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Hi Mean! Why did you delete the truth?

User page Almage

Hi Mean! I'm not sure I'm doing this appropriately or correctly, however I'll take a stab at it. I'm writing in regard to a User page I began last night, which represents my first ever contribution to Wikipedia. I created an account last evening, and read some, but not all, of the multitude of documentation on what is expected and required from, and proper etiquette for, contributors. I'm sure I've made some mistakes....

My intent is not commercial, self-promoting, or dissemination of opinion. There has been some upheaval in the Apple computer user community, revolving around the recent release of the new OS, Mac OS X 10.7, known as Lion. We've been discussing solutions, and my thought was that the procedure I posted on this Wikipedia User page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Almage) would a) be beneficial to the Apple user community and b) allow folks who have been working on figuring out ways to solve problems related to this new OS release to contribute to the procedure for which this page was created.

It now appears that I've triggered some issue with someone (yourself) charged with overseeing the "quality" of the Wikipedia. I just discovered this 'talk' page and interface, after I clicked on the "undo" link for the modification you made to my User page. I performed this 'undo', as I did not realize that blanking the page was not a result of random contributor who for whatever reason felt that blanking the page was the thing to do.

I would very much like to exchange information about the appropriateness or inappropriateness of the procedure information being posted on Wikipedia - hopefully this talk entry is the proper method to begin such.

Almage (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

The only problem was that the content had no relevance at all to Wikipedia. It may be of benefit to the Apple user community, but not to the Wikipedia user community. Although I am concerned with the quality of Wikipedia (and that includes user pages), I hold no official position. If you read Wikipedia:User pages, then you should get a good idea of what these pages can be used for. Good Luck! . . Mean as custard (talk) 07:48, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

CSD tagging

Hi. When CSD tagging, please remember to notify the user, using the particular template listed here. -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 08:06, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

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It was quite intentional if you had bothered to read my edit summary and the content you have restored. . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but I didn't see any "promotional" elements in that page. If the editor was trying to promote her web site, she would have put an actual link to that web site on the page, and she didn't. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:54, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Maybe, but it had no relation to Wikipedia; per policy guidelines - "Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a general hosting service, so your user page is not a personal website. Your user page is about you as a Wikipedian, and pages in your user space should be used as part of your efforts to contribute to the project." . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


Ovum Ltd. company page

Hi Mean as custard, I have updated the the Ovum Ltd. company page after your previous revert due to an over promotional version. Can you please take a look and say what you think about the newer version? If you have any comments I'll be happy to hear them and apply additional changes. Thanks, Alex User:alex.zhitnitsky (talk) 9 October 2011 —Preceding undated comment added 19:33, 9 October 2011 (UTC).

It looks fine; I see no problems with it. . . Mean as custard (talk) 19:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


Data Management Inc. company page

Thank you for reviewing my article. This was my first attempt at researching a company and it met with a lot of resistance in the beginning for a lack of notability and other concerns. So I went back and re-worked the whole article, adding at least 12 sources, including the New York Times and Miami Herald, and personal interviews with vice presidents at Data Management Inc. I avoided opinions and limited it to facts uncovered by my research.

My agenda with this article is to inform. My research will hopefully help people understand who this company is, what they create, and their growth over the years. I was inspired by the Microsoft and Google wikis (though my article is nothing by comparison). Where Data Management Inc. began in 1988 and where it is now is what inspired me to tell their story. Once I re-worked it, I understood that it fell within the guidelines of Wikipedia.

I noticed your request that I tone down the promotional material. I have a tendency in my writing to be a little wordy and colorful, so I re-read the article, and then read it again. Unfortunately I can't find anything that was an opinion or suggests a superior product. My research revealed when and how this company started, what products and services they offer, and significant milestones in the company's history. I wanted to ask you to help me. Is there something in particular that leaps off the page at you - something that I can change so that it doesn't rub you as promotional? This article is not intended as a marketing tool, but to inform (as other wikis are doing - Microsoft, Google, Adobe). If there is any thing that I can do that would help make this article sound more like a "just the facts" article then please let me know, and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks! Dmarkwilliams (talk) 21:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

There was little seriously wrong with the article. The main things I was concerned about was the over-use of the "solutions" buzzword, and the peacocky mission statement, which together made the article sound a little promotional in tone. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:20, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. On my use of the word "solutions," I wasn't sure how else to refer to the different delivery systems. Maybe I'll use the word delivery system, option, release, version, or system. "Solutions" was just a generic term I picked up for various products (software and hardware that serve as the merchant's suggested solution to a specific problem). I can see how that word may send a different message so I'll take care of it.

