User talk:QuintusPetillius

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Hello :), i send this message about the chiefs of clan Sutherland. On his tombstone, John William Sutherland de Forse is mentioned as the chief of the clan Sutherland. The title of chief of chief of the clan did not revert to the Earls until Elizabeth became Countess in 1963. Prior to this, the Earls descended from Elizabeth 10th Earl could not be chiefs of the clan as they bore the name Gordon (they only called themselves Sutherland when the 16th Earl reverted to the name Sutherland, formerly Gordon). After the marriage of the 18th Earl's daughter to George Leveson-Gower, the Earls called themselves Sutherland-Leveson-Gower. The Sutherlands of Forse then became chiefs of the clan until Elizabeth took the name Sutherland instead of Sutherland-Leveson-Gower to become chief of the clan. But thanks for editing if i maked a mistake, have a good evening :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sutherland32 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I will reply later today when I get home from work. QuintusPetillius (talk) 12:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

I hear what you are saying but if you want to adjust the article with that info then you will have to find a published source to verify it. At present the article is to a good standard and well sourced. Also, I have seen sources that show that the 16th Earl was recognised as chief after resuming the surname of Sutherland and that this was to gain the clan following during the Jacobite rising of 1719 and this included being recognised as chief by the Lord Lyon. QuintusPetillius (talk) 14:44, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Notable Persons of clans

Your comment on not listing notable Persons is a mere opinion. I require a unbiased 3rd party in this matter.

It's not my opinion, it's fact. Just because someone has a clan surname does not actually mean that they are a member of the clan. This was discussed many years ago back in the early 00's on the Scottish clan's Wikipedia project page. You could put in a line to say for a list of people with the surname see MacPhail. Or you could put that link in the See also section.QuintusPetillius (talk) 17:56, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks, I'll check it out when I have time. QuintusPetillius (talk) 21:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Armigerous clan list

Good point. Done. Thanks for pointing this out. Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 17:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Robert de Munro

Hi Quintus. Just letting you know that I nominated your new article on Robert at WP:DYK.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 06:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Robert de Munro, 8th Baron of Foulis

The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Dean Monro

Many thanks for your kind comments. Donald Gregory is next in my sights. 45ossington (talk) 19:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for William Munro, 12th Baron of Foulis

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

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Request for help

If you have the time, could you possibly have a quick look at (i) the recent discussion at Talk:Clan MacNeacail and (ii) the reverts to which the discussion relates, and contribute in any way you think fit?

Many thanks,

45ossington (talk) 16:04, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your very helpful input. 45ossington (talk) 08:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Clan Uruhart crest

been a while, but I see it was done. Sorry, but not that active on wiki these days. Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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Marian civil war

Hi. Thanks for looking at this and working on the box. I'm not sure that it is quite right as yet. E.g., there could be two civil war boxes for Mary, Queen of Scots, one for her battles and campaigns 1561 to Carberry, "Scottish civil conflict in Mary's reign" including the Chaseabout Raid, and a "Marian civil war" box for events from Langside to the fall of Edinburgh castle in 1573. This latter period 1568-1573 when Mary went into England, is called the "Marian civil war." I'm sure you'll be able to find a solution for the boxes, I don't understand them very well.Unoquha (talk) 14:40, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Nice work with the cleanup of Clan Shaw of Tordarroch SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Foo

Given your work on many Foo Fighters articles, wonder if you could help on the Foo Fighters live performances article I made the other day - you can even move some info on the band article that you complained about to there. Thanks. igordebraga ≠ 00:59, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I decline to take up you offer. I don't think your article will last very long on Wikipedia. I mean are there other articles detailing other artists "live performances" ?, its not very Wikipedia-like. And besides its poorly referenced.QuintusPetillius (talk) 20:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Green Day discography discussion

Hey. As you may have seen, there have been quite a few editorial disputes on Green Day discography recently, but all editors seem to be doing is reverting each other continuously without anyone getting anywhere, and the page is thus very unstable. To curb this, I'm beginning a discussion here to try and come to some sort of consensus on the big issues I've spotted. Although you haven't been involved in the problems I bring up, the tireless work you've put into many rock articles and discographies in the past leads me to think your judgement could be very useful. I Am Rufus • Conversation is a beautiful thing. 13:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

edit war

The two of you seem to be voluntarily stopping, but I still feel like I need to make it clear: the level of edit warring that has gone on in this pair of articles is unacceptable. The next one of you that reverts in either article will be blocked. SuperVirtual, I draw your attention to WP:BRD: once an addition you have made to an article is reverted, it stays out of the article until there is consensus to include it. QuintusPetillius, I draw your attention to WP:3RR#3RR exemptions: none of your reverts fall under any of those exemptions, and being a reviewer doesn't give you a special status. I could, at this point, block both of you, but I will not so long as you both cease edit-warring and start discussing.—Kww(talk) 21:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Years

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Thanks, Matty.007 20:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

"of that Ilk"

User:Brianann MacAmhlaidh has suggested that I ask you this, as he says you have "a good book that likely covers the term somewhat: Collins Scottish Clan & Family Encyclopedia, a book endorsed by the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs."

My question is, how should "of that Ilk" be capitalised? My own feeling is that it should be "of that ilk", just as the word "same" would never be capitalised. But throughout Wikipedia, I see "of that Ilk". I would appreciate your view. Maproom (talk) 18:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

In Utero reissue

You know what? I suspected as much. Ironically I was the one who amended the reference to the Nevermind 20th anniversary reissues (pointing-out that there were multiple such packages as opposed to only one super-deluxe edition). Thanks for the heads-up. I'll see if I can track down an article to help back this up. LazyBastardGuy 18:51, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

It's been taken care of. I found a source within minutes (Rolling Stone) of saying I would, I was surprised at how far I didn't have to go (which of course only proves you were right). I don't know if I made it entirely too brief on the page, though, so feel free to touch it up if you like. LazyBastardGuy 19:33, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Hetherington is a Scottish clan

My clan name is Hetherington and my family is from Ireland and Scotland. I've shown this to my family and they find this a great offence to what Wikipedia or inaccurate sites saying about the Hetherington's aren't a Scottish name or Scottish clan. Our Tartan is shared with Murray. In the middle ages/ Scottish wars, every Scottish clan and tribe would have wars and battles between their land/clan/ because they didn't like each other. Hetheringtons were even with William Wallace fighting and killing the English soldiers who invade Scotland. In the Tudor/ Stuart era Hetherington was a Scottish Christian rebel clan against James the 6th of Scotland or James the 1st of England and England. The king hated these rebellious Scottish clans and ordered his men and convinced many other Scottish clans to hunt them, torture them and even kill them. Most Hetherington's hid all over in Scotland (like Shetland and Orkney isles). Some Hetherington's immigrated/ exiled to Ireland or Northern England like Northumberland and Cumbria. I never said it was a Armigerous clan. Like it or not its a Scottish surname, clan and Tribe. And also remember the Scottish borders kept changing. Hope to be pals in the future.

