Talk:Gigantism

Andre the Giant

I know it sounds like an oxymoron, but should Andre the Giant really be on the list of giants? Although the WWF claimed he was 7 foot 5, he wasn't actually that tall. His article suggests that he was 6 foot 11, a fact which is supported by one of the photos on his page (look at his height next to the 6 foot Chief Strongbow). He certainly wasn't, nor was he ever claimed to be, the seven and a half feet that this article suggests is a reasonable limit to be termed a "giant", Enlightener 00:51, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Andre the Giant lol you don't have to be over 7 feet to be considered a giant. I mean, a 6ft6 inch tall wrestler could be considered such when compared to an average 5ft9 man.

Now Pituitary giants are generally over 2 meters (6'6)and Andre may have been as tall as 7'1" when he was a young man. But by the late 80's and early 90's he was probably ~6'10".

Good Lord. If you ever stood next to the guy or shook his hand, you'd certainly refer to him as a giant. Nobody combined 6-11 - 7 ft, 400-500 lbs in as athetic a frame as Andre did. He was a miracle.

Andre the Giant is on the list because he has been diagnosed with Gigantism, Height isn't a extreme factor here.

I'm pretty sure that Andre the Giant had Acromegaly... 96.42.33.38 (talk) 03:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Gigantism and Acromegaly are the same condition occurring at different stages in the life cycle. Gigantism occurs before the growth plates in the long bones have fused while acromegaly occurs after during adulthood. It is common for someone suffering gigantism to continue into acromegaly once their bones fuse closed. They are both caused by the same thing, usually a benign tumour pushing on the pituitary gland.

Examples

Could the various conditions that lead to 'gigantism' each be illustrated with an example of a person who has or had such a condition - maybe people from the list at the bottom. For example, female basketballers Katie Feenstra and Lindsay Taylor are each 6'8", which would make them taller than Andre the Giant (going by some accounts of his height), yet they look different than he did; and Robert Pershing Wadlow looks different from Matthew McGrory or Sandy Allen. Various 'giants' obviously have different reasons for their great height, causes which can be apparent in their appearance. Katie Feenstra for instance clearly does not have any signs of acromegaly, while many shorter people do. I just thought it would be great if a more knowledgeable individual could add to the subject. - Matthew238 08:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Wadlow and Allen both had acromegaly, which is the most common pathological cause of extreme tallness currently known. I have heard that Andre the Giant also had acromegaly but I have no idea what the other folks have or what they look like. alteripse 13:54, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

The article says that Gigantism is currently not a used medical term. This might be true for some doctors and modern physicians, who might instead call it "Hyper-pituitarism." But the vast ammount of scholars, historians, and even endocrinologists have always called the condition "Gigantism" or "Giantism." Though this term might be considered outdated and politically incorrect, the term seems rather fitting by reason of the great size and stature that can be attributed to the condition.

And according to dictionary.com, the first entry for "giant" is: 1. a. "A person or thing of great size."

And since gigantism is "The quality or state of being gigantic; abnormally large size (dictionary.com)," I believe the term is very fitting--though perhaps not a clinical medical term, it is an accurate word for describing those who have the condition or quality of being a [physical] giant.

Andre was big ole boy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Totesdaddy123 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

List of Giants: Who do we include?

Is this list supposed to include only those who have acromegalic gigantism, or can it include those who are also geneticaly of equally height and size as those with the condition of Gigantism?

I see a number of non-pituitary giants in the list, and I see no reason to delete them unless it deviates from the article in which the condition of gigantism is the main topic.

Note: I deleted Anthony Robins from the list, only because he did not have the condition of gigantism or geneticly tall stature, and he seemed rather unrelated to the physical phenomenon presented in this article.

