Talk:Varney the Vampire

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Sympathetic Vampire Characters:[edit]

This archetype has been widely exemplified, notably by such characters as the vampire Louis in Anne Rice's Interview with the Vampire, Barnabas Collins in the TV soap opera Dark Shadows and Angel from the show Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Although I do understand the risks of listing far too many examples, I was wondering if Nick Knight of the Forever Knight series would be a suitable addition. Basically, since I'm fairly heavily into the fandom, it's hard to say what influence it's had outside it. Largely because I'm admittedly biased towards saying it has a striking significance. Thoughts? --Scandalous (talk) 03:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

reference to real Varney (Verney)[edit]

There was a real person-Thomas Varney or Verney who was the second son and a black sheep. He was accused of betraying Royalists to the Roundheads for money. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.124.163.129 (talk) 02:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

setting[edit]

The Napoleonic wars took place 1803-1815. Wouldn't that be consistent with a setting in the early 19th Century, rather than in contradiction? PurpleChez (talk) 19:10, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It says that the work was "ostensibly set" in the 18th century (per the source), but notes that the Napoleonic Wars references would date it to the 19th century. So the phrasing seems correct.— TAnthony^Talk 20:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

the other real Varney/Verney[edit]

Do we know if there's any connection to real life Sir Francis Verney, the 15th century English nobleman-turned-turncoat jihadist pirate? I understand that he was seen as quite the villainous character in his day, and the fact that he's one letter away from sharing Varney the Vampire's entire full name, including salutation, seems like one hell of a coincidence. — BrokenEye3 (talk) 11:33, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Varney" character in Castlevania[edit]

The appearance of the character Varney in Castlevania, the animated Netflix series, should probably be noted in the "legacy" section now, I think. It's consistent with additions that others have made. I'm just lazy and kind of paranoid that I would mess up the wording of it or something 0_0

Claims on aversion[edit]

"Unlike later fictional vampires, he is able to go about in daylight and has no particular fear of either crosses or garlic." Is the cited source for this, one Roxanne Hellman's "Vampire Legends and Myths", available anywhere to see? And is this something mentioned as an actual lack of fear anywhere in the serial, or is it noted merely due to the absence of mention? Zusty001 (talk) 22:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia is still trivia[edit]

@Dubarr18: Trivia, even if it's properly cited, is still trivia. We don't need a laundrey list of trivia. DonQuixote (talk) 15:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The section of which it comes from is listing references to Varney in pop culture meaning it is relevant to the page and section. There is no reason for the content to be removed from the page, no more than any other reference mentioned directly above it. As well as this @‎MagicAllium is now performing multiple disruptive edits throughout the site removing large amounts of content citing 'Lameness' or 'grammatical' errors which can be fixed rather than removing entire sections of a page. Dubarr18 (talk)

Listing a few is fine. Again, we should avoid laundrey lists if possible. Most of these things can be mentioned in their own respective articles. DonQuixote (talk) 16:00, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly thanks for fixing my own formatting. Currently the list as stands doesn't seem too excessive to me, perhaps if there are more examples though having a page itself could be fine. To my understanding other figures in pop culture have their own pages listing their appearances.Dubarr18 (talk)

Reviewing the list, The Man Who Invented Christmas should be removed because it only cites the primary source itself and the rest of the paragraph involves synthesis. Similarly, Dracula: Curse of the Vampire should be removed since it only cites the primary source. DonQuixote (talk) 16:07, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to 'Dracula: Curse of the Vampire' agree, apologies I had not noticed the citation before and it should be removed. With 'The Man Who Invented Christmas' I belief the first reference is a review of the film that references Varney, the second citation does indeed appear to be irrelevant to the film. Since the film appears to refer to him in a fictional context it would seem appropriate to remove it, since the page seems to be for listing his appearances but not references to him as a fictional entity. Dubarr18 (talk) 16:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, my bad, misread that one. I'll go ahead and remove Curse. DonQuixote (talk) 16:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing the list again I have noticed that in the second paragraph both 'Darcular: the series' and 'Anno Dracula' are uncited. In the first paragraph 'Darkwave' and 'The Vampire Murders' are similarly uncited. It would seem useful to either tag these as such or remove them in light of this. Dubarr18 (talk) 16:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead. DonQuixote (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the offer, unfortunately however due to previous edits I have reached 3r's already and am paranoid that a further edit would fall under edit warring. As well as this I worry my editing any further will aggravate a situation I am currently trying to resolve. I would be perfectly happy and thankful if you could make the change yourself in light of this, if not I can do so myself at a later time once the current situation is resolved. Thank you very much for your help during this. Regards, Dubarr18 (talk) 16:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. DonQuixote (talk) 16:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again for your help. I hope you have a good day. Regards, Dubarr18 (talk) 16:37, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've also removed a lot of unsourced assertions in Legacy. People can add them back with proper sources. DonQuixote (talk) 16:34, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is the setting confused?[edit]

It seems only the narrator references things like the Napoleonic war and not directly in connection to the story. This just implies the narrator is contemporary. - Count_Primula 150.143.58.85 (talk) 17:55, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]