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October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter
- October 2019—Issue 007
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News at a Glance
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Alphabet Soup: Explaining DYK, GA, FA, and More
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By request from another editor, this month I wrote an overview of ways that content is featured on Wikipedia. Below I have outlined some of the processes for getting content featured: Did You Know (DYK)What is it: A way for articles to appear on the main page of Wikipedia. A short hook in the format of "Did you know...that ___" presents unusual and interesting facts to the reader, hopefully making the reader want to click through to the article How it works: The DYK process has fairly low barriers for participation. The eligibility criteria are few and relatively easy to meet. Some important guidelines:
The process for creating the nomination is somewhat tedious. Instructions can be found here (official instructions) and here ("quick and nice" guide to DYK). Experience is the best teacher here, so don't be afraid to try and fail a few times. The last few DYK nominations I've done, however, have been with the help of SD0001's DYK-helper script, which makes the process a bit more streamlined (you create the template from a popup box on the article; created template is automatically transcluded to nominations page and article talk page) Once your nomination is created and transcluded, it will need to be reviewed. The reviewer will check that the article meets the eligibility criteria, that the hook is short enough, cited, and interesting, and that other requirements are met, such as for images. If you've been credited with more than 5 DYKs, the reviewer will also check that you've reviewed someone else's nomination for each article that you nominate. This is called QPQ (quid pro quo). You can check how many credited DYKs you've had here to see if QPQ is required for you to nominate an article for DYK. Good Article (GA)What it is: A peer review process to determine that an article meets a set of criteria. This adds a How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Anyone can nominate an article—you don't have to be a major contributor, though it is considered polite to inform the major contributors that you are nominating the article. The article is added to a queue to await a review. In the ToL, it seems that reviews happen pretty quickly, thanks to our dedicated members. Once the review begins, the reviewer will offer suggestions to help the article meet the 6 GA criteria. Upon addressing all concerns, the reviewer will pass the article, and voilà! Good Article! Advice to a first-time nominator: Look at other Good Articles in related areas before nominating. If you're unsure about nominating, consider posting to the talk page of your project to see what other editors think. You can also have a more experienced editor co-nominate the article with you. Featured Article (FA)What it is: An exhaustive peer review to determine that an articles meets the criteria. This adds a How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Nominated articles are usually GAs already. Uninvolved editors can nominate, though the article's regular editors should be consulted first. Several editors will come by offering feedback, eventually supporting or opposing promotion to FA. A coordinator will determine if there is consensus to promote the article to FA. For an editor's first FA, spot checks to verify that the sources support the text are conducted. Advice to a first-time nominator: The Featured Article Candidate (FAC) process is a bit intimidating, but several steps can make your first one easier (speaking as someone who has exactly one). If you also did the GA nomination of the article, you can ask the reviewer for "extra" feedback beyond the GA criteria. You can also formally request a peer review and/or a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors to check for content and mechanics. First-time nominators are encouraged to seek the help of a mentor for a higher likelihood of passing their first FAC. Good and Featured Topics (GT and FT)What it is: It took me a while to realize we even had GT and FT on Wikipedia, as they are not very common relative to GA and FA. Both GT and FT are collections of related articles of high quality (all articles at GA or FA, all lists at Featured List). GT/FT have to be at least 3 articles with no obvious gaps in coverage of the topic, along with other criteria. For GT, all articles have to be GA quality and all lists must be FL. For FT, at least half the articles must be FA or FL, with the remaining articles at GA. How it works: Follow the nomination procedures for creating a new topic or adding an article to an existing topic. Other editors weigh in to support or oppose the proposal. Coordinators determine if there is consensus to promote to GT/FT. Advice to a first-time nominator: There are very few GT/FT in Tree of Life (5 GT and 11 FT). Most of the legwork appears to be improving a cohesive set of articles to GA/FA. |
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Template:Taxonomy/Colpoda
Hi NessieVL. I noticed that the automatic taxobox template for the ciliate genus Colpoda (which you created) puts the taxon in the wrong hierarchy, all the way up to class. The template places Colpoda in family Glaucomidae, order Tetrahymenida, subclass Hymenostomatia, class Oligohymenophorea. The correct hierarchy (in all current systems...this is not controversial) should be: genus Colpoda, family Colpodidae, order Colpodida, Class Colpodea. As you can see, the entire hierarchy was named for the genus Colpoda!
