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Former good article nomineeSlade was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Removed references to "two Slades" (2020)[edit]

Yes, Hill and Powell have split up, but there is no indication anywhere that the original band is being named "Dave Hill's Slade". Yes, Powell has announced he is forming "Don Powell's Slade" (something he hasn't done yet), but Hill continues to lead the original slade - it didn't "end" when Powell was kicked out. If any of this changes, please cite it correctly. SnoopingAsUsual (talk) 18:37, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talk[edit]

bloody hell , this band's origins in and contributions to the racist and violent skinhead movement has been glossed over and ignored to the point of censorship . and wikipedia wants money for hosting such crap misinformation ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.163.157 (talk) 19:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Educate yourself. Skinhead --Mfree (talk) 05:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

walsall, wolverhampton and bilston are all in the black country so what the hell are you on about?

Excuse me but Wolverhampton is NOT in the Black Country actually. There has always been debate about where the Black Country border ends.
This line in the introduction: Due to a number of changes in music fashion and the advent of punk and New Wave music, Slade's success had faded somewhat by the late 1970s - contrasts with this at the end of the main history - It is a myth that bands like Slade suffered because of punk. Punk never achieved great airplay, and during the mid-to-late 1970s mainstream acts such as ABBA and Blondie were most likely to be heard on mainstream radio. Punk was very rarely heard, and was very much suppressed by radio stations, apart from in specialist slots. Bands such as Slade had merely run their course.
My Dad reckons it's because they tried to break America, so the fucked off, failed and by the time they came back, no one cared here.--Crestville 15:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Crestville! (How come you didn't change Beatles to The Beatles?) As I remember it, Glam had had its day and Slade hadn't changed their sound so they suddenly became unfashionable. Seven or eight years later, with the same sound and stage show, they suddenly started selling records again.LessHeard vanU 22:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC) ps. I am as old as yer mam and da', so I know what I am writing about![reply]

I would like to see a little more background around their early years included in this article. For example, it is well known that Slade played a considerable amount of their early 'gigs' and practiced at The St Giles' Youth Club in Willenhall near Walsall. I feel that as the centre still exists as part of Walsall Metropolitan Council that there should be some sort of memorable plaque on the building indicating this fact.

In relation to Slade's fading popularity I would agree that by the mid 70s Slade's music was replaced by Soul, disco and the newly emerging new wave / punk sound. I think it had little to do with attempts to crack America. Other contemporaries of Slade such as T -Rex, Gary Glitter, etc all had declining success around the mid 70s. Slade's strength was always their songwriting abilities and their playing andlive shows. Their inclusion on rock festivals in the early 80s probably led to their resurgence around that time. However, their strength was aslo ther ability to wroite a crowd chanting chorous and melody, such as 'My oh my' etc. In any event I feel that it is time for a re evaluation of Slade, they were massive in the early 70s and were undoubtedly influential on other bands such as 'Kiss' etc.

ABBA - Actually, if we are to talk about Groups, it was ABBA who became so huge, in the UK, from 1976 on wards, that they ended up outselling and out Charting all the other big UK Groups of the 1970's. In 1971 to 1973 it looked like T. Rex & Slade would be the most successful Groups, in the UK Charts, for the 1970's. In both Singles & Albums. In 1974 to 1975 it looked like it would be the Bay City Rollers. Then ABBA had 3 UK No.1 Singles, in 1976 & the UK's Best Selling Album of 1976. ('Greatest Hits'). They had already had a UK No.1 Single in 1974, ('Waterloo'), & in 1977 to 1978, they also had 3 more UK No.1 Singles, that Decade. As well as having the UK's Best Selling Album of 1977, ('Arrival'), with 'Greatest Hits' as the 9th Best Seller for that Year. They also had the 3rd Best Selling Album of 1978, ('The Album'), and the 5th & 8th Best Sellers for 1979 - 'Voulez-Vous' & 'Greatest Hits Vol. 2'. No other Group, (or Act), had so many UK Sales & No.1's in the 1970's. ABBA went on to have their 8th, ('The Winner Takes It All'), & 9th, ('Super Trouper'), No.1 Singles, in 1980. As well as UK's Best Selling Album of 1980, with 'Super Trouper', & 'Greatest Hits Vol.2' was the 17th Best Seller of 1980. With the 'Super Trouper' Album not only being the Best Seller of 1980, but the 1st UK Album with 1,000,000 'Advance Orders'. In 1992 they released 'ABBA Gold' & that ended up with over 5,300,000 UK Sales & becoming 2nd only to 'Greatest Hits' by Queen, as regards the 'All Time' UK Best Selling Albums. No other Group had such UK success in the 1970's. Not Slade, T. Rex, or the Bay City Rollers. ABBA beat them all Internationally also. Queen went on to outsell ABBA in the UK, (Singles & Albums), in later Decades, but ABBA were far bigger than Queen in the 1970's - 7 UK No.1 Singles & 5 UK No.1 Albums - to 1 UK No.1 Single & 2 UK No.1 Albums for Queen, that Decade.. (Of course The Beatles were bigger than all of them, if we go back as far as the 1960's to the present...)86.2.61.136 (talk) 17:09, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]


