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Missing period in title[edit]

Shouldn't it be "St." or at least "Saint" in the title? St is inaccurate, no? --Sigehelmus (talk) 12:35, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"St" is the standard convention in British English (see reference). However, I think moving the title to "Saint Hubert's Key" would be a good idea. I'll go ahead and do that. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 23:04, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

source for this?[edit]

"The practice was endorsed by the Christian Church (and subsequently the Catholic Church after the Great Schism)" is sort of like saying "the consumption of bread was endorsed by the British Empire (and subsequently England after the American Revolution)". The footnote limits itself to "The Key was a seal kept by the Catholic church at special places where the saint was venerated and distributed to priests ...." I don't think this is much better than the text. "Kept by the Catholic church" and "endorsed by the Christian church" are not very reasonable. Yet it should be possible, maintaining a NPOV, to rewrite it. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 03:15, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The term "Catholic Church" dates back to at least 107 (Ignatius of Antioch's Letter to the Smyrneans), which is one of the earliest Christian writings outside of scripture. Unless referring to an Arian group or a group considered heretical or schismatic, it doesn't make sense to avoid using the term Catholic, and in this context "Early Church" is entirely inappropriate. St. Hubert is firmly within the medieval period, while "Early Church" is generally taken to mean pre-Nicea. It likewise makes little sense to point to the Great Schism, particularly if this practice was (as is written here) not widely done in Eastern Orthodox lands. "Catholic" is here the neutral term, as it is the term indisputably used in the period by those persons to whom it is applied, and cannot easily be confused with any other group. COCeallaigh (talk) 01:03, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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