Thank you

Thanks for spotting my error linking to the wrong map for the Battle of Glen Shiel. I corrected the mistake and re-inserted the link. Best wishes Triptropic (talk) 15:22, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Weigh in on discussion?

Hi. Would you care to weigh in on this discussion? It concerns whether a particular review quote should be removed from an article. Dan56 (talk) 23:11, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Coming For You protection

I have put in a request for temporary protection from IP editors and hopefully it stops people from adding fake chart positions which help no one. Noreplyhaha (talk) 07:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Freskin

Regarding Freskin categorization, Category:12th-century European people is a container cat, so it can only contain subcats, not articles. Pick a subcat for it or remove the cat. --Slivicon (talk) 16:07, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

The problem is the correct category should be 12th-century Flemish people, which does not yet exist. I will make adjustments in due course.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:20, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm not a vandal!

Dear QuintusPetillius,

I hope you were joking here. I spent a lot of time yesterday undoing damage caused by that little pest, as you can see in my recent contributions. I'm glad that you detected that for some odd reason that vandal was correct on that occasion, but I was merely reinserting information, which cannot be called vandalism. See for yourself here. I should have checked the source first but I did that with other information he changed in other articles, and it was always wrong (besides, how could I know that the page watchers of the Green Day discography article would let that RIAA Gold certification for Bullet in a Bible remain there for several months, at least? Yes, that includes you!). At that point I stopped assuming good faith because, after all, that person is a vandal, and verifying the information of every edit would have taken forever. Here's solid proof that I was dealing with a vandal. I'm one of the good guys! Cheers... Dontreader (talk) 04:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

ARIA Charts (imgur source)

Hi, replying to your message on my talk page, as far as I know, there is no way to search the imgur site for specific images - you need to know the specific URL of the image you're looking for. I've only uploaded about 10-15 of these top 100 scans (guestimating) to use as references so far. There is a book published by Gavin Ryan, Australia's Music Charts 1988-2010 that I also use for ARIA peaks between 51-100, between January 1990 and December 2010, but I've uploaded some of these scans to use as a reference because it's more readily verifiable for people who don't have the book (which is now out of print, I believe, although the .pdf version on a USB stick can still be purchased). As for the top 100 scans, I only have those from January 1994 until March 1999, with a few others between December 1999 and April 2000. So far I have only scanned the 1994 singles charts, and a couple from later years. The ARIA Report was sent out as a .pdf from January 2001, and archived copies of this are posted here http://pandora.nla.gov.au/tep/23790 , but only from 2001. ARIA are in the process of scanning all of their ARIA Reports, which will then be available to purchase, but I don't know when they will have this project completed. Are there specific charts/peaks you're looking for?Nqr9 (talk) 23:22, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

I have one ARIA top 100 singles chart scan from 1992, which has 'Lithium' at #98, but shows its peak (HP = highest position) of #53 - I've uploaded it here http://i.imgur.com/zsGz9E9.jpg . This was its final week in the top 100; normally I prefer to source a scan that shows the week where it has fallen out of the top 100, to show that a single's chart run has ended (but sometimes they can re-enter, of course). I added Gavin Ryan's chart book as a reference for the ARIA peak on the "Lithium" page a few months ago. My State Library (where I photocopied these charts from 10 years ago) doesn't have any 1993 charts, so I don't have any showing 'In Bloom's peak. I do have photocopies of the charts showing Foo Fighters' peaks for "I'll Stick Around", "For All the Cows", "Big Me", "My Hero", "Walking After You", and "Stacked Actors", but haven't scanned these yet. I will do eventually, but it might take a while.Nqr9 (talk) 11:47, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

PS, I think I added Gavin Ryan's book as a reference to the Foo Fighers' discography page a couple of months ago, too.Nqr9 (talk) 11:48, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

British big cats article

Thanks for your diligence on that article, but just as a warning to be careful, the content you removed actually was from one of the reliable sources cited in the section just before - I remember reading it while trying to get the fringe junk out of the article last year. It's here. So that was a good faith edit even if not a perfectly formed one. Blythwood (talk) 17:33, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

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A page you started (Donald Mackay, 11th of Strathnaver) has been reviewed!

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I'm really sorry

Hi, my laptop started glitching last night and kept taking me to pages I didn't want to go to so I didn't want to mark a new page as reviewed when I hadn't intended to review it in the first place. I'm sorry for the confusion, I didn't realise it was already a reviewed page— Preceding unsigned comment added by Suonii180 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Clan Donald reversion

"Actually that's not more accurate, just because someone is Irish does not necessarily mean that they are Celtic." I agree; however it far too many instances I have seen Celtic used as a synonym of Irish. Why not just say Irish? Fergananim (talk) 13:29, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

"Revert to as per source. Wikipedia is about reflecting what the sources say. Learn the rules before editing." You're right. The problem lies in the source, which obviously has no idea when or where the term should and should not be used. Fergananim (talk) 13:31, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Alice in Chains discography

You didn't need to "explain" WP:USCHARTS to me. I edit charts all the time, and from our previous interactions, I'm pretty sure you know this, so I am absolutely aware of that policy and most chart-related policies. In fact, I corrected instances of Bubbling Under peaks being added to 100 myself several times yeterday. I even explained it in an edit on Disturbed discography. I was not finished with my edits to Alice in Chains discography, so your revert when I was restoring notes that were deleted five years ago and had no corresponding explanation for their inclusion for that period of time, which you didn't notice or fix yourself in that time except to come along when I restored the notes (and didn't add the Bubbling Under peaks) and revert me, with what I felt was a condescending explanation of a chart policy, was wholly unnecessary. I feel like you could have just left a message, or corrected in subsequent edits. Ss112 23:14, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Clan Macdowall

Thanks for your swift deletion. It's this kind of thoughtful considerate co-operation which makes it such a pleasure to contribute to Wikipedia. Keep up the good work! Clifford Mill (talk) 16:49, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

PS I notice you haven't deleted the alteration to the article Battle of Pinkie Cleugh. In your quest for authenticity, I think you ought to consider doing so. Please be consistent! Clifford Mill (talk) 09:36, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Re: Clan Swinton

Hey. Thanks for your edits. Understand re the sourcing. It's tricky with modern history due to sourcing requiring uploading and citing private legal documents belonging to my father. The official family website with the family trees confirm the information - but I think you'll find these sources to not be independent enough. What do you suggest? Best, Harry HJCSwinton 14:17, 16 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryswinton (talk • contribs)

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Origins of the Scoti Douglas family

