Hill. -- Hoary (talk) 00:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Confused?

I recently changed an article about a sportsman. I cited credible sources and gave reasoning for the change. My change was swiftly nullified and I was threatened with my account being blocked without any specific clarifications. Can someone please explain how editing articles works because my impression has obviously been proven wrong? Are popular pages only allowed to be changed by "special" users? DBSCC95 (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi DBSCC95 and welcome to the Teahouse. In this edit, you removed the source you'd added to back up your assertion, leaving it unsourced. Stating the source in an edit summary is not enough. I can't speak to whether the source is credible; this is something you should either discuss on the article's talk page (Talk:Aleksandar Rakić) or with Cassiopeia, the editor who reverted you, on their talk page (but preferably the talk page for the article). Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, DBSCC95. The problem is that the first time you edited, changing the infobox, you managed to insert first the reference correctly between <ref> and </ref>, then the bare URL, and then an empty pair of <ref></ref>: this last is what the error message was about. You tried to sort it out, and ended up removing the reference entirely. Then you edited the lede, without inserting the reference, and Cassiopeia reverted your edits as unsourced. The thing to do now is to discuss it, as Wikignome Wintergreen says. Changing somebody's nationality in an article is often contentious, and most times it would be better to discuss the proposed change on the article's talk page before making the edit; but making an edit, being reverted, and then discussing on the talk page, is a common way for things to happen: see WP:BRD. --ColinFine (talk) 20:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank-you for your quick reply. Unfortunately, I am more confused than before. I looked at the talk page and other users agreed with the objective situation. I cannot find "Cassiopeia"'s clarification, I only received a threat for "disruptiveness". I will try for a second time and hope this time I am given an explanation if the sources are not the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBSCC95 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out the issue with the prior adjustment. I have corrected the sourcing and hope the changes are in line with expectations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBSCC95 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@DBSCC95 and ColinFine: Hi ColinFine, thank you for the ping. Hi DBSCC95 , Good day. Pls note that Aleksandar Rakić's parents are from Serbia but he was born and raised in Vienna, Austria which makes him an Austria - see sources here (note: use control F and type Austria/Austrian to fidd the info in the body of the articles to find the info) - here-1, here-2, here-3, here-4, here-5, here-6, here-7and here -8. Having the Serbian heritage does not make him a Serbian. Many MMA fighters or other subjects and claim their parent birth countries as their own especially those who are the first generation who born outside their parent countries (just like your source provided) but officially and rightfully, they are not the citizen of the countries of their parents. Their ethnicity can not be placed in the WP:LEAD section (intro) of the article but in the body text which the info of his Serbian heritage/ethnicity which could be found in the "Background" section. Pls do not add back the info and source (which is not the false info of his citizenship) back to the article. Stay safe. Cassiopeia talk 00:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Cassiopeia not to be anal, but someone's citizenship cannot be ascertained by where they were born, nor where there parents are automatically. Most countries in EU do not grant automatic citizenship for being born jus soli. But I agree with your revert/need for sourcing. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 00:39, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I am not sure whether you read your sources considering the headline of the very first you attached translates: "I am a Serbian from Bosnia". How this helps your argument of him coming from Austria I do not understand. Whilst searching for the word "Austria" in this article one can only find a quote of him stating he no longer wishes to represent that country. The following sources are clearly published before 2021, the year he decided to change his nationality and the country he represents. It is not a question of ethnicity as he holds citizenship, stated on multiple occasions . Please compare this situation with Diego Costa, who was born and raised in Brazil without Spanish family members but still enjoys the decency to decide his nationality for himself. If you read through the numerous complaints regarding this matter in your archives, you will realise no countering opinions have been posted. This is the only famous athlete to my knowledge who represents a country in a sport, holds citizenship and claims to come from there, with numerous Wiki complaints (with 0 opposing ones) but has a different nationality on Wikipedia. I think Wikipedia's uniform guidelines are there for a reason. And also please do not forget to edit Elon Musks nationality regardless of his prior statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBSCC95 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah and DBSCC95: DBSCC95, First of all, pls add an additonal ":" /colon from the previous message thread for one space indentation to the right to seperate the messages as this is the protocol of Wikipedia communication in talk pages. Secondly, pls sign your post at the end of your message by adding 4 ~ see Wikipedia:Signatures for details and instructions. Shushugah and DBSCC95, Pls note that Wikipedia is all about verifibility. indepndent, reliable (IRS) sources have indicated he is an Austrian. His mentioned of having Serbian blood is not an independent source as from the subject himself. Whether he raised the Serbian flag or no longer wish to represent the country has no merit of his official nationality. If you can find (IRS) indicated he has Serbian citizenship, then you can add additional nationality on the article. Cassiopeia talk 01:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Have I edit warred?

Hello. On November 26, I made the silly move of violating WP:NOTWALLOFSHAME by reverting 201.187.68.208’s blankings on their own talk page about once (twice if you count an aborted one). I know for sure I violated WP:0RR and possibly WP:1RR, but I did not violate WP:3RR. Do you think I edit warred? — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — SANDBOXES — LOGS — 20:06, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@3PPYB6: Welcome to the teahouse. Edit warring is when you revert three times in a 24-hour period, so I suggest you haven't violated WP:3RR. It's okay to revert once or twice, but three times is maybe too much. IMO, you didn't edit war. Severestorm28 (talk) 00:03, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@3PPYB6: You can edit war without violating 3RR but I think that's besides the point here. 0RR and 1RR don't apply unless stated so. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 01:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Lagging when trying to edit

editing issue

Sometimes when I'm trying to edit an article through visual editing, the editing process will start to lag when I'm writing text and it will stutter and take some time for the text to show up after typing. This happens even when I've reloaded the page numerous or close the google page and try it again. Is this normal and is there a fix? My internet connection is quite good and stable too so I don't believe that's the issue. Suthasianhistorian8 (talk) 01:39, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Suthasianhistorian8 Welcome to Tea House! It's hard to debug such situations, but one thing I'd recommend is editing Wikipedia in IP mode/in incognito/private mode in your browser to isolate Wikipedia gadgets, browser cache, cookies among other things. Specific articles can be slow because of excessive cascading/transclusion of templates and big images, though usually it's the first few things I mentioned. WP:VPT can be useful too ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 01:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

A question

How to say at the top of an article: "Not to be confused with: example"You'vegotmail27 • TALK 21:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@You'vegotmail27 Welcome to Tea House! You can use {{for}}. Another template I like a lot is {{about}}. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@You'vegotmail27: {{Distinguish}} has the particular wording "Not to be confused with" but note the specific usage. There are many other hatnotes for other situations. Please post your real example when you ask a question. We cannot say which hatnote is best suited for what you actually want. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

How can I tell if a move is going to be uncontroversial?

In general, how can I tell if a move is going to be uncontroversial? I'm considering moving LGBT rights in Asia to List of LGBT rights in Asia by country or territory. Does this seem like a good time to be bold, or should I bring it up using guidelines in Wikipedia:Requested moves/Controversial? Tyrone Madera (talk) 20:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You will know this if your move is reverted. Ruslik_Zero 20:43, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good then. Tyrone Madera (talk) 20:56, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: I see your move was reverted in ten minutes. I'm not surprised. Here are some signs it was likely to be controversial. The biggest is that LGBT rights in Asia#See also shows the same pattern for similar articles. "LGBT rights in Asia" is a much simpler title. LGBT rights is a controversial topic with passionate feelings around it. It's listed as the main article in Category:LGBT rights in Asia which has the same name. The article is well-developed and formatted with many references, indicating large editor interest and care, and it's 13 years old with no moves, meaning a very stable title. If the title was generally considered poor then it would probably already have been moved. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Your advice was very helpful. I'll be sure to look out for these signs in the future. Thank you! Best, Tyrone Madera (talk) 03:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Donations

I just made a donation - as I always do - to Wikipedia, and am being bugged by the barrage of requests for donations I STILL receive. I'm sorry, but it's very offputting 103.100.225.156 (talk) 04:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Thank you for donating! Since donations are not tied to IP addresses, there's no way for the banner to "know" that you've made a donation. If you want to make the banner go away, you can do it by registering an account and disabling its display in your preferences. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 04:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Can I get my old edits back?

Greetings, fellow collectors of knowledge.

I had already made a couple of edits before I decided to join up and create an account. Now those edits are of course associated with my IP addresses (which apparently changed between edits). Is there any way to reassign those old edits to my account? Herr Hartmann (talk) 23:28, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Herr Hartmann. No, there isn't, but if you're willing to publicly associate your account with the IP(s), you can make a note on your user page along the lines of, "Used to edit as [insert IP addresses]." Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 23:55, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Herr Hartmann @Herr Hartmann I don't believe so. In severe cases, admins can rename the user associated with specific edits, but there are no easy ways to merge account edits. If you need special WP:PERMS you can request so (for example a prior registered account had 500 edits for WP:ECP status. Do you have a more specific reason why? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 00:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

adding to the above, unfortunately if these edits were ip edits, they cannot be considered for ECP status since ips can be used by multiple people and we would have no way of telling who edited which. happy editing! melecie t - 04:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the infos, everyone! It's not really that important, I'm just a big fan of keeping things organized, and having my contributions scattered over three or four different IPs is definitely not organized. Especially now that I have a perfectly good account that could hold them instead. It would have been nice if it could be done, but it's not really worth making a big fuss about it. I guess it's really my own fault for editing without an account in the first place. Looks like I'll just need to keep making edits and let those early ones fade away in the background. Herr Hartmann (talk) 06:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Table cente

Hi, How can I centter a table? Thanks. --Spotanus (talk) 07:39, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Have you read Help:Table#Centering_tables? -- Hoary (talk) 07:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

How to write in an encyclopedia tone?

