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A couple comments about Infobox Rabbi/Jewish leader:

1. "Position" is misspelled everywhere
2. Not sure why "Created Kohan" is there. Did you mean "Kohen"? If so, you aren't "created" a kohen ... you are born one.

-shirulashem^(talk) 01:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

John Logie Baird

Hi, just saw your latest edit to John Logie Baird. Not long ago, we'd had an edit war with people changing his nationality from British to Scottish nearly every week. Our compromise was to list his nationality as Scottish but his citizenship as British. It's an imperfect solution, but unless WP has developed some consistent policy on this sort of thing (last I checked it had not), I would be grateful if you would revert your edit. Kind regards, Clevelander96 (talk) 23:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Trouble is that Scottish is an ethnicity not a nationality so I really shouldn't. The Quill (talk) 16:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Same thing for Richard Burton, who is far more often described as a Welsh actor than a British actor. If you have a problem with categories such as Category:Welsh actors, then I suggest that the better course of action would be to propose merging them into Category:British actors at WP:CFD. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 11:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

This is a common confusion. "Nationality" in standard usage refers to membership of a nation, which is an entity defined on linguistic, historical or ethnic grounds (like Scotland and Wales). The term is also often used, however, to refer to politically defined entities like the United Kingdom (i.e. states), and the two can coincide. As a result of this, the term "nationality" is also often used as a synonym for "citizenship". This does not mean, however, that it can only be used in this way, and it's reasonable to maintain a distinction. In other words, it's very common and perfectly correct to refer to both Scottish and British as nationalities (although some people would only use the term for Scottish). But it would be incorrect in standard usage to refer to Scottish as a citizenship. garik (talk) 12:33, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Please use the talk pages before switching edits; others have opened up lines of communications regarding this topic, but so far I can not find a response from yourself. Discussion is the way forward. FruitMonkey (talk) 16:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Agree with FruitMonkey. The cycle is "Bold, Revert, Discuss", not "Bold, Revert, Ignore and revert." Continuing this behaviour may lead to you being seen as deliberately provocative or disruptive, which would be unfortunate. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 21:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)