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This is an archive of User talk:Lar from about 1 January 2007 through about 15 January 2007. (minus South Tyrol). Please do not comment here, use my current talk page for that, thanks. It is part of a series of archives, see the box at right for the list and to navigate to others.

An index to all my talk page archives, automatically maintained by User:HBC Archive Indexerbot can be found at User:Lar/TalkArchiveIndex.

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Larbot[edit]

Hi, User:Larbot currently states:

I am getting this account because at some point I may want to run a bot. This account does NOT currently run any bots ...

Given that you are now using it; you might want to consider rewording that page. Thanks – Gurch 18:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Gurch. It's still not a bot account, but the wording is a bit confusing, so I added the following:
Note: As of this writing, the account is doing edits. However, all edits are being performed manually... I decided to try to use it for rote tasks like newsletter delivery and DYK thanking/crediting, in order to leave my own watch list and contrib history more fairly focused on non rote tasks. But as of this writing (Jan 2007) it's still not a bot account. (AWB is not a bot. Using a javascript function from a dropdown tab to add a previewable comment to a talk page in one click is also not a bot) Please direct any questions you might have to me, thanks! The statement about it not ever voting or commenting substantively in discussions where it is not clear that it is me speaking, continues to hold and I continue to request notice if you ever see that violated. ++Lar: t/c 19:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hope that sorts it, let me know if it still needs clarifying. I guess maybe I should have went with the name lar_servant or lar_boringedits or something :) ++Lar: t/c 19:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's fine. I think "Bot" in an account name is generally recognized to refer to any kind of special-purpose repetitive-editing account, automated or not; the important thing, though, is that if you are actively using the account for something, the userpage makes that clear. Thanks – Gurch 19:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks for suggesting that this be clarified. ++Lar: t/c 19:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a Friendly Reminder[edit]

Just a friendly reminder, but the image recently added to T:DYK was not protected properly. Up until just now, only the local page was protected, leaving the Commons image vulnerable to vandalism (as the commons image was not locally uploaded). -- tariqabjotu 19:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Drat. I wasn't the protector, just the checker after the fact when I promoted, and I misread the templates and status that was there. Thanks for the heads up and thanks for sorting it. That's twice I've bobbled images lately. Note that if only the image info page is protected (no local upload) you have to protect the commons image, but if you DID local upload, you don't. the template placed claimed it was local uploaded but I missed that it was not. I'm a commons admin too, became one partly so I could do this... correctly... grr at me. Thanks again. ++Lar: t/c 19:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah... I probably would have made the same mistake were I you, because I tend to trust that the template means all is in order. I made the same note to the protector as well. -- tariqabjotu 20:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

for your message about the DYK box. The page is protected since I got a lot of hate/spam discussion entries (now deleted, even from the version history) by some stupid German group that I have a lot of trouble with, due to some Wikipedia entries. Since I don't check it very often anyway, I did not bother to get it opened, as I much prefer talk entries at my German pages anyway. --AndreasPraefcke 19:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok... works for me. I won't quote policy about protection being temporary etc... not going to worry about it. ++Lar: t/c 20:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Larbot[edit]

Thank your bot for notifying me about the DYK update ^^ --Deryck C. 13:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

) ++Lar: t/c 13:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Fallasburg Bridge, was selected for DYK![edit]

Updated DYK query On January 5, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fallasburg Bridge, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 04:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

admin coaching link box[edit]

Hi Lar, just wanted to say I wasn't ignoring you about the link box. I just haven't gotten to it yet. I removed it from the one page because it pushed the big links (Requests, Volunteers, Status) into 2 lines, and I thought it just looked bad. There's probably a way to fix that, and maybe we can combine those major links with the less-important ones.. anyway, I'll get to it, or feel free to mess around with it if you like. Not like I claim ownership or something. Cheers and happy weekend, Fang Aili talk 22:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

np. It was only one line on my monitor but I run really big. Maybe put the big links into the box too, but bigger fonts? some of them are actually twice. Which all did you remove them from? or point me to the discussion? thanks ++Lar: t/c 04:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beatles Newsletter - Issue No.9 template thingy[edit]