This page needs to be updated : I saw Slade live a little more than a year ago, with Noddy. Noddy Holder left the group (and the music business) 1993. The current singer of Slade is Mal McNulty.

Please note that Universe did not chart. The information that the single reached #38 is false --/MB 20:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rose West[edit]

I read in a newspaper a while ago, that a former member of Slade had been writing to serial killer Rose West! And that he was intending to marry her! Is this correct? Or was it a former member of another 70s band? loren3 17:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Glover (bass in Slade II 2000-2003) is said to have had contact with Rose West, however he have always denied the rumors that they were going to be married

Fair use image removal[edit]

I have removed all or a majority of the fair use images on this page as their use was not in line with our Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria policy (likely in that the use is not minimal (3.a.) and it is in a list or a gallery (8.)) or our Wikipedia:Non-free content guideline that states that cover images may only be used for critical commentary on the cover itself, not just identification. Please do not re-add them without discussion. Kotepho 10:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

December 2008[edit]

Having read the comments above, and the main article, it is obvious both suffer from an overdose of myth, hear'say, fancruft bollocks and 'my dad reckons' etc., and very little in the way of cited, referenced sources. Remembering Verifiability, Citations and the Five Pillars, is there someone with a knowledge of the band and Wikipedia itself, that could knock this article into shape? For a start - Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums states - Top UK group of the 1970s. They were the first act to have three singles enter at No.1. All six of the Wolvertampton band's chart-topping stompers were penned by Holder and Lee. Total UK sales: 6,520,171. Best selling single - "Merry Xmas Everybody": 1,006,500.[1] would be better than that which currently purports to represent the band.

  1. ^ Roberts, David (2006). British Hit Singles & Albums (19th ed.). London: Guinness World Records Limited. p. 506. ISBN 1-904994-10-5.

How the hell it is rated as a 'B' class article is beyond me. Many thanks in anticipation.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have hoped to do some work on the article based on Noddy Holder's autobiography, among other sources, but have not been able to get to it just yet. I'd like to see Slade get to FA, but we do have a way to go here yet. Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Black Country[edit]

I see this has sparked a bit of controversy alread. As someone born and raised in Wolverhampton I absolutely deny that Wolverhampton is in the Black Country. That was always south of us.... 'In my opinion' - and without any agreed definition of where the Black Country starts and stops (or even where it got it's name from) you can never get beyond that. But why bother? This is suppossed to be an article about Slade - why bring up a controversial topic like Black Country geography at all? Just remove it. Nod came from Walsall, Jim and Don from Wolverhampton and Dave moved there from Devon when he was little. All verifiable fact - and all that is needed. SAHBfan (talk) 13:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Unbelievable that this page has no references! I have several books on Slade and I'm keen to try and add references where I can - but I'm a noob and so don't want to jump in where I'm not suppossed to... I'm a bit scared off by the wikiProject headings. SAHBfan (talk) 13:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pub Rock[edit]

This is the only time i've ever heard Slade's music described as such, probably because it is wholly incorrect. They made it big as part of the early 1970's Glam Rock boom, although they were the hardest rocking band to be so labelled. After their performance at Reading (1980), a farewell that turned into a comeback, they latched onto the burgeoning NWOBHM scene as the vehicle to rebuild their career leading to more mainstream chart hits in the 1980's. The pub rock scene of the 1970's was getting going whilst Slade were already too big to have been part of it, had they been so inclined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.235.139 (talk) 00:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


I agree with this. "Their music is commonly described as pub rock and, as such, a musical precursor to later lo-fi bands such as the Sex Pistols, The Clash".

