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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 10:27, 16 May 2012 [1].

List of Major League Baseball player–managers[edit]

List of Major League Baseball player–managers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): – Muboshgu (talk) 18:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My last nomination appears to be set to pass. I only have one question about the presentation of this table: is it best to have each player-manager get one row, or should there be one row per tenure, even if that means some players are listed in multiple rows? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 13:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "to serve as a player-managers" en-dash, not hyphen, per the article title.
    • Fixed
  • Check that throughout the lead.
    • Fixed
  • "The dual role as player-manager " I would read that as "role of player..." not "role as" but I think it's personal taste.
    • Fixed.
  • "among the winningest managers " I cannot begin to say how much I loathe the word "winningest", can we not use regular English with "with the most wins" or more generally "most successful"?
    • Reworded
  • "Today, the player-manager has become rare in baseball. Pete Rose is the most recent player-manager, serving in the dual role from " a touch repetitive, no need to repeat p-m and we already know it's a dual role...
    • Fixed.
  • "Whereas some player-managers, such as Lou Boudreau, were full-time players as player-managers, by the time Rose became player-manager, he was a part-time player" count the repeats... I know what you're saying but can you rephrase.
  • "hit record" I would find a suitable link for "hit" here for the non-baseball audience.
  • "One tough decision " doesn't read particularly encycelopedically.
    • Rephrased
  • Last lead para, p-m repeated too much for my taste.
  • "Cap Anson was a player–manager for thirteen seasons" I count 22?
    • I derp'ed in my maths. It's 23 (1875-1897).
  • "Lou Boudreau won the Most Valuable Player Award while a player–manager in 1948." ref?
    • Ref'd.
  • "Player–Manager" in col heading is "Player–manager".
    • Fixed.
  • "El Tappe served in the College of Coaches while still an active player." ref?
    • Ref'd
  • Can you just check all other factoids in the captions are referenced?

The Rambling Man (talk) 12:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • "The then-Cleveland Bluebirds were renamed the "Naps" in honor of Nap Lajoie." ref?
  • "1883, 1884–1889", why not "1883–1889"?
  • "back to John Clapp in 1872" could say who he player-managed?

The Rambling Man (talk) 20:22, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 21:03, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "In early baseball history, it was not uncommon for players to serve as a player–managers". Remove "a".
  • Recommend linking to bullpen in the third paragraph, as that is a bit of baseball jargon that could use the wikilink.
  • Decapitalize "General Manager" in the fourth paragraph.
  • "the White Sox considered hiring incumbent first baseman Paul Konerko to seve as manager in addition." "seve" → "serve".
  • To expand on TRM's last point, the John Montgomery Ward caption needs a cite.
    • I found a citation, and it corrected my error - he didn't become player-manager until later in the season. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Minor, but ref 6 could use a space between the pp. and numbers, for consistency with the other cites to the Stein book. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:18, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hello Muboshgu, are you intending to address these remaining concerns? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, sorry. I've gotten busy with things at work. I hope to have these settled by tomorrow. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:00, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I have resolved all of the above concerns. Now it's a matter of getting more reviewers. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:37, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Prose comments, from Crisco 1492
  • "shot down" - A little informal. "Rejected"?
  • "offseason" - worth a wikilink?
  • "the White Sox considered hiring incumbent first baseman Paul Konerko to serve as manager in addition" - In addition to...?
  • "The then-Cleveland Bluebirds were renamed the "Naps" in honor of Nap Lajoie" - Should we indicate that he was a player-manager?
  • Support - Looks to me like it meets all 6 criteria. —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:57, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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