Well, it may have been a simple instruction for those with some brains - but it is beyond me... Is it possible to set the blessed thing up so all I (or anyone as incompetent - some ask!) have to do is add in the numbers and dates and remove all the nowiki tags and hit save? This is getting beyond embarrassing and into annoying... LessHeard vanU 20:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I may have done it... trouble is, I don't know if I have or where to find the stupid thing if I have created it!LessHeard vanU 20:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Let me give it a boo. (your contrib history would show you any file you saved and where it is...) If it is not quite right at the moment I'll sort it for you. (For starters you don't EDIT the template, you use it on a page..... I'll revert the changes and sort out the page) Gimme a sec ++Lar: t/c 20:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorted. See Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Outreach/Newsletter/Issue 009 which is the correct place I think. Again, just visit the template, visit the page you want to start, and paste the text at the top of the template in, changing the months and numbers and etc, and save. ++Lar: t/c 21:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So... I open a blank page and add the subst tag (including all the dates & numbers) from the template page to that - and the format copies over? Thanks for your help.LessHeard vanU 21:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Right. that is, paste {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Outreach/Newsletter/Template|this issue number (###)|this issue date (Month Year)|last month (Month)|next issue number (###)|next issue date (Month Year)|your username}} into the new page and change stuff to fit. Then save the page and go back into edit and start editing in content. In fact, the way to get the "right" page to work on, is to follow the red link from the current month's newsletter, it already points to the right place for next months to be. LMK when you're ready and I will give it a once over and deliver it. Meanwhile the template maybe needs better instructions? :) ++Lar: t/c 21:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is as finished as it is going to be - I doubt if any more effort is going to improve it. Please send out as soon as convenient (I have left the distributor credit blank).LessHeard vanU 21:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for the heads up. I think I will first send out a little blurb to the inactives "you didn't get the newsletter beause it looks like you are inactive, we are going to remove your name but you can always add back if you want" or something like that. ++Lar: t/c 21:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Beatles and forking articles[edit]

I have a problem that I would like to impart to all you good 'Beatles project' editors, and it is this:

  • Should anything directly Beatles-related be in the main Beatles' article, and only 'personal' stuff put into the Lennon, McCartney, Harrison, and Starr articles? I have the disturbing feeling that I'm repeating stuff in both Lennon and McCartney articles that should only be in the main article.
  • But... if only personal stuff is included in the individual Beatles' articles, would it make them too confusing/random, to read?

Please answer (on a stamped and self-addressed postcard please) on our talk page. (This might be more interesting than talking about MBEs... :) andreasegde, Mr Hornby, and Sir Sean de Garde 15:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Which talk page? the one for the main article, Talk:The Beatles ?? Often when asking for help from busy people it really is best to give them as much help to get to where they need to go to help you as you possibly can. Links are a great way to speed up getting help! Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 15:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
By "our talk page" I assumed he meant those silly names of his talkpage. That is where I commented.LessHeard vanU 21:45, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Commons[edit]

Hi Lar, as a Commons admin, I was wondering if you could help with: WP:ANI#Underage images posted to Erection. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 16:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I commented there but it looks sorted to me, Nilfanion was on the case! ++Lar: t/c 17:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That Nilfanion's just too fast! Thanks for checking it out -- Samir धर्म 18:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Go support him for admin here if you haven't already! He's that good! ++Lar: t/c 23:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your offer of help at WP:ANI. I now have an account on Commons so I'll be sure to post to the Commons admin noticeboard should I notice a problem like that again. WJBscribe (WJB talk) 04:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

friendly reminder[edit]

Hey Lar, just a reminder, you wanted to put more work by Elizabeth Margaret Chandler on Commons, also Thanks for the user page ideas, I left you a response on my talk page:) Epousesquecido 01:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that, yes. I will certainly see what I can do about Ms. Chandler's works. ++Lar: t/c 03:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My Request for Adminship[edit]