Described by WHO? There is no citation or reference. This is just someones subjective opinion.

I know that in the Overview things aren't always referenced as the claims are fleshed out in the main body of the article - but this claim isn't mentioned again anywhere on the rest of the page - it certainly isn't referenced anywhere.

There is an excellent article here on wikipedia about pub rock. It starts off: "Pub rock was a mid- to late-1970s musical movement, largely centred around North London and South East Essex, particularly Canvey Island and Southend on Sea. " It goes on to say how the music was about 'getting back to basics' in small venues (pubs!)

What on earth has this got to do with the massivley successful, multiple number one single selling, late 60s formed Wolverhampton band, Slade? SAHBfan (talk) 09:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here, here. The pub rock claim is unreferenced, and spurious, at best. If someone can find credible, citable and reliable references, so be it; but until then I have removed the whole sentence in question. We are back to a basic philosophy of Verifiability, and I quote - The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Presently the whole article is unreferenced, and thus lends itself to all kinds of POV being added.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I have read this at least once but without citation it has no place here. But is "glam rock" a well-defined musical category (rather than a marketing category)? Rp (talk) 16:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Glam-rock"? "Pub-Rock"? I would respectfully disagree with both, by making a distinction between GLAM rock and GLITTER rock. IMO, GLAM was marked by a more androgynous (sp?) look and men basically nearly but not fully in DRAG. No facial hair, eye makeup, lipstick, rouge, female influenced hair styles, etc. Noddy with his mutton chops hardly qualifies. IMO, Slade was more GLITTER, with bizarre stage clothes, often with reflecting surfaces, huge platform shoes, etc. (Yeah, I know Dave is quite short.) With that said, Noddy was a very talented vocalist and front man, and they wrote very good pop songs. Better SLADE than punk, nu-metal or rap! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tremolux (talk • contribs) 16:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Total Rewrite?[edit]

Today I decided to make at start at referencing and added just one reference and a reflist. The problem is this: I intended to read through the article and add references to the works that I have. I didn't intend to change anything, just add references. Unfortunately in just the first few scentences it became apparent that the text is riddled with factual inaccuracies. Not neccesarily serious ones, but inaccurate never-the-less. This makes referencing difficult if not impossible. For example,the first scentence:

"The band started out as the N'Betweens in 1966 with Noddy Holder and amongst others were Tony Taylor (aka Big T), formed from members of two Midlands bands, The Vendors and Steve Brett & The Mavericks. They initially had little success, apart from on the local club circuit, where they were extremely busy and in the late 1960s the band changed its name to Ambrose Slade and hooked up with manager Chas Chandler. Their name was eventually shortened to Slade, and the band adopted a skinhead look, as an attempt to gain publicity from what was a newsworthy youth fashion trend. "

This is what the books tell me:

The 'N Betweens was a name change for The Vendors, adopted in 1964. Jim Lea joined in early 1966 and Noddy a bit later, but they still had Johnny Knowles as Lead Singer. None of the books I have give an exact date for the departure of Knowles, but it was probably late 1966 or early '67. I have found no reference to Tony Taylor. Noddy was the only member of Steve Brett and the Mavericks to move to the 'N Betweens. They seemed to be quite succesful touring most of the country, including Scotland and the south coast, Newquay, Torquay and Plymouth gets mentioned a lot in Noddy's biog. (Hardly the 'local circuit') They then did extensive touring in Germany... 'The band' didn't change their name to Ambrose Slade. The name was forced upon them against their wishes by Fontana Records when they were signed by their new agent Roger Allen. They were definately given the Skinhead image whislt they were still called Ambrose Slade, the name was shortened by Chandler shortly afterwards.

