User talk:Zyxw/Archive 2

Archive of User talk:Zyxw for 2006

coor dms2

I noticed you created {{coor dms2}} and have started to migrate the airport infobx to using it - any reason why? I cannot see any visual problem when using {{coor dms}} in the infobox. Additionally this template uses an embedded template - something frowned upon for performance reasons. Thanks/wangi 11:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Can you stop with the coor dms2 for a while as they don't work as well as the original. Here's the map as provided for Castlegar Airport under coor dms and this is the map from coor dms2. The picture in the second is clearer but where's the airport. By the time you zoom in it's still fuzzy. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:53, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Many of the airport infoboxes currently use the "coor dms" template to display the coordinates with a link to the "map sources" page. The problem with "coor dms" when used in the airport infobox is that some browsers wrap the text onto a second line creating something which looks like this:

35°41′21″N, 51°

18′49″E

The point of creating "coor dms2" was to have it wrap in a more logical point, between the latitude and longitude:

35° 41′ 21″ N

51° 18′ 49″ E

I also added spaces between the degrees, minutes and seconds to make it easier to read. The only difference between "coor dms" and "coor dms2" is how the text is displayed. Both templates should generate the same URL for the Map Sources page, assuming they are given the same coordinates. The reason for the change in the Castlegar Airport page is because besides changing from "coor dms" to "coor dms2", I also added "type:airport":

original:

{{coord|49|17|47|N|117|37|57|W|}}

49°17′47″N 117°37′57″W

this causes the map sources page to use a scale of approx. 1 : 300,000

my edit:

{{coord2|49|17|47|N|117|37|57|W|type:airport}}

{{coord2|49|17|47|N|117|37|57|W|type:airport}}

this causes the map sources page to use a scale of approx. 1 : 30,000

Zyxw 14:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, could you give an example of this happening? I tried looking at Louisville International Airport before your change since it was the first you changed but It looked all right to me. With the existing coor dms template the only place the browser should be breaking the line is at the space between the E/W and N/S, and certainly that's what's happening here for me. Actually I've now just tested this with IE (I normally use Firefox) and it is showing the way you describe. However, new templates aren't really the way to solve a browser bug/issue. Let me think about this one... Thanks/wangi 14:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I've just edited coor dms2[1] to make use of the nowrap CSS property - this now displays properly on IE and I think this version should be used in the standard {{coor dms}}. What do you think? Thanks/wangi 14:57, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I like the nowrap approach, but with the version of Template:Coor dms2 as you have it, there is still the issue of the little arrow symbol that appears with external links not displaying properly when the text wraps to a second line (for an example, see the airport infobox at Template talk:Coor dms2). I would suggest one of the following solutions: (1) apply nowrap to the entire text that is displayed, forcing the latitude and longitude to be displayed on a single line, or (2) allow the latitude and longitude to be displayed on separate lines but remove the arrow symbol by using class=plainlinksneverexpand as I had done in my version of "coor dms2" [2] Zyxw 18:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

See Template talk:Coor dms#Line wrapping. Thanks/wangi 14:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

It's something strange with Castlegar Airport. If you use "Coor dms2" and remove the "type:airport" it still give the high altitude view as opposed to using "type:airport" and "coor dms". However, it makes no difference to London Heathrow Airport. I do know that the monitor also can make a difference to how things are viewed. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll have to take a closer look at this when I have some more time. Zyxw 18:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I've moved out to work and am now editing from there. Using the same browser as at home and a smaller monitor there is now no difference between either "Coor dms2" or "coor dms". It's not breaking over two lines like the template shows and there are no spaces between degrees, minutes and seconds. The little arrow is right over and blocking the W. Just tried a different browser and it's the same. Also I just noticed that Castlegar is coming in at the right height. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Coor dms2

Template:Coor dms2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Coor dms2. Thank you. wangi 10:42, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Brisbane Airport

Actually, you haven't fixed what I was trying to fix, at all. I wanted "Brisbane" to link to "Brisbane", "Queensland" to link to "Queensland", and "Australia" to link to "Australia", the way things used to be, before the info box format was changed, and the way it should be. I did not want "Brisbane, Queensland, Australia" to link to "Brisbane", which is how you have left it. So the problem remains, unresolved. Figaro 15:54, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I did notice that you were attempting to set up separate links in that Brisbane Airport article, but the current version of Template:Airport_infobox uses the entire text assigned to "closest town" as a link to a single article. Therefore I thought the next best solution was to create a redirect page named Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. If you don't care for that solution, please feel free to revert my edit. Better yet, post a suggestion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/infobox requesting that the template not automatically link the "closest town" text, thereby allowing you to place the links yourself. Zyxw 06:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Airports in Australia table