I think that you comment Just because the founder of that family was a cousin of the Douglas does not mean the were necessarily a branch of the clan mistakes the point that was made in the Clan Douglas article. The pseudo-history story of the the mythical progenitor of Clan Douglas, Sholto, says that he had two, presumably also mythical, sons, William and Marius, who married into leading families in Piacenza, in modern day Italy, founding the Douglas Scotti and Scoti Douglas families. There are 17th sources that make the claim. See also The History of the House and Race of Douglas and Angus By David Hume. Your point about use of foreign language Wikipedia entries as sources is, of course, valid. Shipsview (talk) 09:29, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

The Douglas families of France, Germany and Sweden

I fear that I may be to blame for the edit wars happening on the Clan Douglas article. I suggested that the recent reversion of (unreferenced) entries referring the European branches of Clan Douglas highlights their omission from this article. Perhaps Equord and Tataral would like to rectify this? See Talk:Clan_Douglas You have suggested that a separate article would be appropriate for the Swedish branch. I disagree - at least for now. The story of the clan is poorer for their exclusion. Can we find a way to work together? Shipsview (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Edit Corrections to Killiecrankie and Glencoe

Thanks for explaining the context; I'd have been happy to do them myself.

I've always tried to assume good intent, I've put a lot of work into these rewrites, including extensive research using original articles rather than generic statements so perhaps you might want to reconsider the way you've phrased the last part of your comment. My interest is in the Glorious Revolution and the differences between the results in the Three Kingdoms, not obscure debates about Scottish clans.

Hope that helps.

Robinvp11 (talk) 14:59, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Edit Corrections to Killiecrankie and Glencoe

Thanks for explaining the context; I'd have been happy to do them myself.

I've always tried to assume good intent, I've put a lot of work into these rewrites, including extensive research using original articles rather than generic statements so perhaps you might want to reconsider the way you've phrased the last part of your comment. My interest is in the Glorious Revolution and the differences between the results in the Three Kingdoms, not obscure debates about Scottish clans.

Hope that helps.

Robinvp11 (talk) 15:10, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Rewrite of 45 Rebellion

As you know, I'm relatively new to Wikipedia editing so I wanted to make sure I do this the right way; my problem with the article as written is that it is over-detailed in some sections (eg the background etc) but more or less stops with the retreat from Derby. It also misses out the Aftermath; I've rewritten the Invasion part but I realise it's taken a lot of effort so I don't want to offend the original writer; what's the protocol for that? i.e. should I explain my concerns first and what for comments or should I just get on with it? Robinvp11 (talk) 16:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

1745 Uprising

I see you've removed the rewrite of Invasion of England; given most of the article as written reads like a cut and paste job (who says 'profess' these days) and manages the unusual feat of being overly detailed, while missing out the entire tactical background in favour of long lists of muskets and powder, deleting my edits on the grounds that 'it's worse written' and referenced is absolute tripe. Rather than quoting huge hunks from one of two authors, I even looked at original records - that might be more important than telling me I can't even do references properly (even Wikipedia is not consistent and I've written articles for published magazines, where this is how they were done). Again, if you'd said that, I would have changed them.

I have a degree and PHD in History; I've spent most of my life continuing that interest, I've written for published magazines and I started looking at this topic this because I've recently read three new books on the topic). That doesn't mean I'm necessarily right but I'm not some 18 year old and I'd prefer to be treated as a grown up; so far, I've been called a sock puppet, told I can't even do references properly and if you'd told me about not using non-Wikipedia links elsewhere, I could have done that without you behaving some infuriated teacher.

I started with a lot of enthusiasm but I'm rapidly losing it. I'm happy to defend and/or discuss changes but if you'd prefer to simply keep the article as written, for whatever reason, then tell me now so Having seen some of the petty back and forth on various Wikipedia discussions, I can vaguely understand your concern but I've simply displayed the fact I'm new to Wikipedia, not some bloke with an obsession about whether its McDonald or MacDonald. I want to make these articles better but I have enough stress in my life not to want that to be part of stuff I do for fun.

Robinvp11 (talk) 22:39, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

The key principles of Wikipedia are (per Wikipedia) collaboration and respect. I feel I've been treated with neither, which unfortunately appears to be a common complaint for new editors. I know it makes life a lot easier to provide responses to things that you've taken the care to make up yourself but;

What I did not say; my background means that I'm somehow superior. What I did say it is a topic I know something about and as result, I'd prefer to be treated as an adult, not simply dismissed like some 18 year old.

What I did not say the segment as written lacked sources. What I did say the content isn't very relevant (I've explained why on the talk page) and appears to be largely copy and paste from one book. The sources are irrelevant to the question of whether it's either useful or accurate; otherwise the implication would be that within limits, I can say anything I want as long it's sourced. That's ludicrous.

Wikipedia value of Respect; so far, on another page you've asked me if I'm a sock puppet, told me my writing is poor (based on a criteria you haven't shared), that I 'don't even know how to write a reference' and how difficult I'm making your life by linking to non-wikipedia pages, which I freely admit but could easily have changed myself if asked. It's not so much the arrogance displayed as it being utterly unnecessary but it reflects discussions you've had elsewhere (In these discussion, I like to check to see if this is a one-off or a pattern and the latter clearly applies).

Wikipedia value of Collaboration; you said several times the content is fine, without explaining why and you have yet to answer my comments on the Talk page (which I was told by you is the right way to have these discussions). You haven't told me exactly why my amendments were 'badly written' (yes, that does annoy me). You haven't disagreed with my references (some of which were orginal documents and rather than simply using one book, I tried to vary them); you removed them because 'I don't even know how to write a reference.'

Are you the author? I'm happy to discuss why I think it needs changing (collaboration) but if you're simply going to say no, it's great and set yourself up as the ultimate authority, then I'd rather not bother. If you only allow changes you agree with (so far, I've not seen anyone else comment) that's fine but how does that help Wikipedia?

Robinvp11 (talk) 11:42, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

This Clan Encyclopedia thing and "clan MacAlpine"

The problem I have with including text based on its entry about "Clan MacAlpine", is that "Clan MacAlpine" doesn't exist. Its not acknowledged by the Lyon king of Arms - the only official anything about Clans. And even the people promoting the concept admit here (end of 1st paragraph) that no-one acknowledges it.