I didn't remember including the mission statement, but records show that there was one. It looks like it was removed.

The statement seemed to capture the company's purpose and value of stakeholders so I included it. My research has shown that they have a history of developing systems that meet the needs defined by their customers. They also appear to promote good values in their people since the founder and management team both attribute their success to those values. So I included it since their history is consistent with that statement, but I also included it since other articles such as Google's wikipedia article mention a part of their mission statement.

Thanks for helping me make this article better. Dmarkwilliams (talk) 20:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Hospital Radio Schedule removed

Hi,

I have noticed that you have removed the on-air schedule list from our hospital radio page (Radio Broadgreen).

Can you help me understand why you have done this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.24.254 (talk) 09:06, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Because such detail is not appropriate to an encyclopedia article. It is not your hospital radio page, it is a Wikipedia article about a radio station. . . Mean as custard (talk) 18:22, 15 October 2011 (UTC)


Merge discussion for Agata (given name)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Agata (given name) , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. NeoUrfahraner (talk) 10:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Willow Wren numbers

Thanks for finding the US Kestrel. According to Ellison there were 7 Willow Wrens (BGA 162, 201, 202, 243, 245, 278 and an Australian, built by F.M Hamilton). Do you have a citeable source for the revision to six or know which one is disputed?TSRL (talk) 09:24, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

G243 is shown in Ellison as the "Red Wren" and hence is a re-registration of the Crested Wren owned by Eustace Thomas.
The Sailplane May 1936 p.89: "In the meantime Thomas was taking his "'C" in the RED WREN"
The Sailplane July 1936 p.139: "The RED (or CRESTED) and GOLDEN WRENS flew at Mam Tor, putting in a total of ahout four hours." :Mean as custard (talk) 12:13, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Certainly true that Ellison, puzzlingly, has two Red Wren's and the quotes you've found strongly support the identification. The BGA registration records ought to show the re-reg 178 (1934) -> 243 (1936) to nail it.TSRL (talk) 13:53, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Advice

Hi Mean as custard

I respect what you told me last time when I requested to post information on your Ground Rent page but I have now added a page to my website which only provides information to interested parties and doesn't try to sell them anything.

I am interested in adding information about Head Leases and their function under the section of your text called ===English===

The text which I would like to include from my website source is: -

A head lease is a lease between a tenant and a landlord in which overall contractual responsibility is given to one identifiable tenant called the head lessee. This form of lease normally relates to an entire building where the individual units are sold off on long leases known as under leases.

Can you please tell me if you will allow me to do so as I would very much like to post some revelant information on your page and I am asking your permission first as I do not want to annoy you or Wikipedia?

The website link is available upon request but I haven't posted it here as not to annoy you.

If however you still don't think that my website or information is acceptable can you please make some suggestions on how I could change this.

Regards,

Ground Rent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ground rent (talkcontribs) 12:53, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Interxion page

Hi Mean as custard, Can you let me know what elements you find to be too advertising focused on the Interxion page? thanks, Rjnicholson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjnicholson (talkcontribs) 11:32, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

There just seems to be an overall bias towards telling us how marvelous the company is, with little coverage of neutral or adverse factors, such as how and why the organisation was set up, its history and any critical comment. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:28, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


Ok thats useful - i'll have another look thru to see any areas that can be improved - i dont think there is much in terms of neutral or adverse factors out there. How and why i'll look at with history. thanks, Rob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjnicholson (talkcontribs) 11:32, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Recycle-IT

Hello Mean as custard. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Recycle-IT, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguous advertising (can be cleaned without a fundamental rewrite). Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion for UkrSib Asset Management

