Talk:Charles Williams (British writer)

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Vandalism[edit]

Okay, smoking the neighbour's cat made me laugh.Ross Lawhead 12:45, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

book links[edit]

Pardon my lack of editorial boldness, but someone with more free time than me might want to replace those Amazon.com links with ISBN citations. ←Hob 06:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Location[edit]

This writer is universally known as "Charles Williams", and published under that name. The description "UK writer" distinguishes him from the US writer, and the spelling distinguishes him from the living UK writer Charlie Williams. Myopic Bookworm 16:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Religion paradox??[edit]

The article says:

he continually struggled to reconcile a lifelong love affair with Phyllis Jones with his Christian faith (he was an unswerving and devoted member of the Church of England).

However there is an even larger paradox in the article which passes undiscussed: If Williams was such a devout member of the Church (not just a rogue faithful) and wanted to reconcile parts of his life and faith (and Church), how is it possible to be both a Church devoter and a membership to a 'Christian' Hermeticist/Thelemite organization? I think this is a paradox, because of course several of those mystical societies-organizations can self-identify as Christian, but I am not aware of any Church that agrees with it. However the article says he was a member only temporarily but it should be made clear whether he devoted to Church after eg. leaving the Order ('repenting'?) or there was any explanation that could make these two 'compatible'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.203.198.103 (talk) 17:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Theology[edit]

Mr. Williams writes a lot about theology -- in particular, he emphasizes a perspective of "substitutionary" "Thou-for-I, I-for-Thou" theology (which is described by W.H. Auden in the introduction of The Descent of the Dove). This is briefly mentioned in the article, but never brought forth... If he writes so much about theology, and if his novels are so strongly influenced by his theology, why isn't a description of his theological beliefs in the article?

Some key things that would be of great help: 1) In what ways is he "in line" with Anglican and orthodox beliefs? 2) What are his emphases? (For example, his view of substitutionary relationships, which is expressed in multiple of his works) 3) What are his controversies?

Things like these would make this article much more well-rounded and really help flesh out Mr. Williams better. He is an extremely influential, but not very well-known, author -- and it would be vastly beneficial to Wikipedia (and to the Christianity project) if these things were better fleshed out! Thanks! Sir Ian (talk) 21:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Preferences[edit]

They said that was homosexual and had relationship with CS Lewis or JR Tolkein; does anyone know if it is true?? It should be part of the article definitely, that would be an important part of his life even if it embarrassing to his family now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.33.208.179 (talk) 22:48, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Lewis, according to several biographers, wrote to his father and demanded to be removed from his boarding school due to aggressive sexual attention from older students. He was taught privately until entering university, and maintained a strong, abhorrent view of homosexual behavior for the rest of his life. "They said" does not qualify as notability. You may easily find reports in the blogosphere of the homosexuality of Abe Lincoln to Zoroaster. You will have to find sources to support such allegations before they can be included in an encyclopedia. The Inklings were primarily male, mayhap exclusively male until Lewis brought Joy Davidman Lewis. Oxford University was primarily male for centuries. Lewis didn't marry until late in life, causing some to speculate, and all I know about Tolkien is that he married young, had several children, and stayed married, which is not definitive, but also not indicative of suspicion. Charles Williams might be the loose cannon, but Williams wrote about EVERYTHING going on in his life, and if he were attracted to men sexually, I believe there would be at least hints in the volumes of poetry, drama and fiction he published. Your sexuality is your own business, but if you come to Wikipedia with an agenda, especially in biographical articles, something more supportive than "they said" will be required of you. Thank you for your contributions. rags (talk) 14:02, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Public Domain[edit]

As of January 1st 2016 all works by Charles Williams first published up to 1945 are in the Public Domain.