Hi, my Wikipedia submission is rejected due to it being written in a promotional tone. To me, I'm just stating the facts that I found, and I couldn't see the promotional tone of it. It would be appreciated if someone could teach me how to write in a more appropriate tone. For example, is it because of the types of words I used?

Thank you. Theonlysamantha (talk) 05:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC) Theonlysamantha (talk) 05:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link Draft:Natural8 Karenthewriter (talk) 06:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Theonlysamantha, your draft starts Natural8.com is a skin of the popular GG "Good Game" Network. According to Poker Listings, Natural8 is one of Asia's highest traffic online poker sites that focuses mainly on the recreational player experience. Why say that the network is popular? What (if anything) does it mean to say that a site "focuses mainly on the recreational player experience"? (Is its main focus really this and not, say, that of making money for its proprietor(s)?) And is your subject a skin, or a site, or a room? (It is, or seems to be, described as each of the three.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:46, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Theonlysamantha. Your draft begins with Natural8.com is a skin of the popular GG "Good Game" Network. According to Poker Listings, Natural8 is one of Asia's highest traffic online poker sites that focuses mainly on the recreational player experience. You include an external link in the opening part of the body of your draft, which is incorrect. External links belong only in designated sections. You say that the "Good Game" network is "popular" but do not provide a reliable, independent source for that assertion. What makes you think that "Poker Listings" is a reliable source? It looks extremely promotional to me, and I am completely unconvinced that it is reliable. The types of words that you used are promotional and problematic, but even more so, the sources you use are unreliable and overtly promotional. The bottom line is that Wikipedia is not a venue for any type of promotional content. That is forbidden. Cullen328 (talk) 07:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

My article Abaasa

Am completely disappointed in how wikipedia reviewers handle musical artists articles. Am starting to believe there is bias and wikipedia favours articles about politicians. For the last few years, I have created articles about politicians in Uganda but even with limited coverage and citations, the articles would be reviewed and not tagged. Problems always arise when I work on an article outside politics, its quickly tagged and the reviewers quickly note that the artists are not notable enough to be on wikipedia. This is soo disappointing, you have to keep in mind that artists especially from countries like Uganda and other 3rd world countries usually have fewer mentions in print media however notable they are, they only get mentions from smaller websites which a reviewer might not put into consideration as he reviews an article. Am generally disappointed with the way artists are treated on wikipedia, at one point I had considered to only write about politicians because for them, somehow reviewers dont over emphasize notability. I need advice, way forward and a look into my article Abaasa and how it can be improved. Bear in mind that I dont have any conflict of interest! It's just a general observation about how my different articles have been treated. Alvinategyeka (talk) 07:50, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Alvinategyeka Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I am sorry for your difficultly. The difference in editing about politicians and editing about musicians is the definition of notability. Most politicians that hold office are notable, per the definition of a notable politician, while not every musician is notable per the definition of a notable musician. These days it is not difficult for almost anyone to create music and post it online, or perform it in a local club(these are just examples), meaning that Wikipedia must be more selective. It is also true that the availability of reliable sources varies from country to country, resulting in a systemic bias. This is unavoidable, as article content, especially about living people, must be sourced to independent reliable sources that can be verified. I would suggest that you move the article into Draft space(or ask that someone do it for you) where you can work on it and take your time, looking for proper sources to summarize and demonstrate that the person meets the definition of a notable musician. 331dot (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Alvinategyeka, To extend 331dot's comment, let's do a breakdown here and see what's wrong with the article, hope it's fine.

The article has several capitalization problems. "kiremire", "prof.", "parents school school" (duplicate school?), "he" in "he later joined", "technology", "muyonjo", "Uganda music Awards", "club music video awards". Also some typing problems like "StudioAlbums", "O'level", "A'level". Songs should also be in quotes unitalicized. I can of course fix all this, but I'm pointing this since I assume you edit on mobile, and hopefully you can pay attention to these issues more. It's not a really big problem of course, I do this too a lot, but just thought me pointing it out might be helpful.
All sections are title case. So instead of "Music Career", it's "Music career"
"Early life and Education" paragraph 1, "StudioAlbums", and "Voice inside ft Patrobas" are not referenced.
Your list of references don't really determine notability. Sofar Sounds is a database; Spotify is a streaming service; Chano8 is a gossip website; New Vision has a server error in my place; BigEye is another gossip site; SongLyrics.com is a database; Spurzine is another gossip site; so is Ugandan Buzz and Northern Buzz. The other sources look good, but if the subject is actually notable then I'm sure you can get other sources replacing these ones that I pointed out. I would never cite gossip sources.
Web Links should be External links.

I know it may feel like I'm just being a critic here. And I know how harsh the WP environment may be. Trust me, I've been there. But if you really think the subject is notable, and you try look for more sources and try to improve the article just a little bit more, I think you'll get those tags erased. Gerald WL 08:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Capitalization problems and the like are irrelevant to notability. Alvinategyeka, I agree with 331dot. And yes, there is a systemic bias. If Abaasa were, say, British, then it would be very likely that he'd eventually get a total of three or more articles in sources such as The Guardian and The Independent. If he did, and if these weren't mere interviews, they'd add up to satisfy the general criteria for notability (and failure to meet the criteria for notability as a musician wouldn't matter at all). I suppose that the population of Uganda would be about 45 million. If the nation lacks anything similar to theguardian.com this is a great pity (not just for Wikipedia-editing purposes, but for the population as a whole); however, it's not at all surprising. To get the coverage that would ensure [Wikipedia-style] notability, Abaasa might have to gain a following somewhere like Hamburg, Paris, or Milan. (You think that this is absurd? Yes, me too.) I'm delighted to see that you're passionate about human rights; it shouldn't be hard to continue editing in that area. -- Hoary (talk) 08:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

delete page

hello, how can I delete a page? --Spotanus (talk) 11:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Spotanus Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You can't, only administrators can delete pages. There are a few methods of proposing the deletion of a page or article, see WP:DELETE. If you would like to tell us what page or article you want deleted, we can be more specific. 331dot (talk) 11:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Spotanus Welcome to Tea House! Paraphrasing User:Hoary, You don't mark it for deletion. Rather, you first read Wikipedia:Deletion policy to see if policy requires that it should be deleted. If it does, then you carefully follow the recipe for suggesting deletion that you'll find at {{AfD}} in 3 steps. Then if other users agree with you that deletion is appropriate, if the consensus is that yes it is, then the article is deleted. (If this sounds horribly complex, yes it is. But practice will speed up your part in the process).

Only admins can carry out the actual deletion on a technical level. If it's obvious spam/harmful, you can always submit it to WP:AIV. Which article are you trying to delete? Happy editing ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:07, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

AIV is for reporting vandals, not pages for deletion. 331dot (talk) 11:08, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@331dot@Shushugah I've requested for delete my userpage. Can you delete it? --Spotanus (talk) 11:09, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Done. 331dot (talk) 11:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I can't delete your global user page, you will need to request that on meta. 331dot (talk) 11:14, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I believe the correct policy on Meta Wiki is meta:Meta:Deletion policy. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:34, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

someone always remove my edits.

Hey Wikipedia, whatever I edit on different pages, on the other day my edit is removed by the moderator, I only give genuine information related to the page then why my all edits got removed by other users, if my any of the edits remove or undo next time, I feel like I have no more be a participant in Wikipedia and quit Wikipedia, I am not a spam person, I am an original person and want to share only real information related to any topic, I hope you understand and help me in this problem. Hasi j (talk) 11:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Looking at your contributions, it seems to be because you're adding links to a website that you claim to write for - That's self promotion and it isn't allowed on Wikipedia. If you'd like to add information, you need to add to the prose of the article itself, while citing reliable sources. ThadeusOfNazereth^{Talk to Me!} 11:45, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Article for Creation, Draft Lingaro (deleted)

Hello,

unfortunately the draft article Lingaro I submitted was deleted. The message I received: This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The question: is the problem only in the style, manner of writing that it looks like an advertisement? Or this means the topic is not notable - not enough trustful sources were linked to this article?

Thank you User-ana5 (talk) 11:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

The company "is a technology solutions provider". Does this mean that it provides software? If not, what does it mean? It provides "a wide range of enterprise software development advisory and support services, particularly with respect to data analytics and direct-to-consumer solutions". Does this mean that it provides software for tracking web visitors and for retailing? If not, what does it mean? Et cetera. "Lingaro is driven by its Core Values": this is mere corporate puffery. As for sources, many are cited, but most are unfamiliar to me and sorry but I lack the energy to investigate them. However, I do notice two references to prnewswire.com. This should not be cited. -- Hoary (talk) 11:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

My article was deleted without giving me the chance to figure out what the issue is...

