User talk:Yadhu Krishna BP

As you no doubt expected, this account has been blocked indefinitely from editing, because it has been used to evade blocks on other accounts. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock. To do so, first read the guide to appealing blocks, and then add the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} to the bottom of the talk page of your original account. JBW (talk) 10:39, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I have looked at every one the article edits which you made with this account. All but two of them were unambiguously vandalism or playing around, and I don't know whether the other two were valid edits or not. JBW (talk) 10:56, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Which two edits You mean, please tell me. Did You blocked me from editing. If yes please tell me the reason.

I shall obey all Wikipedia policies. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 11:04, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I have joined Wikipedia recently and don't know much about it. Please help me to get back into this platform.#Wikipedia Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 11:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Administrator: JamesBWatson

I, didn't understand what You mean by evading blocks on another account. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 11:13, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Requesting to Unblock my Wikipedia account.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Yadhu Krishna BP (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I, User:Yadhu Krishna BP as been blocked for evading blocks on another account. But the above said action was not performed by me nor I know the meaning of that illegal action. Therefore I request the Administrator to Please Unblock me and let me get into this platform has I was here before. Thankfully Yadhu Krishna BPYadhu Krishna BP (talk) 11:21, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Given your edits so far, hard to see any benefit by unblocking you. Yamla (talk) 11:40, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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Help me, User:Yadhu Krishna BP

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Yadhu Krishna BP (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Why my Unblock request reason is being denied. I have done only 10 edits, on Wikipedia articles the rest are the edits I have done on my own User Page. #Infobox Person template was used. Is this the reason why I have been blocked. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 12:01, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The rationales here and below are so disjointed and sufficiently non-sensical to merit leaving the block in place via WP:CIR. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:41, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

If you list here all the accounts you have used then I will consider whether there is a case for unblocking your original account. However, as long as you don't admit to having been blocked on other accounts, there is absolutely no question of unblocking. JBW (talk) 12:20, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Sir, I actually have only one Wikipedia account named Yadhu Krishna BP. This same account I use with two devices for editing. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 12:24, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Sir, If You could please tell me the proper reason on behalf of which I was blocked I will revert those edits or will do what ever I can to maintain Wikipedia's Policies.

Thanks Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 12:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Yes Sir, I have said myself been blocked on User:Theoder2055 account.

But that account was User:Jomontgeorge

which is already blocked. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 12:36, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Sir, I don't know who this User:Jomontgeorge is also I had no link with him till date.

Please completely remove my block and let me to do edit on articles. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:14, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Sir, I shall never evade block on a another account.

Please give me one more chance to improve my attitude towards Wikipedia.

Thankfully

Yadhu Krishna BP Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:19, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Well well! When I saw that you had said "I have said myself been blocked on User:Theoder2055 account. But that account was User:Jomontgeorge", I was pleased to see that you had at last made a step towards being honest, so I took the trouble to write a fairly long message to you, explaining what else you needed to do to have a chance of being unblocked. When I tried to post that message, however, I found that you had now said "I don't know who this User:Jomontgeorge is". As you can no doubt imagine, I am pretty well pissed off at having wasted my time trying to help you only to find you are just lying again. Very likely Jomontgeorge was one of your accounts, but I honestly don't care whether it was or not: you are certainly evading at least one block on at least one account, and probably more than one, whether Jomontgeorge was one of them or not. Each time you tell such blatant lies you make it less likely that you will ever be unblocked. If you evade your blocks with yet more sockpuppets, then (1) you can expect them all to be blocked, (2) you can expect editing you do to be reverted, so that you will achieve nothing by evading blocks, and (3) each time you evade blocks you will make it less likely that you will ever be unblocked. If you want to have any reasonable chance of being unblocked then start telling the truth now, before it's too late. JBW (talk) 13:36, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I do not believe this user's claim that they also control the Theoder2055 account, based on technical evidence. --Yamla (talk) 13:44, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't think so based on their communication, which is part of the problem, and why I declined the appeal. Of course, JBW may continue to handle the appeal (I didn't see his post while I was formulating my decline) but there seems to be a real CIR issue here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:48, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Sir, I honestly say that I have no link with User:Jomontgeorge nor I Know him. Forgive me for wasting Your precious time. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:57, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

OK, so you are not the same person as Jomontgeorge. At first I thought you were, but now I think you possibly may not be. However, that still leaves the fact that you have used at least one other account, which has been blocked, and you are not telling us what account or accounts. JBW (talk) 14:01, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Sir, truly I have no another account. I had recently joined on Wikipedia on April 3,2022.