Everything I just said comes directly from Noddy's autobiography or from Parker & Grantley's book "Cum On Feel The Noize", none of it is my personal opinion.

Point is, almost nothing in that first scentence is exactly correct - and this continues with the whole article. It makes referencing very difficult. I wonder, does the whole thing need re-writing? SAHBfan (talk) 09:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, definitely. My comments above allude to the fact that most of this article is based on nothing, apart from hear'say and fancruft. Be bold and add as many references as you can find. I suspect you will discover that little of the present article's wording will remain intact. My very best wishes for your proposed endeavours.
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 10:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am currently working overseas and both time and internet access are not as free as I would wish, but when I'm back in the UK (quite soon) I will give it a go. Give me a week or two... 82.112.134.38 (talk) 21:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Missing citations[edit]

The following has been removed from the main article, as all is unreferenced. Please respect verifiability and sources if any, some, or all of the following is to reappear in the main article.

"Slade was certainly our greatest influence; not only in the crafting of rock songs but also as performers. Before Slade, no one really knew shit about how to make an audience riot. We really got off on that. There would probably never have been us without them". - Gene Simmons (Kiss)

"And when I look at the greatest hits section by Sweet, or Slade, or any other of my favourite bands, there are TONS of compilation records". - Gene Simmons (Kiss) - Interview, Utopia Records website.

"I spent most of the early 70s listening to Slade Alive! thinking to myself, "Wow - this is what I want to do. I want to make that kind of intensity for myself. A couple of years later I was at CBGB's doing my best Noddy Holder". - Joey Ramone (Ramones)

"Slade never compromised. We always had the feeling that they were on our side. I don't know but I think we were right". - Steve Jones (Sex Pistols)

"They are a good group. I wanted to join them!" - Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmore's Night)

"I couldn't do the heavy rock thing anymore. Noddy Holder was around kicking every singer in the ass. I never wanted to be a pop singer. Christ, how I hated Noddy!" - Tom Jones

"Slade was the coolest band in England. They were the kind of guys that would push your car out of a ditch". - Alice Cooper

"Slade was never pretentious. It was just music to them. Pop, rock, soul....it was all the same to Slade. They wrote great songs. And, besides, I'd like to raid their wardrobe". - Noel Gallagher (Oasis)

"The whole punk rock thing really happened because of bands such as Slade and the like; rock bands that wouldn't back off". - Paul Weller (The Jam/The Style Council)

"Absolutely. Slade! A band that would never bend over". - Kurt Cobain (Nirvana)

"Slade was pretty much the only thing metal about glam rock in the 70s". - Nikki Sixx (Mötley Crüe) Ironically, Slade would replace Mötley Crüe as the opening act for Ozzy Osbourne.

"Whatever happened to bands that rocked liked Slade? Y'know, that no-bullshit, fuck you, in your face, we're bad-as-hell-and-we-know-it kind of band?" - David Coverdale (Whitesnake)

Christopher Guest and Harry Shearer based their fictional band Spinal Tap, in the film, This is Spinal Tap, on the 'tour diaries' of numerous UK heavy metal and glam bands. The events occurring to Spinal Tap in the film are based on the real exploits of not only Slade but also Deep Purple, Saxon, Led Zeppelin and Ozzy Osbourne.

Slade's track "Give Us A Goal" was used in the FIFA 2009 television advertisement in 2008.

The band was the first to take the risk of booking the Earls Court Exhibition Centre in London for a couple of nights (although David Bowie promptly booked the venue for a couple of dates before Slade were due to perform).