The problem seems to have originated on the WoRMS database, and propagated automatically to Wikipedia. I suspect the mistake came from confusion with the common ciliate species Colpydium colpoda (which does happen to be a tetrahymenid in class Oligohymenophorea). I've written to WoRMS, and am sure they'll fix the hierarchy there. In the meantime, I'd like to correct Wiki's automated taxobox. I don't try to edit those templates, usually, because I don't want to break something and bring down the wrath of @Peter coxhead:. :D Am I being too cautious?
Here are a couple of references for the correct hierarchy:
- Gao, Feng; Warren, Alan; Zhang, Qianqian; Gong, Jun; Miao, Miao; Sun, Ping; Xu, Dapeng; Huang, Jie; Yi, Zhenzhen; Song, Weibo (2016). "The All-Data-Based Evolutionary Hypothesis of Ciliated Protists with a Revised Classification of the Phylum Ciliophora (Eukaryota, Alveolata)". Scientific Reports. 6: 24874. Bibcode:2016NatSR...624874G. doi:10.1038/srep24874. PMC 4850378. PMID 27126745.</ref>
- Adl, Sina M.; Bass, David; Lane, Christopher E.; Lukeš, Julius; Schoch, Conrad L.; Smirnov, Alexey; Agatha, Sabine; Berney, Cedric; Brown, Matthew W.; Burki, Fabien; Cárdenas, Paco; Čepička, Ivan; Chistyakova, Ludmila; Del Campo, Javier; Dunthorn, Micah; Edvardsen, Bente; Eglit, Yana; Guillou, Laure; Hampl, Vladimír; Heiss, Aaron A.; Hoppenrath, Mona; James, Timothy Y.; Karpov, Sergey; Kim, Eunsoo; Kolisko, Martin; Kudryavtsev, Alexander; Lahr, Daniel J. G.; Lara, Enrique; Le Gall, Line; Lynn, Denis H. (2018). "Revisions to the Classification, Nomenclature, and Diversity of Eukaryotes". Journal of Eukaryotic Microbiology. 66 (1): 4–119. doi:10.1111/jeu.12691. PMC 6492006. PMID 30257078.
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Deuterostome (Talk) 03:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Deuterostome: WoRMS is usually pretty good, but they aren't perfect. I can't find their source, "Warren, A. (2019). World Ciliophora Database" but you're probably right. I float around so I don't know the greatest best taxonomies all the time. If you have a good citation, go ahead and change it. Peter and PlantDrew and all them won't bite and seem to love discussing which taxonomy to use for things. I usually don't care as long as it's cited. Go for it. --Nessie (talk) 14:47, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I'll edit it as soon as I have a minute. I've been reluctant to meddle with the templates, since I don't really understand how the whole system works. The liason guy at WoRMS is out of town, so I'll have to wait a week or two for a response, but I really can't think of any rationale for including Colpoda in Glaucomidae. Deuterostome (Talk) 16:57, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Deuterostome: it only looks scary. You just need the parent, the rank, and a reference. LMK if you get stuck anywhere. --Nessie (talk) 17:01, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I'll edit it as soon as I have a minute. I've been reluctant to meddle with the templates, since I don't really understand how the whole system works. The liason guy at WoRMS is out of town, so I'll have to wait a week or two for a response, but I really can't think of any rationale for including Colpoda in Glaucomidae. Deuterostome (Talk) 16:57, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Deuterostome: I'd much rather editors fixed taxonomy templates than worry about getting the fix wrong. I'm always happy to help, and I really don't bite! Peter coxhead (talk) 17:30, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Brigette Lundy-Paine image
The image appears to be a copyright violation from http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Brigette+Lundy-Paine/Self+Portrait+Spring+Summer+2018+Front+Row/bBHb9MiK90y . The article is protected, so I'll ask you to remove it or provide some documentation that Wikipedia has the rights to use it. Thanks. 75.191.40.148 (talk) 04:40, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- @75.191.40.148: That seems like a discussion to have at commons:File talk:BrigetteLundyPaine.jpg and/or commons:User talk:An.Mosconi. I assume anything on commons is ok, if not they will remove it. --Nessie (talk) 05:05, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Letter from Koshigoe Photo
Thanks for finding the perfect Japanese artwork for the page! Siddelly (talk) 04:23, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Siddelly: no problem. Someone asked about the article on the WikiPedia Discord, and it hooked me and sent me down a rabbithole. I found mention that it has been set to music a few times, and want to look for that to add to the article in some way. When I have time. Keep up the good work. --Nessie (talk) 15:56, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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Due process, sneakiness, and the inherent rights of pages named "WikiProject"
