Talk:John G. Lake

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Very negative tone[edit]

Given the large quantities of positive literature and writing about J. G. Lake, the entire tone of this article seems one-sided.

I notice that user Barry Morton has made extensive contributions to this article, and also seems to be the author of more than one frequently cited reference in this article.

One of his works titled "‘The Devil Who Heals’: Fraud and Falsification in the Evangelical Career of John G Lake, Missionary to South Africa 1908–1913" would indicate he is personally quite biased on the subject of John G Lake. Pomke (talk) 11:46, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I really disagree with Pomke, on all three points. 1. The article is not one-sided or biased: read the complete article and you will see a fairly balanced lemma, which could have been much more negative if only half of what is documented in the literature is true. If you read the intro, you might even think the article is indeed going to be one-sided (but in the opposite way of what Pomke claims it is). 2. Morton made several factual contributions, and added many references to available sources in this article. 3. I was the first one to add references to Morton's work to this article (in June 2013), thereby making it less biased. Vysotsky (talk) 15:11, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with Vysotsky, and add that NPOV means that the article should be impartial in its presentation of the facts and opinions on a subject. If the facts and opinions from reliable sources happen to skew negative, that needs to be reflected in the content of the article. Also, I am not aware of any effort on the part of JGL's biographers and proponents to respond to Barry Morton's analysis. -Sigeng (talk) 21:48, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's for sure not like a Shoah article. But giving both (or more) sides would still be fair. There is more allegations against him as well in terms of fraudulent practices. There is also rebuttals. So perhaps look at both types of testimony, then. 105.0.6.188 (talk) 14:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

Cleaned up article; added photo and info box. --Mikhailovich (talk) 15:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:John G. Lake/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

This article might as well be a fairy tale with zero evidence being given for any of it. And the part about Lake would never lie because he was a man of integrity - you have to be joking me. How any person that considers themselves even remotely intelligent would put a comment like that on a wikipedia page is beyond me. But we are dealing with Christians here, so i guess anything goes.

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