Most of the above was marked with a {Citation needed} tag dated August 2008. Enough is enough. Thank you,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes WITH citations[edit]

I've been going through my books about, or including, Slade looking for verifiable quotes. Here's a few, more to follow:

"There was a new skinhead band around, and they had bigger stacks of amps, and they were louder than we were. And we didn't like that!" - Rick Parfitt, Status Quo (1)

"They were a proper geezer's band, but they dressed like the Diddy Men, didn't they?" - Noel Gallagher, Oasis (1)

"Slade were certsinly our greatest influence; not only in the crafting of rock songs but also as performers. Before Slade, no one really knew shit about how to make an audience riot. We really got off on that.There would probably never have been us without them." - Gene Simmonds, Kiss (1)

"When Slade broke in 1972 I began to get really nervous. Here I am killing myself to write the next incredible riff and then I see these four blokes pounding out four chords over and over, and loving every minute of it. I bought all of their albums and thought, maybe I wanted to join the band. Bands like Slade really inspired me to get back to my root of inspiration: heavy, intelligent but fun rock and roll." - Ritchie Blackmore, Deep Purple (1)

"They should have been the biggest thing since the Beatles in America." - Ozzy Osbourne (1)

"Slade! A band that would never bend over." - Kurt Cobain, Nirvana (1)

"Whatever hapenned to bands that rocked like Slade? Y'know, that no-bullshit, fuck you, in your face, we're bad-as-hell-and-we-know-it kind of band?" - David Coverdale, Whitesnake (1)

"There's more to be learned about the nature of class warfare from a Slade gig than from just about any other current cultural event" (2)


1. "Cum On Feel The Noize - The Story Of Slade" Alan Parker & Steve Grantley, Carlton Books 2006 ISBN 978-1-84442-151-0

2. Charles Shaar Murray, NME, 29 September 1973

SAHBfan (talk) 09:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move[edit]

Please note that the article has been moved to Slade (band) by another editor. I then perfomed a requested housekeeping move to have the dab page at Slade. If this is fine a lot of links to Slade need to be fixed. Otherwise the move should be reversed.--Tikiwont (talk) 11:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Having doubts already per above, I've speedily undone both moves before we spent more time with the links. In case of doubt please open a fresh listing at WP:RM Tikiwont (talk) 13:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slade (band) → Slade — Inbound links suggest that the band is definitely the primary definition here. Page was moved without any consensus. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Greenslade?[edit]

I thought the band were called Greenslade at some point in their history. Anybody have any info on that? I think I got that from the sleevenotes of an album but don't have access to my vinyl at the moment. As an aside, I was lucky enough to see Slade live and they were definitely 'a live band'. I wonder if their popularity waned when they stopped touring.--Ykraps (talk) 08:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I think you are referring to a band called Greenslade, fronted by Dave Greenslade. However, Slade's original name was Ambrose Slade ... Chilkoot (talk) 10:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably right, I'm getting confused. It happens as you get older :). Thanks--Ykraps (talk) 08:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No worries my friend. If you type Ambrose Slade into the search field on Wikipedia it redirects you to the Slade home page. I too was fortunate enough to see Slade live at Leeds University in 1974 on the Sladest tour and at Reading Festival in 1980 (their best performance ever in my opinion)when they replaced Black Sabbath at a moments notice and had the crowd singing Merry Christmas Everybody in the middle of August. Rock on Noddy!!! .. Chilkoot (talk) 13:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Petergriffin9901 (talk • message • contribs • count • logs • email) 10:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Again a Near-automatic fail - Many issues persist
  • Lead does not sufficiently summarize important aspects of their career
  • Several instances where you go completely off topic
  • Too much info on individual song peaks and not enough discussion on the albums and development and musical styles
  • Several unformated or poorly done sources; several unreliable
  • Violated MoS like crazy, and has difficult paragraphing and awkward phrasing
  • Poor usage or quotations from professional sources.
  • Overall this article needs a lot of work. Seven days.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 10:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the info and the review of the article. I am away from the 4th to the 7th this month so I may require a little more time.