We have written an article about a cooperative council established last year, but it was tagged as promotional, and I didnt have time to figure out which part of the content is promotional before it was deleted. Can i have some help please? Not sure how to proceed. Wikiabudhabi (talk) 09:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Wikiabudhabi welcome to Tea House! Who is "we"? On your talk page User talk:Wikiabudhabi it says to contact the Admin who deleted it, if you have a good reason to restore it. That admin was User:Jimfbleak. You're free to recreate a new article, but it cannot be WP:PROMOTIONAL and needs to be reliable, SECONDARY sources. No primary sources or original research. Otherwise it will be deleted again. Please read WP:YFA. Creating your first article is one of the hardest things you can do, but if you take my advice to heart, you'll have much more success in the long term. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Wikiabudhabi. It might help you if you understand that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 12:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up to edit the 404 not found link.

Hey Wikipedia, whatever I edit on different pages, on the other day my edit is removed by the moderator, I only give genuine information related to the page then why my all edits got removed by other users, if my any of the edits remove or undo next time, I feel like I have no more be a participant in Wikipedia and quit Wikipedia, I am not a spam person, I am an original person and want to share only real information related to any topic, I hope you understand and help me in this problem. Hasi j (talk) 11:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

User is now blocked. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 13:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion to clean-up

List of mental disorders in film article have some issues, as a editor I want you to clean this article and do appropriate changes, so it'll appear, the encyclopedia article should appear. Newton Euro (talk) 12:54, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro Welcome to the Teahouse where our purpose is to guide editors who need help in editing Wikipedia. Unfortunately what we don't take on is directly fixing issues in the 6.2 million plus articles we have. If you do have concerns over accuracy or neutrality, you are best advised to raise this on the article's own Talk Page (in this case Talk:List of mental disorders in film, or attempt to fix the issues yourself if you feel confident to do so. Thank you for raising the issue, though. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

How can I use a skin from another mediawiki on Wikipedia?

Hi, I am trying to customize my wikipedia to make it look nicer, and there is another skin over at another wiki called WikiFur that has a really nice skin called BentoFluid that I would really like to use for browsing this wiki. Is there any way that I can get the CSS from that skin and use it here? I know that you can use custom CSS for a wikipedia skin, but I'm not sure if it's as easy as copying and pasting BentoFluid's CSS From D0nk M3m3s (talk) 12:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@D0nk m3m3s Welcome to the Teahouse. I have to be careful how I phrase this, but you can get your hands on four skins that you can choose from. They'll be viewable in your personal 'Preferences' settings. Because every one needs to be tested whenever an update is made to the Wikimedia software we use here, we don't offer any more. Users with the right skills (i.e. not me) can make minor alterations via CSS, I believe. Please read Wikipedia:Skin to learn more about what can and can't be done. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Citations

Can you cite an autobiography of someone? ― Kaleeb18^Talk 14:03, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kaleeb18 Welcome to the Teahouse. You may not use an autobiography to support factual statements, which actually need to be written about by good quality secondary sources. That said, you may use it as a source for minor trivial information, though even things like birthdates and parents names can be prone to being lied about. So it's best to ignore them completely if you can. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Gotcha, Thank you. ― Kaleeb18^Talk 14:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Too much Blue links ?

List of mental disorders in film have blue links for sub-section names. But due to these large blue links, whenever I tried to open sub-section it takes me to the article of blue link. I suggest to remove all these heading blue links and add it inside sub-section. Newton Euro (talk) 11:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I think you're right that this is sort of strange looking, however, you shouldn't need to click on the subsection title to go there - If you use the table of contents, it will take you to that section. It may be better to add a sentence beneath each heading explaining what the mental disorder is, and have the link there instead (it'll look a bit cleaner, at least) ThadeusOfNazereth^{Talk to Me!} 11:46, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Newton Euro. It generally not considered good practice per MOS:HEAD to add links to section headings for various reasons, and there's almost always a better way to provide the same links within the body of the corresponding section or as a WP:HATNOTE like Template:Main located directly below the section heading. This type of cleanup is usually non-contentious; so, if you want to be WP:BOLD and incorporate the links in some other way, then that's should be OK. If, however, someone reverts you, then you'd be better off following WP:BRD and engaging that person and others on the article talk page instead of running the risk of an edit war by reverting back to your preferred version. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

However, since you've already gone ahead and queried about this at Talk:List of mental disorders in film#Problem of this article, you might want to give that discussion some time to play out and see if anyone else has an opinion. If nobody responds in a reasonable amount of time (e.g. a week), then it should be OK to assume WP:SILENCE and be bold in making the change. If you try to do so at the moment, someone might accuse you of acting in bad faith by asking for input and then acting boldly all in one fell swoop without waiting to see if anyone replies. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: The problem is that most of the time no one responded to the questions & suggestions mentioned on article talk pages. I feel if I didn't fixed the problem instantly, I'll forget the article and it'll remain same.Newton Euro (talk) 12:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC) @ThadeusOfNazereth: in response your suggestion, most of the folks use android phone, we have small place to click. Newton Euro (talk) 12:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro: There is no rush – we are all volunteers and can't attend to everything immediately. Do you use the watchlist? It's a way of following changes to articles that you're interested in. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 12:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Newton Euro I've replied there, and agree with your proposal. Be bold! Nick Moyes (talk) 14:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

asking to review changes/remove flag

Hello, I cited (what I think are) good secondary sources on [[13]]. Could someone verify this and remove the flag? Or, if the sources are insufficient, can you explain why and what sources would be better? I tried reading through the help pages but they were kind of confusing. The sources I cited are interviews, but the interviewer makes value statements about the interviewee's work, so I'm citing the interviewer's questions more than the interviewee's answers (which I think would be classified as a primary source). Thank you :) Carmensandiegoedits (talk) 13:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Carmensandiegoedits, Interviews are not considered secondary sources. You want to find sources that do no rely on the words of the subject. Slywriter (talk) 15:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Slywriter, Thank you for your response! In this case, I'm citing the interviewer's questions, not the interviewee's answers. Would that work?

Carmensandiegoedits, No. You need to find in-depth discussion of the subject in an article that has no affiliation with the subject. Slywriter (talk) 15:46, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It's difficult to see how, Slywriter, (though I haven't looked at your sources). Questions are questions, not statements; and it's hard to regard statements about the interviewee's work, made during an interview, as truly independent. I guess it will depend partly on how searching the interview seems to be. --ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Outline of chocolate - is this really a style of article we have?

I came across the article Outline of chocolate, and it struck me as kind of odd. I've been editing for a few years, but this is a style of article I've never come across - it's almost a list, but it isn't, and it's not a general overview of chocolate like you'd expect from the, well, chocolate article. One of the headers is just a question, which I don't think is in the manual of style.

I'm familiar with generic overviews that then link off to more detailed articles - Japanese clothing is one. I suppose it's just an article titled "Outline of ___" that's stumped me.

Sorry if this seems like a silly question - but do we really format generic outline articles like this? It seems like its content ought to be subsumed elsewhere, is all. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 14:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

We have loads of "Outline of..." articles. There was a handful of editors who liked doing them, led by User:The Transhumanist, who did most of this one. This is typical in getting very few views, av. 17 per day. I've never found them any use myself, & I think production of new ones has now largely stopped, but arguably they do little harm. Johnbod (talk) 14:41, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I quite like it! If you imagine someone wrote a book on the subject of chocolate, this outline would be the contents page. But I suppose these things are a matter of taste; I personally don't find categories useful, but a lot of people adore them. Anything is probably good, if it helps some group, somewhere, find the information they want. Elemimele (talk) 17:12, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Outlines. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Johnbod: - thanks for the explanation! What struck me was that the subheading style just seemed too informal for Wikipedia proper - questions are deprecated I think pretty much everywhere else, and it did strike me as possibly a relic from an earlier time. Were I someone with more time, I'd maybe propose reworking the layout and style guide to possibly bring it more in line with what we see elsewhere on the project today. Thanks for the help!--Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 16:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't see why we need a separate article. Most of the headings correspond to a section in chocolate article, as well as having other articles for specific things. Don't see any value to this outline article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:30, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Why is an Earls wife called a countess

An Earls wife is called a countess because of king George I brought over the title of count from Germany. Instead of creating a new title however he kept the title “eaorl” just update the spelling to the modern title “earl”. He chose to keep the female version of count (countess) as the female equivalent of Earl. Lord JAS MOD EOC (talk) 00:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Lord JAS MOD EOC, do you have a question about editing? -- Hoary (talk) 00:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Lord JAS MOD EOC: This would be a better question to ask at one of the Reference desks. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Lord JAS MOD EOC, if she were styled "earless", people might think she was aurally challenged. Maproom (talk) 16:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

how can I contribute in translating/editing?

