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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:26, 20 January 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Paul Rudd on screen and stage[edit]

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Nominator(s): LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it's a well sourced and extensive list of his work. LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Cowlibob, @SNUGGUMS and @Krimuk2.0 (as they've added comments to previous FLC of mine) to see if they'd have time and interest in adding their feedback. Nom has been sitting a while so trying to get more input :) Thank you all! LADY LOTUS • TALK 21:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "whose career began in 1992 when he was cast in the role of Kirby Philby in the TV series Sisters until 1995" - this reads a bit oddly. I would suggest "whose career began in 1992 when he was cast in the role of Kirby Philby in the TV series Sisters, a role he played until 1995"
  • "Rudd has appeared in numerous films directed and produced by Judd Apatow whom he frequently collaborates with including" => "Rudd has appeared in numerous films directed and produced by Judd Apatow, with whom he frequently collaborate, including"
  • "He is set to reprise the role again the upcoming 2023 film" => "He is set to reprise the role again in the upcoming 2023 film"
  • "December 2007" is a pretty blah caption. Could it be expanded to say where he was?
  • Chuck/Kunu has no spacing but Scott Lang / Ant-Man does
  • Think that's all I got, great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    All  Done plus I added more to all the image captions. Thank you CTD! LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi CTD! I've had more input from users, can you take another look and let me know if I need more supports or if this would be good to promote? Thank you! LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:02, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dank[edit]

  • Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
  • Table captions are required, with or without an sronly template, so I added them.
  • "Scott Lang / Ant-Man": appears to be a MOS violation per MOS:SLASH, but I see slashes used in this way from time to time, so I'm wondering if people have come to an understanding that I'm not aware of.
  • Checking the FLC criteria:
  • 1. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the table.
  • 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
  • 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
  • 3b. The UPSD tool is marking one of the sources in red (TV.com, and that's also a dead link), and four sources in yellow ... I'm not sure how to handle this, so I'm going to punt sourcing issues over to whoever does your source review.
  • 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
  • 4. It is navigable.
  • 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
  • 6. It is stable.
  • Close enough for a support (but I'll take another look at this after the source review, to make sure). Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 22:38, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by[edit]

  • "In 1995, he co-starred in his feature film debut alongside Alicia Silverstone in the cult classic Clueless, one of his more notable early roles, as well as Tommy Doyle in Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers." is referenced to a Rolling Stone article which has no mention of Rudd or the role in terms of his career. Certainly his appearance in the films can be sourced elsewhere, but the claims of "his feature film debut" and "one of his more notable early roles" need specific sourcing (or should be dropped). The reference only establishes the cult-status of the film. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 06:52, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry for the delay in getting back to your comment, but I have adjusted the sentence to remove the "feature" and "more notable early roles" to read as "In 1995, he co-starred in his film debut alongside Alicia Silverstone in the cult classic Clueless, as well as Tommy Doyle in Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers". Thanks for the comment, let me know if you have any others! LADY LOTUS • TALK 21:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @Lady Lotus now apologies for my delay. Unfortunately, there's still a problem, nothing in the Rolling Stone reference indicates that Clueless was Rudd's feature film debut. Please ping me as this is not on my watchlist. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 05:59, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey, I had removed the "feature" part of that sentence and now it just reads as his film debut which is just a fact I didn't think needed a reference for since Clueless came out in July 1995 and Halloween came out in September 1995. Let me know your thoughts, thanks! LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from SNUGGUMS[edit]

  • Sorry you've had to wait so long for more input! I'll happily revive this nomination with a review:
      • <3
    • File:Paul Rudd (cropped).jpg has an unusually large for me, but that just might be from viewing it on my phone vs. laptop. Thankfully no copyright issues either way.
    • The file source for File:Paul Rudd LF.JPG gives a 404 error, and might not be needed anyway with a better image used earlier.
      • I've replaced just so theres no issues later on
    • It looks like File:Paul Rudd on MLB Network (22211656364) (cropped).jpg is marked as "All rights reserved", meaning the pic unfortunately is copyrighted :(.
      • Makes me wonder if they changed the licensing since they've been uploaded, but I swapped with free licensed one
    • The tables shouldn't have rowspans (it's also highly ironic seeing those here when you've frequently gotten rid of them elsewhere)
      • Listen. Lol! Since FILMOGRAPHY allowed them to be in Year column, it was a fight I was tired of fighting, you'll still me take them out for other columns but some users are hardcore for rowspans :( I did take them out as I think for FLC, it needs to be the best and rowspans just don't belong :)
    • Since when are theme park attractions used for lists like these? It's not on a screen or a stage.
      • I'm glad someone said it, I don't know how they started getting added into pages but I removed for this page altogether, doesn't belong in a filmography or list for screen and stage
  • There's something for you to work with. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 22:41, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, if you have any other input I'm always appreciative of your opinion. Thanks Snug! LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure, and while I don't see any licensing issues with File:Paul Rudd 2013 (cropped).jpg, he looks pale in that compared to the others. I'd say you only need the top image used and can take out File:Paul Rudd at a presser (cropped).jpg (which isn't copyrighted but it feels better to use film events like premieres and even movie award ceremonies on lists with such credits when possible and this is a Comic-Con). Something I forgot to mention earlier is that episode counts for main starring or major recurring roles are frowned upon per WP:FILMOGRAPHY. As for rowspans, whoever decided to let them be used for years was enabling lots of unnecessary trouble. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 18:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the Comic Con image, and replaced episode count. HIGHLY agree on the rowspans. I was always told it was terrible for screenreaders but somehow that got through. Ugh! LADY LOTUS • TALK 19:07, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just take out the pale face from Anchorman 2 premiere and you'll be set (one image is enough in this article and I prefer what's used for the Ant-Man premiere). Not enough to prevent me from giving my support here, thankfully. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:48, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done, thank you!! LADY LOTUS • TALK 14:08, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 01:09, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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