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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 16:12, 18 August 2008 [1].

List of Philadelphia Phillies managers[edit]

previous FLC (16:51, 3 August 2008)

I am re-nominating this list, because I believe that all of the issues that needed to be addressed from the last FLC have been fixed. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 19:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • "...with 111 in..." - put this into context. Did they play 800 games or 111? One way or another it'll have a different impact. And most of us interested butWh non-US readers are amazed by the sheer volume of games that MLB teams get through!
    • Why link season on its 6th use?
    • "in team history", "in team history" - team=franchise?
    • "The manager with the highest winning percentage over a full season or more was posted by ..." - no need for "posted by".
    • No need for bold in the key.
    • Also no need for the full stops in the key.
    • Left align the second column of the key.
    • Stick with one date range format for seasons, so XXXX-XXXY or XXXX-XY.
    • I think it's worth explaining the difference in role between manager and general manager. Oddly, your list is of "...Phillies managers", not general managers...
      • Yes, I do think that's necessary, now that I look at it. Should I write a mini-lede explaining the role of the manager and the general manager before each table? Should I move the list to include GMs? KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 17:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think you just need to improve the lead to include a comprehensive discussion over the roles. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • " this manager has appeared in the playoffs" - you mean the number of times he led the Phillies into the playoffs?
    • Why link WS in the table when it's already linked in the lead?
    • And I'd link PA in the key, or beforehand if possible, rather than in the table.
    • "b #49" - what is the relevance of 49?
    • The external link could have a bullet point in front of it.
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 16:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from -- K. Annoyomous24
  • Comments
    • Shouldn't this article be just about the managers?
      • Could be, I expanded this article from the base lists, which were both included when I started building it.
    • "The duties of the team manager include team strategy and leadership on and off the field." I think you should erase this sentence as it needs reference and there's already a wikilink for that.
      • This is copied directly from the Wikipedia article and was added in reference to an earlier FLC request. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on!
    • For most of the references, you wrote Baseball Reference instead of Baseball-Reference.com.
      • Baseball Reference is the official name of the organization; therefore, they are the publisher. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on!
    • "they managed the team while still playing for it" should be "they managed the team while still being registered to play for the team".
    • "In contrast, the general manager controls player transactions, hiring and firing of the coaching staff, and negotiates with players and agents regarding contracts." There should be a reference for this.
      • This is copied directly from the Wikipedia article and was added in reference to an earlier FLC request. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on!
    • "After this time, he served as a team executive until 2003, and was inducted into the Philadelphia Baseball Wall of Fame in recognition of his services." Needs reference.
    • "The manager" should be "The Phillies manager" because of a new paragraph.
    • I rather have you use this reference than Baseball-Reference.com because of the conflict I had on this FLC.
      • Per FA and FL guidelines and WP:N, independent sources are preferred and in fact required. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on!
        • But can you at least put on that reference since it is the "offical reference". -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 18:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • I added it to General references
            • Sorry for mentioning this but if you go all the way down on the reference I gave you, you'll see that the second manager (sorry, forgot his name) had a tie. You should compare the two general references because there WILL be some differences. -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 18:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Bold the top 5 abbreviations on the key as it is bolded on the table.
    • "by inaugural season manager Blondie Purcell..." should be "by the second inaugural season manager Blondie Purcell..."
    • There were no general managers from 1883 to 1944?
    • This article should be split into List of Philadelphia Phillies managers and List of Philadelphia Phillies general managers.
      • See above.
    • Delete the "External Links" as it has nothing to do with the article.
    • Add the category, [[Category:Major League Baseball lists]]
-- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 18:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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