The lead doesn't summarize the band's career and so I will try to edit this soon. The paragraphs could be slightly altered indeed but any indication on what violates MoS would be useful. Also, any info on where the article goes off-topic as well as what sources are unreliable would be much appreciated. Thanks. Ajsmith141 (talk) 15:21, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see a lot of work has been put into the article, so if you need an extension, that's okay, as long as you being productive with the extra time.
  • The last three sections read like big lists. They need to be changed and have to read like an encyclopedia
  • The paragraphing is very awkward and forced. One line paragraphs?
  • many quote and lines are completely unreferenced
  • Many, many unreliable and poorly formatted references. Many of dead-links, many are just random unreliable sources, and other are just blank URLs.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 18:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Putting in some additional comments here, some of the MOS issues that immediately spring to mind include:

This list is not exclusive, and it up to the reviewer whether they are enough to negate GA status, but it would be good to get them right and I hope this helps. For me greater problems in the general use of English. All the isolated one-sentence paragraphs towards the end of the article need sorting, and there a lot of issues with plurals and commas - too many to list here. The biggest issue is the cumbersome language. For example:

"As a result of the band's success, the group hurriedly released the extended play titled "Live at Reading" a month later which peaked at #44, the band's first chart action in the UK since 1977. Another extended play was released, titled "Xmas Ear Bender" which peaked at #70 in November. Polydor Records had seen the opportunity to capitalise on the band's new success by releasing the compilation Slade Smashes! at the beginning of November. The album peaked at #21 in the UK for a total of fifteen weeks. The album was certified UK Gold in December, selling 200,000 copies."

would be much better if it was something like:

"The band's success led to the hurried released of the extended play "Live at Reading", which peaked at number 44, the band's first chart appearance in the UK since 1977. Another extended play, "Xmas Ear Bender", peaked at number 70 later that year. Polydor attempted to capitalise on the band's renewed success by releasing the compilation Slade Smashes! at the beginning of November. The album peaked at number 21 in the UK for a total of 15 weeks and was certified UK Gold in December, selling 200,000 copies."

That kind of copy edit could probably reduce the size of the article by 1/8 or more, without saying anything less of significance. Hope that helps.--SabreBD (talk) 13:05, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really nice of you Sabre. Thanks for explaining it to him. Your comments are always welcome :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 18:41, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the info, I have been through the entire article. All # have been replaced with numbers, sentences flow better although they could still use the reduction idea above. Quotes are not in italics, periods in years are changed and the legacy/awards/musical style has been changed - not complete yet but looking better.Ajsmith141 (talk) 12:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Important - Just to let you know, I must close the review by the 11th, as I am going away, so if its not ready by Sunday, I'm afraid this will result in a fail.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 23:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing to delete large parts of this article.[edit]

This article contains a lot of information about the individual members of the band which I am proposing to delete and, where appropriate, add to the already existing articles of: Noddy Holder, Jim Lea, Don Powell, Dave Hill. My reasoning is that the article, as it stands, seems overly long and should concentrate on the band as a whole. Comments anyone?--Ykraps (talk) 07:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It won't be a big shock that I agree that you should cut down this material, since an article about a band should be about the band. It may be worth seeing if any of this can be moved to articles for the members.--SabreBD (talk) 08:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am happy to see any info moved to the articles for the members, originally I added the information all on the Slade page as the seperate member articles need a lot more attention. The first mention of a 'solo' release is The Dummies around 1979/1980 but this relates to Slade as the group covered Slade songs to see if the band's writing was the problem or if Slade were simply ignored by radio.

The ending paragraph of the Comeback and heavy metal following (1980-82) section explains that Lea re-released a Dummies song under a new name, backed by a new b-side which was a Slade cover, whilst the Poland single is Slade related - as it is a re-working of a Slade track. Both Holder and Lea working with Girlschool in 1983 relates again as the group recorded two Slade tracks.

