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Re:Empire Earth[edit]

Thunderforge, I would like to thank you for your clean up of the Art of Conquest. To be honest, I think you done a good job on helping create an article which has the Neutral Point of View. Thanks a lot! InGenX


Nice work on the Empire Earth pages. I would like to add some excerpts from a posted history from a long time player of the multiplayer game. The history is located here. If you think this is a good idea let me know. Thanks. EE Fan.

Since I can't figure out who you are (There's no user page for "EE Fan") and you didn't sign your post, I hope that you will see my message here. I think that the EE page could definitely benefit from some history about the game. However, I'm cautious about what value the history the player you referred to can provide. It seems to me like it's just about his experiences playing this game, which don't really belong in an encyclopedic article (just as my or your experiences wouldn't belong either). However, I'd really like to be pleasantly surprised if you can come up with something of real value from this (maybe something about Sierra's tournament that was hosted?). So, I'd say go ahead and put something up and be bold. After that, we'll decide if it should remain up there. Thunderforge 03:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Sounds good, I'll do my best. Thanks again.

"Justified and Ancient" etc.[edit]

Many thanks for your reviews and constructive feedback for The KLF song and album articles. Your comments are appreciated. I fully understand and accept your concerns about coverage and stability.

Regarding the comprehensibility, it was nice to be reviewed by someone with no preconceptions of the band or their work. The KLF were, to understate things, a very bizarre duo, with loads of odd recurring themes and a taste for controversy. The KLF main article explains this in depth, but currently its "satellite" articles do not go into the same level of detail. This is, I guess, fair enough, much as a maths article such as Hurwitz's automorphisms theorem does not explain what an automorphism or a group is. In other words, there's a hierarchy. But the specialist maths articles can be found through only a handful of very relevant articles, whereas Justified and Ancient can be reached through Tammy Wynette (for example), which is potentially confusing. So that's is a good point well raised. On top of more detail, those articles need signposts to the deeper explanations in The KLF article. I'm not sure these comments apply to The "What Time Is Love?" Story, however: this is a more specialist article, currently only linked in the prose of "What Time Is Love" (and other than prose, only in The KLF discography and in album chronology infoboxes).

The non-neutrality I also accept, though less willingly, because in creating the articles we've been making use of an excellent on-line archive of media articles. The quotes that we've used are representative of the articles from which they're drawn, and the spread of quotes represents more or less everything of relevance from the archive. But because of The KLF's anarchic and provocative ways (frequently trying to subvert the music industry), they enjoyed a mainly favourable reaction from the music press to most of their work. And the music press are not the public at large. The articles will benefit from this being pointed out.

Apologies for the lengthiness of these musings. I've also added them to the Talk:Justified and Ancient page. Do you mind if we return for your opinions prior to resubmission?

Thanks again for valuable and thought-provoking feedback. :-) --Vinoir 23:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've updated Justified and Ancient as per most of your comments (and countered your "neutrality" and "newness" concerns). It's just been renominated. There's probably a few days to go before this gets reviewed - in the meantime it would be appreciated if you could give it an informal second look, including my rationale for renomination on Talk:Justified and Ancient. Thanks muchly. --Vinoir 10:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good articles[edit]

Well, over a long period of time, I've done quite a few of these similar type of celebrity articles. I didn't think to submit them until now. Right now, all the ones I've done are basically there - six have already been passed, I think most of the rest will too. I don't see much reason to take them down, they've been getting reviewed at a steady pace. This isn't really a competition - so the more good articles the merrier. Besides, you don't have to review my articles if you don't want to. :) Also, since all of mine are already up, it'll be a while before any more of mine are added. Mad Jack O'Lantern 05:09, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rise and Fall[edit]

Hi there Thunderforge. I noticed you removed the {{AOE}} template from the Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War article. I was the one who added the template, and I wanted to know your reasons for its removal before adding it back. If it makes sense, I won't add it. I have both Age of Empires 3 and Rise and Fall, and I can say that, aside from the "Hero Mode" they are very, very similar. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 02:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, ok. That's a very good reason, but I think I'll create another template, for all RTS/RTT games, to replace the one which has been deleted. I just suggested a wikiproject for strategy games; I can see you like them, would you care to vote? If you're interested, just add your name here. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 20:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject[edit]

Hi again Thunderforge. I just recently proposed a new WikiProject, for Strategy Games, which was promoted. I wanted to invite you to Wikipedia:WikiProject Strategy Games, because you are a good contributer to Strategy computer game articles. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 21:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thunderforge! I just wanted to tell you that the userbox has been proposed. You can suggest improvements here. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 00:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and while you're at it, you can vote on the first Collaboration for the project as well. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 00:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Empire Earth[edit]