And since the very concept - the concept that in their own words, you note, is not acknowledged - directly conflicts with the Siol Alpin - indeed, one might say the concepts are rivals - it isn't exactly going to be a reliable source about Siol Alpin clans. 80.5.30.32 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:50, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Right, first things first, Clan MacAlpin does now exist and is officially recognized by the Lord Lyon King of Arms who has recently appointed a clan commander. So while it does not have a recognized chief it does have an officially recognized clan commander by the Lord Lyon and is such an officially recognized clan. The point I was originally making was that the Clan Encyclopedia which is a reliable source states that there is no evidence to support the tradition that any clan is descended from the so called Siol Alpin. I have left the same message on your talk page. QuintusPetillius (talk) 09:16, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Follower

From time to time, I wonder why I have you on my watch list, and then up pops another interesting discussion. This time it is Clan MacAlpin. Thank you. Shipsview (talk) 11:07, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Clan Kennedy

"I am the original editor and that is what it says in the source being quoted. Wikipedia is about reflecting what the sources say." Then you need to get better sources, as the connection with the Votadini is unproven; Gàidhlig is the correct name of the language (Celtic is a linguistic classification); and Cunedda is plainly not 'Cinneidgh'. The rest of the article seems fine, its only these three points that stand out as wrong. Cheers, Fergananim (talk) 11:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

TomWatkins1970 sock puppet vandal

Hi, I noticed you have reverted a lot of recent vandalism on the Faith No More discography page. The pattern of vandalism - multiple accounts and IP addresses adding false and unreferenced chart peaks (the "UK Rock Chart", which I've never heard of before, seems to be their latest thing) to discography pages, and persistently doing so with new accounts and IP addresses - is characteristic of TomWatkins1970. I have dealt with this vandal for just over a year on Bros-related pages. I would encourage you to open a new sock puppet investigation, on the username page I linked earlier (check the archived cases for examples of their 'work'), so that they can be dealt with (again). It seems they have now moved on to vandalising discographies by rock/alternative artists, such as The Smashing Pumpkins, Faith No More, and Silverchair. Be warned - they often turn abusive in edit summaries, and even edited my user page at one point, with comments like I'm a kiddie fiddler, I've been in jail, etc. They are also incredibly persistent. Other hallmarks of their behaviour include random capital letters in sentences, poor punctuation/expression/grammar (writing as though English is not their native language), and claims of being a music/chart historian for decades (check the user page of EL Foz87, and also note the poor expression). I suggest you also request page protection and administrator assistance in dealing with vandalism if they persist.Nqr9 (talk) 12:36, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Clan Macdonald of Clanranald.

"(Even if you are correct you still need to learn the basics of editing Wikipedia: you are not allowed to remove well sourced information like this without prior disucussion.)"

If I thought it was well sourced information I wouldn't have edited it in the first place. It is a basic mistake that anyone with a little knowledge of Hebridean history should have picked up. At the "Battle of Corpach" in Lochaber c1470, Iain Garbh Maclean of Coll was killed in a battle with Clan Cameron. From that time, Maclean of Coll's patronym was "Mac Iain Abraich"/"Son of Lochaber John". Definition: MACKENABRY: In his "Description of the Western Isles of Scotland, called Hybrides; by Mr Donald Monro High Dean of the Isles" (1549) states that the island of Rum "appertained to MacKenabry of Coll" (Macfarlane, Geographical collections, 111, p. 280). This is merely an English rendering of Gaelic Mac Iain Abraich, 'son of John of Lochaber.

I am not going to correct it again, as you so freely admit, method trumps fact for many Wikipedites, and life is too short to be spending time arguing the obvious.Theirishslave (talk) 07:47, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Possibly of interest

You might be interested in [1]. The text has been entirely rewritten, but the reference remains the same. The edit summary suggests that the editor believes the DNB (the reference) to be incorrect, but it is still cited as the reference. So where does the new material in the article come from?
Makes me wonder what other obvious stuff like this is out there.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 20:37, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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Nirvana - Band Page

Hi. I will admit that my first two edits wasn't thought through all of the way, thinking that early band names can be aliases (especially when it was advertised on posters back in 1987!), but I am legitimately shocked that when I decided to add more clarification to a specific paragraph that detailed these early band names, you rejected the edit for "the same reason as before". Did you even read the paragraph before you rejected my edit?! Not only was I correcting the sentence (there is a historical error), but I was listing their other earlier names. The whole point of that sentence was to talk about the creation of the band's name! Can you please elaborate on the matter? I would love to know why it was rejected, specifically.

Clan Carruthers

Hi how can we discuss the content of the page in order that any add ins I put meet the requirements. I have attempted to reference the info I have added but been advised that maybe I am still contravening the purpose of Wikipedia.

Could you help as I really don’t want to cause upset just ensure it’s accuracy. For instance the crest is blazoned as a serephim volent proper, which is depicted on the arms of Holmains as either a cherub which is incorrect, or 6 wings with a head in the middle.

Currently there is a petition with the Lyon to matriculate the Holmains Arms if our chiefly line. Once accepted the crest and clan badge will reflect that. My understanding is also that the red Carruthers tartan will be made official of all goes well, but we have a ways to go and it will be evidenced.

Any assistance would be gratefully received. I am involved with the clan society supporting the petitioner and as I said would like to ensure the page, which is an important port of call for our family, remains as up to date and as accurate as possible.

Any advice will be gratefully received Bruce7169 (talk) 14:32, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I accept that it requires a secondary source and it will have. Both from the Lyon Court and the Clan website. It was the artwork I was talking about but I have to assume that you will be able to get that and upload it. The information will be evidenced and more importantly accurate as I am as keen as you that the site reflects the truth of who and what we are.

I thank you fir creating the page and for your tenacity in keeping it factual. Bruce7169 (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for thanking me. It shows me some appreciation, and I love it. Rock on. UnsungKing123 (talk) 20:11, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks Quintus, appreciate the hard work you've done with the Nirvana articles

Halpert88 (talk) 09:37, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Megadeth Australian chart positions outside the top 50

Hi, responding to your message on my talk page, I've taken a screenshot of the Megadeth entry in Gavin Ryan's 2011 book, Australia's Music Charts 1988–2010, which is based on the ARIA chart, here - https://i.imgur.com/fdOCTXU.jpg . This is from the pdf edition, page 184, published by Moonlight Publishing. The HP column displays the 'high point'/peak, with weeks at (WA) peak in parentheses if it was more than one. The WI columns tally the weeks in the top 100, top 50, and top 10, respectively. The EP column displays the entry position (an asterisk besides this indicates the release was the highest debut that week), and the Weeks2 Peak column displays how many weeks the release took within the top 100 to reach its peak. The Acc column displays accreditation/certification information (a circle represents gold, and a triangle represents platinum). This book covers chart data until the end of December 2010. As you can see, the only other single of theirs to enter the top 100 during this period was 'Symphony of Destruction', which peaked at #58.Nqr9 (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Nirvana

Can you explain to me what article content means briefly regarding the picture. Also, the picture I put should be used because it's all labelled and free to use?

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Frances Farmer will Have Her Revenge on Seattle

Sure! There may be some relevant info in Gillian G. Gaar's 33 1/3 In Utero book. Will check online as well. Halpert88 (talk) 19:37, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Clan Munro

I have put in a link to an article about DNA studies which appeared in the Clan Munro Australia. This is available online, though somewhat out of date.