Hello Mean as custard, Could you help me with article which you've recently checked and tagged for speedy deletion (UkrSib Asset Management)? I'd like to explain that UkrSib AMC is subsidiary of UkrSibbank (BNP Paribas Group) and also one of the biggest and notable Asset Management company in Ukraine. This information can be confirmed by an independent source Investfunds.ua (AMC rankings). What should I do (or add) then to avoid deletion? Thank you in advance! AnnaPol (talk) 14:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Violation on Piet Zwart, etc

Hi, I am teaching a Campus Ambassador course on the History of Design and Digital Media in which the Piet Zwart article was written. Thank you for correcting the copyright violation issues. Because we are working with a student context, it would be great if you could leave a note on the talk page explaining how the author could properly rewrite the article based off of the sources. Thanks. --Theredproject (talk) 22:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Spammy user pages

I've tagged a load from Here. Hr333H (talk) 13:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Cool bananas.--Shirt58 (talk) 11:23, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

mantain your own user page not others.

One wiki admin told me that you can write anything on your user page. Even about your history. who the wiki greedy admin you are....Areebhts (talk) 12:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Self-promotion is not encouraged. . . Mean as custard (talk) 13:37, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

The Anti-Spam Barnstar
This is to thank Mean as custard for their relentless efforts in combating self-promotion in user spaces. Over half user pages that I delete you tagged, so I wanted to say thanks! SmartSE (talk) 16:28, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Revision of AUS site

Hello Mean, I have updated the American University of Sharjah site and you reverted it back to the old site, saying it was blatantly promotional. I was just giving the facts about the university. Can you tell me how I update the site that fits with your policy please? --Frances Barton (talk) 06:46, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

It is mainly due to the overall promotional tone of the changes, the excessive use of links to external sites (chiefly the university's own web pages), and the inclusion of uncited "facts" such as:
"Its members contribute actively to the guidance and evaluation of the progress of the university, in order to uphold its academic excellence."
"fosters excellence in teaching, learning and research"
"AUS is working towards creating a culture of sustainability and has set a great example by the opening in 2011 of a state-of-the-art School of Business and Management (SBM) facility"
"AUS places great emphasis on the development of the non-academic aspect of a student’s university life"
"Dedicated to students’ interests and hobbies"
I suggest any future changes you make to the site should provide references to neutral sources unconnected with the university. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:26, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, MaC, for giving me some guidelines. I shall amend the text as per your points and hope it adheres to the Wiki spirit. --Frances Barton (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Centre for Management Studies, Dibrugarh University, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Muhandes (talk) 16:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Department of Premier and Cabinet, Queensland

Shouldn't you have removed the ext. links from Department of Premier and Cabinet, Queensland without removing the content, then tagged it with citation needed, refimprove or better still convert them to references yourself? Why remove both the links and info? - Shiftchange (talk) 02:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Because references are not the same as external links; if they were converted to references, they would be primary sources, which are discouraged in Wikipedia articles. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

There's some recent activity, FYI. Drmies (talk) 03:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence

The Barnstar of Diligence
I see you already have an Anti-Spam barnstar, and I don't know of a way to add a bar to it, so here is a different one. Without your tireless efforts, Wikipedia would be a gigantic advertisers' hoarding. Thank you! JohnCD (talk) 11:59, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey. You didn't notify the author of the article of your prodding, which is required. I have taken care of this for you. 98.28.12.216 (talk) 15:41, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, although the author hasn't edited the article for three years, they recently uploaded a new logo, so it would appear they are still taking an interest. . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

You must notify the articles creator when prodding

This is just a friendly reminder that you MUST notify the creator of the article when prodding. It isn't optional. 98.28.12.216 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC).