Simple Love by Sue Scadding was a Holder/Lea composition although it is debatable on whether it belongs here as two members are involved. The Gary Holton, Annabella Lwin and The Redbeards From Texas production by Lea are not exactly Slade-related and could be moved to Lea's article although the aftermath section does state what each member went on to do anyway. Ajsmith141 (talk) 12:06, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Initially, I would like to lose:

  • (Wilderness Years, paragraph 6) The group released three singles, "When The Lights Are Out", "Didn't You Use To Use To Be You" and "Maybe Tonight". The first single was a cover, originally appearing on Slade's 1974 album Old New Borrowed and Blue.
  • (Wilderness Years, paragraph 6) "Didn't You Use To Use To Be You" was listed in BBC Radio One's 'A' playlist, meaning the song was expected to become a top ten hit. The cover featured Lea's daughter, Bonny. "Maybe Tonight" featured Roy Wood on vocals with Holder, who sang a total of four lines. Later in 1992, an album "A Day in the Life of the Dummies" was released. It included all the material recorded by the band.
  • (Comeback and heavy metal following, paragraph 8) Lea had also been busy.............. Cut entire paragraph, perhaps with a note to say Lea was working on other projects during 1982.
  • (American breakthrough, paragraph 11) In 1983, Holder joined Lea........ Replace entire paragraph with - In late 1983, Holder joined Lea in record production, producing among other things, Girlschool's cover of the T-Rex song "20th Century Boy" and the album "Play Dirty" which featured two Slade tracks "Burning in the Heat of Love" and "High and Dry".(or similar).
  • (American breakthrough, paragraph 14) Lea produced and played all the instruments on two singles released in '84 by Gary Holton, "Catch a Falling Star" and "That's How the Story Goes". Neither achieved any success.
  • (Decline in popularity, paragraph 4) During the year, Lea released his only solo single under his own name entitled "Citizen Kane". Written by both Holder and Lea, it featured Noddy on backing vocals.
  • (Decline in popularity, paragraph 6) That same year, Lea produced and performed all the instruments except drums, played by Lea's brother, on two singles by Annabella Lwin. The first single was a cover of the Alice Cooper hit "School's Out" whilst the other single, "Fever", was written by Eddie Cooley and John Davenport. Both singles failed to have any impact. Lea also produced two covers by the rock band, The Redbeards From Texas; a Beatles' track, "I Saw Her Standing There", and Slade's own 1972 hit Gudbuy T'Jane. Niether were successful. (But add note to say - in 1986 Redbeards of Texas, a band produced by Lea, released the 1972 hit Gudbuy t'Jane).
  • (Decline in popularity, paragraph 9) Holder recorded "Tear Into the Weekend" for a Pepsi commercial in Canada and in November. And Lea produced "Shooting Me Down" for the English hard rock band Chrome Molly that year. Written by Holder and Lea, the single was unsuccessful.
  • (Decline in popularity, paragraph 10) The debut single, released in 1989 for the Christmas market was a cover of The Everly Brothers "Crying in the Rain" , backed by a Hill/Hunt composition, "Wild Nights". The record was a commercial failure. The band also recorded a cover of the Elvis Presley song "A Fool Such As I" which wasn't released. The final single, "Chance to Be" was composed by Daniel Somers and Colin Baines and unlike the first single, did not feature Holder on vocals but an unknown female vocalist. The b-side was a track written by Hill entitled "You're the Reason that I'm Strong". Released in 1990, the single was a charity record intended to raise money for Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 2) Through the 1990s, Holder hosted his own radio show on Piccadilly 1152 in Manchester. Lea who had been studying psychotherapy although he had not taken it up as a career, released a number of singles in the 90s: "Hello Goodbye", under the name Gang of Angels and his reworking of "Coz I Luv You" twice, under the names "The X Specials" and "Jimbo feat Bull". The song was produced and arranged by Jimbo with Lea playing all the instruments.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 3) In 1999, Holder was cast in the comedy television drama, The Grimleys which ran until 2001. For the series, Holder recorded acoustic versions of the Slade songs "Coz I Luv You", "Cum On Feel the Noize" and "Mama Weer All Crazee Now". Holder's autobiography, Who's Crazee Now?, was first published in 1999 while in the same year Lea released another single, "I'll Be John, You Be Yoko" under the name Whild.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 4) ......and his voice was famously recorded for lift announcements at the Walsall New Art Gallery. Between 2000 and 2004, Holder hosted his own radio show on Capital Radio.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 5) In 2002, Lea appeared live for the second time since the early 1990s titled "Jim Jam" where he performed an entire set list of tracks for a charity event at the Robin 2 venue in Bilston, near Slade's old local pub, The Trumpet. An official album was released in 2007. The only other time Lea was seen in public was once for a local protest against a motorway development in his home area before the Robin event.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 6) In November 2004, Holder made a guest appearance in the second episode of Max and Paddy's Road to Nowhere - where he played a garage mechanic called Mick Bustin. From 2005 Holder has appeared in an advertisement campaign for Nobby's Nuts and Crisps. Over the last twelve years Holder has voiced and appeared in many adverts for TV, film and radio.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 7) In 2006, Holder made a guest appearance in a music video for the Misty's Big Adventure single, "Fashion Parade". Holder also occasionally appeared on the BBC show Grumpy Old Men. Holder became a regular TV critic and reviewer for The Mark Radcliffe and Stuart Maconie Show on BBC Radio 2.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 8) In 2007, Lea released his first solo album titled Therapy, which received positive reception upon release. The album featured Lea's own version of Slade's last single "Universe". Holder was the third celebrity to be inducted onto the Birmingham Walk of Stars. Around 27,000 people attended his induction ceremony, which took place on 9 December 2007 at Birmingham's 2007 Canal Boat Light Parade. The remastered series also included the release of a new compilation titled B-Sides which featured all of the band's b-sides in their career.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 9) Every Christmas between 2007 and 2010, Holder has recorded a TV show countdown of hit Christmas tunes. On 24 December 2008, Holder appeared on British TV's BBC humorous news quiz show, Have I Got News for You as a member of Paul Merton's team.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 10) In January 2010, Holder and his wife appeared on All Star Mr & Mrs on ITV where they won the jackpot for charity. And, Powell is currently collaborating with Lise Lyng Falkenberg on his biography.
  • (Aftermath and recent years, paragraph 11) Entire paragraph.

