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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by SchroCat 20:04, 1 December 2013 [1].

The Office (U.S. season 9)[edit]

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Nominator(s): Gen. Quon (Talk) 22:01, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets all the requirements that have been laid out by Wikipedia:Featured list criteria. I've had people mention that these articles should be FANs, so I'd like to point out that seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, and 8 of the series were promoted to Featured Lists, and many television series' season pages have been promoted to FLs before; I just want to maintain consistency. The prose is of Good Article quality (which is passed a few months ago), it features alt text, images, pristine references, and MOS-complying tables. While any critiques would inevitably make this better, I feel it is ready for the next step.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 22:01, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support: Great job on prose and organization.
--Birdienest81 (talk) 16:26, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Lemonade51 (talk) 18:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "The ninth season of the show is produced by Reveille Productions and Deedle-Dee Productions", past tense, so was.
  • "which was created by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant for the BBC"
  • "In a conference call with reporters on August 21, 2012, Greg Daniels", Greg has been introduced in the previous paragraph, so it's fine to refer to him by his second name thereafter.
  • "On May 2, the petition amassed..." for consistency state the year.
    I have implemented your suggestions.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:02, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unhyphenate 'most watched'
  • "For the first sixteen episodes, the series was able to maintain roughly 4 million viewers per episode", tad repetitive? To get rid of the last bit, change to something like 'For each of the first 16 episodes...'
  • "This means that, on average, the season...", change to past tense
  • "Based on seven reviews, review aggregation website", repetition?
  • "Michael Tedder of Vulture wrote that he was", replace word with commented. Lemonade51 (talk) 20:55, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    All have been changed, per your suggestions.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 04:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Lemonade51 (talk) 18:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I like the format. I am only wandering if some entry should be included in the table about the retrospective episode. Nergaal (talk) 15:30, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmmm, it's mentioned in the "Production" section, but because its not an officially sanctioned episode, I did not include it in the episode list infobox.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 00:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Prose is excellent and I see no other issues. Great job!Caringtype1 (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment (leaning oppose): This looks like it should be a featured article candidate, not list. The list is nowhere close to even 50% of the article. There are 22k characters of prose taking up 4 or 5 screens on my laptop, while the list only takes up 2.5 screens and is nowhere near 22k (I'd be surprised if it hit 8k characters) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:36, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    As I point out above, season 1, 2, 3, 4, and 8 of the show are featured lists. I nominated this as a FLN to maintain consistency. There are also plenty of other shows that have their season pages as FLs. It was also pointed out to me that an article like this with such a prominent list probably wouldn't fare well in FAN.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 02:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    None of those you point to are 22k of text. Homicide: Life on the Street (season 1) and Homicide: Life on the Street (season 2) are both featured articles, as are Parks and Recreation (season 1) and Smallville (season 1). Season articles can pass FAC, and this one should be sent that way. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:02, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    I just wanted to maintain consistency here. I'll do whatever is needed.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:12, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    SchroCat alerted me to this one, in my capacity as a FAC coordinator. I have to admit that I'm surprised the earlier season pages were classified as lists rather than articles. In my experience, the list component of a list page is the main thing. Here, and indeed in the other Office FLs, the prose section comprises at least half the page. In fact, albeit on a more superficial level, if this is truly counted as a list, why isn't it "List of The Office (U.S. season 9) episodes"? As Crisco suggests, FAC seems a more appropriate venue for this and similar pages. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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