User talk:Sysiphis

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You cited a video and a doctor's report on his own website. Please cite reliable secondary sources, published independently. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:28, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I did not cite the doctor's website, I cited the John Fetterman campaign site, johnfetterman.com, who published the copy of the medical report from Dr. Clifford Chen. Is the Fetterman campaign not a reliable source of a medical report written and signed by Fetterman's own doctor?

And that video interview with Fetterman was conducted by NBC. The interviewer did not publish the interview, NBC did. NBC also published an article based on that interview. Shall I cite that instead? It contains the video embed. Excerpts from this same video interview are used in the 2022 US Senate race section of Fetterman's article. Sysiphis (talk) 02:47, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add or change content, as you did at John Fetterman, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:23, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Was my source not reliable? Sysiphis (talk) 01:24, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The NBC News interview is. His website, maybe not. Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:29, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but the letter from his doctor that was published on his website is about Fetterman himself. I believe this should be okay because WP:ABOUTSELF and it seems to meet all the requirements listed there. Sysiphis (talk) 07:40, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It can be seen as violating 1 (self-serving) and 2 (his doctor is a third party) of ABOUTSELF. Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:51, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The part I cite is simply stating that he has attended speech therapy since his stroke. I fail to see how this could be self-serving, unless perhaps we believe it is sugarcoated and his treatment is much more extensive. Also, this is not a claim about a third party, it is a claim about Fetterman, which is using his doctor's letter as expert backing. At any rate, a simple attribution in the text should clear this up, no? Sysiphis (talk) 08:10, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No. The information from the campaign website can be seen as self-serving, as in eliciting sympathy for votes, because of the nature of the website itself, and disclosing the doctor's note is indeed a claim involving his doctor, a third party to Fetterman. Morbidthoughts (talk) 16:11, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]