Hi NessieVL. I see from here and here that you've noticed I've been looking through some old WikiProjects recently, and are concerned my editing may be problematic. I've responded to those specific cases at those pages, but I wanted to come here to get a bettter sense of what your concern is. If you just want to tell me where to take my edit button and shove it, that's fine too. So here I am. Penny for your thoughts? Ajpolino (talk) 17:14, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Ajpolino: You missed Template:WikiProject Pterosaurs. I've been spending the last few months going through all the WikiProject Tree of Life subprojects and related task forces. It started out of frustration in inconsistencies between talk page templates: Many would have image request parameters, others would not, making maintenance difficult. Some would even have image request categories, others wouldn't. I quickly found out that there are many tools and features that are important for WikiProjects that many did not have implemented, such as Cleanup Listings, Hot articles, Recognized content, Popular pages, Article alerts, Deletion sorting, and much more. None of the 80 projects had them all implemented, and most still don't. Some don't even have talk page templates. These all need different skill sets than just writing an article about a species of butterfly, and are not well advertised. It does not surprise me that few have surmounted all this. I can see many novices just giving up, or refocusing on articles and not the architecture of the project. It's a lot to do, and I think to remove that work because it is not complete, especially without discussion in the community, is a little too much newbie-biting (or atleast new-to-creating-WPs-biting). Granted not all of these projects need to stick around, but you never contacted the creators nor parent projects. Not everyone looks at the MFD feed. And I'm not sure how it is with other WikiProjects, but the folks working on content in Tree of Life projects seem pretty spread out and like to do their own thing. It's hard to coordinate when many members don't actively read project talk pages, but I still feel the bare minimum. --Nessie (talk) 18:36, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- @NessieVL: Ah, yes that makes sense. I was similarly frustrated with the poor and inconsistent guidance for WikiProjects. It makes the already-high barrier to getting a WikiProject going even higher. I recently have tried to update and make more concise Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide and Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide/WikiProject and would greatly appreciate your help and suggestions as someone who has recently struggled with the documentation that's around (the goal is to give those interested in starting or improving their projects a clear destination with clear, concise, current advice). I'm hoping if we decrease duplicated instructions wherever possible, it'll be easier to maintain updated instructions in the future. In parallel, I believe MarioGom is trying to update and clarify instructions for whatever WikiProject X components remain adoptable. If you're interested in that, I'm sure they'd appreciate your help there as well (though I don't think I've seen any ToL projects take up the WikiProject X tools). Anyway, in concert with that effort, I'm attempting to update the WikiProject Directory (there's an automated one as well, but Reports bot's task updating it appears to have quietly died months ago and a few posts on the operator's talk page have gone unanswered). The goal here is to make current projects easier for interested editors to find. I've been going through bambots' list of the ~2100 pages in a WikiProject category or with "WikiProject" in their name. That's how I've ended up at some of these disparate project pages. Sadly, as you'd expect, most of the WikiProject pages have fallen dormant. That's fine; no big deal. A handful of these pages are single-editor projects, i.e. a single editor created a page, signed his/her username, and then seems to have forgotten about it. My concern is that these are distracting/misleading to new editors. If I add e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Aquatic plants to the directory, a new editor might think "neat! That's exactly what I want to work on!". Then they'll go, see it's entirely deserted, maybe leave an unanswered talk page post, and decide no one at Wikipedia cares about aquatic plants. Alteratively, if they go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants, they'll find a community of editors interested in receiving them. With that in mind I've changed some draft project pages to redirect or moved to userspace (when the creator assents, e.g. here and here), or in a few cases brought to MfD (when the single contributor to the page was a now-indeffed user socking). I don't get some kind of sweet high from obliterating project pages. My hope is that by updating and streamlining the WikiProject documentation, directory, etc. I