Howdy, It's not great but can you tell me if you are happier with this entry now? Joe407 (talk) 15:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

It's a bit better, but it still reads like an advertisement, and it still doesn't quote any references or sources. . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:59, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi there! Could you please look at our updated page? We're still working on citations and such, but we brought it much more into alignment with similar pages. Your insights are appreciated! Jkaufeld (talk) 20:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

A big improvement, looks pretty good. . . Mean as custard (talk) 20:33, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the compliment and for your help. It's appreciated! Jkaufeld (talk) 21:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I removed the AfD tag because Exsite Webware is Free Open Source Software (FOSS). While not always "notable", FOSS is verifiable. It can be downloaded and installed by anyone. It's also widely used, which can be verified by a Google Search. At the time the article was written, FOS software didn't need to be notable, mainly because it's always verifiable. However, I could be wrong in this so please correct me if I have misunderstood. Santamoly (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, but all articles need at least to give an indication of why the subject is notable. A piece of software may be verifiable, but if it is only used at an obscure research establishment by three men and a dog, then it is not notable. It should not be necessary to do a Google search to find this out; the article should tell us. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:53, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
It has always been clear that Free Open Source Software (FOSS) doesn't need to be "notable" since it is verifiable. Thus your request that I explain why is puzzling. A quick search lists the following users of Exsite Webware to establish that it's widely used. If this isn't enough, please advise. I can keep adding to the list. Also let me know if you'd like to see this list in the article:
www.golfdigestplanner.com
. . .
<70 links removed>
. . .
www.womeninfinance.ca
Santamoly (talk) 00:12, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
What is needed in the article is references to sources not directly connected with the software, for example independent reviews in widely-distributed magazines, or references in mainstream publications to show it is has lasting notability. Mere "verifiability" is not sufficient. . Mean as custard (talk) 09:34, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
It's quite possible that you're mistaken. Free Open Source Software doesn't require establishing "notability". I offered the list of users to clarify the size of the user base since you were suggesting that the software might only be "used at an obscure research establishment by three men and a dog", but it appears that you deleted the list. Did you delete the list of users to support your notion that the software is only used by "three men and a dog"? This appears to be an improper response, so please let me know what you were thinking. We can continue with the non-issue of notability once we clarify why you're pursuing the "three men and a dog" idea. Santamoly (talk) 04:16, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Can you point me to where on Wikipedia it is stated that FOSS doesn't require notability to be established? I accept that at least 72 organisations use it, but that is not mentioned in the article, and in any case still doesn't make it notable, unless as stated above, there are references to it in sources not directly connected with the software, for example independent reviews in widely-distributed magazines, or references in mainstream publications. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Rosetta Barnstar
May your real life catch stand as the symbol for all the good work that you have done. I like how you turn CoI into something usable where others may just cull. Thanks for all your patience out there. Nice, very nice. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
As a follow-up, I have noticed your silence when people mention the word "administration", so I will not mention it. You will make a fine catch one day, all that playing hard to catch.billinghurst sDrewth 11:12, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
My edits to Yash Birla Group may explain why I don't want to get involved in administration. . . Mean as custard (talk) 11:22, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Mean as custard, a prod that you placed on the above page was recently contested. Just thought you might like to know. -FASTILY (TALK) 02:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Buzzwords on Kenexa page

At Kenexa, there is no explanation on the talk page for buzzwords that need to be eliminated. This is not Simple English Wikipedia, and there are links to many of the terms shown. Additionally, the word solution by itself should not be linked to that many times on one page. Thanks, Phoenix!--Jax 0677 (talk) 17:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

If solution isn't a buzzword, I don't know what is. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Ostec Enterprise LTD

Hello Mean as custard. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ostec Enterprise LTD, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: "Biggest engineering firm" is an assertation of importance. Thank you. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:25, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi. They aren't actually the creator of the article - it was started in 2006 by User:Pathaugen. Secretlondon (talk) 20:34, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Has been a copyright violation since it was created, so I've deleted it. Dougweller (talk) 10:26, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello Mean as custard, could you please give me a hint about the article which you've recently tagged to be written like an advertisement. The text is translated from the [German Wikipedia], where it had already been reviewed and approved. Thanks in advance. Separis (talk) 12:58, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

English Wikipedia tends to have a higher standard than German Wikipedia when it comes to promotional material like "recognized worldwide as technological leader" and "For its innovative power". . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:43, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
I have made corrections to the article towards a neutral point of view. Could you please read over and, if you agree, remove the ad-tag. Thanks in advance. Separis (talk) 08:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
A slight improvement, but overall it is still promotional in tone. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:09, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

speedy a1

Speedy a1, no context is for use exclusively when you cannot even ell what the article is about. Student Council, Pakistan is the Pakistani national student council--it may or may not be notable, but I think it's clear what is the subject of the article. DGG ( talk ) 17:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Spam sandboxes

Please tag them with {{db-spam}} instead of just blanking them.—Ryulong (竜龙) 08:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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huh?