You mentioned elsewhere the Munro of Lochfyneside family who were tenants of the Campbell chiefs in the 18th century. Genetically they are unrelated to the Munros of Foulis in the male line - they are group 4 in the project. Although their patrilineal kinship is of similar antiquity, it seems that they adopted the name Munro in the 17th C. when it became handy not to sound too Gaelic - before that they were McNorevichs or McInreochs. Again there are publications about this in Clan Magazines. Their closest male line relatives are called McCorkle who are of Northern Irish origin but one assumes the Loch Awe McCorquodales were somehow linked, being so near at hand. You are quite right to mention how sensitive folk are about the idea of descent from one clan or another. They are all genetically heterogeneous, and they always were. I gave a talk about this to the Neil Munro Society the other year (his mother was the Munro, of course, so not the same Y chromosome anyway) and a relative told me afterwards I had "upset her entire world view".

Let me know if you'd like more information.

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Nirvana image

Hi Quintus, I would just like to let you know that I didn't upload that picture. It was already in the gallery, so I assumed it could be used.

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Munro of Auchinbowie

Hello Thanks for acknowledging my recent edit. I wanted to let you know that we found the article a great help when writing the paper that I have cited, but as with many journals citations to Wikipedia were not allowed. I have recently made some more major edits to Alexander Monro primus and wonder if you have time to look these over.Papamac (talk) 10:31, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Drysdale

You commented We shouldn't be linking sept names to surname lists or surname disambiguation lists because it gives the false impression that all of those listed belong to the sept of the clan, which cannot be correct which I accept as a fair point. Apparently I should not have linked to a disambiguation list anyway! So double error! Ouch! Shipsview (talk) 10:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Douglas septs I do not think that the editor of the Clan Douglas page who reinstated the link to Drysdale was claiming that people paid Wikipedia. I think the payment claim refers to those who pay for details of their ancestors elsewhere. So, not silly. Poorly expressed perhaps, but not silly.

Can you confirm that it is your view that 'septs should only be linked to the relevant clan or sept page'; i.e. it would be OK if there were a Drysdale sept page? Shipsview (talk) 11:51, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I have answered on your talk page.QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:23, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Foo Fighters

Thanks. That wasn't meant to be permanent anyway, it was just a quick fix while I was working on The Colour and the Shape. dannymusiceditor ^oops 16:56, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I'll reply on your talk page.QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:59, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

please don't, I like to keep them in one place...I see you've acknowledged me and that's all I needed dannymusiceditor ^oops 17:00, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

The Reddit article was posted on Foo Fighters' official Reddit page and the photo provided is not fake. You can clearly tell it's Dave Grohl. That's as legit as you can be.

I'll answer on your talk page.QuintusPetillius (talk) 13:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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The Chantry School

WP:NOTNEWS and WP:MEMORIAL apply here. People listed in notable alumni sections should either (1) have an existing Wikipedia article or (2) be notable enough where it is plausible that they could have a Wikipedia article (i.e., many olympic athletes do not have Wikipedia articles, but per WP:ATHLETE are considered to be eligible). OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:45, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Fine, I will consider writing a Wikipedia article for the person in question in the future, given that it relates to the important issue of euthanasia.QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:48, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

If this is indeed a notable case within the context of some subcategory of euthanasia (e.g., Euthanasia in Switzerland), it might be more appropriate to incorporate information regarding this particular case into that article. I'm not sure that the subject would meet WP:BIO criteria. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:55, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

The man is notable as the youngest Briton to be euthanized and the subsequent calls as a result of his case for the British Government to legalize it. [2] QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:59, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

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Talk to Me (Nirvana song)

Re: "Opinion" article. Sure, let's get it done. :) Halpert88 (talk) 07:52, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Clan Mackintosh Sept List

The book Kith and Kin has the incorrect list of septs. Former Chief Lachlan Mackintosh of Mackintosh and his son, current Chief, John Mackintosh of Mackintosh have ruled that there are only 38 septs of the Clan. I have previously changed this and it has been edited and changed to the wrong list again. Please refer to https://clanchattan.org.uk/clan-mackintosh/

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Battle of Altimarlach

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The way I have it in the Battle of Mulroy article I did write it myself and did not just copy the prose. With this Article their is still a lot to be done.QuintusPetillius (talk) 15:21, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks!

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Above: my proudest Wikipedia achievement: getting this article not only in the Did you know section of the Wikipedia main page, but taking it from just 10 views on January 4, 2020 to 3,219 views on January 5, 2020 ! QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

MacLaren article

Greetings I agree with you completely as you might have seen. I have a lot of primary source material and support writings from Ronnie Black and Dr. Donald McWhannell (who have urged me to contribute to "Notes and Queries") on the MacLarens and MacLaurins which is a very different story from what is now on display. I am new to wikipedia as an editor.

Cordially

Hilton McLaurin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macrorybeg (talk • contribs) 17:10, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Some falafel for you!

I just noticed all the hard work you put into List of tallest buildings and structures in London, wonderful work in a tedious area, thank you. 𝒬𝔔 20:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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I have seen that you have corrected your mistake. Thanks.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:59, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Nirvana articles

Do you think more Nirvana articles can be created?Beatleswillneverdie (talk)

On Wikipedia, its only if a song meets the required standard of notability that an article can be created. There are not really many other Nirvana songs that do not currently have articles that meet this level of notability. Maybe "Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle" could be regarded as notable if enough information could be found (and sourced) to explain that the song was about the famous and controversial actress Frances Farmer.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

That song is very notable. Any other songs you would think that would be notable? Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

There could be others if enough sources can be provided to verify enough notable information.QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Would you want to create more nirvana articles? Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 19:51, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Frances Farmer

I have created an article for Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle. Check it out and see if it is good. Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 02:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Just a couple of errors I need to point out: the artwork is from an unofficial release so will have to be removed. Also, there have been two other versions released apart from the version on In Utero: an instrumental demo on CD2 of In Utero deluxe and another early demo on Montage of Heck - The Home Recordings. Otherwise, not a bad start. QuintusPetillius (talk) 09:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Even in his youth

I have created the article Even in His Youth. Check it out. Beatleswillneverdie (talk) 20:58, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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track listing

How do you put the link for the track listing on Milk It? DarklyShadows (talk)

I've done it. By the way I don't think we need anymore articles for Nirvana songs. Speaking from over 10 years editing experience on Wikipedia it could cause problems down the line. All it will take is for someone to quote some legislation and the whole lot could be deleted for being "excessive", including some of the song articles from before you started creating them. I wouldn't be surprised if many of them get deleted in due-course for being non-notable.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:39, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