can make WikiProjects easier to start and maintain. Apologies for the wall of text. I'm happy to discuss this for as long as I can maintain your interest, and to re-evaluate my logic and methods if you feel it's appropriate. Thanks for your response. Ajpolino (talk) 19:02, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- (Short addendum): In response to your specific concerns, I've specifically left alone doomed-looking projects that were posted recently (Wikipedia:WikiProject TRIZ Ontology comes to mind, but I know I've seen others as well) with the rationale that I didn't want to spook anyone. If the page creators are still around, I post on their talk page first (I've left two examples of this above, two more are here and here). The only times I've redirected without discussion are when the page creator hasn't edited in several years (and there are zero non-templated messages on the talk page (sorry for implying you're an automaton), and zero other signatories as participants). Anyway, that's not to say you can't disagree with me, but that's my rationale. Happy to talk. As you can see, being brief is not my specialty. Ajpolino (talk) 19:10, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!
Hello,
Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.
I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!
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DYK for Longan witches broom-associated virus
On 12 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Longan witches broom-associated virus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that because photomicrographs of Longan witches broom-associated virus were not published, the virus was not initially accepted as the cause of the eponymous disease? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Longan witches broom-associated virus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Longan witches broom-associated virus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Happy holidays
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- @Interstellarity: Thank you. Season's greetings to you as well! --Nessie (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
nice page
your user page is very impressive. nice work!! (I came here from the 2020 article history.) thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 14:43, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: thanks. It mainly was to just keep track of things and then I got carried away with userboxes and topicons. Cheers. --Nessie (talk) 22:57, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for editing for the first annual Tree of Life Decemberween contest!
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| Thank you for all the hard work you did on Christmas moss, Christmas plants, Poinsettia mosaic virus, Poinsettia latent virus, List of poinsettia diseases, Christmas mistletoe, Anisocentropus krampus for the contest. Unless my math is off, you earned 12.5 points! I hope to see you in the next contest! --Nessie (talk) 20:18, 6 January 2020 (UTC) |
Invitation to the 2020 WikiCup
Happy New Year, Happy New Decade and Happy New WikiCup! The 2020 WikiCup began at the start of January and all article creators, expanders and improvers are welcome to take part. If you are interested in joining, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page. Creative editors like yourself seem to enjoy taking part, and many return year after year. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:49, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
OAbot improvements
Hello, as you are a regular user and bug reporter you may be interested in the improvements to OAbot last month: I fixed a few bugs and now the suggestions are more reliable. There is quite a big selection of suggestions right now if you open the OAbot random edit. Nemo 07:57, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Nemo bis: thanks for keeping this going. I’ll give it a whirl. --Nessie (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Let me know how it goes: it's always useful to have more feedback.
- Speaking of which, some pages in the queue have quite a lot of suggestions, but the "random edit" button proposes just one at a time (so that it can also load a preview of the PDF), for instance [1]. If you search the title you get all suggestions at once for instance [2] has 41. Nemo 12:22, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Nemo bis: it does seem to run smoother now too. I think 41 is a lot to do at once! Good to know that hidden feature though. Only suggestion right now is that I wish the PDF preview window were larger. I don't know if that's a consideration for mobile users, but on my desktop I feel it could be a little bigger. Then I could quickly scan the title and authors without having to zoom in. --Nessie (talk) 14:53, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
TheWikiWizard - January 2020
Hello, NessieVL! Here is the January 2020 issue of TheWikiWizard.