8 alumni [1]? Care to fix that? Toddst1 (talk) 15:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, the original claim of "over 10,000" was uncited, so I had to rely on the list of alumni in the article. . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Hitachi Data Systems page

Dear Mean as Custard, You tagged this page as advertisement. I have made a couple rounds of edits to make it more neutral. Could you please review and let me know if there is any other content you believe to be advertisement.

Thanks much, Csoares66 (talk) 22:10, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Much improved, though still marginally promotional; I've removed the tag for now. . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

SFL 2

Hello, I saw thay you previously had worked on the article SFL 2. I wanted to draw your attention to the Articles for Discussion occuring currently. You may find it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 2. Please feel free to comment. Hasteur (talk) 15:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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Complaints about you

You may be interested to know that two users are discussing your (and my) behavior, here. DS (talk) 22:18, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi. You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and advised the requester to add references. I am notifying you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixed Redirect

Thanks for fixing the redirect at Stephen Barron. I was a little too hasty with my speedy trigger when I saw the article was created by someone who might have been the subject. Thanks again, CittàDolente (per me si va) 18:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

The Modest Barnstar
In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 66.87.0.87 (talk) 21:14, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

User:Thebeeskeeper

Hi. You are doing good work, but please remember to inform users of the page removal you have done and why. For example, you removed spam/advert from User:Thebeeskeeper but you did not leave them a notice of what and why. I just left them a {{Uw-advert2}} so they understand what they did wrong. Thanks. -- Alexf(talk) 12:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

You could help a lot

You could help a lot, indeed I am surprised you have not spotted some of them. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Helpalot. The hall mark of these accounts is that they create a user page about a mythical company which usually reports: "there are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{Reflist}} template or a <references /> tag". And the real give away is that they are all founded by Judy Ellison. If you spot any more, tag as hoax instantly and ask me or Diannaa (talk · contribs) to block the account. (It would be useful if you took on admin rights so that you could see these deleted articles. Failing that, it would be useful if we could e-mail you.) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I had noticed some of these; they seemed a little strange but mostly harmless. I will keep a look out. . . Mean as custard (talk) 17:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Questions about [A2E] deletions

As the section began with "At the heart of America II lies a commitment to total customer satisfaction. . . America II is committed to fulfilling the quality needs of our customers", it was clearly intended as advertising. A mention (not a list) of certifications may be acceptable if a reference to a third-party independent source shows it is significant.
  • Also, other pages like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heilind_Electronics list articles, so I thought that it is okay to list articles when properly pointing them to the source, can I have those back? or can you tell me what is wrong with them, so I can fix.
I have fixed this article as external links are not encouraged on Wikipedia, per guidelines on WP:EL.
  • I listed citation to the "one of the largest independent companies" statement, is [Electronic Sourcing] not considered a legit reliable source?
I couldn't find this in the reference given.
* The Top 10 Independent Distributors, Electronics Sourcing North America - June 2011 - page 24 by Gina Roos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thadson (talkcontribs) 12:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Also same page lists linkedin, facebook and similar links. so why were deleted from my page, is there a rule about this?

Please let me know, so i can improve the article properly. Thanks, Thadson (talk) 11:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

linkedin, facebook, twitter and similar links are not encouraged, as they are not considered "reliable" by Wikipedia. Mean as custard (talk) 11:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Volunteering under "Wishaw" (Town)

Can you please make sure that article Volunteering under "Wishaw" (Town) will not be removed, or categorised as advert, which isn't. Volunteering is free of charge service and provides many opportunities for the local communities, which are listed in the very article..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishaw#Volunteering

From time to time somebody removes/deletes this article which is a bad idea considering a fact that 30% of Scottish population is or was involved in any shape or form of volunteering (information from General Register Office for Scotland).