But use this account named Yadhu Krishna BP with in two devices for editing. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 14:06, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Yadhu Krishna BP 38? --Yamla (talk) 14:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@Yamla Sir, This isvnot my account. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 14:11, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Sir,

Now it will be a waste of time to discuss my Issue more.

1. I already told I have only one Wikipedia account.

2. I don't know who this Jomentogeorge is...

3. I given a chance I shall not repeat doing any activity which seems to be against Wikipedia's Privacy Policy.

Thanks Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 14:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. In addition, your ability to edit your talk page has also been revoked.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then submit a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System.  Dennis Brown - 2¢ 15:20, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Even if there was no socking (I have no opinion on that) there is a serious problem with competency and a history of disruptive edits. Not to be mean, but this really isn't the hobby for you. I strongly suggest you find something that brings you joy with your spare time, but I don't believe that you are capable of being a productive editor here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 15:23, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #62419

is closed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

As is UTRS appeal #62533. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Response to your email

• I have received your email, in which you ask me to contact you by telephone. There is no question of my doing that, so I am answering here.
• This account was blocked as a sockpuppet of Jomontgeorge, which you say is not true. Even if you were not lying about being Jomontgeorge, you have certainly lied about other things, as for example above where you wrote "I actually have only one Wikipedia account named Yadhu Krishna BP", despite the fact that you certainly had an account which had been blocked before this one. You also wrote "I shall never evade block on a another account.", and then went ahead and created other accounts to evade blocks. The more often you are seen to be dishonest, the less likely it is that you will ever be unblocked. In messages above where I made it clear that I was certain that you had at least one account before this one. I didn't say how I knew that, because I wanted to give you a chance to prove that you could be honest, and admit to it. You didn't take up that chance: instead you repeatedly lied, saying "I actually have only one Wikipedia account named Yadhu Krishna BP" and "truly I have no another account".
• In a post at User talk:Deepika o at 10:36 on the 25th of August 2022, using the account Yadhu Krishna BP you wrote "Actually my Account was also blocked by CheckUsers". Since the account Yadhu Krishna BP had at that time never been blocked, you must have had another account which was blocked. It never seemed to occur to you that you had actually told us that you had had a previous account blocked, but that is what you did tell us.
• It originally seemed to me probable that what happened was that you had an account which was mistakenly thought to have been a sockpuppet of Jomontgeorge, that account was blocked, and you then created the account Yadhu Krishna BP to get round the block. If that was so, and if you had said right from the start what your first account was, then I would have been willing to approach the blocking administrator of your original account, and suggesting that we should unblock it. However, you have repeatedly failed to respond to requests to tell us what your original account was. For quite a while I thought that was because you didn't understand. Several other aspects of your editing also gave the impression that you didn't understand what was being said to you and what you were doing.
• After receiving your email, I did some more checking of the editing history of the various accounts. Unfortunately I noticed some similarities of your editing to that of known Jomontgeorge sockpuppets, so I have to reconsider my view that you were unlikely to be another sockpuppet of that editor. The fact that you have lied about having no previous accounts makes me less inclined to give you the benefit of tany doubt there still may be. Another thing which has changed since I originally blocked this account is that you have at least twice evaded the block, by using the accounts Yadhu Krishna BP 38 and Yadhu Krishna BP.html. That too makes me less inclined to trust you on other matters. Previously I thought you probably weren't Jomontgeorge, now I think it's very likely that you are.
• Dennis Brown has removed your access to editing this page, but you are probably still free to tell us on the talk page of your original account what all your accounts are. If my original good-faith view that your original account had been blocked by mistake was correct, then it's difficult to see any reason at all why you wouldn't be perfectly happy to tell us what that original account was. The longer you go on not telling us what account it was, the less likely it looks that it really was an innocent mistake, and the more it looks as though you are lying about not being Jomontgeorge. Also, every time you evade a block you make it less likely that you will ever persuade an administrator to unblock you. As far as I am concerned, this is your last chance. Tell us now what your original account was, whether it was Jomontgeorge or not, and I will consider whether there may be a case for letting you request an unblock at some time in the future. If you don't give us this information now, then as far as I am concerned that will be the end of it.
• If for some reason you can't post on the talk page of your original account, and if Dennis Brown doesn't decide to restore talk page access for this account, then you can email me again and tell me what that original account is and why you can't post there. Otherwise please post all further communications on the talk page of your original account.
• I have put a considerable amount of time into composing and editing this message, probably far more time than you deserve. I have no plan to write to you to you again at all, but if I ever do write to you again it is likely to be very briefly and without going into details. However, my final comment for now is this. I think at present, with your history of blatant dishonesty, your apparent difficulty in understanding what you are told, and your history of unconstructive editing, such as this unambiguous vandalism, you stand no chance at all of being unblocked by any administrator. However, your one chance of possibly changing that is to be completely honest about everything, including telling us what your first account was, and giving up your ridiculous attempt to make us think that you never had an account before this one, as though you think we are idiots. JBW (talk) 15:24, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Since posting the above message I have seen that you have posted to my talk page on Wikimedia Commons, saying, among other things, that your stating that you had previously been blocked was "just done for a fun", and also that Yadhu Krishna BP 38 was not you.