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DYK for Anisocentropus krampus
On 15 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anisocentropus krampus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Anisocentropus krampus was described in the same paper as other insects with monstrous names like Ganonema dracula and Anisocentropus golem? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anisocentropus krampus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Anisocentropus krampus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
--valereee (talk) 12:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Pseudoparenchymatous
Hello, NessieVL. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Pseudoparenchymatous".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.
If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Bkissin (talk) 21:12, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Bkissin: Wow, you don;t give much of a heads up there. Are your sure that was my article, and not just one I moved/edited? --Nessie (📥) 23:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hey NessieVL! It's probably the latter (one you moved). The notifications are a function of a bot, so when I G13 something, it sends the talk page notification to anyone who did a major change to the article (like moving or submitting). It happens to me all the time, where I'll get talk page notices about accepted articles or deleted articles that I never worked on. I think it's just something with the AfC plugin. Sorry to bother you! Have a good weekend! Bkissin (talk) 03:39, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Trying to get the proposal moving with some formatting, haha : )
--AGTepper (talk) 21:14, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Alga article
Hi, you seem to be the only editor doing anything much on algae at present, judging by the WikiProject. So you might be able to look at Macrocystis and Macrocystis pyrifera. The first claims the genus is monospecific; if so there should only be one article. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Peter coxhead:, I'm slowly working through algae; converting to automatic taxoboxes and checking that the taxonomy is current. Any brown algae that are still using manual taxoboxes should have some taxonomic issue that I didn't want to take the time to fix in my earlier pass (such as monotypy for Macrocytis). Red algae, Chlorophyta, Cyanobacteria and golden algae are also essentially complete for automatic taxoboxes, and remaining manual taxoboxes are likely to indicate some issue (I've been good about adding reference to taxonomy templates for brown algae and cyanobacteria, but wsn't in that habit when I did Chlorophyta and red algae). The next algal group I plan on working on is diatoms, in the next month or two. Plantdrew (talk) 02:53, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew: ok. My attention was drawn to Macrocystis pyrifera by an edit which caused the taxobox to break so that the article showed up in one of the tracking categories I monitor. So I fixed the species and genus articles to automated taxoboxes, and then noticed that there was an issue about whether the genus is monospecific or not. Not an area I'm interested in (far too much fern stuff waiting!). Peter coxhead (talk) 09:05, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Peter coxhead and Plantdrew: the WP uses AlgaeBase for taxonomy. I know PD you typically go much more authoritative with direct sources, but generally AB is pretty solid, in my experience. Algae have been slower to reorganize clades with modern molecular techniques as there are fewer researchers in the field than say, vascular land plants. So there is much more reorganization on the way I'm sure. --Nessie (📥) 19:37, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- AB usually follows the directs sources I cite (except perhaps for some splitting/lumping at the genus level). And there likely is more reorganization on the way. I prefer citing the direct sources since they won't ever be changed piecemeal, and they have a clear publication (not just access) date. If something new comes along, it should make it easier to see that a source with an older date is being cited and update accordingly. Citing Algaebase is perfectly fine, but it might not be quite as easy to see when an older Algaebase classification is being cited rather than the most current one. Plantdrew (talk) 06:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC) (edit) Of course, my reasoning here assumes that nobody would ever update the
|parent=in a taxonomy template without also updating|ref=, which isn't a realistic assumption. Maybe some kind of checksum for validation to flag changes to parent without changes to ref ala Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemicals/Chembox validation (mostly joking about this; seems it would be hideously complex).Plantdrew (talk) 07:04, 30 January 2020 (UTC)- @Plantdrew: of course, "updating
|ref=" assumes there's a ref in the first place... Peter coxhead (talk) 12:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew: of course, "updating
- AB usually follows the directs sources I cite (except perhaps for some splitting/lumping at the genus level). And there likely is more reorganization on the way. I prefer citing the direct sources since they won't ever be changed piecemeal, and they have a clear publication (not just access) date. If something new comes along, it should make it easier to see that a source with an older date is being cited and update accordingly. Citing Algaebase is perfectly fine, but it might not be quite as easy to see when an older Algaebase classification is being cited rather than the most current one. Plantdrew (talk) 06:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC) (edit) Of course, my reasoning here assumes that nobody would ever update the
