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Welcome to Wikipedia[edit]

Welcome!

Hello, Junjoon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Codf1977 (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Xeltek Inc.[edit]

A tag has been placed on Xeltek Inc., requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia for multiple reasons. Please visit the article for details.

You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Codf1977 (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. The following links will help you begin editing on Wikipedia:

Please bear these points in mind while editing Wikipedia

The Wikipedia Tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~ (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome! Forty twothe answer? 18:30, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion[edit]

Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda and advertising. Please make sure that the subject is worthy of a Wikipedia article. It can be tempting to write about yourself or projects in which you have a strong personal involvement. However, do remember that the standards for encyclopedic articles apply to such pages just like any other, including the requirement to maintain a neutral point of view, which is difficult when writing about yourself or about projects close to you. Creating overly abundant links and references to autobiographical articles is unacceptable. See Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.

All information about companies and products are written in an objective and unbiased style. Article topics must be third-party verifiable, so articles about very small "garage" or local companies are typically unacceptable. External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they identify major organizations which are the topic of the article. Wikipedia neither endorses organizations nor runs affiliate programs. See also Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for guidelines on corporate notability. Those promoting causes or events, or issuing public service announcements, even if noncommercial, should use a forum other than Wikipedia to do so.

All articles must be about subjects that are considered notable according to Wikipedia's standard of inclusion. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability. All content must be verifiable. If no independent, third-party, reliable sources can be found on a topic, then Wikipedia should not have an article on it. "Notable" is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance," and even organizations that editors personally believe are "important" are only accepted as notable if they can be shown to have attracted notice. An organization is not notable merely because a notable person or event was associated with it.

Acceptable sources under this criterion include all types of reliable sources except works carrying merely trivial coverage, such as: 

   * sources that simply report meeting times, shopping hours or event schedules,
   * the publications of telephone numbers, addresses, and directions in business directories,
   * the season schedule or final score from sporting events,
   * routine communiqués announcing such matters as the hiring or departure of personnel,
   * brief announcements of mergers or sales of part of the business,
   * simple statements that a product line is being changed,
   * routine notices of facility openings or closings (e.g., closure for a holiday or the end of the regular season),
   * quotations from an organization's personnel as story sources, or
   * passing mention, such as identifying a quoted person as working for an organization.


Lastly, all claims of notability must be sourced. Use neutral, reliable, third-party sources to establish the importance of the subject, except the following: except for the following: 

   * press releases, press kits, or similar works;
   * self-published materials;
   * any material written by the organization, its members, or sources closely associated with it;
   * advertising and marketing materials by, about, or on behalf of the organization;
   * corporate websites or other websites written, published, or controlled by the organization;
   * any material written or published by the organization, directly or indirectly;
   * other works in which the company, corporation, organization, or group talks about itself—whether published by the company, corporation, organization, or group itself, or re-printed by other people.

Here is how to use in-text citations:

How references work[edit]

Simple references[edit]

These require two parts;

a)
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>
b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";
== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Junjoon/reftest and try it out.

Named references[edit]

Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook">
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates[edit]

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look; 

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.--Forty twothe answer? 18:42, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Junjoon. You have new messages at WP:FEED#Xeltek_inc..
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I replied to your request for feedback. If you have any questions, please send me a message. Thank you! Chevymontecarlo 06:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A suggestion[edit]

Hello, Junjoon. You have new messages at Chevymontecarlo's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I made a suggestion for improvement to your article. I hope it's useful! Chevymontecarlo 20:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Junjoon. You have new messages at Chevymontecarlo's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I made a suggestion about adding names to the references. Chevymontecarlo 06:11, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xeltek Inc.[edit]

A couple of things: 1) It is not "your" article

2) Just because one article sucks, doesnt mean that we allow poor standards to be applied to yet another article. If you want to use articles for examples to mimic, use the WP:GA and WP:FA articles - those that have been reviewed and acknowledged to represent the best aspects of our encyclopedic principals.

3) If other, third party sources with a reputation for accuracy and fact checking have written about the subject in a more than passing manner, then yes, the article is "notable", but those third party sources must actually be in the article for anyone to know that.

Hope that helps clarify. Active Banana ( bananaphone 17:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1) I didn't mean to say I own it I just meant to point to the article I was talking about.
2) I was not trying to mimic othercrap, And thank you for the link of articles I should mimic.
3) I just added those 3rd party sources into the article. Does it now establish notability?
4) Can you help me with which parts are seen as advertisement?
Thanks Junjoon (talk) 18:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Xeltek Inc.[edit]

A tag has been placed on Xeltek Inc., requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Codf1977 (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Articles for deletion nomination of Xeltek Inc.[edit]

I have nominated Xeltek Inc., an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xeltek Inc.. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Codf1977 (talk) 18:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:N[edit]

Notability isnt inherited. [1] Just because other companies use a product does not mean that the supplier has "recived significant coverage in third party reliable sources" that will indicate that it should have its own stand alone article. You should be looking for content in newspapers that arent merely press release regurgitations or reviews of the product in respected IT magazines / sites such as Wired. Active Banana ( bananaphone 19:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to add something like X has said this company has the best product because that seems like advertising. Am I wrong? The 3rd party sources I used are huge electronics companies and I feel myself that their coverage of the topic I am writing on seems to give enough notability to write an article. Junjoon (talk) 21:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 2010[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Xeltek Inc., you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
  2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Suggesting the deletion of a competitors page? How CHILDISH! WuhWuzDat 19:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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