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The list was promoted by Crisco 1492 06:29, 9 August 2014 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of songs recorded by Marina and the Diamonds[edit]

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Nominator(s): WikiRedactor (talk) 16:14, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have based much of List of songs recorded by Marina and the Diamonds on my earlier nominations List of songs recorded by Miley Cyrus and List of songs recorded by Sky Ferreira; with my most recent nomination The Real Housewives of Atlanta (season 6) confirmed for promotion by a FLC delegate, I am ready to present this list to you all for FL consideration. Here, you will find a fully-comprehensive list of songs recorded by Welsh singer-songwriter Marina Diamandis; credits are supported by the liner notes of the appropriate record, while additional commentary is verified by reputable sources including Digital Spy and Idolator. I will be readily available to address any concerns that come about during this nomination process, and am looking forward to this discussion! WikiRedactor (talk) 16:14, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Prism
  • Isn't this article written in British English? If so, "Welsh singer-songwriter" → "The Welsh singer-songwriter". I'm not sure on "Singer and producers" though, I don't know if it should have the definite article.
  • Done
  • "Diamandis' co-wrote" typo
  • Done
  • The last mention of Electra Heart in the prose could be substituted by "the album of the same name"
  • Done
  • The image is free to use and uploaded on Flickr with an acceptable license.

With regards to the rest, there's nothing I saw that needs correction. I give you my support based on meticulous sourcing, reliable sources and a comprehensive list of songs by Diamandis. Another great work by WikiRedactor. — prism △ 16:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Prism: Thanks so much! WikiRedactor (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • "Sound of 2010 poll organized by BBC" - she is British, so the article should be in British English and therefore the correct spelling is "organised". Also, it's the BBC, not just "BBC"
  • Done
    • "Songwriter and producers Liam Howe and Pascal Gabriel" - assuming that this is meant to indicate that both these people are both songwriters and producers, then "songwriters" should be plural too
  • Done
    • "Rick Nowels frequently partnered with Diamandis during production of the record, and were consequently...." - unless another name has been missed out somewhere, the "were" should be "was"
  • Done
@ChrisTheDude: Thanks for your feedback! WikiRedactor (talk) 17:33, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 21:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comments Looks very good overall, I just have some remarks:
  • "She first came to prominence within the music industry after being ranked in second place on the Sound of 2010 poll" – the thing is, the Sound of... poll is decided by members of the music industry, so she'd have had to have been at least somewhat prominent within the industry for her to be ranked on the list at all. Perhaps "She first came to public prominence after being ranked..." would be better.
Done
  • Actually, that whole sentence is rather long – over 60 words, in total. It might be best just to change that semicolon to a full stop.
Done
  • I was a bit confused by the final two sentences. The penultimate one says that "Just Desserts" is Diamandis's only collaboration with another recording artist, but then goes on to say that she credited as a featured artist on "Electra Heart", which seems to contradict that.
The title track was added in later, so I've clarified that "Just Desserts" is now her first collaboration.
  • Speaking of "Electra Heart", I was a bit confused about that track as well – was it going to be on Electra Heart before being removed for some reason? Was it a demo that was leaked online? Was BetaTraxx asked to remix it, or is he just some rogue producer who got his hands on an unknown Marina & the Diamonds song and released it under his own name?
As it turns out, it is confirmed that BetaTraxx produced the original/official version of "Electra Heart", which would seem as though it was originally recorded for Electra Heart (although I don't think any citation explicitly states this). Even though its music video was released in August 2013, it wasn't until May 2014 that BetaTraxx remixed different versions of the song for official release. I've clarified that whole sentence in the introduction.
  • The caption for the photo of Diamandis isn't a complete sentence, so doesn't need a terminating full stop.
Done
Done
  • Dagger symbols are missing from the cells of songs released as singles.
Done
  • Citations need to be in ascending order, i.e. [17][5] -> [5][17]
Done
  • Spaced hyphens need to be spaced en dashes.
Done

A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 16:58, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@A Thousand Doors: Thanks for leaving your feedback! WikiRedactor (talk) 15:49, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • How many different versions of Electra Heart were there?
Standard, deluxe, and U.S. versions, although some tracks only appear on a couple editions, and then there are iTunes Store exclusives with music videos and bonus content. Should the "different versions" bit be removed altogether?
No, I reckon keep that bit, as it's relevant. It just might be worth saying "on three different versions", or however many it was. It might also be worth indicating in the Albums column which albums featured on deluxe/US versions, as in, say, List of songs recorded by Lorde and List of songs recorded by Fiona Apple.
  • What does the "N/A" in the albums column actually mean? Were these songs that were single releases only? Were they demos that were leaked onto the Internet somehow?
Those songs were not released for purchase, although they were released through Diamandis' official SoundCloud, YouTube, etc. "Electra Heart" and "Just Desserts" listed their songwriters in their YouTube descriptions (the latter of which I just now added), although songwriters are specified for "E.V.O.L." For the "Album(s)" column, I inserted the "N/A" because they were not part of any album.
I think it would be best to be explicit then. Either clarify what "N/A" means by adding it to the key, or else just remove it entirely and replace it with "Online exclusive", or whichever words you feel would be better. Similarly, I think it might be worth clarifying in the lead through what medium "Just Desserts" was released (YouTube? SoundCloud? Both?)
Done WikiRedactor (talk) 21:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not really a FL criterion, but it might be worth archiving any online links you have through either WebCite or the Internet Archive, just in case they go dead at a later date.
  • I've made a few edits here – please revert if you don't agree with them.

A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 21:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@A Thousand Doors: All those edits look great! I've made all the other adjustments you pointed out (minus the wikilinking, just until we get some other opinions); let me know if there is anything else you would like to see corrected! WikiRedactor (talk) 21:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm really not sure, but I believe that, for sortable lists, it's best to have every instance of a link wikilinked, rather than just the first. Might be best to get a third opinion first, though.
@ChrisTheDude and Prism: What are your thoughts on this? WikiRedactor (talk) 21:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Manual of Style says "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead.", though I don't know how the table would benefit from having every instance of a link wikilinked. pedro | talk 22:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I might bring it up there.
Existing FLs of this type aren't done like that. In List of songs recorded by Rihanna, Rihanna's name doesn't seem to be linked in the table at all! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:31, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done WikiRedactor (talk) 21:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Again, not really a dealbreaker, but it might be good to alphabetise the images by the songs that they refer (i.e. "How to Be a Heartbreaker", then "Power & Control", then "Starstrukk", then "What You Waiting For?"). It just struck me as odd that Gwen Stefani was right at the top of the list, when "What You Waiting For?" is literally right down at the bottom.
Done WikiRedactor (talk) 21:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:32, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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