1. If you did lie about previously having been blocked, then whose fault is it if you get blocked and people don't believe other things you say?
2. Why didn't you say to begin with that you had said that "for fun", instead of keeping quiet about it until I mentioned it to you? That is classic behaviour of someone who hopes to get away with something if they don't mention it, and then makes up some excuse when they are called out on it. I would have been much more likely to have believed you if you had said it freely, of your own choice, rather than only when you were pressed.
3. A checkuser has found evidence of a connection between the accounts Yadhu Krishna BP and Yadhu Krishna BP 38. After all that has been said you are asking for a lot of trust if you want me to believe that wasn't you, but if it wasn't then you must almost certainly have some idea who it was, so you can say so. Frankly, considering everything in the history of this case put together, you are asking me to believe in a hell of a lot of unfortunate coincidences, and considering that you are known to have lied, the fact that I am not just dismissing your claims out of hand is a far bigger concession to you than any other administrator I know of would grant.
4. The more you write in your defence, the more reasn you give for me to agree with Dennis Brown that even if the sockpuppetry accusation is wrong, you lack ufficient competence to edit Wikipedia constructively.
5. As I have said more than once before, before being blocked you used this account for vandalism. why should we unblock you? JBW (talk) 16:44, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

• Please note that he is now hitting me up at Commons asking to be unblocked. I have declined. My opinion hasn't changed and I think he is a net negative, yet I want to be clear that any admin is free to do whatever they feel is best for the Project, including modifying or removing my block without prior permission from me. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:55, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Last chance

Please don't continue to pester administrators (or anyone else) about your block on English Wikipedia anywhere else, such as Wikimedia Commons, or by email. I have restored your access to editing this page, so that if you have any good reason to post a message, you can do it here. However, if you abuse access to this page by making unsuitable posts, such as repeatedly badgering an administrator begging to be unblocked, your talk page access will be removed again, and very probably not restored again. I agree with what Dennis Brown has told you: you don't appear to have enough maturity to edit Wikipedia, and probably the best thing would be for you to wait for at least a year, better a couple of years, and then come back. However, if you really think you can learn to do better in a shorter time than that, I will be willing to reconsider your case after not less than four months, under the following conditions.

1. You must do no editing away from this page at all in that time, whether by creating a new account or by any other means.
2. You must not try to contact any administrator or editor about your block or anything else to do with your editing of English Wikipedia by any means other than on this page, including by email or by posting on another Wikimedia project.

