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Here you claimed to also use the persona "French Jerry." On another site, I found a user claiming to be both French Jerry and Bubblefett. It seems pretty clear to me that you are the "brother" you blamed earlier, especially given your recent obsession with the sockpuppet article. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:22, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

@ian tomson. It is unright to block me from editing wikipedia. My brother is real, and just because we share the same x-box doesn't mean we are the same person. And my contribution to the sockpuppet article was to prove that I wasnt my brother "bubblefett". I am tired of the accusing. And unlike my brother, I do not rage or yell. I will simply ask that you remove the ban and I will leave the sockpuppet (internet) article alone. My ability to edit Wikipedia and my more expansive knowledge of Wikipedia should show you I am not him. Good day.

No. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@ian tomson. You have no proof, and I am contributing to wikipdia. So What proof do I need to show you that I am not the same person as my brother. Write me back with a better formed answer.Tonicwatergaming 15:17, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@ian tomson. Present more evidence and make your best argument. I shall make mine.

I hereby declare the situation of Tonicwatergaming's block be case #1. All are subject to thorough search by order of justice itself. This shall not be a disclosed discussion. All admins (that have "useful" info) are allowed to participate in the trial. Before submitting your case, be aware that using your influence as admin will not work, and all are equal on Wikipedia, whether banned or not.

@case#1. I know my brother has done things on here that are not acceptable. And I am being accused of making another account under a new personality known as "Tonicwatergaming". But I will first off say that we do share a many things, We share a X-box (and its account) but he does not play as much as I do, and I claim more ownership of the X-box and its account than him. So, next "justification". The sock puppet (internet) article was me trying to stop what happend to me, from happening from anyone else. I, in turn am not an example of sockpuppetry. Rather the opposite. I have also contributed to wikipedia. all he did was horse around. I dont know exactly what he did but I found out he did get banned. What Im also getting at is that if I shouldent have the same account as him on x-box, because it looks"suspicions", Then ill change it. and if the articles I edit arnt exactly what you want me to edit, then ill edit something else. I've tried to be accommodating since I created my first Wikipedia account. Trying not to do what my brother did. But all I got was a IP ban, then a short time of helping Wikipedia with my editing, then I get banned again for editing what I want to. So I ask you, with all of my true evidence presented, do you still really think that I'm user Bubblefett and was in the act of sockpuppetry? I will not beg or whine any longer, and I will not try orbribe or try to reason with you using emotion or non-fact based claims. Now the info below may not be credible to others, but It will give you proof that what I say is true.

I am tonicwatergaming, I share a bunk bed with my brother. I get up every day at 6:20 am for school, I usually leave for 7:40. I work all day on a computer at my school. I packup at 11:50, and go home at 12:00. I do my homework or not finished work until 1:00 I do soccer,church,programming,movies,professional lego building, and games the rest of the time. I will not give my specific details to my or my brother's real names, where we live, go to school, or our families names, for internet safety reasons.

I know its sketchey, and you think its all fake, but I know what I do every day. I will not push further, my brother told me how frustraiting the admins of Wikipedia are, and some of its his fault, but Im starting to believe what he is saying about Wikipedia. Also what my teachers have always said about Wikipedia, my Tutors, My Principal even. Do you know what they say?

"don't get your information from wikipedia, anyone can edit it, and most likely its not true."

I rest my case, and possibly my account. Goodbye.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonicwatergaming (talk • contribs)

As I said before: you claimed to be French Jerry. On another website (I can't access your Xbox data), French Jerry claims to be Bubblefett. Therefore, if you are French Jerry, and French Jerry is Bubblefett, then you are Bubblefett.

Now, amidst your red herrings about an Xbox and your non sequitur attempt at an ad hominem on the site's reliability, you present the alternate hypothesis that your brother is a distinct individual. Compared to the "Tonicwatergaming = French Jerry = Bubblefett" hypothesis, your claim requires additional assumptions that have not been addressed. Per Occam's razor, the "TWG = FJ = BF" hypothesis is preferable.

As for our reliability: we know we're not an academic source, we're a general reference. Our reliable sourcing guidelines prohibit Wikipedia from citing itself as a source for a reason. And you can tell your principle that we wouldn't let your "brother" edit it. :) Ian.thomson (talk) 23:40, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@ian tompson. Your attitude at the end is unwelcome. My whole school says that it is untrustworthy. And my principal did not say he could edit Wikipedia. Its was something he did on his own. I have contributed to Wikipedia. And I am serious about my brother. Your formula is wrong. I do advise you to yet again remove your block. All I have to convince you are my words. And you dont believe them. A formula is what I propose. Also, P€lease consider the work that I have done on Wikipedia. It is helpful. edits like fallout 4 ,star wars, and another I cannot remember right now. Or you could look in the log. I am a good person. And all I want to do is develop and help Wikipedia. I dont spam,cheat,lie, etc. I control my anger, and build, not destroy. You however, go out on a limb just because be share the same house, internet (not even the same computer!), and x-box. Will it take me to have to loose all my data on an X-box acount, or to push my brother off it and make him mad. And cause disruption between us. Not all internet persona is bad. Here is my info, and my brother is useless in helping me. So I wont make you create another "formula" for me talking to my brother on Wikipedia.

my "formula"

if TWG=BF=FJ then TWG get banned.

but....if TWG-FJ= TWG not banned.

so.. if TWG gives BF FJ (TWG-FJ then allows BF+FJ) then TWG does NOT equal BF.

So if FJ was never entered into the equation. then TWG is scott free to improve Wikipedia.

BUT......

since you think that TWG=FJ=BF is true, all said before is voided

what if TWG owned 3/4ths of FJ, and BF owns the 1/4 of FJ left over.

Then your formula is incorrect.

Because TWG does not fully equal FJ, so FJ cannot fully equal BF.

So TWG IS NOT BF.

Tonicwatergaming 15:12, 14 March 2017 (UTC)