Hey man take a look at this. Did I mess something up or can I add it into the article? All I did was get rid of some uneeded headings and combine some stuff.--Clyde (talk) 04:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's alright. I actually thought you would be more overprotective to the article, but you are telling me to shorten it. That I can do (I'm glad I have your permission). Finally, the trivia section is removed unless a source can be found, then I'd probably put it as a subsection in reception. Merry Christmas (eve).--Clyde (talk) 15:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I reduced the article as best I could, mostly focusing on the epochs. The storyline is not much longer than StarCraft, and starcraft has it's own storyline article, so I think it's alright. Unless you really don't want me to, I'm going to add my version.--Clyde (talk) 16:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

um...yeah[edit]

So I wrote this, anything you add would help. I used this for ideas, if that helps you.--Clyde (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas![edit]

A little late, but it's better than nothing. :-) | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Thunderforge! | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
May you and your family have a Merry Christmas, as well as any other Holiday you may celebrate. I hope that warmth, good cheer, and love surround you during these special days. May God bless you during the Holidays. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply] File:Julekort.jpg
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Thank you. :-) | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 10:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Empire Move[edit]

Well alright, it's cool to disagree, I just thought since at the time I moved Empire Earth, the vote was 6 for and 2 against (it still is 6 for and 3 against). All the games you citied as not having disambig pages simply haven't had the move take place, and Age of Empires has a dablink to the series page. You can go ahead and move Empire Earth back, but it's kinda tedious and annoying to move back and forth and fix all the links. If they do decide to standardize the disambig pages, you or I might have to redo all the work I just finished. You might want to wait and see what the verdict is about disambig pages, then we can decide about what to do from there. What are your thoughts about putting a dablink in Empire Earth to the series article?--Clyde (talk) 01:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well if Empire needs to be moved back, I can do it, but I still like what you did with the Age of Empires page by putting in a dablink. Do you want to do that for Empire instead of a disambig page? Personally I think it is better, and more of a compromise.--Clyde (talk) 15:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. We all have bad days. I had to have the admins delete one of mine. Funny story there. ; )
Sorry I was a little vague with my response. I think my opinion stands as use a dablink if there are only two articles, such as the game and the series. If there are more articles than just the series and the game (Metal Gear) then use a disambig page. I'm also going to leave this as a comment on the survey.--Clyde (talk) 16:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Kenna Good Article nomination[edit]

Could you give that article another look and be more specific what needs to be done? Do you think it doesn't flow well because you don't understand it? If not, then I don't see how it is so poorly written that it fails GA immediately without putting it on hold. I could understand if it was a Featured Article Candidate, but it's just a good article nomination. I made a few minor edits, for what it's worth. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Strategy games[edit]

Hello Thunderforge.

WikiProject Strategy games has finished it's first collaboration: Risk (game) (). We are now asking for nominations and input for a new one. Please voice your ideas at the talk page.

Clyde (talk) and WikiProject Strategy games.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Strategy games[edit]

Hello Thunderforge.

WikiProject Strategy games finished it's first collaboration on Risk (game). We have voted for possible candidates for the next collaboration, and three finalists have been selected:

  1. . Stronghold (2001 game)
  2. . Age of Empires
  3. . Age of Empires II

If possible, please vote here on which of these articles to collaborate on. Thank you.

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Thanks anyway[edit]

I guess your on Wookiepedia now, but I thought you might want to know that EE and AoC are good articles now. Thanks for laying the foundation.--Clyde (talk) 19:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Kane Picture from C&C[edit]

The image is indeed, as you guessed, taken from the first game in the series, C&C: Tiberian Dawn. The reason you did not see the end pictured here is becuase there are two seperate ends engineered into the last GDI Mission, and the end you get depends on what you used to destroy the Temple of Nod in the last mission. If, like me, you used ground and air units to destroy the temple and they got the last shot (meaning that a ground or air unit destroyed the temple using its missiles or guns) then the ending you get shows caine being crushed by debris from the Temple of Nod as it collapses. If the Ion Cannon gets the last word in edge wise (meaning the Ion Cannon fires the shot that destroys the Temple) then the ending you see is the one pictured here, with Kane embracing the light from the Ion Cannon as the Temple is destroyed. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:52, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Command And Conquer[edit]

For the wikify tag, I think that the article's tone and point of view can be improved. (I know that the tag might be too serious, but there is no other I can find that is appropriate. Sorry for any misunderstanding.) --KelvinHOWiknerd(talk) 01:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Command & Conquer[edit]

That is your opinion.Asrghasrhiojadrhr (talk) 07:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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A Phantom Template Appears![edit]