In making this offer I am giving you the benefit of the doubt about the sockpuppetry. Also, to avoid any misunderstanding, I repeat although I'm making this offer available to you, my advice is that you will have a far better chance of having a successful time editing Wikipedia if you wait much longer than four months.That is because you really don't seem to completely understand all the issues, which means that you run the serious risk of making mistakes which will lead to your being blocked again, but that risk will be less if you wait until you are older.

You are welcome to post a short note indicating that you have read and understood this message, but bear in mind what I said above, and if you post extensive unnecessary text you may have talk page access removed permanently. JBW (talk) 13:13, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

@JBW Thanks Sir, for granting me access to talk page.

I will obey Your rules and regulations and will wait for 8 months.

But You should remember that I had only two accounts Yadhu Krishna BP and Yadhu Krishna BP.html though Yadhu Krishna BP 38 was not created by me I am considering it to be mine for no reasons.

At the time of Unblock you have to unblock only my first account Yadhu Krishna BP keeping the rest 2 blocked for ever.

Thanks Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 01:16, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Persistent pestering on Commons

• I am writing here to put the following information on record, for consideration by any reviewing administrator if Yadhu Krishna ever posts another unblock request.

• Despite the above request from me not to pester administrators on Wikimedia Commons or elsewhere, Yadhu Krishna has continued to do so. In September 2022 he persisted in posting to Dennis Brown's Commons talk page after receiving both my request above and a request from Dennis on Commons not to do so. He has posted to my Commons talk page a number of times, pestering me about the block on English Wikipedia, the latest occasion being 22 January 2023. I have told Yadhu Krishna that if I see that he has done the same again I shall contact a Commons administrator to ask them to consider a possible block, and possibly also a Steward to request a global lock. JBW (talk) 12:34, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

  @JBW Dear Sir Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 12:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

  What Nonsense are You telling. I am loosing my patience.

  I have never asked for any Unblock request since 8th Sep 2022. My last request was on 8th Sep 2022 to you yourself.

  I have nor opened any other account on this platform except three which are : Yadhu Krishna BP

  Yadhu Krishna BP.html

  Yadhu Krishna BP 38. of which all are blocked right now.

  i I had also mentioned last time that Yadhu Krishna BP 38 was not opened by me, I am sure of it. Even though I have it to be mine for no reason.

  I have was on your place I would have fired You from your current status on Wikipedia.

  I have begged you a lot of time. I am not asking for money from You. I am just asking to Unblock my account for last time or as last chance. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:04, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

As recorded above, you have failed to comply with condition 2 in my offer further up this page, in the section headed "Last chance". The offer is therefore void. I have gone further towards giving you another chance than most other administrators would have done, in fact very probably further than any other administrator would have done, but you have chosen not to take up my offer. That is the end of my attempts to help you. JBW (talk) 13:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@JBW Sir you only Unblock me for last time. I am begging to you because only you can help me.

Dear Sir believe me I have understood my mistake I shall never it repeat it again.

Please Sir. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Only this account you have to Unblock....that to for the last time. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Sir Please at least respond to me. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Except You and Dennis no other person I have requested for my account unlock on commons. Yadhu Krishna BP (talk) 13:14, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Talk page access

You recent activity has confirmed what some editors suggested long ago, namely that you just can't understand much of what is said to you. I'm not even going to attempt to explain to you all the ways in which your recent posts are inappropriate, because it's all been done before, without achieving anything. Nor am I going to bother to try to sort out whether you are failing to understand or lying when you make statements which anyone who spends one minute checking can see are untrue. Your presence on Wikipedia is just a waste of everyone's time, and I am going to restore the block on your talk page access which Dennis Brown imposed and which I lifted to give you another chance. My very last word on this is to repeat the advice I gave you before: wait a couple of years before making another unblock request, in the hope that by then you may have sufficient maturity to be able to contribute successfully. JBW (talk) 13:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

• I'm not inclined to get further involved at this time, and have no disagreement with JBW's handling nor conclusions. I'm part time at best for now, so any admin is free to take any action they feel is best for the encyclopedia without asking me first. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:46, 24 January 2023 (UTC)