Talk:Leo Tolstoy

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Nobel Prize "Controversies"[edit]

It seems clear that Tolstoy would be nominated for the Literature Prize - not so much for "Peace".

It would be an improvement to shed light on his Peace Prize nominations - why was he so-nominated?

Also, to lump all the nominations together - insofar as not winning any of them - is puzzling - as if the prizes for Peace and Literature are somehow identical. Jsusky (talk) 20:40, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I love how all these wiki pages on authors are written by people who never read them. Tolstoy was nominated for Nobel peace prize for a number of good reasons, including teaching Gandhi who he corresponded with, composing treatise on non-violence, teaching Martin Luther King (later, through his literature), renouncing his aristocratic materialistic life to teach peasants to read and so on.
Also, why is this “controversy “ in the opening paragraph? You know who else who has never won a Pulitzer Prize? Shakespeare. As if any of these silly prizes really matter in any serious way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1012:B142:18B6:480A:533D:F288:177D (talk) 18:47, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Credible source or exaggeration?[edit]

This sentence "For all the praise showered on Anna Karenina and War and Peace, Tolstoy rejected the two works later in his life as something not as true of reality." seems like is an exaggeration. the source provided doesn't seem that credible... has anyone seen an actual quote from Tolstoy on this? When did Tolstoy himself say this? 143.89.90.9 (talk) 13:56, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For reference, this was added in 2010 without a page citation: special:diff/362653603 czar 11:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I had a quick look at this. It is mentioned by Pavel Basinsky [1] "Tolstoy really grew ashamed of having written "War and Peace" and "Anna Karenina." This resulted from the "spiritual breakthrough," when Tolstoy disowned all his earlier works for the sake of his new religious convictions". rbth.com is not a reliable source but I believe the claim is accurate. I agree that the text on the article should be re-worded and a scholarly source should be found. Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:08, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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In Fodor's since at least 1996

"In his last years , Tolstoy even disowned War and Peace because its patriotic elements violated his new sense of the universal brotherhood of man"[2]

"He disowns War and Peace and Anna Karenina"[3]

"Author of two universally acclaimed novels, he later rejected these and various other great works of literary art as immoral."[4]

I've recast the sentence using Bartlett,[5] who cites Tolstoy's What Is Art? Collapsed some other searches above. czar 08:56, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About Tolstoy praising the Boxer rebellion[edit]

some other websites/sources say that actually he asked the Chinese to keep pacifists and non-violent although he was for the idea of Chinese being free from European influences and being independent as he suggested for India. I think the article does not explain that he wanted the Chinese not to use violence looking like he actually praised something like the Boxer rebellion (the Boxer rebelled in a very violent way, making many people lose their life, which could not be coherent with the Pacifists ideas and ideologies and ideals of Tolstoy). Therefore I do believe this passage should be better explained.

Here is the website saying he wanted the Chinese not to be violent during the Boxer rebellion: https://www.rbth.com/arts/history/2016/11/14/how-leo-tolstoy-supported-anti-imperialist-movements-in-asia_647491

Quote from the link above: "He said the Chinese people were undergoing a great and heavy trial but asked them to remain non-violent."

Also all the first part of the article about the Boxer rebellion is all relevant. 5.168.180.77 (talk) 22:48, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]