hello everyone, thank you so much for inviting me here! i'm excited to hopefully be a member of the Wikipedia family. Arabic is my first language, and i enjoy translating articles and i would consider myself pretty good at it. specifically English to Arabic. and i have a decent amount of experience since I've translated a good sum of articles in other websites. in addition, i am a big fan of BTS. and one thing that i have noticed is that there is a very little amount of content related to BTS here in Wikipedia in Arabic. which is unfortunate.. my question is, i really want to contribute in translating bts-related content that is already here in Wikipedia to Arabic, and maybe even add to it. where should I start? i already did some minor changes in existing articles like the Arabic page of Black Swan (BTS' song) but this article is not reviewed yet. and by the way, i have some drafts of articles about bts here in Wikipedia that i translated to Arabic myself but i did not publish any of it. how can i know if the article is good and can be published here as an interlanguage/interwiki link? sorry for the long entry.. and thank you again! Evenwhenimsad (talk) 16:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for wanting to contribute, Evenwhenimsad. If you are mainly going to create articles in Arabic, you need to aware that each language-specific part of Wikipedia is independent and they will have their own standards and processes for accepting new material, whether translated or not. As I know no Arabic, I can't help but you should consult their equivalent of this Teahouse/Helpdesk to get your answer. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Evenwhenimsad Welcome to Tea House! We can only help you here with English Wikipedia, but once an article is created in other language Wikipedias, you can link it with Wikidata, see d:Help:Linking Wikipedia pages. For specific questions about Arabic Wikipedia please visit ar:ويكيبيديا:بوابة_المشاركة which is the Arabic Tea House equivalent to this one. Also note there is a closely related but distinct Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia. Keep in mind the content/sourcing/notability requirements may differ in each language edition of Wikipedia. Happy editing and translating! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 16:41, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

thank you so much Shushugah/Mike Turnbull :) !

why my article does not meet the criteria of notability?

What is missing from my article to meet the criteria for notability? It is a translation of the article in Spanish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Carlos_Hank_Gonz%C3%A1lez_(businessman) Do you have any recommendations? Diegordeto (talk) 15:55, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

In short, your article does not show that Gonzalez meets the English Wikipedia's threshold of notability for a businessman. The references you have provided merely tell us what he does and do not give details about him to the detailed extent in reliable sources that are independent of him that are required. The Spanish-language wikipedia is totally separate from the English one and may well have less demanding standards. There are over 6 billion people on this planet going about their everyday business and very few of us merit an article here. Note that autobiography is strongly discouraged. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Diegordeto: You have re-submitted the draft without making a single change, as far as I can see (another editor has removed some material). This is a waste of everyone's time: it will just be declined again. To add to your (slim) chances of acceptance you need at minimum to make the references as more than bare URL — see WP:REFB. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

International Association of Project Managers template removal

Hi! I've been working on adding more secondary sources for the page described in the subject. Is this enough to remove the template? Thanks! International Association of Project Managers GilbertPotter (talk) 13:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

GilbertPotter, Linkedin is not a reliable source. Neither is online exam. You need to find sources unrelated to the subject. Slywriter (talk) 15:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Slywriter Ok, thanks. I have removed LinkedIn. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you mean with the other one. Aren't the secondary sources enough? Tertiary sources in the PM field only seem to exist for giants like PMI or scrum alliance.GilbertPotter (talk) 16:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Can't seem to find source referred to, so not sure what i meant. Doesn't change that the article relies too heavily on the subject for information and what other sources remain do not come across as reliable as they are sales sites selling testing materials for certification or passing mentions. So while the article may have secondary sources, none of them are what wikipedia would consider reliable. It's going to be tough to find but at the end of the day, Wikipedia isn't about what's true, it is about whats verifiable and covered by reliable sources. Slywriter (talk) 17:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

User sandbox question

FYI

– Sections split. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Are we allowed to put anything in user sandboxes, or does it have to follow wikipedia's rules? Anchoritium (talk) 17:22, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Anchoritium: Welcome to the Teahouse. Sandboxes must still abide by Wikipedia's policies; a big no-no is putting on copyright-violating material taken from elsewhere. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:25, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks. Anchoritium (talk) 17:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Listing characters with aliases

I've seen characters with aliases being written both ways multiple times, but I want to know which one is right.

Is it "Real Name/Fake Name" or "Real Name / Fake Name"? Are you supposed to put spaces between the "/" or not? Advofspec (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@AdvofspecPerhaps WP:MOS would help here. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 18:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Template:Uw-compromise1 - Template:Uw-compromise4im

These user warning templates would be used when a user compromises their account with user scripts.
Template:Uw-compromise1 would display:
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute here, but you appear to have compromised your account with your [[User:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1133/common.{{{lang}}}|user {{{lang}}} page]]. Your edit to your user {{{lang}}} page has been reverted. Compromising an account is making it do things it does not have permission to do. Thank you!
Template:Uw-compromise2 would display:
Please refrain from compromising your account. Your edit to [[User:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1133/common.{{{lang}}}|user {{{lang}}} page]] has been reverted. Thank you!
Template:Uw-compromise3 would display:
Please stop. If you continue to compromise your account, you may be blocked from editing.
Template:Uw-compromise4 would display:
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you compromise your account.
Template:Uw-compromise4im would display:
This is your only warning; if you compromise your account again, you will be blocked from editing without further notice.
The reason "may" is replaced with "will" is because a user may perform a very serious action that can result in removal of all groups with that right.
Faster than Thunder (talk) 18:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Faster than Thunder and welcome to the Teahouse. Most posts here are questions by new users, but this doesn't appear to be the case with your post. I suspect you would like to propose these warnings to become part of the standardized set of multi-level user warnings, right? In that case I think Wikipedia talk:Template index/User talk namespace might be a better venue than the teahouse. – NJD-DE (talk) 19:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

google knowledge graph shows a competitor

Hello, I am in need of urgent help, and I wish to create an article about A' Design Award & Competition, however I am involved and thus I am not sure I am the right person to write this article, normally this would not be a problem however the Google knowledge graph is taking a competitor business from Wikipedia when keywords "a design award" or "adesignaward" is searched for, this is creating us financial and reputational damages, plus many of our esteemed laureates are asking why we do not have a Wikipedia article, in the past I tried to create an article but it gets deleted each time, perhaps because I am too involved and passionate about the topic, or because I am not a native speaker of English, or because I lack the etiquette to write a proper article in compliance with Wikipedia quality standards, however I am now scared about writing an article and I don't know what to do, all I know is that Wikipedia knowledge graph as displayed by Google is wrong, and I think the only way to fix it is to provide the right article, I need desperate help from admins to write an article about "A' Design Award". I right now have 3041 current links from 649 media publications within the last few years that I was able to export myself from the website uploaded here https://competition.adesignaward.com/ArticleURLsForWikipedia.csv so I have a significant number of sources, plus A' Design Award & Competition organizes World Design Rankings, and operates designers.org we are actually constructing a larger design museum here in Como, Italy, our laureates include Google themselves, Disney, Pepsi, Lenovo, among many other prestigious brands and we actually manage http://idnn.org/ which means we publish winner design news in 109 languages, plus the jury is 211 persons and entries are blind peer reviewed, and the competition is being organized since 2009, we published 47 hardcover books, all printed in Italy. I would like to humbly ask if you could please kindly help me write an article? Everything I write sounds like an advertisement and I am too biased and I should not write this article, I love A' Design Award & Competition therefore I need your advise or help on what to do forward. I don't know if it is relevant but here I am also providing a list of information here in case:

business name: A' Design Award website: https://competition.adesignaward.com/ relevant categories: design awards, industrial design awards, interior design awards, architectural design awards instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adesigncompetition/ facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adesigncompetition youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ADesignAward pinterest: https://www.pinterest.it/adesignaward/ winner showcase: https://competition.adesignaward.com/award-winners.php and http://www.bestdesignsoftheworld.com/ press portal : https://competition.adesignaward.com/press.html press mentions : https://competition.adesignaward.com/ArticleURLsForWikipedia.csv publications list : https://competition.adesignaward.com/printedition.html

I feel I shall not write the article, given my involvement and style, I am asking you if anyone experienced could please help us write a proper, non-biased article that does not sound like an advertisement. 93.56.160.117 (talk) 22:56, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no control over how Google uses Wikipedia information in its search results, you will need to contact Google to correct any search result or knowledge graph errors. 331dot (talk) 23:02, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

You can make a request at Requested Articles, but it won't be done quickly. 331dot (talk) 23:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much 331dot, I will make a Requested Article in this case, is there a way to expedite the process? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.56.160.117 (talk) 23:05, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but no. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people do what they can when they can. The backlog at Requested Articles is severe. To be frank, and I apologize- Wikpedia is only concerned with summarizing what independent reliable sources say about topics that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. We aren't concerned with how a lack of an article affects your business. There are actually good reasons to not want an article. 331dot (talk) 23:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

thank you very much 331dot, I did my due diligence and added my request here as you suggested, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Applied_arts_and_sciences#Companies_and_other_organizations I understand the backtrack is long, I added the list of independent sources there about 3000 articles written about us or our laurates I hope it would be taken into consideration, and I very much appreciate your kind help and suggestion, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.56.160.117 (talk) 23:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