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.102.15.67 (talk) 12:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Are you saying that phrases like "To find about more about the benefits of joining us. . ." do not constitute advertising? Spam removed again. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

OK, I have removed that entry now: "To find about more about the benefits of joining us.." Cheers,

All right, it reads less like an advert now, but still fails on several criteria. Wikipedia is not a directory. References must be given to show the notability of the subject. Bare external links are against Wikipedia policy. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


Well, (Orangemike) said that "this is not a real estate listing service!" however under churches section someone listed all the churches in Wishaw, but in your opinion it is wrong to list all services of the local volunteer centre..

Well done! I gave up. A a member of the local community I can't update wiki. It's not allowed. My proactive behavior it is not good enough. I was only trying to provide better information to the local community.

Bye


Copied from Wikipedia:Grief:

There are five stages of grief which every Wikipedia spammer will go through when his content is removed. These steps are a natural and timeless part of life, but it may be helpful to know what to expect and how to cope. It can be difficult to come to terms with the realization that one's business, interests, or existence in general are not relevant to the rest of the world in the form of a Wikipedia entry.

The five stages of grieving are:

  1. Denial: "This is not spam. My website/​article is important/​relevant/​useful/​reliable/​unique/​spectacular."[2][3][4][5][6][7][8]
  2. Anger: "How dare you do this to me?! You have no right to censor me! I am going to report you!"[9][10][11][12] [13]
  3. Bargaining: "Well, if I can't have my site/article here, neither should that other guy."[14][15]
  4. Depression: "It's very sad to see that a great site like Wikipedia is so very unfair."[16][17][18]
  5. Acceptance: "I am leaving Wikipedia forever. It's your loss. Goodbye, cruel world."[19][20][21][22]

Mean as custard (talk) 12:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)



Blanking a User Page without fair warning for a first violation and a debatable one at that

Dear Mean as Custard,

While I understand that people are prone to abusing open communities and someone has to police it, a fair warning would have made me change the user page immediately, why blank it?

Just a little quote from the Wikipedia: User Pages >>>

"Users believed to be in violation of these policies should first be advised on their talk page using Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia.

I noticed that your user page may not meet Wikipedia's user page guideline. If you believe that your userpage does not violate our guidelines, please leave a note here and we can discuss it. As an alternative, you may add {{Db-userreq}} to the top of the page in question and an administrator will delete it, or you can simply edit the page so that it meets Wikipedia's userpage guidelines. Thank you. when immediate action is not otherwise necessary."

Please note it says SHOULD First be advised. It doesn't matter now, just venting my frustration at editorial power abuse. Your contribution by blanking my user page was not constructive and you should be aware of that. Mean as Custard, being anonymous does not mean to not have responsibility. This is a very minor issue, but your transgression made me look into your reputation online and found at least one reference to abusive behaviour from you and it being like mud on wikipedia's respectability.

When a page includes links to the user's own company offering search engine optimization and the like, I tend to shoot first and forget about asking questions. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Your efforts for Delhi Public School, Bathinda deserve this cup of coffee! Arunbandana (talkcontribs) 16:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

An award for you

A Barnstar!
Golden Wiki Award

You are among the top 5% of most active Wikipedians this past month! 66.87.7.204 (talk) 00:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Note regarding Wells International School changes

I reverted your a portion of the changes you had made to this page (for which you had cited "tone down promotional material") due to the requirement laid out by the International Baccalaureate when referencing a school's status as an IB candidate school. (See http://www.ibo.org/school/candidate/) I did leave out the links for the Facebook and Twitter pages according to your changes, though I did return the link to independent reviews. To date, there simply haven't been negative reviews added to that site, which does not justify its removal as an external source of information regarding the school. Please let me know if you disagree. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuruzovich (talkcontribs) 13:49, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I have reverted your revert, as most of the material was clearly promotional. I have also removed any reference to the International Baccalaureate, as the presentation requirements laid out by the organisation are unacceptable in a Wikipedia article. . . Mean as custard (talk) 14:28, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Questions about The Sarah Jane Brain Foundation deletions

08:37, 11 April 2012‎ Mean as custard (talk | contribs)‎ . . (18,199 bytes) (-44,790)‎ (remove trivia).

