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The list was not promoted by User:Scorpion0422 22:30, 2 December 2008 [1].

Bookseller/Diagram Prize for Oddest Title of the Year[edit]

I believe that this list meets all the critera. It has a good introduction, with a suitable image and appears to have good prose. ISD (talk) 16:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "The Bookseller/Diagram Prize for Oddest Title of the Year, also known as the Diagram Prize, is a humorous literary award, normally given each year to the book with the oddest title."-->The Bookseller/Diagram Prize for Oddest Title of the Year, also known as the Diagram Prize, is a humorous literary award that is normally given each year to the book with the oddest title.
  • "The award was created by Bruce Robertson as a way of providing entertainment during the Frankfurt Book Fair in 1978."-->The award was created by Bruce Robertson to providing entertainment during the Frankfurt Book Fair in 1978.
  • Link "diarist".
  • "As of 1993, readers of The Bookseller were allowed to nominate titles." "were"-->was.
  • "deliberately designed to be funny are normally regreted." Is "regreted" a word or a typo?
  • "but as of 2000"-->since 2000.
  • "internet" Should be capitalized.
  • "but he later changed his mind and instead now creates the short list of finalists."
  • "The prize is either a magnum of champagne or a bottle of claret, and increased publicity for both the book and its author." No comma needed.
  • "A book covering the Diagram Prize"-->A book that covers the Diagram Prize...
  • "So far, two special anniversary awards known as the "Diagram of Diagrams" have been presented, to honour both the 15th and the 30th anniversaries of the Diagram Prize." No comma needed.
  • "The nominations of the prizes where all of the previous winners up to that point in time" "where"-->were.
  • "In 2008, the second "Diagram of Diagrams" award was presented, in honour of the 30th anniversary of the Diagram Prize." No comma here either.
  • "The winner announced on 5 September 2008, was Greek Rural Postmen and Their Cancellation Numbers, the 1996 winner." The first comma is not needed.
  • Years and dates should not be linked, I unlinked them for you, but note that for the future.
  • Ref 11 should have format=PDF in the citation template. It also needs publisher info. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Response to comments: I've carried out all the changes you asked for. ISD (talk) 13:12, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Looks good! The list is well written, referenced and very interesting. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 19:38, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved review from SRX [TRUco]
Oppose by SRX (talk · contribs)
  • The Bookseller/Diagram Prize for Oddest Title of the Year, also known as the Diagram Prize, is a humorous literary award that is normally given each year to the book with the oddest title. the word "normally" just stands out. I know it wasn't given out on occasions, but why not just state that later in the lead, it is better.
  • The award was created by Bruce Robertson to provide entertainment during the Frankfurt Book Fair in 1978. - who was Robertson? (what did he do, profession?)
  • It was later run by Horace Bent, the diarist of British literary magazine The Bookseller. - WP:WEASEL, exact years/date that this occurred?
  • The winner was originally voted for by a panel of judges, since 2000 the winner was voted for by members of the public via the Internet. - there needs to be a transition word between "judges" and "since" like though, however, or but.
  • The lead needs to give a summary of the list, such as what was the first book that won the award, the most recent one, why there weren't any awards given out, etc.
  • So far, two special anniversary awards known as the "Diagram of Diagrams" have been presented to honour both the 15th and the 30th anniversaries of the Diagram Prize. - 1)WP:Weasel, be exact, i.e (as of 2008) 2)I don't know if the country you are from spells it that way, but in American English, the word is spelled as honor (w/o the u).
  • The winner announced on 5 September, 2008 was Greek Rural Postmen and Their Cancellation Numbers, the 1996 winner. - in the date in the lead that is in this format doesn't have a comma (i.e 5 September, 2008) so which is it, w/o a comma, or with one, it needs to be consistent.
    • I fixed this with a date audit using Lightmouse's script. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refs 9, 10, 11 need to be made into general references, like they are in the FL 2008 WWE Draft.
  • The table should be made sortable.--TRUCO 23:27, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Response to opposition: I've made the changes you wanted. ISD (talk) 07:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Almost there. Their should be a separate prose for just the summary of the list, so move the sentence about the first book into the new paragraph and add more about the list; significant winners, the most recent winner, and statistics - overall count, etc.--TRUCO 23:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've created the new paragraph. ISD (talk) 09:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - my review was resolved, but there were many prose issues, but it now meets WP:WIAFL.--TRUCO 02:04, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • comment. I think author / publisher column should be seperated, and those that have nameable authors not currently mentioned (if any) are filled in, and likewise the name of the first publisher for those that only have an author. If publisher is interesting info, it should be for all books, not only those that are easiest to find because the award stated them.Yobmod (talk) 10:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Response to comment - That may be difficult. Some books have only been given the name of the publisher, or the editior or the author. By having the one column, I think it makes the table look better, and it also gives some guide behind the people or the company behind the work. ISD (talk) 12:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Difficult, but actionable. I just spent a week tracking down publishers for such a list. The prize website gave the title and author, but not publisher. The info is findable and citable, so should be included. Our list should be better than the official list if possible - if it only replicated the info directly found from the prize gives, it seems useless. Knowing the publisher is obviously useful, or it wouldn't be given for any of them. Hence i oppose based on this.Yobmod (talk) 21:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Response to opposition - Can you give me these links please, then I can use them in the table. ISD (talk) 08:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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