No, this was your edit. Thank you for your modesty in adding it to the end of a list, but the list is, or should be, in alphabetical order, so this entry should go at or near the front. When you make this move from the bottom to (near) the top, please remove every link to the company itself, to Facebook, Instagram, or any other example of "social media". What's needed is a small number links to reliable sources (sources with editorial oversight and high standards) that are independent of the company -- sources that cover the company in depth. Also, please remove fluff such as "laureates include Google , Disney, Pepsi, Lenovo, among many other prestigious brands". (If a brand is prestigious, the reader will know this and therefore saying it is unnecessary.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:34, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much Hoary for your suggestions. I have removed the fluffy words, and moved the A' Design Award top of the list, removed social media links and hopefully correctly referenced sources. However I did leave a large number of links, shall I reduce them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.56.160.117 (talk) 19:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Display resolution

Hello, is theree any template which can determine my display resolution? I want to size a picture into my display resolution. --Spotanus (talk) 18:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Spotanus: The resolution depends on whatever monitor you're using. Your operating system should have a place to check, look it up in Google. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 20:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Do also note that some monitors (such as my monitor for my PC which is the same model as the image on computer monitor) have the ability to allow you to see the resolution of a monitor by just pressing a button to go into a monitor menu. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:29, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Bhatia rajputs

i added the truth about bhatia rajputs on bhatia caste page but why it was discarded. I backed it with relevant sources. It feels bad, without any reason you hv discarded the truth Yodhheya56 (talk) 19:54, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Bhatia caste. Yodhheya56, you removed a properly-cited reference, and substituted one with no page number or publication date. You did not explain why you consider your source preferable. Maproom (talk) 20:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

User page and draft article deletion

Someone has removed my user page and a draft article.

Why were these pages deleted and by whom?

Please advise.

Thank you, Courtney S. Calhoun CourtneySCalhoun (talk) 01:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@CourtneySCalhoun I cannot see the content obviously, but it was deleted per WP:U5 misusing Wikipedia as a web host. This is the third time your page has been deleted. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 02:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

And per the message at User talk:CourtneySCalhoun#Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Softacom, your draft was deleted under "section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic." I see that you've recreated the draft. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 02:15, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

And I have redeleted it, with a sprinkling of salt. -- Hoary (talk) 03:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Dear Wikignome Wintergreen (talk) and Hoary (talk):

[Draft:Softacom] <-- "draft" is the keyword here. This means that the article is/was under development and was going to be rewritten, thus "draft".

I am still gathering information about the company. My final post will be no different than that of Microsoft or Oracle. Upon review, those pages may also be subject to Speedy Deletion for "Unambigous Advertising."

I am not receiving payment for my entry nor do I have a vested interest in the company.

If you conduct your own research, you'll realize that Softacom plays a significant role, worldwide: assisting client-facing companies to modernize applications.

I've added some pepper. Please don't sneeze. ;-) --CourtneySCalhoun (talk) 19:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Good luck. Don't forget to declare your apparent COI, as I stated on your talk page. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 21:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi.

...My name is Timothy McDonald. I’m a former professional football player. The picture on the Wikipedia site is of Guy Macintyer. Is there any way to put a correct picture of me on there? 68.119.129.133 (talk) 18:21, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Tim McDonald

Linked to the article in question above. A simple google search does make the IP's concern plausible. The person in the picture does not look like Tim from what I have googled and does look more like Guy McIntyre. --ARose Wolf 18:34, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP and welcome to the Teahouse. Since we can neither confirm nor deny who you say you are I assumed good faith on your part and removed the image pending a discussion on the article talk page. As this article's subject is a BLP we should err on the side of caution. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. As you would be considered to have a significant COI in regards to this article I would suggest discussing any potential edits on the article talk page rather than you doing them yourself. Any image added to the article would have to come under a free license from copyright according to fair use guidelines. See WP:COI, our policy on managing conflicts of interest, and WP:C which pertains to images as well as text. I hope this helps and I am sure some of the other hosts could be more helpful than I. --ARose Wolf 18:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

WP:DCP covers the process of donating copyrighted material to Wikipedia. Slywriter (talk) 19:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Strange - that file was originally named "Tim McDonald at 49ers Family Day 2009", but was renamed on December 2nd with the reasoning, "Criterion 3 (obvious error) · This is a picture of Guy McKinteyer not me Timothy McDonald". It was renamed to... "Tim McDonald". Maybe Jelican9 can explain, since they did the rename. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 19:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I simply acted out of an abundance of caution but found the circumstances very odd indeed. --ARose Wolf 20:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi everyone. Usually, we only use a first and last name combination for photos without any crowds. If you think there is a mistake in the name, please request a correction. --Jelican9 (talk) 20:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. Well, since the person who uploaded the file doesn't seem to be around any longer, there's not much more we can do, unless - I guess? - Timothy McDonald signs up for a Wikipedia/Wikimedia account, gets officially verified, and says "That is definitely not me!" Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 20:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Exactly, we need this... --Jelican9 (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

asking for a review

i have added the necessary sources to get this article approved, all of the sources now are reliable enough. Thanks Draft:مطاعم ليمونه Abodiiyi (talk) 09:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Abodiiyi Welcome to Tea House! In its current state it will almost immediately be deleted. We do not do reviews here on Tea House, rather we provide specific answers to specific questions. The article name itself must be Anglicized, see WP:TRANSLITERATE and we need extensive reviews of the restaurant, beyond mere links proving it exists. Please read WP:YFA and edit for a few months before attempting to create an article. Your content is less likely to be marked for deletion then. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 10:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

They were told exactly this via -en-help and point-blank refused to listen on the grounds that they feel they need this article for social-media checkmarks. We seriously need to consider telling the social media companies to stop using Wikipedia articles for verification, but that is not a conversation for the Teahouse. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 22:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Filepath

Is there a way to use the {{filepath}} magic word for other wikis? Like, if I need to link to the url of an image on a Fandom wiki from Wikipedia using filepath, is that possible? JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 20:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

If I'm reading the documentation correctly, Master Jedi, no - it can only be used to link to files that are uploaded here or on Commons. Perhaps someone else will know better than I do. May the Force be with you, JediMasterMacaroni. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 22:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Adding a heading

FYI

– Added a heading. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 22:31, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Iamabunny9 (talk) 22:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Why can't i add a heading to aircraft industry of russia?

"Iamabunny9" has been blocked for vandalism. -- Hoary (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi!

Hello! Can you help me understand why people have made this website an unreliable source and are putting fake facts on here? Sundew WoF (talk) 00:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sundew WoF: You may be interested in reading the article Reliability of Wikipedia and Wikipedia's own general disclaimer. If you have a specific problem you're trying to fix, feel free to ask here. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 00:30, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Table formatting

I'm creating a table for a filmmaker's awards and nominations, how do I merge cells that are formatted with the "won" transclusion? Gallagerm (talk) 21:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello Gallagerm and welcome to the Teahouse. I looked at the awards lists for Ron Howard and Tom Hanks, figuring they'd be good examples, and none of the "won" cells there are merged. I don't know if it's for technical or style reasons. Do you not like that format? Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 22:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@Gallagerm: We don't do that. I don't know whether it's possible in VisualEditor. In the source editor it could be done by writing rowspan="2" {{Won}} in the first cell (do not insert a pipe) and removing the second cell (including the pipe before its content). But don't actually do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Add a bio for a person that shares a name with someone else.

How do I add a bio for a person that has the same name as someone else on wiki? Mybirdhouse (talk) 02:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Mybirdhouse: Welcome to the Teahouse. If you're absolutely inclined to write an article (not just a "bio"; it should be have encyclopedic value), you should read Help:Your first article. A reviewer will give it the correct disambiguator in parentheses should it be accepted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Mybirdhouse if there is already a Wikipedia article about someone with the same name as the person you want to write about just add what the person is famous for. I recently published an article entitled David Cory (author), to distinguish him from David Cory (politician) and David G. Cory. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Is there a way to suppress repeated requests for donations

Hi - I donate to Wikipedia every year but recently have noticed I am being "hounded" on every page I click on. I support Wikipedia and understand you need $ but is there a way to acknowledge your existing supporters via a cookie or something similar? Thanks 120.21.170.65 (talk) 04:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You are going to want to create an account, go into your preferences, navigate to the Banners tab, and uncheck Fundraising. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:13, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

conflict of interest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nelo_Group

I am trying to create the article for the company Nelo Group, as an unpaid contribution and freelancer. But in my last review I have a comment that says

'Does the author of this draft have any sort of financial or other connection with the subject of this draft? Please read the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy and make any required disclosures. You may ask for advice about conflict of interest at the Teahouse. If this draft is resubmitted without addressing the question about conflict of interest, it may be Rejected or nominated for deletion.'

What can I do first to improve this before submitting it for review? Lilbiz (talk) 04:13, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, Lilbiz. What you need to do is answer the question - yes or no. If it's "no, I have no conflict of interest", then all you need to do is say so on your talk page, and things can proceed (see WP:COI for what counts as a conflict of interest). If it's "yes, I do have a conflict of interest," then you need to put a declaration on your user page - see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#howtodisclose - and things can proceed. The important thing is to carefully consider your situation with respect to our policies, and be honest. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 04:38, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Please help with citations for a new article.

