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China[edit]

Do the illegal Roman Catholic home churches of China count?

I would say so, if the practice of Christianity was kept secret, especially if the Christian elements were 'hidden in plain sight' somehow.--Primalchaos 01:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Should the link to ChristianAgression be cited at the bottom? It seems to have little relevancy to the main body of this article.

I agree, that and the section on "Christian Aggression" have no relevancy to this article. This is Uncited material and the ChristianAggression link is not a legitimate resource as it is more of a hate site.--Friedricer (talk) 03:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Crypto-Buddhism?[edit]

I found this sentence curious:

Crypto-Christianity is the secret practice of the Christian religion, usually while attempting to camouflage it as another faith or observing the rituals of another religion publicly. In places and time periods where Christians were persecuted or Christianity was outlawed, instances of crypto-Christianity have surfaced.

I think that I have discerned in America the presentation of Buddhism (by Buddhist nones) in forms that look quite adaptable to forms of presentation that are found inside Christendom. MaynardClark (talk) 23:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Middle East[edit]

The article should probably include examples of crypto-Christianity in the Middle East. Virtually every country in the Mideast region has experienced a phenomenon of crypto-Christians, given that Christians often have problems with the level of religious tolerance over there. ADM (talk) 10:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why this paragraph was erased?

Crypto-Christians, as well as Crypto-Jews, appear in Egypt (as a result of oppression by the Fatimid Caliph Al-Hakim) as early as in 11th c. and in Morocco in the 12th c. under the Almohads rule. Many Crypto-christian communities existed in Middle-East till 19th century, as muslim authorities were satisfied with some minimal requirements of obedience by converts. From late 19th c. onwards most of crypto-religious groups disappear as a result of the rise of nationalism in the new Middle-Eastern states ^[1]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.205.231.40 (talk) 09:56, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I read the cited work, and the passage claiming crypto-christianity/judaism disappearing in the mid 20th century deals specifically with Iran in the context of the Iranian Revolution. It has nothing on the other Middle Eastern states. Propose a revert or a better edit. --Cabazap (talk) 03:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ M. Reinkowski (2007) Hidden Believers, Hidden Apostates: The Phenomenon of Crypto-Jews and Crypto-Christians in the Middle-East, Reinkowski, Maurus (2007) Hidden believers, hidden apostates: the phenomenon of crypto-Jews and crypto-Christians in the Middle-East in Washburn u.a. (Hrsg.): Converting cultures : religion, ideology of transformations of modernity. Leiden; Boston: Brill, 2007 pp. 408 -433

India[edit]

Why Crypto-Christians of india excluded? They keep their identity secret and notify themselves as Hindus to get opportunities of reservation.117.232.60.108 (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Christian-derived practices[edit]

I removed the following text from the article since it was left without citation for an extended period of time and strikes me as dubious. Feel free to find reliable sources on the topic if it is of interest to you! Sondra.kinsey (talk) 19:18, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The term can be used to describe practices, stories and celebrations that are derived from Christian beliefs but have been modified, corrupted or their meaning lost. For instance, the legend of King Arthur can be seen as crypto-Christian, with its concepts of a returning king and a virtuous martyr. Some small Muslim sects have rituals and feasts whose meaning is crypto-Christian, some^[who?] sociologists contend.^{[citation needed]}

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[1] M. Reinkowski (2007) Hidden Believers, Hidden Apostates: The Phenomenon of Crypto-Jews and Crypto-Christians in the Middle-East, Reinkowski, Maurus (2007) Hidden believers, hidden apostates: the phenomenon of crypto-Jews and crypto-Christians in the Middle-East in Washburn u.a. (Hrsg.): Converting cultures : religion, ideology of transformations of modernity. Leiden; Boston: Brill, 2007 pp. 408 -433

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