Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Seinfeld (season 2)/archive1

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Seinfeld (season 2)[edit]

I believe this list meets criteria and follow the same style as similar FLs. --Gman124^talk 02:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco

~~Oppose/~~Comments from Truco (talk · contribs) ~~- does not meet WP:WIAFL~~

Unfortunately, its premiere was postponed one week due to the commencement of the first Gulf War. - 1)Unfortunately is not adhering to a WP:NPOV (neutral POV) 2)Link to first Gulf War

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It comprises 12 episodes and concluded its initial airing on June 26, 1991. - compromises should be compromised

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Starting this season, Seinfeld was filmed before a live studio audience on stage 19 of the CBS lot in Studio City, California. - by Starting this season do you mean "Beginning with this season," or do you mean it as "The season began"?

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The DVD boxset for seasons 1 & 2 was released by Sony Pictures Home Entertainment in Region 1 on November 23, 2004, thirteen years after it had completed broadcast on television. - change the & to "and"

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As well as every episode from the two seasons, the DVD release features bonus material including deleted scenes, exclusive stand-up material, and commentaries. - the beginning of the sentence should be reworded to "In addition to every episode from the two seasons,"

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Production and Reception

To be consistent with the preceding season, shouldn't the cast be in a "Crew" section?

In the previous season, all of the sub-sections of the Production seacion have been merged together. Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The ratings at the start of season two were extremely disappointing and caused NBC to put the show on hiatus until its return almost two months later. - extremely is also not adhering to a NPOV, reword to "were poor" or something along those lines like in the season 1 article

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NBC pulled the series was from its Wednesday night at 9:30 timeslot after just four weeks. - remove the was

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When the series returned in April, its high ratings over the following weeks led to a thirteen episode order for the 3rd season. - be consistent with the format of the season names, changed 3rd to "third"

Done Changed it to third. Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By the end of this season, Seinfeld was being declared a "hit" by critics. - is this verified by ref #10?

I put a ref after this line. Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes

George takes Jerry's advice and breaks off their relationship. - wouldn't this be "breaks up"?

"Breaks off" is acceptable English.

After George tells him that he doesn't mind his dating Marlene, Jerry decides to pursue her. - his should be "him"

No, "his" should be "his" because "dating" is a gerund, which needs to be preceded by a genetive. Otto4711 (talk) 18:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry makes an off-color remark ("I hate anyone who ever had a pony when they were growing up!") at an aunt's dinner, which subsequently may have led to her death. - 1)Why is Jerry linked here? It should be linked in the first episode and or not at all since its in the body prose already. 2)redundant to link to Pony IMO

Done Gman124^talk 15:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When she finally arrives and they leave for the restaurant and see it is snowing. ---> When she finally arrives, they leave for the restaurant and see it is snowing.

Done Gman124^talk 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

as they walk a short distance during a snowfall, Jerry's jacket gets ruined. - capitalize as

Done Gman124^talk 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Though at first excited, Jerry later realizes how intrusive Elaine might become. - comma after though

Done Gman124^talk 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry is furious, and, with the help of Kramer, plots to pour a bag of cement into the washing machine. - remove the comma after and

Done Gman124^talk 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George goes with Kramer's advice, and when George, Kramer and Jerry meet the holistic healer, he gives George tea to fix his tonsil problem. - comma before and Jerry

Done I have put the comma, but I think it is acceptable both ways. I think it doesn't matter if there is a comma before and in a list. Though, I may be wrong.Gman124^talk 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry, George and Elaine decide to get dinner without reservations at a Chinese restaurant, but are repeatedly stymied by the maître d'. - comma before and

Done Gman124^talk 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

Like in the season 1 list, make the references in to general and specific references.--TRUCO 16:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Gman124^talk 05:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - problems resolved to meet WP:WIAFL.--TRU CO 22:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - one of the rules for WP:FAC is that the same editor may not nominate more than one article at a time. I am unsure if the same rule applies here but if so then this nomination should be closed until the nomination for Seinfeld (season 1) is concluded. Might want to check with an FL wrangler. Otto4711 (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Not at WP:FLC, users usually are usually able to nominate up to 3, since lists are less complex to review and is a less complex process as opposed to FAC.--TRU CO 22:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I have asked the FL director, Scorpion0422, and he says he has no problem with more than one nomination by the same editor. Gman124^talk 14:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - It is usually fair that for each FLC nominated, the nominator should review another in return. Gman124 seems to have done that, so it is all fair and well. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) The writing in this article is better, but it is still not at FL quality yet. If I feel up to it, I might do some copy-editing myself. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"start on January 16, 1991. Its premiere "-->start on January 16, 1991. However, its premiere

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"It comprised of 12 episodes "

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"This season received"-->Season two received

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"thirteen years" Numbers over nine should be written in numerals.

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"This season was directed " Same as two bullets above. The "this" back-reference is often a bit confusing, better to refer to the noun directly.

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

" Barney Martin replaced Phil Bruns as Jerry's Father ~~starting this season~~." Understood from larger context.

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"and caused NBC to put the show on hiatus"-->causing NBC to put the show on hiatus

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"after ~~just~~ four weeks"

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"thirteen episode order" Compound adjective, should be "thirteen-episode order"

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"rings with truth and familiarity, as well as laughter and just plain silliness." Logical punctuation (WP:PUNC), period should be outside the quotation marks.

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"The episodes "The Pony Remark" You are only talking about one episode here, why "The episodes"?
"~~The episode~~ "The Deal" was ~~also~~" Understood by now that you are talking about episodes.

Done --Gman124^talk 23:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"George comes to Jerry complaining about his girlfriend Marlene"-->George complains to Jerry about his girlfriend Marlene

Done --Gman124^talk 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"George takes Jerry's advice and breaks off their relationship" Not clear who "their" is.

Done --Gman124^talk 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"George insists Jerry see Marlene to get back some books" Repetition of "insists" is a bit annoying. Insert "that" after "insists". Is there a better word than "get back"? (rhetorical question)

Done How about if I use regain or reover--Gman124^talk 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Jerry suddenly finds himself in a relationship with Marlene." Not possible. Clarify.

Done Changed the sentence a little bit--Gman124^talk 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"However, after seeing his act," Which act? Don't leave readers in the dark.

Done --Gman124^talk 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Those are most of the issues from the lead through the first episode summary. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Further down: "a starving Elaine mentions that she is so hungry that she would eat food off of another patrons plate" Spot the two redundant consecutive words.

Done I think it's fixed now. --Gman124^talk 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"They question her as she walked away, losing the wager." So they lose the wager as they question her? Dabomb87 (talk) 19:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elaine looses the wager. --Gman124^talk 00:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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