Citation and new article help I am trying to create a biography for a living person, Sir Edward Banayoti Sawiris. This is my first Wikipedia article, and I am lost. There is a suspect page about him that someone has published here as a revenge mechanism. The content is not accurate. I have references and fact-checked everything. Can anyone, please help me upload it? Thank you J.S. Wolfe JSWolfeAuthor (talk) 19:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Edward Banayoti Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 19:50, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, JSWolfeAuthor. That seems to be a contentious article, subject to much... contentiousness. As you've already found out, wholesale replacement is not an option. You can, however, make edit requests on the talk page (Talk:Edward Banayoti), backing up your requested changes with reliable, independent, published sources. See Wikipedia:Edit requests. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 21:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I note in passing that the long draft in JSWolfeAuthor's sandbox contains a plethora of details that surely came directly from the subject, and the entire draft has no inline citations to references at all. JSWolfeAuthor would be advised to study Wikipedia's policies on Conflict of interest, Paid Editing, Reliable Sources and Referencing. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.208.90.66 (talk) 07:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

What is going on? ha.wikipedia.org ??

I received an message from a bot, went to another language wikipedia that i don't understand, does this happen randomly?

https://ha.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dawit_S_Gondaria Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:45, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Dawit S Gondaria: Many other language Wikipedias will automatically insert a welcome message when you first access it while logged in. You don't have to worry about it. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 08:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

how do you stop the constant funding calls?

for people who are incredibly poor and can barely access a computer, these are really dismaying. has wikipedia considered looking into contacting wealthy individuals?

68.146.192.74 (talk) 08:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I hope no one is making phone calls to you soliciting donations for Wikipedia. If you are referring to the message banners that appear, Wikipedia has no way to know the financial status of users. If you want to suppress the messages, you may create a (free) account and turn them off in the account preferences. Wikipedia does not want you or anyone to donate if they are unable to. 331dot (talk) 08:56, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

What is autoconfirmed user?

--Spotanus (talk) 08:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Spotanus Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. An autoconfirmed user's account is four days old with 10 edits or more. For example, you are autoconfirmed. 331dot (talk) 08:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

And it gives you certain extra access privileges. For example, you have to be autoconfirmed to create new pages in article space, move pages, and edit semi-protected pages. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Crompton Greaves Consumer Electricals Limited is notable but rejected

Draft:Crompton Greaves Consumer Electricals Limited is notable but rejected. Company is registered and also listed on Bombay Stock Exchange and National Stock Exchange of India. Help to improve and resubmit.--PQR01 (talk) 05:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@PQR01 In the notability guidelines WP:NCOMPANY it says that being WP:LISTED in stock exchanges is not enough to establish notability. Please read the helpful comments left at the draft. In general at the Tea House, we are not interested in directly editing the 6 million existing articles or countless drafts proposed. Rather we focus on pointing you in the right direction in the sea of policies and guidelines. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

grey rectangles

Ok, I'm not a new user. But this question is best asked in context: ~~what causes the grey rectangles on the lines above and below my response to the previous question?~~ Maproom (talk) 11:48, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

They've gone. I'm still puzzled. Maproom (talk) 11:49, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Maproom: I fixed a syntax error in my reply to Bwoodcock that had inadvertently left part of my reply and yours as preformatted code. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 11:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Maproom (talk) 12:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Specifically, there was a missing </code> and then a couple of carriage returns. Bill Woodcock (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Why is my article deleted?

I write all by myself and also add news paper links. Bivash Maji (talk) 06:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Which article was that, Bivashmaji? --ColinFine (talk) 12:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bivashmaji: Your Talk Page has numerous entries explaining why various articles you created or contributed to have been deleted. You recently created Kumari Shailja without going through articles for creation and it will, in my opinion, not survive the new pages patrol because it is poorly written and does not demonstrate she is notable enough. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

hometown

12.247.77.10 (talk) 13:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP, do you have a question? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Signposts

I had subscribed for the signpost. Why did not I get it delivered. I have my the name of the page I want the signpost to be delivered at the bottom of this list. Why did not I get the post? Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 12:29, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Please be patient. You can see on the current issue page that the current issue is dated 29 November – two days before you subscribed. You will get the next issue. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 12:42, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@ClaudineChionh Thanks Claudine Itcouldbepossible ^(Talk) ^{(Contributions)} ^(Log) 14:26, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Where can I express my sincere love for the encyclopedia?

There are good days. There are bad, but overall, I just love you all. Thanks for doing all of what you all do. The hosts, the contributors. Everyone. Feel free to revert this after posting. Just wanted to say a great big ole "Thanks!" to all of you. ♥Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk)♥ 22:17, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Th78blue: There's no need to revert that. It's a great sentiment to hear, and one I can wholeheartedly support. We all have our off days and all have our "this is brilliant days". With your 9,000 edits to date, you've made a great contribution here. So, "thank you", too. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

@Th78blue: Thanks for the sentiment (there's not enough warmth here, sometimes IMO), and thanks for all of your work and time you've spent to improve Wikipedia. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 21:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks both of you! I love it here, and plan to stay. I was a LONG time wikipedia reader, but only made an account not that long ago. I am quickly racking up the edits though given how obsessed I have become with the whole thing we have going on here. It is addictive. The only discouraging aspect can be interacting with controlling or grumpy editors that feel they "own" a page or a process. Other than that though, I'm in love! ♥Th78blue (They/Them/Their • talk)♥ 14:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Limited permission to use a copyrighted image

Hi, I recently reached out to the copyright owner of an image for permission to use the image in a Wikipedia article. They said they would be OK for it to be used in the Wikipedia article, but wanted to make sure that it didn't involve "irrevocably releasing the source material" as per suggested by Wikipedia in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission I would appreciate some advice as to what my next steps should be with regards to this image. Should I just upload it under 'fair use'? Does that mean that the original copyright owner can be sure that they retain the copyright to the image, and it isn't under a free license?

For specifics, the article I am working on is Raoul Whitfield's. I reached out to the copyright owner of the covers of the Black Mask, a magazine he wrote for. I asked for permission to use a cover of an issue that featured an illustration of his story. They said OK but under the aforementioned conditions. I would love to be able to use the image for the article, but of course I want to make sure I am going about it in the proper way.

Thank you for anybody who is able to help! Kting97 (talk) 14:04, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Kting97. If the copyright owners are not willing to license the image under a licence such as CC-BY-SA, then the only way it can be used is under Fair Use, and their permission is irrelevant. But Wikipedia's version of Fair Use is very restrictive: if you wish to use an image that way, you must ensure that the image and its use meets all the criteria listed in the WP:non-free content criteria. It is possible that a magazine cover might be shown in that way. You will need to explain the justification in detail when you upload the image (to Wikipedia, and not to Commons, which does not accept non-free media). See image use policy. --ColinFine (talk) 14:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kting97 Welcome. First things first: Unless you want the illustration for an article on the subject of a photo, my understanding is that 'fair use' does not apply. Fair use images can be uploaded to English Wikipedia (not Wikimedia Commons), but I don't think fair use would apply to a picture of a magazine cover to which that person once submitted their work, unless the article was about that magazine. As ColinFine has just noted, context and purpose is everything.

Over at Wikimedia Commons (who have their own rules and far more knowledgeable admins wrt copyright), once an image is released under a Creative Commons licence, that release licence is indeed irrevocable. However, the author still retains the rights of that image, and thus there is an obligation on anyone using it in the future to credit the creator, even if they use it commercially. One way round anyone's fears of losing control of a high quality image is for them only to release a small, low resolution version (72dpi) for display on a monitor, but unsuitable for publication in a printed work. This is something that so few people seem to appreciate, and would often suffice to allay their fears of losing control of the main image.

My understanding is also that the copyright owner cannot email you that image with an "it's OK' for you to upload it" note for you. They would need to email it in themselves to our image volunteer teams (called OTRS) who then check it has come from a legitimate source, suitably licenced (including for commercial re-use) and they'd do the uploading for them. (Or you upload the image, get them to make an OTRS declaration, and leave a note on the uploaded image that an OTRS submission has been made)

The folks over at Wikimedia Commons seems to like hiding the details of this process away, so that nobody can understand it at a glance - or even find it in their Help Center page- so every time it takes me ages to find the guidance. Try https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Email_templates as the starting point for granting CC-BY licencing permissions. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 14:37, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFine for the speedy reply and for the links to the appropriate Wikipedia page, will read through those links and hopefully the image with my written explanation falls under Wiki's guidelines (and, more importantly, the law itself) for fair use. All the best, Kting97 (talk) 14:39, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Nick Moyes for replying to my question! The cover of the issue I specifically asked them about is an illustration of the story he wrote. I thought it may work similar to the cover of a novel. It was actually novelized but I also figured it might be easier to reach out to the copyright owner of the now-defunct magazine versus the publisher of the book (Knopf Doubleday). His works don't have separate Wikipedia pages, and would probably not fulfill the notability requirement for stand-alones, so I thought illustrating at least one of his works through an image in the article would be appropriate. Noted on the points about Wikimedia Commons and the image quality. I don't know if I would be able to convince them to upload the image themselves and explain the nuance of the copyright... my initial e-mail was based on one of the templates, which is how their questions about copyright and the irrevocable release of the source material came up, so I will try my best with a fair use upload with a low resolution image. All the best, Kting97 (talk) 14:56, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Style question regarding internal links

Hi. I notice that there are two ways people tend to handle internal linking: sometimes by replacing the link with a complete word, and sometimes by breaking the word halfway through. For instance, if I were discussion Parisian people, I could either link to the article Paris like so: Parisians or like so: Parisians. I recognize that Wikipedia special-cases the latter, to make the difference invisible to readers, so this is more a question of editing style than anything else.