{{helpme}} Recently, I looked at the page Olive Garden and noticed that at the bottom, there were two templates, one for Darden Restaurants and another for the Periodic Table. Obviously, the Periodic Table one whould be appearing, so I tried to delete it. However, I can't find it anywhere in the code! The Darden one is there as {{darden}}, but the Periodic Table one is nowhere to be found. How can it be appearing if it's not in the page code? EDIT: I also just noticed that the "See Also" includes "Sodium," "Sodium chloride," and "Salt," all of which don't appear in the page code either. What's going on? EDIT2: I logged off and didn't see any of this. I logged in and it was there again. Again, what in the world is going on?-Thunderforge (talk) 05:32, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi it appears to have been vandalism that has already been reverted. You should try purging your cache. Purge DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, the problem is still there after I clear my cache. I've tried it on both IE 7 and Firefox 3. When I'm not logged in, I don't see these things. When I do log in, I do. I've got no clue why I would be the only one seeing them. -Thunderforge (talk) 23:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It might be a cookie issue. Have you tried clearing your wikipedia cookie? - NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 23:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That fixed it. However, I'm still not sure why it would have happened on two separate browsers, the second of which being one that I hardly ever used. But nonetheless, the problem was fixed. Thank you both for your help. -Thunderforge (talk) 23:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The first Wikipedian meetup in Ohio[edit]


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Pizza Lucé[edit]

Wikipedia's criterion for inclusion is called Wikipedia:Notability, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? See WP:42.

Your article's references were all to the company's own sites, except for one 1999 newspaper comment about the employees' tattoos.

Regarding Ray's Pizza, I should say first that, because we know many of our 4,000,000 articles are below standard, the argument What about that other article? is not accepted, each article is considered on its own merits. But that article has three substantial comments from the New York Times and one from the Huffington Post.

I have userfied the article for you - moved it into your user space at User:Thunderforge/Pizza Lucé where you can add to it if you can find more independent references. There was an earlier version, deleted four years ago for the same reason, which you can now see in the history, but I do not think you will find it any help as it has no reference but the company's site.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thunderforge. I don't really agree that the Pizza Luce article was a clear cut case for speedy deletion and am disappointed that we didn't catch it during the edit-a-thon. If you don't mind, I'll work from the version in your user space and take a stab at recreating the article. Cheers, Gobōnobō + c 02:06, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, feel free to continue working on it! -Thunderforge (talk) 01:22, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I recently uploaded File:Swing example on Windows 7.png using the file upload wizard. However, I'm not sure if I made the correct choices with regards to license. Basically, it's a screenshot of Java code (under the Java Binary Code License) from Wikipedia (under the Creative Commons license) being run on the proprietary Windows 7 (under its own license?). My guess was that it was fair use of copyrighted material since Windows 7 is proprietary, but I have no idea if that's correct. If someone could review this and correct the license if it's not right, I would be obliged. -Thunderforge (talk) 15:40, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

you seen correct in this instance. --Mdann52talk to me! 20:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Thunderforge. I'm contacting you to follow-up on the RfC on userspace protection that you participated in. After a discussion at T149445, it looks like a filter is a better approach to implementing these changes. We're developing some language for a message that editors will see when the filter is triggered. Comments and suggestions on this message are welcome at the talk page. Take care, I JethroBT drop me a line 16:04, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fake news website[edit]

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Abby Johnson vs Planned Parenthood[edit]

Do you watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Abby_Johnson_(activist)#Recent_revert ? If you want to add your paragraph again, here are references might satisfy better: A more reliable ref to the 1st document (exactly the same court document) can be found at https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2677192/abby-johnson-v-planned-parenthood-of-houston/ . Another article with the same content as the 3rd ref is at https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/planned-parenthood-accused-of-filing-millions-of-dollars-in-false-medicaid-claims This last ref also includes part of the ADF quote used in the last sentence by Thunderforge.--Ferdilouw (talk) 05:49, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Superbhub as a source[edit]

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Cara Ellison[edit]

Hello. It says at Talk:Cara Ellison that you proposed the article for deletion, but I can't find a deletion discussion anywhere. Did one take place? Many thanks, --Viennese Waltz 16:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I know you're busy in real life, but I was just wondering if you had had any thoughts on my query above. Many thanks, --Viennese Waltz 08:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for following up again. Here was my original deletion request. However. It seems that it was reverted because I didn't go about the deletion proposal in the correct manner. At the time, I didn't feel like fighting it, but I still think she isn't notable enough and would support anyone who wanted to go about trying to propose the article for deletion. Let me know if I can help further. Thunderforge (talk) 19:53, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. I agree and will propose it for deletion later. --Viennese Waltz 06:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the deletion discussion is now up at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cara Ellison, feel free to participate if you wish. --Viennese Waltz 07:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Food allergy[edit]

I reverted your four edits (the two paragraphs). Medical/health articles have a high standard for references, defined at WP:MEDRS. Basically, individual clinical trials and case study reports are not sufficient. Instead, refs need to be review, systematic review or meta-analysis articles published in peer-reviewed journals. This is not to say that perceived allergen exposure can trigger symptoms, but rather than better references are needed. David notMD (talk) 14:05, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A PubMed search on pseudo-allergic-reactions, limited to reviews, yielded a sparse and mostly not recent (20-30 years old) literature on allergic reactions in absence of blood testing for markers that confirm a true allergy. My opinion is that this is not strong enough to support a psychology or pseudo-allergy subsection. David notMD (talk) 14:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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