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Hi, I saw your name on the WikiProject Christianity Membership page.

I've made some changes to the WP Christianity main project page, added several sup-project pages, created a few task forces section, and proposed several more possible changes so that we can really start making some serious progress on the project. Please stop by and see my comments on the project talk page here and consider joining a task force or helping out with improving and contributing to our sub-projects. Thanks for your time! Nswinton 13:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Your point of view on Mormons

from what i understand, user talk pages are the places to discuss things like this, so here i go.

why do you consider mormons to not be christians? Letuce 07:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

Hi, sorry for taking so long to get back, that is more to do with not spending much time on wikipedia and thus not noticing the comment untill now rather than anything else.

Anyway, in brief: my first reason, is that I have a friend who used to be mormon, and is now christian (anglican) and when in conversation about faith he occasionally mentions things like "yeah the mormons said X or Y, and didn't really believe in Z" Admitadly it would sound better if I could remember all the references however he himself considers there to be a very large gulf inbetween to the two systems of belief, enough to call them different religions. (I remember hearing about mormon belief that you HAVE TO BE MARRIED, and God himself is (hence heavenly parents), as was Jesus. Also that they don't really see grace as being as effective so there is something called a blood-sin...)

I think the main reasons I could descibe are:

1. - existance of a mother God (as well as God the father)
2. - The idea that God was once a man, and that man can become like God
3. - They have added to the scripture in such a way as to change theology (via the book of Mormon). This new revelation (if we assume it is genuine say and J Smith really did receive the book in the way he describes from God) would surely change the religion in the same was as the belief in Jesus and NT changes Judaism to Christianity.

1. - The idea of an apostasy (that God would let people live without him for hundreds of years before talking to Joseph Smith) seems whilst not strictly un-Christian very inconsistent with the idea of a Loving God who has just previously to the apostasy giving Jesus to save the world. To say he would then sit back before doing anything rather than continuing to interact with the church (in a similar way he had with the Jews for thousands of years) is just incongruent with the idea of God the rest of the bible paints.

[but then this is disputable as some protestant groups I would call Christian believe in an apostasy]

Finally Mormons do not subscribe (unless I am mistaken) to the Nicaean Creed. In fact they seem to differ on quite a few things. Surely the closest thing to a definition is whether or not you uphold it (if not by name but if your beliefs are equivalent to those in the creed).

Does this answer your question?

Oh and finally I believe it to be false (either J Smith was deluded or was deluding, which I know not), and therefore as a erroneous belief it is not Christianity.

--TM-77 (talk) 13:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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