Thanks for contributing to my RfA! Thank you for your nomination of and support in my my RfA, which passed with a tally of 117/0/1. I hope that my conduct as an admin lives up to the somewhat flattering confidence the community has shown in me. Please don't hesitate to leave a message on my talk page should you need help or want to discuss something with me. Has there been much progress on the Wikipedia:CommonsTicker? I saw toolserver managed to start replicating en the other day, so hopefully thats not too far off. By the way, if you want Coredesat's phone number I'll get hold of it for you :P--Nilfanion (talk) 15:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

use of images in The Beatles Discography section[edit]

Hi, Lar. There is a debate regarding the fair use of images in a gallery format in the main article under the Discography section. The person suggesting removal is an Admin, so I/we are taking their point very seriously and I would like you to cast your eye over the arguments and comment if appropriate. There was a previous new editor who was keen on removing said section for reasons of duplication, (see my talkpage), but hopefully a reasoned conclusion to the image question should settle that also. LessHeard vanU 00:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I put my oar in. We shall see. ++Lar: t/c 01:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Let me stress I have no axe to grind there; I even hope you are right in your more liberal interpretation of the rules. --Guinnog 22:52, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't doubt it for a moment, my friend. Whatever's best for the encyclopedia and the readers. BTW and completely unreleatedly (except that there were some songs in it by our fab 4), I saw Children of Men yesterday, that movie scares the crap out of me. I may have to go knock someone up, just to feel better. ++Lar: t/c 03:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter, Issue 9, January 2007[edit]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter
Issue 009 – January 2007

Beatles News
  • The ongoing divorce proceedings between Paul McCartney and the former Heather Mills continues to occupy the attention of the media - Heather Mills reportedly receiving unspecified death threats.
  • The British Post Office have released a series of stamps depicting various Beatles album covers.
Project News
  • The Paul McCartney article is being primped and primed for submission as a Featured Article candidate.
  • The good folk who have been working on the above article have turned their attention to the John Lennon page. Everyone is, of course, invited to contribute.
  • The hottest Project page this month has been the Macca (Paul for those not in the know!) article, again.
  • Other Project news... Please let the editors know if anything is happening, or just contribute it to the next newsletter.
Member News
Issue of the Month

The question of capitalising of the letter "t" in The of The Beatles has been raised again. It appears that UK style references (here and here) also maintains that the letter should be in lower case. If the Project is to be appear professional then it may have to change the format. Polite discussion is invited at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles/Policy. If possible, please provide sources/references to support your position.

From the Editors

It has been a fairly quiet time with regard to the Project (or at least that is how it seems). If you are reading this and wondering why your efforts in respect of a Beatles article has not been mentioned, it may be that you haven't told any editor. This is your Newsletter, which means you can contribute to it, so please do!

If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!

Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 010 – January/February 2007). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

Contributors to this Issue
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here.

Comments on issue[edit]

OI!!! (re the lead). Thanks for your efforts! LessHeard vanU 21:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am using AWB this time (and using my bot account) ... AWB is, if anything, slower than how I did it before. But I'm also sorting out who is on and off the subscriber list... see Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Outreach/Newsletter/PossiblyInactive and parallel pages. ++Lar: t/c 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(copy of query posted on 'PossiblyInactive talkpage); Can we be clear on this; inactive on Wikipedia or the project? LessHeard vanU 22:03, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
WP is my thinking. I go by if all I see on their talk page is several months of newsletters. They can be project inactive, I don't think that's so bad. if they are WP active but project inactive they can remove themselves if they want. Why don't you go ahead and update that way? ++Lar: t/c 22:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Me? I'm (only) just a newsletter editor! :)
I will have a look, I suppose the contrib history is the best method, it indicates whether they are pressing keys or not - not whether they are talking. Hey, I hope contrib history is included in the listing... LessHeard vanU 22:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC) Edit; no, they aren't! Er........ let me sleep on it, I will see what I can do! LessHeard vanU 22:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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