Thanks, Bill Woodcock (talk) 10:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Bwoodcock: I think it's a matter of preference or convenience; [[Paris]]ians requires fewer keystrokes and (to me) feels more intuitive than [[Paris|Parisians]]. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 10:40, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Bwoodcock: I would say, just do whichever you prefer. If someone else cares enough to change it, then let them. Maproom (talk) 11:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

If you link plural to singular without 's' then I recommend [[woodcock]]s for source readability. Don't change existing uses to [[woodcock|woodcocks]]. Other than that, it doesn't matter much. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Swatantra maharjan

Swatantra Maharjan (talk) 04:07, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Sir, this is a ~~Wendy's~~ Wikipedia discussion page. Explodicator7331 (talk) 16:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

New productions not reflected on WP Netflix templates

Hi Teahouse, The templates of "Netflix original series and films" and "Netflix original ended programming" don't reflect newer films/movies and series shown on Netflix; an example being Barbie films from 2020 onwards. I've been a regular visitor on those templates and it's currently making me mad!! Please Help/Advise!!! Polygork (talk) 16:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Have you tried being bold about editing? If you feel that there's something that needs to be done, go for it. It doesn't matter what you do, so long as you contribute to the wiki in some way. Life is too short to be checking over your Wikipedia edit, just do it (without being reckless, of course.) Explodicator7331 (talk) 16:42, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Hyphen in blank space in table

If a cell in a table had is empty, should we keep it empty or add a dash or hyphen? Which hyphen should we use

Example:


This is an example	Age	Occupation
Henry Schrader	22	Police
Jesus Christ	46	-

Say Jesus Christ dont have occupation. Keep it empty or add dash like this?? Geanard (talk) 16:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Geanard My own gut reaction is to suggest that a hyphen (or equivalent dash) helps show that the creator of the table wasn't just forgetful, but knew the contents were not known. When editing tables with WP:Source Editor, it also makes it easier to search (Ctrl-F) for empty cells. I haven't gone off and checked WP:MOS for you - maybe someone else will - but I'd be quite OK to see a dash in place of unknown data at this moment in time, and assuming there isn't some prior established consensus on this issue. Hope this 'one man's view' is of some help. Either way, you won't have committed some heinous editing sin. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:45, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

why

Warfter (talk) 16:51, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Why not? ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Warfter Well, why not? Welcome, anyway, to the Teahouse - a place where we help new users with editing problems they encounter on Wikipedia. Do you have a question you need help with? Nick Moyes (talk) 16:56, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

CONFIRMED

How do you become autoconfirmed? You'vegotmail27 • TALK 17:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@You'vegotmail27 you need 10 edits and to be registered for 4 days, which you are. See WP:AUTOCONFIRMED for more info. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah: OK, i was just wondering why i am not, because i have more than 100 edits, and i am 4 days old. Is there a problem?You'vegotmail27 • TALK 18:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@You'vegotmail27 Your account was created on 4 December 2021 at 21:46 (UTC, I assume that is). Seems you've got about three hours to go. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh, HA! Makes sense. Time zones are always confusing lol. I'll go do some more wikilinking. Thanks for the info! You'vegotmail27 • TALK 18:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Wikignome Wintergreen thanks! I misread 12/4 as April 12 😅 and was surprised I didn't see anything in logs, but didn't overthink it. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:21, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Article on another language's grammatical topic?

Hello, I was thinking of creating an article on Avyay ―Hindi language topic. I had a doubt on whether it would be accepted here that we create articles on another language's grammatical topics (the topics must be notable to the native language Wikipedia and can be translated) here on english Wikipedia. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 17:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Lightbluerain Welcome to Tea House! There's no requirement for anything published on English Wikipedia to be published elsewhere. What are two-three best sources you have on Avyay to establish its notability? Otherwise, editing an existing article like Hindi (language) might be easier. You can ask for feedback at WP:WikiProject India too. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah, Thanks for such a kind response.😊 Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 18:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Untitled letter and signature

FYI

– Added header. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:30, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

38.124.151.181 (talk) 18:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

q

IP blocked for vandalism. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 18:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Question about sources and good research websites.

I am wondering where you can get new sources of info for Wikipedia articles chronotymp. (talk) 17:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Chronotymp. Take a look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. You can use any source with a green background. Cullen328 (talk) 18:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Chronotymp archive.org can be worth checking, especially if the topic has existed more than 20 years or so. You have to register, but it's free. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:54, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Requesting talk page access removal

Hello! So while browsing through recent changes, occasionally I will come upon a user who is basically on their last warning making an edit that is vandalism or unconstructive and I revert it, report them, and they get blocked, and then inappropriately use their talk page. Is there any specific place I should go to request a user's talk page access to be revoked? I don't think WP:AIV would be an appropriate place since the bot there simply removes reports if the user is already blocked. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:17, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf: You can contact the blocking admin and ask that they revoke the talk page access for the blocked user or another admin who is recently active [14] RudolfRed (talk) 19:23, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Alright thank you! Wasn't sure if that would be an appropriate thing to do or not. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Blaze The Wolf That's good advice @RudolfRed has given. I couldn't easily see which IP it was that you had reported and had then editied their talk page after being blocked, but any serious misuse of a talk page is quite likely to result in any administrator removing TPA if they see it. Good question. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: I was being rather vague on purpose (WP:DENY) but I had also forgotten who it was and had seen a blocked user/IP misusing their talk page before. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

AfC process

I accidentally created this article in the mainspace. A kind person turned it into a draft. But it doesn't have the AfC template needed for when I get to submitting it. Can anyone add the correct AfC template for me please? CT55555 (talk) 22:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:EWL_Management_Limited

@CT55555:

Done. For future reference, the template is Template:AfC submission, and you can read about the template's documentation there. There's a helpful shortcut to insert an un-submitted banner, which is {{subst:AfC draft|username}} (replace "username" with whoever created the draft). ◢ Ganbaruby!  (talk) 22:30, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Managing mischievous editing

About a year ago, whenever I made a change to an article concerning my daughter, and the circumstances relating to her death, it kept being removed. When I drew this to your attention via Teahouse, you looked into this, and stopped it. I am about to arrange a major edit based on an academic paper published in a well-respected law journal. I expect that this will also be taken down by the same person or someone sympathetic to him. How can I stop this? Also, my understanding is that whenever you cite a reference, it must be an independent source and not a blog website where an individual is giving his views or interpretations. This article has many references to a particular blog website, which I propose to have removed. Where there are independent sources that deal with the point being made by the blog website, I intend to use them instead. I get the distinct impression that references to the blog website are being used as a way of promoting the blog website. Is it ok for me to do this? Obviously, if there are any issues with my alterations where they do not conform to Wikipedia's rules, I am happy to amend accordingly. RobinEllie (talk) 20:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Death of Eleanor de Freitas Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 20:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1075 § Account creator and administrator for Death of Eleanor de Freitas

Hello RobinEllie and welcome back to the Teahouse. I've provided links to the page in question and your previous post here. This is the first time you've revealed that you have a connection to the subject of the article; that means you have a conflict of interest and should not be editing the article directly except to make small, uncontroversial changes. I've placed more info on your talk page. You can post concerns and requested edits on the talk page of the article (Talk:Death of Eleanor de Freitas). I'm short on time today, so perhaps someone else can address your other questions. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 22:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm back to ramble on a bit more. As far as protecting the article against "mischievous edits", RobinEllie, there are a number of options. If you see some suspicous editing, it's probably best you don't try removing it yourself (unless it's really outright, obvious vandalism), since you have a conflict of interest. You can:

A) Post about it on the talk page, perhaps pinging McPhail, since they created the article and seem to have an interest in maintaining it; they're also quite active and experienced, which is good. See here for what "pinging" is and how to do it: Help:Notifications.

B) Holler for help here on the Teahouse, but that's not the ideal solution, since this is a place to answer newcomers' questions and we don't want it cluttered up with content disputes or requests for admin action.

C) Go to WP:ANI if the disruption is persistent, but the process of reporting things there is... not simple.

D) Post on the page of a friendly, active editor you know and ask for their help.

Your choice; I'd recommend option A to start out with. As for the blog, that's something you should bring up on the talk page. Blogs are generally iffy but occasionally usable. McPhail might be able to help sort out whether this is a valid use (or replace it with different, better sources, since you say you can provide them). Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 23:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Block

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for me to post this, so if it isn't please redirect me. I was banned from making an account until 6th of June 2022 and I don't know why, since I haven't done anything wrong. The last thing I did was make a page in the greek version of Wikipedia, which was about companies. Could I get unbanned? I do not know what the ban is about, nor the previous ones. I haven't even visited these pages in the past. This is the information the sign-up site shows:

Your username or IP address is blocked from doing this. You may still be able to do other things on this site, such as editing certain pages. You can view the full block details at account contributions.