Hi I know that it takes a fair amount of effort to convert pages to tables. I just wanted to acknowledge it looks much better :-) Regards--A Y Arktos 07:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Categories

Hi Zyxw. FYI, misnamed categories like Category:Airports in Democratic Republic of the Congo are eligible for speedy deletion and speedy renaming. Even though you've already nominated it for the slow way, you can still have it speedied. ×Meegs 11:51, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Robertson Field

I was wondering where you got your information to change the operator of Robertson Field to Tomasso Brothers Inc. They own the land that the airport is on but do not partake in the day to day operations of the airport. Interstate Aviation handles all operations as well as the flight school there. Jeb8828 11:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The fields in the airport infobox for U.S. airports are usually based on data published by the FAA. Although the box is labelled "operator", it is usually the name of the owner, which FAA records for Robertson Field show as "Tomasso Brothers Inc." (see references link in article). However, since the owner and operator are different here, please feel free to change it back to "Interstate Aviation". Zyxw 11:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Do you think that it makes more sense to have Interstate Aviation as the operator then? You definitely have more experience with the airport articles than I do so I'll let you decide which you feel shold be there. I just wanted to make sure you knew about it. Jeb8828 11:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Since the article itself mentions the names of both the owner and the operator, I think it is fine to switch the infobox back to the operator name. In fact, I just made the edit while typing this response. Zyxw 11:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Airports infobox

I noticed that you were adding stuff like runway width, date opened and distance from to the infobox. None of that information actually appears to the reader. I think if you want that stuff included you should bring it up for discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/infobox Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Infobox Airport. There is some previous discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/infobox/archive2 Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Infobox Airport/Archive 2 under the "Ideas", "Suggested changes" and "Proposed Changes". Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I once saw an airport infobox where someone included fields for the runway width, which I thought it was a good idea. Since templates like the airport infobox ignore parameters they don't know about, it doesn't hurt anything for me to include fields which infobox doesn't currently display. If it is ever decided to display that information in the infobox, then the articles I have edited won't need to be updated again. Zyxw 21:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Trivandrum International Airport

HI, I noticed that you moved the contents from Trivandrum International Airport to Thiruvananthapuram International Airport, and added a redirect in the former. But, the airport name hasnt changed. It is still called as Trivandrum Airport. The city name is officially changed to Thiruvananthapuram in 1991. But the airport name is not changed. The code is still TRV and the name is Trivandrum International Airport itself.
See the official site of Airport Authority of India, which controls the airport : AAI official site.

So I request you to move the contents from Thiruvananthapuram International Airport to [3], and add a redirect in the former.

Thanks in advance. Cheers, -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me...)} :-) 12:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

The page has been moved back to Trivandrum International Airport and the article updated to show the correct name, with a reference to that AAI link. Thanks for the information. Zyxw 13:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Updating AAI links

Great work on updating the airport links on the airport list. Good job - ^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 12:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. (For anyone else reading this, PlaneMad is referring to List of airports in India.) - Zyxw 08:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevada airports

Thanks for expanding the stubs I've been creating. I was planning on doing some of this, but there is so much I have been trying to do I keep falling further behind. I just spent a few hours finding and adding some additional airports to the Nevada list. - Vegaswikian 03:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. - Zyxw 04:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Oddball Barnstar

HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

I received this from Xizes on 30 October 2006. If you click on the barnstar image you'll find the following description: The Oddball Barnstar may be awarded to an editor who creates a particularly fine article regarding a subject that is odd, whimsical, or is otherwise something that one wouldn't expect to find in more traditional encyclopedias. Not sure which article(s) this was for, but it was appreciated. - Zyxw

Afd for airline destinations

Someone renominated airline destinations for afd. Since you voted keep last time, I thought you might be interested. DB (talk) 20:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I added my vote to keep it. - Zyxw 12:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:LFLL logo.jpg)

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That image can be deleted. I uploaded that in error and used Image:LFLL logo.png instead. Thanks. - Zyxw 15:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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Tireless Contributor Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This Tireless Contributor Barnstar is rewarded to Zywx for all his/her help in helping to expand the airport articles I created as part of my WikiProject for defunct airlines. It is a combination of small acts like these that make Wikipedia a better place. We solute you! -Jondude11 05:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)