User talk:Jason S. Goldstein

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Twitter endorsements

Please stop adding back twitter endorsements which are not considered endorsements. Also, to maintain civility, please do not use all caps in edit summaries or demand that another editor do something. Instead, try to work it out by means of debate on the talk page. Thank you and happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 20:26, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, they are! These ARE endorsements because they show support for their candidates in an election. Do you really think that only non-social media endorsements are acceptable? I do not. Second, I am so sorry for my remarks. I didn’t mean to frighten you. I just do not like it when a user removes endorsements in an unnecessary way. I hope you respect my opinion. Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 22:04, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I most definitely respect your opinion. In fact, I think we both share the opinion that Twitter endorsements are endorsements. However, per this as well as WP:ENDORSEMENTS, it is not encyclopedic and should not be added to Wikipedia. You didn’t frighten me, I just wanted to let you know that the way that you were debating on Wikipedia did not conform to the civility policy and admins would see this as a potential downside if you ever were facing a block. Just some constructive criticism. Once again, you can reach out to me if you need any help. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 23:11, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Why did you remove John Boozman’s endorsement of Tom Cotton again? This IS a reliable endorsement and should be not be removed at all costs (unless you do not want to see Twitter-sourced endorsements). Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 12:38, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

It was not a reliable source. It was a Twitter endorsement. Feel free to add it back if you can find a reliable source or an article verifying this endorsement. Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:59, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

This endorsement has ZERO reliable sources. I do not have an article citing this endorsement. Can you please leave all future Twitter-sourced endorsements alone if they have no reliable sources in your point of view? Thank you. Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 18:23, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

No, I will not leave Twitter endorsements. Per WP:ENDORSEMENTS these should not be included. It is not just my point of view. It is a policy for Wikipedia. Twitter endorsements will be removed. I’m happy to answer any questions that you have. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 20:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Also, another editing tip, when trying to get the attention of another editor such as myself, ping me or add to the discussion on my talk page. I will see someone is trying to reach out to me and will be able to respond quicker. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 20:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Do you understand this policy now? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 13:33, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

From now on, I will only add reliable endorsements that are not from social media. Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I hope you are enjoying being here at Wikipedia. Happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 15:01, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Twitter endorsements again

Hello! Once again, you have contacted another editor about Twitter endorsements. They are not encyclopedic and will be removed. Also, are you editing from a different account and/or IP address as well? Just wondering! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 23:18, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

No, I am not. Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 23:31, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I responded on Pennsylvania 2’s talk page Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 08:42, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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Am I in trouble? We should have not argued about encyclopedic and non-encyclopedic endorsements. Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 17:42, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

You have repeatedly been asked not to add Twitter endorsements which you keep doing. I can not impose anything on you but the administrators will see the situation and can impose a block if they deem it fit. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

I have to because YOU were asked repeatedly by me NOT to delete Twitter endorsements as they ARE encyclopedic! You are just making an act of vandalism, and now you told them on me?! These endorsements have NO other reliable sources other than twitter. I hope you do not block me. I am sorry for arguing with you and refusing to listen to you. I have a broken speech center, which makes it harder for me to listen to people like you. Jason S. Goldstein (talk) 17:57, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I have shown you this as well as WP:ENDORSEMENTS which both say they should not be included. You keep saying that they are encyclopedic but you haven’t pointed to a policy saying that they are. Once again, I can not block you, only an admin or User talk:Jimbo Wales can. I don’t get the whole speech center thing. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Jason S. Goldstein. Please stop adding endorsements sources solely to Twitter. Wikipedia operates by WP:Consensus. As per the guideline Wikipedia:Political endorsement, this Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 164#RfC on inclusion criteria for lists of political endorsements established the consensus that political endorsement require coverage in reliable independent sources before they can be included. (As well as 2 other requirements.) The guideline specifically notes This means endorsements should not be sourced solely to a Tweet or Instagram post, for example. (emphasis added).

If you wish this to change, you will need to start an equally widely advertised RfC to establish a new consensus. You should read the previous RfC before doing so, so it's quite likely any reason you believe this consensus is wrong had already been discussed and rejected. Until and unless this consensus changes, you need to stop violating it by adding endorsements sources solely to Twitter or other social media. It does not matter whether you personally feel these Twitter only endorsements are "encyclopaedic".

If you continue to make such violations, it's likely you will be blocked or subject to a ban of some sort.

Also please stop calling good faith disputes WP:Vandalism. Vandalism has a specific meaning hear on Wikipedia and it's requires an intent to harm Wikipedia. If someone disagrees with you on how Wikipedia can be improved, even when they are completely wrong about it or editing against policies and guidelines, this is not vandalism.

Nil Einne (talk) 11:29, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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I am issuing this warning in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator. You've been informed that Twitter endorsements do not meet our inclusion criteria. If you continue to add them, you may be blocked from editing. Guy (help! - typo?) 23:16, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

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