Talk:Hazard (song)

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August 13, 2009	Good article nominee	Not listed

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Twin Peaks[edit]

Hazard was released at the same time as the TV series Twin Peaks was aired. The song seems was obviously inspired by the TV series, for example, the small northern town, the murder, the suspect was a misunderstood loner, etc. Shouldn't this be mentioned? abelson (talk) 12:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate for deletion[edit]

This article seems like a candidate. Decoratrix 17:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is a poor article but the song is notable under Wikipedia:Notability (songs), by its chart positions, and is one of his most famous songs. Rigadoun (talk) 17:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation[edit]

What is the point of having a disambiguation page for this song? There are no cited sources; the song is pretty much self explanatory and is indeed fiction. This should be a candidate for deletion. Here is a link to some information on the song itself. --Candy156sweet 22:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements Made[edit]

I made what I think are some major improvements to this article. I sectioned it, provided a more neutral and organized form, and cleaned it up. I don't think this should be deleted because 1) it was a popular song at one time, 2) people still talk about "who killed Mary" 16 years after the song was written, and 3) most songs that were released as singles have a page available for them - why not this one too?? MplsNarco 04:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I eyed it up and looks like you did a great job - it's much clearer now. Also I concur with the facts you have mentioned, the song is notable by wikipedias notability standards too.

Speculation and Original Research[edit]

The article seems to conatin very much speculation and original research (see WP:NOR). Shouldn't we take out the speculations about the murder? --J-Star (talk) 11:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't think it's a bad thing they're there (adding more mystery also adds more interest). It's not a real fact so I doubt it's that prejudicial. I recently saw another video on YouTube entitled "Hazard part 2" where there is a fourth scenario: Mary committed suicided. Maybe we should add this one too ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.122.244.15 (talk) 12:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article contains a lot of speculation. As mentioned above, there is a second video, when the coroner/lawyer says he will declare she drowned, implying that the first video's hints as to who the murderer was were all wrong, and Mary committed suicide out of shame/self-disgust at betraying Marx's character. The first video was released when the song first launched, to create the mystery (and word-of-mouth for the video), and the second one was released later to answer the questions, although I admit this suffers from an unreliable narrator. The evidence was strangling with the scarf would lead to ligature marks, and the coroner found none. I guess this is why are still talking about the video after all this time, but the second video undoubtedly implies suicide, which should be addressed.13:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jezcentral (talk • contribs)

Number of Videos[edit]

The article states that there were three videos filmed and aired, but I have never been able to find more than two, and several youtube users suggest that the third one was never finished/aired. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tkwtOyRSk&feature=related ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.20.116.193 (talk) 07:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I remember than MTV Europe aired once all 3 videos in their show called "3 in 1" (i think this show ran weekdays from 5:45pm-6:00pm). But i missed to turn on the tv that day in time, so i missed them :/ Because of that i did several times a search for all of them, but did not succeed till now. --79.206.207.42 (talk) 23:22, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion between 'narrator' and Marx[edit]

This article is terribly muddled between the 'narrator' of the song's story and Marx himself. In reality, surely there is no suggestion that the song is actually autobiographical. In which case many of the references to Marx should be changed to 'the narrator' or something similar. Peteinterpol (talk) 09:48, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Billboard chart position[edit]

Did it peak at no 9 or no 56 in the Billboard Hot 100? Both figures are given at different points in the article. The supporting link for the second reference appears to go to a private individual's website that may not be reliable. Peteinterpol (talk) 16:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]