The block was made by ‪Johnuniq‬.

The reason given is:

Disruptive editing: per Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Request for extension of partial block

Start of block: 01:51, 6 December 2021 Expiration of block: 01:51, 6 June 2022 Intended blockee: ‪2A02:587:0:0:0:0:0:0/32‬ Block ID #12237660 If you believe you are seeing this message in error, you may submit an appeal on the administrators' noticeboard, on your talk page, or by UTRS.

Return to Japan.

Was it because I was editing the page too much? 2A02:587:340A:407A:11FE:F9DB:8ED9:8EB1 (talk) 21:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

It appears you've been caught up in a range block. Other than that I'm not exactly sure what you should do. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP! Welcome to Tea House! The instructions posted were good. You can either post an appeal at WP:AN if the block is mistaken or alternatively register an account, so that you can edit without restriction. See WP:REGISTER. Hopefully you can resume back to editing ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah: Registering an account isn't possible from an IP address that is blocked from doing so. Otherwise, if it's an editing block, a registered account doesn't bypass an IP address range block. You need the "IP block exempt" user right to bypass the block, and that user right is generally given only to trusted established accounts, not new accounts with no history. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

The block prevents editing of three pages (Blind Channel, Adèle Exarchopoulos, John Stamos). The IP is free to make suggestions on the talk pages of those articles but it would be much better if they were to find another topic. An account could be requested at WP:Request an account but any continuation of problems at those articles will lead to further blocks. Johnuniq (talk) 00:54, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

How do we evaluate notability guidelines for Not for profits?

I know WP:ORG says that Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following standards:

The scope of their activities is national or international in scale.
The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization.

Does it mean that it is similar to companies minus the WP:CORPDEPTH? I am in process to work on page Draft:Ayuda Efectiva. It has other problems too but I want to be first sure of notability guidelines. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 00:42, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Whether an organization is for-profit or not-for-profit is irrelevant. All organizations need to meet the criteria: significant coverage in multiple reliable sources (of at least regional scope) that are independent of the organization. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:29, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Search page history

Hi, does anybody know if Wikipedia has tools to search a page history using some keyword or a keywords set? Thank you in advance, Paul Siebert (talk) 18:42, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Siebert Welcome to Tea House! In general WP:Village Pump (Technical) may have more knowledgeable people. I found on WP:SEARCH this blame tool. Happy searching! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:02, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

thanks Paul Siebert (talk) 19:53, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Siebert Would WP:BLAME help? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Paul Siebert (talk) 01:35, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Psychology

What is humanistic theory? 105.112.120.205 (talk) 02:05, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. On Wikipedia, humanistic theory is currently a redirect to humanistic psychology. Perhaps the latter article can answer your question. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 02:36, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia's Donation

Wikipedia's Donations Why won't you donate to wikipedia? I know that I haven't even donated myself, but i'm only 13 what can i do? Nothing, and thats where you come in, if you donate to wikipedia then they can keep giving us knoledge. They have fed us with a bunch of knoledge, and what have we done? Nothing. Notice the loop? The word Nothing has been said twice! Twice to many. If you donate your feeding them energy to help support us! -HL 74.196.165.160 (talk) 14:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You are going to want to create an account, go into your preferences, navigate to the Banners tab, and uncheck Fundraising. Wikimedia Foundation does not track the identity of IP addresses, so it doesn't know your age, income level or whether you donated in the past. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

What is this supposed to mean, and why can't I see @Shushugah's response? Galacticitis (talk) 14:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Galacticitis Try again, my friend. I can see it. It's right above your reply. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:22, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh yeah! Don't know why it wasn't appearing then. Thanks Nick! Galacticitis (talk) 15:23, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Galacticitis No worries. Here's a first tip for you: If you reply via the 'reply' link at the end of someone's post, your own reply will be automatically indented and signed for you, which makes life quite easy. But if you reply by clicking 'edit source', it'd then help if you'd force your reply to be indented by place a colon (or one extra colon than the last reply contained) at the very start of your reply. This forces the text to indent one level, then simply sign your post with the four tildes (~~~~) as usual, which adds your name and timestamp. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Nick Moyes. I have never seen a "reply" link on this or any other page, and I don't see it mentioned at Help:Talk pages. Does it only work with certain skins?--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

“Reply” links can be enabled in Preferences (check the “Discussion tools” box, then click “Save” at the bottom to enable them.) —GMX🎄^{^{(on the go!)}} 16:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shantavira, have you activated the Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures Discussion tools thing? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Shantavira @Galacticitis My apologies to you both. I had so forgotten I'd set this as an optional preference, that I'd totally not appreciated it wasn't something automatically available to everyone. I suspect it will be in time. I must remember these things when I'm giving newcomer tips that turn out to be useless (it's for that reason I maintain a separate account purely for demonstrating Wikipedia to others, as it keeps all the default settings seen by a new user. I probably need to use it a bit more to remind myself what everyone else actually sees!) Sorry again, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

No problem @Nick Moyes. I've turned that feature on and you're right, It IS easier. Galacticitis (talk) 02:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Review my wikipedia draft (taking too Long)

Please review my Wikipedia article draft.I have been waiting for long . If anyone is free please, help me out.Thank you have a nice day! Garryishere (talk) 10:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

You only submitted Draft:Suraj Beera today? It has been rejected and will be speedy deleted as blatant promotion. Theroadislong (talk) 10:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@Garryishere: If you're asking about Draft:Suraj Beera, you can see that it has been rejected and will likely be deleted soon because Wikipedia is no place for advertising. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 10:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Removing answers you don't like and shouting about other articles isn't going to get your draft approved. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 10:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

OP blocked as a sock: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Andrewsuraj1. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:07, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Need help with my userpage

I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this, but I'm not able to add the Seven ages unsure and WikiProjectAutomobiles infobox on my user page. Can someone help? Galacticitis (talk) 03:19, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Galacticitis I was able to learn that posting User WikiProject Automobiles in double brackets {{}} to your user page will add you as a member of the project. I wasn't able to find a project called Seven ages. I hope this helps. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:48, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I mean to say the seven ages of Wikipedians infobox. Pardon the error,@Karenthewriter.Galacticitis (talk) 04:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I think @Galacticitis is talking about userboxes. I can link to Wikipedia:Userboxes, but I struggled with adding the ones on my own user page, so I have little sage advice to offer. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 04:52, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes. I am talking about userboxes but I misnamed it as infoboxes. I've got it now, so thanks @Karenthewriter and @Wikignome Wintergreen for your help, however little it may be. Thanks again Galacticitis (talk) 04:55, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

See history of restored redirected deleted page?

Hi. In this deletion discussion (Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nine-dimensional_space_(2nd_nomination)), participants refer to CSD criterion G4, which says the page is similar to what was there before the first deletion. How can I see what was there before the first deletion? When I go to the page's history ([15]), it seems to only go back to first deletion (redirect). Danstronger (talk) 04:14, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, seems kinda off-beat, but I'm new here so not for me. please wait for another answer,Danstronger. Galacticitis (talk) 04:31, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Maybe only admins can check? Galacticitis (talk) 04:32, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

"Deleted" pages are visible to administrators, etc. Below I reproduce part of this one. -- Hoary (talk) 04:38, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Nine dimensional space was commonly used by physicists in models exploring superstring theory - it was posited that 6 imperceptible spatial dimensions exist in addition to the standard 3 dimensions of length, width, and depth. Later, an extra spatial dimension was added once the concept of membranes was introduced and study of superstrings evolved to M-theory. To both the 9 spatial dimensions of superstring theory and the 10 spatial dimensions of m-theory, the temporal dimension of time was added requiring equations that handled 10 dimensional geometry for superstrings and 11 dimensional geometry for m-theory.^[1]

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^ Michael Lockwood (2005). The labyrinth of time: introducing the universe (Google books). Oxford University Press. p. 342. ISBN 0199249954.

@Hoary: Ahh, that makes a lot of sense, thanks for the sample! Danstronger (talk) 04:57, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

[pak-1] Pakistan Historical Society (1991). Journal of the Pakistan Historical Society Volume 39. Pakistan Historical Society. p. 146. During the life time of Ahmad Shāh Abdali, the Sikhs under Jhanda Singh and Lahna Singh succeeded in capturing Multan on 5th January 1772 {{cite book}}: line feed character in |title= at position 43 (help)

[2] ttps://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1262053/lebanon-saudi-arabia-the-story-of-a-family-rupture.html

[3] ttps://books.google.ae/books?id=oCeA299j1rsC&pg=PA77&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=hamza&f=false Page 340

[4] ttps://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA111290.pdf Page 57

[5] ttps://www.indiatoday.in/amp/movies/celebrities/story/ranveer-singh-reveals-the-real-reason-behind-dubbing-for-deadpool-2-1235815-2018-05-18

[6] Michael Lockwood (2005). The labyrinth of time: introducing the universe (Google books). Oxford University Press. p. 342. ISBN 0199249954.

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