--63.224.226.148 03:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I deleted Tony Robbins, he is only 6'7". RealFerrari 07:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm 6'8 and i'm only 15 years old i am predicted to be 6'10 but i don't think i'll be stopping there My symptoms are; low endurance, being 6'8", a growth spurt of mine was 8" in a year, i do no't take any sort of enhancement products at all do i suffer from gigantism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GuitarHero1128 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Prevalence of Gigantism

Does anyone know the prevalence of this rare disease? Is it like 1 per million? I read that Acromegaly is much more common, affecting 1 per 15,000.there is a man that is 9 ft tall and 213 cm that was aguy that suffered from gigaantism there is a video of him he died in michigan when he was walking in a forth of july parade he was 22 when he past

Consequences/health effects of Gigantism

I don't know if it's an urban legend or a coincidnce or something that I have in my head, buy don't people with gigantism die earlier due to heart failure (it pumps too hard, hence, fatigued)? Jackpot Den 18:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Heart failure isn't about the "heart becoming too fatigued"! It's when the heart cannot pump all the blood around the body for a variety of causes...

That sort of nitpicking doesn't help anyone, the question was whether there was a correlation between gigantism and heart failure; if you couldn't, or didn't want to answer the question there was no need to hit and run with a peripheral "correction". And unsigned, too.... --APDEF (talk) 16:00, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

On Eric Gmeinder

That's me! User:Gmeric13@aol.com! I'm Eric Gmeinder! And even though, when I was two, the doctor predicted that I would eventually be 6'5", I happen to have exceeded even that height. Now I predict my own height to EVENTUALLY be 7'1". So until that actually happens, I'm going to remove myself from the "List of 'giants.'"

5-foot babies!

"It is not uncommon for children as young as 5 months to exceed heights of 4-5 feet." I call bullshit. Anyone know what this statistic is supposed to be?

I removed this line. It's probably supposed to be "5 years" but it's unsourced anyway. If someone can source it, feel free to put it back in. Until then, let's not cause a "monster baby" panic! GreyWyvern 20:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Treatment?

Is there any way to treat gigantism? Whether or not such possibilities exist should be mentioned on this page.RSido 03:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure, pituitary gigantism acromegaly can be treated by surgical removal of he pituitary adenoma or by one of several drugs that suppress the excess GH secretion. If treatment is provided in childhood, the excessive height can be at least reduced. If treatment is not provided until adulthood, the height is not reduced but at least many of the non-growth complications of acromegaly can be prevented or reversed. Unwanted extreme tallness can also be prevented in childhood by giving a year or two of high dose estrogen or testosterone around age 7-9 years. alteripse 04:37, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

short notes about an article.

I want to ask about short notes about an article. In long page of articles,it's kind of make me confuse about the important point. I need to finish my assignment as fast as poible. I hope you can make some short note about articles,so I can save my time.

Lanky shouldn't redirect here

I was just typing random stuff into the search bar and noticed lanky redirects here. This seems very strange to me; as far as I know lanky just means somebody rather taller than average and not somebody with gigantism. There are no references to the term in the article. I won't remove it because it's likely somebody has a good reason. --Tombomp (talk) 09:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I did the same thing, but I'm going to remove it - there is no good reason, as "lanky" is never mentioned in the article and has little to do with gigantism. Iro (talk) 17:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC) -Well, I tried, but I can't even find the redirect to put it up for deletion (which in itself annoys me - whatever happened to "be bold"?). Iro (talk) 18:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Here's the link [1] :) Tombomp (talk/contribs) 17:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I put it up at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2008_October_1#Lanky_.E2.86.92_Gigantism.only 6 months late... Tombomp (talk/contribs) 17:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Removal of abandoned table

I removed what appeared to be an experiment of a table at the top of the page; each cell merely contained 'Row 1' and so forth. 91.125.163.238 (talk) 00:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Lack of citation

I'm removing the following because it's not cited: "Typical adult heights of Americans of European descent to whom the term might be applied are 2.10 - 2.40 metres (7 - 8 feet). The term is seldom applied to those who are simply "tall" or "above average" - whose heights appear to be the healthy result of normal genetics and nutrition." It seems it was written by a giant trying to convince the world he or she is normal. A person can be less than 7 feet tall and still suffer from this disease. An adult woman who is 6'7" could obviously have gigantism. I certainly would not refer to her height as "the healthy result of normal genetics and nutrition." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aikaterinē (talk • contribs) 20:02, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Gigantism

