Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of World Heritage Sites in Slovenia/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 03:14, 16 November 2015 [1].

List of World Heritage Sites in Slovenia[edit]

Featured list candidates/List of World Heritage Sites in Slovenia/archive1

Nominator(s): Tone 16:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When preparing this list, I have followed the example of the Spanish article which is already a FL. Checking the criteria:

1 and 2 - I suppose this is fine. May require some language tweaks, I'll be happy if you point them out.
3 - it is complete and cannot be presented as a part of another article, at least not in this shape.
4 - tables work and are sortable.
5 - all images except for one are on Commons, the one with Plečnik is free under the US law.
6 - it is stable. Changes are expected when status of nominations change or more sites are added but that is about it.

Tone 16:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This list is only 3+5 items long. Not sure it should be a FL, since the +5 might not happen anytime soon. I suggest get this at GAN after reformatting to have a minisection on each of the currently listed 3 sites. I also suggest to remove "list of" from the title. Nergaal (talk) 18:32, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point, however, FLs List of World Heritage Sites in Madagascar and List of World Heritage Sites in Cuba are not much longer themselves. And Madagascar also has only 3 sites on the main list. Still, if this fails, GAN is an option, I agree. --Tone 19:18, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Those were promoted in 2010 and 2011. I am pretty sure that if they would have been nominated more recently they would have gotten more scrutiny about it. It is difficult to name something "list of 3 items" and be taken seriously. From my memory, shorts lists are delayed FL until they become somewhat longer, but in this case this "list" might never be longer than 3 entries. Nergaal (talk) 22:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I would add a slightly bigger location map to the list (similar to the one for WH in Cuba) --Smihael (talk) 12:53, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

400 -> 500 px. What do you think? I wouldn't go bigger than that. --Tone 19:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, 400px is better, so I've restored the original size and hope that we won't go bickering about that. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 07:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: well-written, meets all the criteria. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 07:02, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Review by PresN

Taking off my delegate hat to review this, with one caveat- this list is 8 items long in 2 tables, and as Nergaal mentioned that is a bit short; that said, I'm fine with it due to its status as one of a set (e.g. the "List of World Heritage sites in [country]" set). If this was a branched-off list such as a "list of accolades" list I wouldn't be okay with the length, but in this case it's cool, assuming the promoting delegate doesn't disagree. Anyways, review:

I'd change "Slovenia, following the declaration of independence from Yugoslavia, succeeded the convention on 5 November 1992." to "Slovenia, following the declaration of independence from Yugoslavia on 25 June 1991, succeeded the convention on 5 November 1992.", just to give a little more context.
"The first site [...] were the Škocjan Caves" -> was
"inscribed at the 10th session in 1986" -> "inscribed at the 10th UNESCO session in 1986"
"both of them being transnational entries" -> "both of them transnational entries"
"pile dwellings at Ig, within the Prehistoric pile dwellings around the Alps in 2011, and Idrija, as Heritage of Mercury. Almadén and Idrija in 2012." -> "pile dwellings at Ig, part of the "Prehistoric pile dwellings around the Alps" transnational site, in 2011; and Idrija, as part of the "Heritage of Mercury. Almadén and Idrija" transnational site, in 2012."
"Of these three sites, Škocjan Caves are a natural site" -> either "the Škocjan Caves are" or "Škocjan Caves is"
The table key is mostly unnecessary; the name and location and description is entirely self-evident from the name. I'd change the header to "In the following table, the UNESCO data includes the site's reference number, the year the site was inscribed on the World Heritage List, and the criteria it was listed under: criteria i through vi are cultural, whereas vii through x are natural." I'd also personally put that as a note on the UNESCO column, but either way is fine.
Comments is a bad column name, because that's not really what's in there; I'd change it to "Shared with", drop "shared with" from cells that have that, and put {{n/a}} in the empty cells
Ig is missing a space in "iv,v"
"Two sites in Slovenia are listed, the pile dwellings in Ig, the northern group (kolišča na Igu, severna skupina), and the pile dwellings in Ig, southern group (kolišča na Igu, južna skupina)." -> "Two sites in Slovenia are listed: the pile dwellings in Ig, northern group (kolišča na Igu, severna skupina), and the pile dwellings in Ig, southern group (kolišča na Igu, južna skupina)."
"The area that developed for the particular needs of alpine pasture cattle-raising" -> "The area that was developed for the particular needs of alpine pasture cattle-raising", or "The area developed for the particular needs of alpine pasture cattle-raising", depending on what you meant.
That entire description needs to be rewritten; it's two sentences jammed together and it's confusing as to subject-verb matching. I'd go with "Ždrocle Virgin Forests in the forest reserves Krokar and Snežnik represent an outstanding example of undisturbed, complex temperate forests. They demonstrate the postglacial expansion process of such forests and exhibit the most complete and comprehensive ecological patterns and processes of pure and mixed stands of European Beech across a variety of environmental conditions."
Architectural heritage of Jože Plečnik description starts with a sentence fragment; revise into a full sentence.
The "Shared with" bit above applies to this table too
References are malformed; you're misusing the templates. You have UNESCO World Heritage Centre as the author of the refs, but they should be listed as the publisher, with author blank. The refs also need an accessdate. I think we can safely assume that archiving the refs is very optional for these citations, though.
Prehistoric Pile dwellings around the Alps is redirecting to lowercase p pile, no other redirects
If you found this review helpful, consider optionally reviewing my List of Square Enix video game franchises FLC above. --Pres N 21:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! I will try to go through the comments this weekend. --Tone 10:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - How are we doing with this batch of comments? At a glance, it looks like at least some work has been done, but it would be nice to have the progress updated here. Although we can leave this FLC active for a little while longer, it is close enough to ending in a promotion that it would be a shame if things were to bog down now. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:16, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    - Sorry, I was kind of busy ... I addressed all the above comments, just the references are left to be fixed. I used the script to format them, I guess I'll have to go manually through after all. Give me a couple of days, ok? ;) --Tone 08:20, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, done with the comments (fixing the refs was easier than I thought ;) ) Please have a look and let me know if there's anything else to be improved. --Tone 20:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, Support. --Pres N 16:54, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Sorry, I wanted to review your nomination but by the time I got there, it has already been promoted ... --Tone 18:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, like I said, completely optional! Though, I do now have another one if you want to... --Pres N 00:51, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 03:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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