Just was hoping you could give me a reasoning for the deletions.

The changes mainly involved the trimming of embedded lists and external links. Lists of trivia are discouraged by Wikipedia, as they tend to swamp and detract from the main content of the article. Any particularly significant items from the lists could be summarised in prose form. . . Mean as custard (talk) 21:33, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

No go accounts

Another one for you to watch for: user names Ngochoang*. Advertorials written in bad English but advertising US companies. MO is to create an account, write one advert and then create a new account. So no point in checking accounts created before this message - just watch for new ones. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:32, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiThanks

WikiThanks
WikiThanks

Thanks for your recent contributions! 66.87.2.10 (talk) 13:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Surprised

by your tag on Yemen House (company). I added spam to the your delete reason inc. Peridon (talk) 12:52, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The No Spam Barnstar
When I see you've tagged something, I feel 99% sure of its fate. Then I look at it, and about 99% of the time I delete it. (Most of the rest have been deleted already...) Peridon (talk) 13:01, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

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Impending deletion of blackjack treasure

Hi there,

I have recently added a wikipedia review of a game on Blackjack.com - Blackjack Treasure. I received your message regarding its impending deletion due to No indication of Notability...

If I add a few citations/references to the game and the site within the article, will this be enough to keep the article? If not, I'd appreciate some guidance as I feel most of the article fits with the guidelines?

Thanks

Gameonwiki (talk) 12:30, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes that is the only problem, that there are no independent references to show its notability. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Reverting back to Old Status, India.gov.in

Dear ! I have made certain wise changes to the page [India.gov.in|India.gov.in], but I found it reverted back to old state by you. I thank you for your prompt review, but the changes made were mandatory. I work at National Informatics centre, Indian Government and I am authorized to enrich authentic content representing work done by NIC. I can be reached at editor.info@nic.in Hope you will consider the changes as genuine. Thanks 05:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC) --Nationalportal (talk)

You clearly have a conflict of interest with the subject. You removed all the independent references and added lots of external links to your own site, as well as adding promotional new content. None of this is acceptable to Wikipedia, and the fact that you claim the changes made were mandatory would be laughable to any serious Wikipedia editor. If you make any further similar changes your Wikipedia account may be blocked. . . Mean as custard (talk) 07:08, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I am not being offensive and i didn't intend to promote any content. I would take care of COIs as suggested by you.Should I proceed further removing all the links to india.gov.in. I wish have the content updated, especially new sections.

Thanks --Nationalportal (talk)

No-one suggested you were being offensive, but new users of Wikipedia sometimes need some fairly robust guidance. As long as you fully understand the implications of WP:COI, it may be permissible to correct errors of fact and add notable new content as long as references are provided to independent, neutral sources. . . Mean as custard (talk) 07:52, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Short question regarding the changes for Guardian Industries

Hello there,

I was just wondering if you could give me a short feedback for the changes you made at the Guardian Industries page. I am quite new here so I wanted to know if it is forbidden to use the "R" sign for the registered trademark? I thought it is a fixed part to a brand name so that's why I attached it. Those products are patented by Guardian Ind.

Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ViviIMB10 (talkcontribs) 07:48, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

"R" signs. "TM", copyright symbols etc. are discouraged in Wikipedia, as they tend to be a hallmark of a promotional article. The fact that the products are patented by Guardian Ind. is probably not significant unless, for example, the trademark has been infringed or challenged in a notable way, in which case this may be mentioned in the article. Spider-Man® may be a registered trademark of Marvel Comics, but the article about the character is not covered with little ® symbols. . . Mean as custard (talk) 08:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I wasn't aware of that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ViviIMB10 (talkcontribs) 14:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Protection?

