User talk:Subhodeep Mukhopadhyay

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Hello Subhodeep Mukhopadhyay, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

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Demiurge1000

Subhodeep Mukhopadhyay, good luck, and have fun. ----Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:29, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User Comments[edit]

Good luck . Do you believe the Genome data realistic? Can you give any source of crude data?. What is Indo-European Culture? Can you give any reference?117.194.210.32 (talk) 16:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)sreya[reply]

Your text has changed a little my boy. There is no Indo-European culture.The direction of human migration happened at a time when there was no culture and also the direction signifies a reverse.Genome data cant relate any spreading of a culture.When in Europe the % of r1a1 is mostly around 10-20 within the Noridic population whom Hitler purposively named as Aryans( now it is a rubbish shit): the Indian concept of Aryya means Gentleman , The Elites or The Privileged , it has nothing to with Hitler's Aryans.If there is any truth then it is this that you are more closely related with the Turks , Afgans , Pakistanis , Tajiks ,Kajakhs. Why are you showing a sign of inferiority complex to deny your nearest paternal cousins.Come on grow up my boy.117.194.204.168 (talk) 16:14, 2 August 2011 (UTC)sreya[reply]

Hi Sreya,

Please note your tone is insulting and derogatory and violates wikipedia policies. Please be careful in future.

To clarify, I did not add any material related to "Indo-Euroean" culture or R1a1. In fact, as far as genetics section is concerned, the only change I made was to add "citation requests" and "dubious-discuss" tag - please see the revision history of the Bengali Brahmins page. In fact I would request you to always see the revision history before posting your expert comments.

Now to answer your questions, although I repeat that I have not contributed to "Genetics" section:

1. "Do you believe the Genome data realistic?"
Data and conclusions/ interpretations are two different things. Yes, I believe the data is realistic. It is taken from a peer reviewed paper published in a reputed technical journal. Conclusions are a different matter. 72% of Bengali Brahmins have R1a1 (data) and that is indisputable, but whether R1a1 is "indo-european" or "middle-eastern" (interpretation) is open to debate and is the least of my concerns and has no direct bearing on Bengali brahmins.

2. "Can you give any source of crude data?"
2. Refer to the link which points to the article by Sharma et. al.

3. "What is Indo-European Culture?"
3. I have no clue. Not my area of expertise. My focus is south-asian studies.

4. "Can you give any reference?"
4. Why should I do any such thing, when I have not even talked about it in the page. You may refer to the book by Edwin Bryant where he talks about the Aryan Migration versus Indigenous Aryan theory.

5. "Your text has changed a little my boy."
5. I am not your boy - so you can do away with your smugness and insulting tone whoever you are.

6. "About Indo-european or Aryans."
6. Bengali Brahmins page is not the platform to discuss this. If you have any references post them in appropriate pages following wikipedias policy properly - personal insults shall not be tolerated.

However here is my opinion on the subject:
a. I do not care whether Aryans were Indians, or Indo-european or middle-eastern. I am a Bengali Brahmin and that is all that matters to me. Whether my ancestors came from south Russia or Kasmhir or are indigenous Indians is absolutely immaterial to me.
b. The migration versus Indigenous is split equally between the two camps - there is a lot of literature available, please read them, before giving your expert comments opinions.

Hope this answers your queries.

Subhodeep Mukhopadhyay (talk) 05:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bengali Brahmin[edit]

Hi Some users are trying to add Baidya surnames as Brahmins. Kindly keep a check.