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Leaving wikipedia for good

I am leaving Wikipedia for good because its to much stress with all the deletions going on and everyone snitching on me. You no longer have to ping this account every time you nominate an article for deletion. DarklyShadows (talk)

I did try warning you that songs need to meet notability criteria to have a Wikipedia article. I expect that Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle will survive the cull.QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:15, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

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Smells Like Teen Spirit

Hi, Could you provide the revision url ? If not I'm afraid you'll bbe reverted, Thanks, User:Davey2010 (talk) 13:59, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Smells_Like_Teen_Spirit&oldid=963293022 QuintusPetillius (talk) 15:01, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks for providing this, Having looked further I see it's been there since October 2019, Unfortunately I've seen many edit summaries similar to yours which have turned out to be false so before I made an idiot out of myself I figured I'd ask first lol,

Anyway many thanks for providing that link, Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:10, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Europarade

My adds are not wrong. Then you should do a fact check. The Europarade was initial started on 27th May 1976 on Hilversum 3 and was always a Top 30 because the DJ's then were able to play alll the records within 2 hours.

The Europarade as broadcasted by Dutch broadcaster TROS was discontinued on 25th. June 1987 on then Radio 3. So please check the facts about the program and the history of the program, the Dutch radiostation Hilversum 3 / Radio 3. Corsarijder (talk) 19:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I will reply on your talk page.QuintusPetillius (talk) 17:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

List of UK Dance Singles Chart number ones

Hi. My PROD’s of the UK dance and rock chart lists were based on the deletion of List of UK Dance Singles Chart number ones of 1988 via AfD. Do you think you should dispute that outcome? Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 05:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll answer on your talk page.QuintusPetillius (talk) 13:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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To be clear, since I saw you complain across multiple edit summaries, there is no obligation to format citations any particular way. Nor is link rot a particularly urgent concern on sources published today. Sergecross73 msg me 19:20, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I will answer on your talk page.QuintusPetillius (talk) 20:10, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

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You can see the overlap here. For example, "Her associates in academic institutions overseas came to her for their English book supplies. After the revolutions in Central Europe of the 1980s and 1990s, the demand for English books rapidly increased."; the bolded parts are identical to the source. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI help} 18:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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Lord Herdmanston

G’day. How are you? I am just checking if I have incorrectly mixed up the arms for this branch. In the text it’s sable for cross but i have read here Electric Scotland website PDF book indicate blue cross. Do you know if they changed upon marriage into the heiress of the Sinclair of Roslin family? Regards Newm30 (talk) 03:06, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Well, page 251 says for Sinclair of Herdmanston: "third grand quarter, argent, a cross engrailed, azue", that means that the cross is coloured blue, which is the same as Lord Sinclair, but in any case that page is referring to the Sinclair of Herdmanston arms being incorporated into George Home's coat of arms, probably through inter-marriage. Page 434 is basically saying that no coat of arms was made for Sinclair of Herdmanston in relation to him receiving Pencaitland as a barony. Then refers to the arms of Lord Sinclair. Page 465 refers to the Sinclair of Roslin coat of arms being "argent, a cross engrailed, sable". Sable being the colour or tincture (black) of the cross, and this would match with the book I quoted on the Lord Herdmanston page by Woodward in which it says that the Sinclair of Herdmanston arms differ from the Lord Sinclair arms in that the cross is Sable (black) rather than Azure (blue). So the combined sources seem to suggest that the Herdmanston arms were the same as Roslin. P.S it will probably be some time until I get round to writing all the articles for the individual Lord Herdmanstons and I also want to complete the articles for all the individual Sutherlands of Duffus. Cheers.QuintusPetillius (talk) 21:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. The heiresses of John Sinclair, fiar of Herdmanston, married into the Hume family, His brother William Sinclair, 12th Lord Herdmanston (fl. c. 1451) succeeded him in Herdmanstion, with Polwarth and Kimmerghem passing to the Hume family via the heiresses. In the Gelre Armorial Folio 65 (compiled between 1370 and 1414) the arms of Sinclair of Herdmanston are described as having blue tincture for the cross. Hmmm seems somewhere the tincture changed due to superiority of the family? Regards Newm30 (talk) 18:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

There does seem to be a couple of sources that refer to Sinclair of Herdmanston with a blue cross. If the source compiled between 1370 and 1414 says it was blue then it can’t have changed to blue as a result Sinclair of Herdmanston marrying the heiress of Lord Sinclair several centuries later. I think more sources will need to be checked though. QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I will try to track down my copy of Bruce McAndrew’s Scottish Heraldry book for clarification. Regards Newm30 (talk) 02:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Bruce McAndrew’s definitely states that the arms of Herdmanston in 14th century were azure tincture, as shown in Gelre Armorial (p.189). I will upload also and add reference. Regards Newm30 (talk) 06:55, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

In Utero

I noticed that you posted a question on the In Utero talk page regarding the anniversary edition. That situation has come up again. Please add to the discussion on the talk page. Yours, HedgeHogPower (talk) 02:58, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Please look at this [3]. This is the discussion to supposedly cut anniversary editions. I am reading comments that suggest people were expecting some version of a deluxe album to be listed... not for it to be cut entirely. The final three comments are:

"mostly agreed with you about the track listings, I don't think we should add extra editions in the articles as well, but I suggest we should keep only one version of the deluxe edition of the album, and remove the extra editions that are only available in iTunes, Target, UK, Japan and other countries."

"If there are multiple deluxe editions, and the track order is different, only one needs to be listed".

"I'm sure we can make allowances for listing a few bonus tracks off an otherwise similar edition if they're discussed in the article, right?"

I have suggested that this conversation be revisited. What do you think?. Am I mistaken? Please comment on the In Utero talk page, whether you agree or disagree.HedgeHogPower (talk) 00:40, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

It also appears that the discussion popcornfud had regarding the removal of anniversary tracks was simply that... a conversation. Among a few people. I think that - when proposing as big a change as popcornfud wants - that is, deleting anniversary tracks that have been listed for years - he should have started a Request for Comments. That would have attracted people from across the Wikipedia spectrum. With a larger, and more varied group of people participating.... that would give us all a clearer sense of whether people really want these listings here or not. FYI - I had forgotten about the usage of Rfc until I read this Slate.com article yesterday [4]. Happy July 4 weekend. HedgeHogPower (talk) 15:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

St Clair Pantlers of Scotland

Good afternoon, I was wondering whether in your sources William St. Clair, 6th Baron of Roslin and Henry St Clair were appointed as Pantler of Scotland? I was also thinking of moving Henry to Henry St. Clair, 7th Baron of Roslin. Your thoughts? Regards Newm30 (talk) 04:32, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I don't recall seeing that but if you click on the link for the page numbers in the sources that I quoted then you can check for yourself. Cheers.QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:08, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion

Regarding this, in the future maybe ask for support at Template talk:Cite certification? I was not aware of these sources and for sure the template should automatically use them. --Muhandes (talk) 13:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1033271893 and Special:Diff/1033271932

I am not sure why you say these are not in the source, click on ALBUMS below and you will see them. --Muhandes (talk) 17:25, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

No worries, have reverted it back your version.QuintusPetillius (talk) 17:47, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

No worries, I thought I missed something. --Muhandes (talk) 18:50, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

DGC Rarities

Heads up, I didn't mean to goof up your reference. I was doing a minor copyedit, and I wanted to add in an explanatory note. I goofed up the syntax, tho. That's my bad.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 18:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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Simon Fraser, 1st Laird of Lovat

G'day hope you are well. Thanks for creating the article Simon Fraser, 1st Laird of Lovat. Is this the same Simon that was "of Brotherton" and Sheriff of Kincardine during his lifetime? Regards Newm30 (talk) 05:52, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, he was indeed Sheriff of Kincardine. Please make sure any additions to the article are properly sourced. Thanks.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:29, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Nirvana - Rape Me music video

Good catch, and you're right. Thank you :) Halpert88 (talk) 05:52, 06 March 2022 (UTC)

Nirvana - Something in the Way

I agree, we need to get this done! Halpert88 (talk) 04:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

In Utero

have been away for awhile.. Just noticed that Popcornfud has once again deleted the 20th anniversary listing for "In Utero". I think it is wrong. But I see you have not put it back. Please advise with your thoughts. HedgeHogPower (talk) 00:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Separate tables for charts in different years

In response to this edit summary of yours, I know. I insist on doing this when other editors don't, so you don't need to tell me this or direct it at me. However, the song only began charting in 2020. With less than a two-year gap between their entries, most of the time I wouldn't be so insistent. If you want to, be my guest, I don't care. That being said, I hope you maintain the two separate tables even when IP editors attempt to combine them (because they do, and they will), and note that separate wikitables, even within the same section, need their own distinct captions (MOS:TABLECAPTION). One caption at the top of the first does not suffice. Thanks. Ss112 03:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey, you can count on me to maintain the two chart tables for Something in the Way. By the way, I note your recent edits to the Other charted and certified songs section of the Nirvana discography page. However, there is a mix of the 2020 and 2022 peaks for Something in the Way. So we may need to come up with a way to either list both the 2020 and 2022 peaks or just list the highest peaks which are from 2022. Cheers. QuintusPetillius (talk) 16:11, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't think it particularly matters on Nirvana's discography, because we wouldn't have duplicate entries for one song. That being said, I note you added a "verifiable" Australian chart citation. The ARIA Report did and does not need a back-up source and never has. It is verifiable and absolutely fine to cite on its own. I think you meant a source editors can readily access because the ARIA Report is only available to subscribers. Even still, no other editor besides yourself has had an issue with needing to find a source others can access as if there's some doubt about the peaks. I know it's probably not a concern or the reason why you added an additional source, but I've been a Wikipedia editor since 2006. I add all sorts of countries' chart peaks—I don't make up chart positions for thrills and deliberately cite sources that others can't readily access. It's just that most of the time there's no other way to source Australian peaks from 51–100 as no news source reports on them anymore. Ss112 06:20, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Firstly, one of your points above I did not address first time round, although only a two year gap between the two chart tables, and I have seen plenty of combined more years as examples on Wikipedia, I was referring to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Record charts which shows separate tables just one year apart, 2006 and 2007. Regarding the readable source for the Australian peak, while I accept that the ARIA report is acceptable and is no different to citing a book on Wikipedia, when it comes to chart positions there have been editors who have chosen to falsify them. I am not accusing you of this but it is better if there is a source readers can readily access and I have seen many other editors add them. However, I will not revert and put it back but if in future the peak/source is challenged then the readable news source could be added to verify. QuintusPetillius (talk) 09:50, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Articles like the Nirvana one you cited are going to be few and far between, I think. Post-2020, it's quite rare for any Australian news source to talk about positions lower than 50 as that's when ARIA changed how and when they delivered their report. News sources could no longer get it early and write articles on it, and ARIA decided that they essentially wanted it to be a paid thing. Ss112 05:14, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Something in the Way

I have no intention of reverting you, but I am genuinely confused as to why you would want to use a template that directs the individual here, instead of here. yawaraey (talk) 01:35, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I did say in the edit summary that changing it to the template that links to the chart date is one option which is what Ss112 has now done. Regarding the revert, I refer to 1) Wikipedia:Record charts "It is recommended that you use the single chart template where possible". 2) Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Record charts "The singlechart template is available for formatting chart tables for single articles. The use of the macro is strongly encouraged". QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:06, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Quintus, you didn't need to post this exact thing to my talk page as well. I did not have an issue with your revert of Yawaraey, my issue was with the link being more specific, which as you know by now I changed. I don't know why you're quoting the preferred use of Template:Single chart at me. I've used the template literally hundreds of thousands of times. Ss112 13:41, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

You asked a question in your edit summary (?). I answered it. QuintusPetillius (talk) 14:44, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't believe you did answer it—you went on a tangent about the use of single chart templates to me. I have always preferred using the template myself and if you know my edits, that was never in question. The edit I made had nothing to do with why you reverted Yawaraey. If anything, I was questioning—rhetorically, I might add—why you would not use the "UK" single chart template (with date= as a required parameter) so that it shows the chart position directly instead of "UKsinglesbyname", which links to a search result page, so that a user has to click on "Nirvana" so that then they can see the chart position. I hope that clears it up. This message is to clarify, not a wish to continue this discussion. Thank you. Ss112 15:30, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hey, this is something that I've found rather odd regarding the Finnish pdf chart. Apparently, I've come across the article Last Christmas, and since it's a Christmas song, it's one of the very old songs to keep reappearing on the charts (especially at the end of the year); unsurprisingly, HumanxAnthro included the pdf chart to that song with the currently active chart, one thing that got me confused is that peaks on the pdf chart doesn't align with the current active chart. For example, the sales peaks, which are on the middle-hand column (see page 280), states the song peaked at no. 1 on the sales chart, but if you check the current website, it states the song peaked at no. 2 on the sales on week 52, 2019 (2 years before this pdf was published), and same thing goes with airplay chart. For what it's worth, under the title of song in the pdf, there's a note written in Finnish which roughly translates to "best single and stream position from 2018, radio position from 2011", also it's important to note that on the right-hand column of the table states the song entered the Finnish charts on the week of 12, 1984. Could those peaks be reached during that time? I was about to remove the pdf chart but I got hesitated, the prev. discussion got me confused and couldn't understand what was the consensus that was established behind it, since you were involved in that discussion, what's your thoughts on it? Moh8213 (talk) 20:26, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi, my guess is that the original release back in the 1980s was number 1. Although this PDF has only been around for a couple of years, there is a published book from 2003 for the Finnish charts and the PDF is basically a mirror of the book. The way the information is laid out is identical and peaks for that era the same. The book is: Pennanen, Timo (2003). Sisältää hitin: levyt ja esittäjät Suomen musiikkilistoilla vuodesta 1972 (in Finnish). Otava Publishing Company Ltd. ISBN 951-1-21053-X. Cheers. QuintusPetillius (talk) 17:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the response! Another discovery that might seem noteworthy is that HumanxAnthro repeatedly stated that the Rumba (hittiälistalla) chart was a combo of sales and airplay, but if you check page 4 of the pdf, you'll see on the bottom right corner there are three notes, the last one lists the 50 hittiä/Suomen Radiolista as a radio chart. And if you check page 5, you'll see the instructions for listing the singles and if you look at rule number 9, it translates to "The green bottom has the highest ranking on the 50 hits list, which combined several popularity meters and which was published in Rumba from 1992 to 2007. Its scoring was the basis for the entire system used in this directory." If you notice they didn't explicitly say that they combined radio and sales on the chart. Another damning evidence is that some singles that have charted on the rumba chart which according to HumanxAnthro is a "sales and airplay" chart, but yet they never charted on the singles sales chart. Logically, how can a single chart on the "sales and airplay" chart but not on the sales chart? It seems rather evident Rumba never had any association with IFPI Finland, and it seems IFPI Finland never wanted their chart to include "airplay" on it, in fact they only started their own radio airplay chart back in 2013. Either way I've already removed those peaks. Regards. Moh8213 (talk) 19:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