Thanks for your anti-spam work! The frequent vandalism to your userpage led TheGeneralUser to request that your userpage be semiprotected, but the admin who responded to the request declined because you hadn't asked for it yourself. Would you like it to be protected or semiprotected? If not, ignore me; if so, leave a note at my talk page saying semi- or full- and either indefinite or specifying a duration for protection. Nyttend (talk) 14:59, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Done. If you change your opinion, wishing either for unprotection or for full protection, you can request it either at my talk or at WP:RFPP. Nyttend (talk) 15:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Your user page

Hi Mean as custard, i see that my request for semi-protection of your user page has been done. Though in the first place the reviewing administrator did not approve it because it was not from you. Seeing as your user page has been vandalized many times that request was the most appropriate one as generally most user pages are protected in response to high risk of vandalism which your user page has had a history of. Anyways see you around :) and Happy Editing! TheGeneralUser (talk) 13:19, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

St. Margaret's School (Virginia)

Was instructed to update our page with more accurate content since it was outdated. The information is the same as previous- just updated but you keep reverting it. What do I do?

Thanks


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottiepride (talkcontribs) 17:05, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Update the factual content but forget about the promotional stuff "we ...", "our ..." Mean as custard (talk) 17:11, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

link title== Madevasasha ==

Hello, could you please help me - highlight or remove - what is it that keeps the "advertisement" comment on my page University of Ostrava? I have already changed the text several times - the current version now is almost completely new and the texts come from the official web of our university, but the "advertisement" comment is still there :( I have changed what I could into a neutral point of view, but no idea what to do now.. Thank you very much in advance for your help! Best regards Sona Madevasasha Madevasasha (talk) 18:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for you comments and advice at the University of Ostrava page. Please be patient with me, I am learning, it's my first text.. Thank you very much! Sona Madevasasha (talk) 13:01, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

CoEBio3 links

Hi, I've not been adding links indiscriminately, I've focussed on a few key pages that are directly relevant to our Univerity organisation CoEBio3. Could you please revert them back?

Thanks,

Kirk

I am not promoting my University any more than The University of Exeter, Graz, Iowa, Delft, Stockholm, MIT - all are already on the wikipedia "Biocatalysis" webpage. They are all key academic partners of ours - we are part of the same close network, and routinely collaborate with these institutions. Reference 6 "Nicholas J. Turner" is of direct relevance - Prof. Turner is director of CoEBio3. He is a leading expert in the field of Biocatalysis and as such should be an external link.

Kirk

If there was a Wikipedia article about YOUR University organisation it would be permissible to add the link to it. The articles you have been adding links to appear to have no direct connection with YOUR organisation so the obvious conclusion is that you are trying to promote YOUR Univerity organisation. . . Mean as custard (talk) 12:46, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Question about the TBF new acronym deletion

Could you pls give me the reason for deletion on the new entry you deleted (Tissue Bank of France, a human tissue and bone graft bank)?

12:04, 4 April 2012‎ Mean as custard (talk | contribs)‎ . . (607 bytes) (-87)‎ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbf.lab (talkcontribs)

Because disambiguation pages are intended to provide links to other Wikipedia articles, not random external links to commercial websites. . . Mean as custard (talk) 16:20, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

hi im sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshmel (talkcontribs) 21:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

can you help me

can you help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshmel (talkcontribs) 21:46, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thoughts

What'd you say about the massive 3RR violations on Kim Yu-Na? I've started an SPI here and a WP:AN3 thread. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Only that removal of properly sourced content without explanation is not noramally acceptable. We will see which side gets tired first. . . Mean as custard (talk) 13:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Heh. AN3 and SPI are taking a while. --Thine Antique Pen (talkcontributions) 13:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I am Taiwanese, I do not English! --馮光遠想跟能登麻美子交合 (talk) 15:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

You appear to be somewhat at a disadvantage then as this is English Wikipedia. . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
--馮光遠想跟能登麻美子交合 (talk) 15:44, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
. . and your point is? . . Mean as custard (talk) 15:45, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Symonds Yat Edit

Please justify your edit. Uninformative and rude edit messages are not helpful. Are you familiar with the area in this article? UPDATE: Added links to similar edits.

As it happens, I am familiar with the area, but I would still have removed the external link if I had no knowledge of the subject, as it was clearly intended to be promotional. The edit message simply read "Spam link removal" which seems pretty informative to me. . Mean as custard (talk) 10:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Stop Press: I have removed the Saracen's Head external link as well, as that seemed very promotional. . . Mean as custard (talk) 10:58, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I concede a COI edit (I've now read up on it). Thanks for dealing with it. Acronwoods (talk) 12:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)