All of which, I think, could be successfully incorporated into other articles. I will begin work on this shortly providing there are no strong objections but if there are still aspirations to take this article to GA, it will need some drastic editing.--Ykraps (talk) 17:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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"the last thing we want to do is to mess around [with] the people who have put us where we are" To "mess (someone) around" is to ill-use them, say one thing then do another regardless if it hurts or harms them. That is obviously the intended meaning here. Whereas to "mess around with" someone is to associate with them, including an implication of having sex with them. That's plainly not what is being said. So why the parenthetic "with"? Nuttyskin (talk) 17:30, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree - I don't know why the "with" was added to the quote. I have just removed it from the article. Ajsmith141 (talk) 14:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Glam Rock - solely ?[edit]

For the lead. I just wonder if we couldn't use "hard Glam Rock" instead ? Boeing720 (talk) 02:14, 24 October 2017 (UTC) Far Far Away...[reply]

I think it might be worth just using "Slade are an English rock band", similar to the opening line of Queen's article. You are right that the band were not just a Glam rock band. The height of their commercial success was indeed during the Glam rock era, but they did not begin as a Glam rock band in the 1960s, and they certainly moved onto other styles of Rock in the later 1970s and throughout the 1980s. Do any editors have any thoughts on this? Ajsmith141 (talk) 16:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The current Slade sell themselves as Glam Rock but as above, the original group were going long before Glam and after it had waned. They are a Glam group but were pop and rock.--Egghead06 (talk) 16:22, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Glam rock was just a fashion thing for them. Their 60s stuff wasn't glam. Even their glam-era music was largely boogie-rock and pop. Then they had a second wind with their hard rock material. 'Rock' is the best description for the lede. --Michig (talk) 16:29, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Cup of Soup[edit]

I have often heard mention of Cup of Soup and Slade, but there is no mention here. I came to Wikipedia to find out more about Slade and Cup of Soup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4B00:87FF:9B00:7C00:373A:1BA7:9DB4 (talk) 21:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be confused[edit]

Someone added, “Not to be confused with Sade (band) or Slave (band).” What about Snape (character), or grape (fruit)? I’m illustrating how absurd this instruction is. Nicmart (talk) 17:07, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

=Origin of name[edit]

Does any one know how they got their name? If so, this would make an interesting addition to the article. Vorbee (talk) 17:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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