- @Peter coxhead and Plantdrew: the WP uses AlgaeBase for taxonomy. I know PD you typically go much more authoritative with direct sources, but generally AB is pretty solid, in my experience. Algae have been slower to reorganize clades with modern molecular techniques as there are fewer researchers in the field than say, vascular land plants. So there is much more reorganization on the way I'm sure. --Nessie (📥) 19:37, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew: ok. My attention was drawn to Macrocystis pyrifera by an edit which caused the taxobox to break so that the article showed up in one of the tracking categories I monitor. So I fixed the species and genus articles to automated taxoboxes, and then noticed that there was an issue about whether the genus is monospecific or not. Not an area I'm interested in (far too much fern stuff waiting!). Peter coxhead (talk) 09:05, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for List of endangered and threatened animals and plants of Illinois
On 4 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article List of endangered and threatened animals and plants of Illinois, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that no fungi or algae are listed as endangered or threatened by the Illinois Endangered Species Protection Board? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of endangered and threatened animals and plants of Illinois. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, List of endangered and threatened animals and plants of Illinois), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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- @Bluerasberry: no problem, but thanks for the Wikilove. I was going to upgrade it with a {{speciesbox}} but i was on mobile. --Nessie (📥) 14:54, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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With this edit you managed to replace a citation with a link to a domain reselling page and obscured the original URI in the process. If you see anything come up with a title like "this website is for sale" then you should investigate whether there is an archived version of the actual content available on archive.org or somewhere (but be careful as they also often archive the domain reselling page and you have to get earlier versions for the content). Thryduulf (talk) 12:25, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: oops, sorry about that. Usually I do a quick scan after the bots work, but I guess I missed that. Looks like you fixed it though. Cheers. --Nessie (📥) 18:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Osowix I think it simply belongs in the Spanish language Wikipedia.....the article there was deleted with the following explanation:"Demasiado incompleto, mal redactado, con errores, sin ficha de taxón, sin referencias, sin categorizar. Más fácil hacerlo bien desde el principio que tratar de corregirlo." So I guess another try over there might be successful; the article looks kind of complete in the version posted here, and I guess it was mistakenly created in English mainspace. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 07:15, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. Shouldn't the new categories be "Merbecoviruses" and "Sarbecoviruses" rather than "Merbecovirus" and "Sarbecovirus"? Dekimasuよ! 16:12, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Dekimasu: typically the taxonomy-based categories are not plurals of the taxon name. It's really the categories like Category:Betacoronaviruses that are non-traditional. We don't have Category:Coronaviridaes or Category:Nidoviraleses. I realize that informally you can call members of Merbecovirus "merbecoviruses", but I think such a fine distinction would be lost on readers. It's not like Category:Chiroptera vs. Category:Bats, where the difference between scientific name and vernacular is so stark. --awkwafaba (📥) 16:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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- @Peter coxhead: Welp, their page says
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Hi. thanks so much for your edit just now, at Category talk:Conceptual species roles. I'm very glad to have your help with updating this item. by the way, could you please tell me what you think of the category itself? as you know, it is up for deletion. I'm totally to accepting any points or concerns that anyone may have on this. I was just curious as to what your own opinion might be? I'm open to any feedback that you may have. I appreciate your help. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 18:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: I did go look at the CfD for Category:Conceptual species roles ( 0 ), but I wasn't sure what I could really add. Are they like an Category:Ecological niche ( 11 )? --awkwafaba (📥) 18:45, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hello Awkwafaba, I tried making the COVID-19 Barnstar, but {{subst:User:NessieVL/Barnstar maker|your image here|Title of your barnstar|Topic}} was functioning as a redirect page that lead to page Template:Barnstar maker. I figured it out eventually, you need to get rid of "User:NessieVL/". It should be {{subst:Barnstar maker|your image here|Title of your barnstar|Topic}}. Thnx. Jerm (talk) 01:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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