Anyone knows on what height, gigantism starts? I see talking 6'5" and 6'7" guys talking about gigantism lol! I mean, at 6'5" you appear wow like but 6'5" and 6'7" is not giant status. I would say, real gigantism starts if someone is near 7'0" tall. Well, I'm 6'5 1/2" and most friends call me mini giant. Big Kingy (talk) 12:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Gigantism, de asemenea, cunoscut sub numele de giantism (de la gigas greacă, gigantas "gigant"), este o afecţiune caracterizată prin creşterea excesivă şi înălţimea depăşeşte semnificativ media. [1] Ca un termen medical, gigantism se poate referi la: * "gigantism pituitara", aceşti hormoni sunt oameni ale căror overproduce din cauza exces de hormon de creştere pubertate. Acest lucru este uneori asimilată cu acromegalie, dar mai exact, un exces de hormon de crestere duce la "gigantism hipofizare" (de creştere verticală) în cazul în care plăcile epifizelor încă nu au închis, [2], dar aceasta duce la "acromegalie" (de creştere laterale) în cazul în care le-au închis. * "Gigantism cerebral", de asemenea, cunoscut sub numele de sindrom Sotos, [3], care este cauzată de o mutaţie în NSD1. Termenul este de obicei aplicat celor a căror înălţime nu este doar în partea superioară de 1% din populaţie, ci de mai multe deviaţiile standard de mai sus înseamnă pentru persoane de acelaşi sex, vârstă, origine etnică şi. Termenul este rareori aplicate pentru cei care sunt pur şi simplu "tall" sau "peste medie", a cărui înălţime par a fi rezultatul sanatos geneticii normale şi de nutriţie. Alte nume oarecum învechit pentru aceasta patologie sunt hypersomia (în greacă: hiper peste nivelul normal, organismul Soma) şi somatomegaly (greacă; organism Soma, obiect somatos pronume ale organismului; Megas, Megalos mare). Mulţi dintre cei care au fost identificate cu gigantism au suferit de probleme de sănătate multiple, implicând sistemul lor circulator sau scheletului. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.115.89.52 (talk) 12:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

@Big Kingyl Gigantism is not height alone. X-linked xyy47 acro-gangantism 6ft1 245lbs very stout 51chest. central Precocious adult 13.5x10uc size 21. 10E men's shoes 2601:2C6:4D80:C40:50AD:5457:6EF6:75CF (talk) 09:29, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Non-human gigantism

Human "giants" are certainly an interesting matter, but the real whoppers are sauropod dinosaurs - no mention of them here????? Now, should we have a restructuring, with an intro, then a part on human gigantism and other parts on animals and (?) plants and mushrooms? Or should we have separate pages? Suggestions, please! I am well versed on dinosaur gigantism and could write that part. HMallison (talk) 08:44, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Sauropods were large compared to other dinosaurs, and other creatures; but were individual sauropods affected with a condition that made them significantly larger than other sauropods? Is there evidence of gigantism within the sauropod population? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 13:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

English Mastiff

Looking at the article on the English Mastiff (which can get to be the size of a small donkey), it appears that those dogs suffer from many of the same health issues that humans with gigantism have. The same could be said about the Great Dane. Would it be correct to say that these dogs are specially bred to have gigantism? Many small dogs including dachshunds have achondroplasia (the primary cause of human dwarfism). Would gigantism might also be a trait humans share with some dogs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.165.239.237 (talk) 20:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

The Friendly Giant

There should be some mention in the section In History, Art, and Literature of The Friendly Giant, a long-running Canadian-American children's television show. 174.91.1.132 (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Giant

They're called giants. Why isn't this article called "giants"? Kortoso (talk) 02:19, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Height limit

Is Gigantism 84-120 inches or 96-120 inches? Kenixkil (talk) 09:55, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Gigantism has no officially recognised minimum height so it is not our place to define a height in this article as that would be new information without a source. It is also a medical condition, so some extremely tall people do not actually have it (eg: Former NBA player Shawn Bradley).

Gigantism vs Giant

People need to stop trying to use this article for their own personal idea of what height counts as a giant. This article is about the medical condition Gigantism. There are people who suffer from gigantism that are even below 7 feet tall (some women). There are also people who are over 7'5" who don't have gigantism (former NBA player Shawn Bradley). The constant height reversions need to stop.

Self-help guru Tony Robbins also has gigantism/acromegaly caused by a pituitary tumour and he is 6'7".