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Please explain why you reverted my two edits correcting St. Clair to Sinclair for Oliver Sinclair of Roslin. There is no substantive evidence to demonstrate that the Sinclairs of Roslin ever spelt their surname St. Clair. Moreover, it is patently evident that Oliver's father's surname was spelt Sinclair so why on earth would it change? Or are you just reverting things for the sake of it? A bit like a vandal. 09:24, 7 June 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:B617:7D01:B962:343:23F0:EBA6 (talk)

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Hey again. I ask this as a completely honest question, and in no way any sort of accusation or insinuation of you doing anything wrong: Do you have any idea keep calling some of those Foo Fighters cover arts you've added fake? I have literally no idea what they should be, I just find it rare for there to be much dispute on things like this. If there's something I'm missing, I'd be interested in hearing it. Otherwise, no big deal. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 17:09, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, regarding Waiting on a War which is the one that is contested, I have checked out the source which is www.ultratop.be and it does seem to be pretty reliable on these and it is an official chart provider. I don't think they have just taken a screen snippet from a random website, although I cannot find either any websites where it could have been unofficially posted and taken from by ultratop.be or any news sources which would confirm it as official. Regarding Shame Shame which has not been contested and is also from ultratop.be, firstly, I remember this being posted to online news sources officially and as the first single from the album it is inline with the officially confirmed artwork for the second single from the album, No Son of Mine. However, what I can also tell you from watching the promotion of the latest Foo Fighters album, But Here We Are, is that some news websites did initially post artwork for the first two singles, Rescued and Under You, but then a couple of weeks later those websites had replaced the images with the album artwork. This may be a deliberate part of the marketing scheme to best promote the album. I think this is what happened with Shame Shame. The artworks that were posted for Rescued and Under You look like they were possibly taken from the lyric videos on Youtube but do actually look better quality than screen snippets and if taken from Youtube then they are supposed to accredit it to Youtube for Copyright fair use which they were not. This was before before they were replaced with the album artwork. They are still available on on some other websites: [5], [6] [7] [8]. For the third single, Show Me How, Virgin Radio did actually accredit the image to Youtube: [9] but for the second single Under You they did not: [10]. Also, if you look at these Google Search image results you will see that it appears that Goldmine Magazine have the single artwork for Rescued but when you click on the link and go to the webpage the image has been removed: [11]. QuintusPetillius (talk) 20:35, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the insight. Was just curious is all. Sergecross73 msg me 12:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

It seems you lack the knowledge of using simple context clues to determine what is and isn't official. Take a look at the single artwork for No Son Of Mine and Shame Shame, similar in appearance, both bear a slight resemblance to the album cover, and both use the same font as the album cover. Now take a look at your Waiting On A War cover. It should not take long to determine the inauthenticity of this image. Please stop editing this into the article. 47.149.99.248 (talk) 07:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Just because the first two singles are very similar does not mean that the third has to be as well. The Waiting On A War cover art does also resemble part of the album artwork QuintusPetillius (talk) 17:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Nirvana discography

I understand thing with "Endless, Nameless" single, but I still think that needs to be a note about this single in "Nirvana discography", because it still a single. Since it is packaged together with a 20th anniversary vinyl re-release and no standalone release, maybe we can add it to "Promotional singles" segement or create a new one. Portalomaniac.669 (talk) 17:17, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

I think at most it warrants a place in the promotional singles. QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:05, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for responding :) Portalomaniac.669 (talk) 18:07, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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Dear colleague, I am writing to you because you recently made a meaningful edit to the "List of Irish clans" article. I started translating this article into Russian some time ago, but now it is in danger of being deleted due to the lack of links to sources. Could you please provide links to sources in the original English article? Hunu (talk) 21:40, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, unfortunately the history of Irish clans is no where near as well documented as the history of Scottish clans. I would like to write more on Wikipedia about Irish clans. One source that might be useful is: Grenham, John (1993) Clans and families of Ireland: The heritage and heraldry of Irish clans and families which can be bought here: [12]. Cheers.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:11, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. But it seems to me that it is necessary to provide links to the available information on Irish clans, so that there is no false impression that this article is original research.Hunu (talk) 18:38, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

No, on Wikipedia you can quote books without having an online link. You could try the official Clans of Ireland website which is here: [13], but their list of recognised clans ([14]) does not reflect the Wikipedia article's list. Further to this the Clans of Ireland has a list of online sources here: [15]. The List of Irish clans on Wikipedia seems to have been sourced from Leabhar na nGenealach which was written in the mid 17th century and appears to be the most complete document of Irish clans. I would also say it is probably the most reliable source available given when it was written. It was published in a book in 2004 as The Great Book of Irish Genealogies. However, starting prices for the book seem to be around £700 to buy it, unless you go to a library to view it. The Register of Clans at the Clans of Ireland Website is a modern organisation but for a clan to be registered one of the eligibility requirements is that they can prove their genealogy in Ireland back to at least 1691, which is around when the Irish clan system ended. Many of the surnames in Clans of Ireland's Register of Clans are found on the List of Irish clans page. Cheers. (talk) 19:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much Hunu (talk) 20:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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