User talk:Rabbi Zaltzman
September 2019[edit]
Hello, I'm Leventio. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, University of Toronto, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Leventio (talk) 07:46, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
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(User:Rabbi Zaltzman) Dear Mr. or Mrs. Leventio, please STOP ANTI-SEMITISM in the Wikipedia. The Superior Court of Justice in Toronto is the most reliable source one can imagine, and for the lawsuit I mentioned in the page about the University of Toronto its official court file number was provided. If you are against Israel and Jews, you can't demonstrate your views so openly in the Wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabbi Zaltzman (talk • contribs) 08:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Providing an arbitrary court file number in which readers are not able to follow up with through a citation/link is not considered providing a reliable source. Again, I've already linked it in the earlier notice, but please read WP:CITE so you can understand how to properly implement a citation into the content you wish to add (also I don't know what your trying to accuse me of, but if you read said notice I placed, you are free to add it so long as you provide a citation from a reliable source). In saying that, keep in mind, when implementing the content, maintain a neutral point of view (per WP:NPOV, a pillar of Wikipedia). The content that is added should not favour either plaintiffs or defendants until the court has actually made its decision. Leventio (talk) 08:13, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
(User:Rabbi Zaltzman) I've followed your instructions and added a different content related to anti-Semitism and other forms of racism and discrimination in the University of Toronto, supplied with very reliable and well-known official sources in the Wikipedia and the Internet. I urge you more time not to support anti-Semitism in the Wikipedia through unjustly removing my ads. Thank you. Rabbi Zaltzman.
- Please note that the way you implemented the citation is inccorect, although it has since been corrected by another user (we do not use inline templates, we embed the citations afterwards). Also, keep in mind, that we do not permit WP:OR (original research), or the WP:SYN of content between multiple sources (part of the concept of WP:RS is that Wikipedia should only be repeating information already published). So it is highly suggested that you phrase the cited content to reflect what is actually written in said citations (in the content you added, the first citation specifically deals with one case of sexual assault, not racism, nor does it highlight "a large amount of cases"). I've added a second citation for Kin-Yip Chun (he was not brought up in any citations), and edited the Ari Blaff prose (not sure if you read the citation provided for that person in particular, but the first sentence literally states the institution exonerated the professor of wrongdoing). I also moved the added content to history (as it deals with the history of the institution).
- Also, based off this last comment, I'd advise you read WP:NOTADVOCACY. Wikipedia is not a place for ads or advocacy of any kind (as a neutral platform). Also, I'd seriously urge you to reconsider your approach of just "accusing people who undid my edits" of "supporting Anti-Semitism." It generally not a good look to throw an accusation of that nature so early in ones conversation. Leventio (talk) 17:16, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
I think the text my ad was replaced by has the same meaning and sense for everyone compassionate to the common struggle against racism, discrimination and anti-Semitism as one of their forms, even though this text still tries to decorate the bitter truth and hence suppress it in a Soviet Union style. But suppressing any truth always results, eventually, in its total disclosure. I also think that 6 millions of Jewish victims of the Holocaust supplied the Jews with a right to accuse of anti-Semitism anyone trying to suppress the truth about any anti-Semitic and anti-Israel actions wherever in the world!
- I'm glad we can come to an understanding on the proposed added content (that said, I don't know where the Soviet-era comparison originates from, but the content corrected was in line with making it reflect what is written in the citations). Also, your free to levy any accusations you want, I was just informing you that its not a good look when starting a conversation with another individual. Leventio (talk) 19:56, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
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December 2019[edit]
Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to University of Toronto. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Magnolia677 reverted your edits, not me. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 18:28, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
(User:Rabbi Zaltzman) Your message is a big, big lie: I never added commentary, my own point of view, or my own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, but I always added only facts: which complaints concerning anti-Semitism and other kinds of racism in the University of Toronto were filed. By unlawfully removing my ads, you openly and clearly discriminate Jews in the Wikipedia, violate the Wikipedia's policy and hence break the Law, as any kind of discrimination on the ground of nationality or/and religion is a criminal offence. My recent ad that you had removed contained a reference to an absolutely reliable source with quite a number of official documents (such as official letters from the Offices of the Prime Minister and Attorney General of Canada, Ombudsman of Ontario, court documents etc.). If you prefer, we can officially and politically regulate this conflict and your misuse of power via an appropriate court (as well as through many available webforums!), but the Wikipedia is definitely not a place for discriminating Jews (including any repressions for fighting the Holocaust denial propaganda -- they are absolutely equivalent to justifying Nazism and concentration camps!) in the XXI-th century!
- I see what you mean, but the last part of that edit is against WP:NPOV. Maybe refactor wording? Or add a bit more of a formal tone?? And the accusation of Nazism is a bit much; it's a simple WP:NPOV issue. EDIT: I've found the part which is the issue: ' the Holocaust denial propaganda at the university's campus.'. Its too much to say that they have 'Holocaust denial propaganda' at the university. N0nsensical.system(err0r?) 10:44, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Response[edit]
Yelp just isn't appropriate as a reference in Wikipedia. For example, the part of the article that you placed your text immediately after about Professor Hansen being cleared by UT in his interaction with Ari Blaff is referenced to https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/university-of-toronto-clears-professor-following-dispute-with-jewish-student . While I'd prefer to have a source that didn't at one time employ Ari Blaff (and will add a reference to an article from the Toronto Sun), that part of the article is fine and the standards for wikipedia, IMO. Yours has several problems including referencing to yelp, the case numbers don't belong and please see Wikipedia:RIGHTGREATWRONGS for general comments on Tendentious editing. Removing the edit that you made does not show Anti-Semitism. Note, I'm Jewish and I lost family in the Extermination Camps, so feel free to go after me instead, if you think I'm being Anti-Semetic.Naraht (talk) 11:35, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
(User:Rabbi Zaltzman) "I'm Jewish and I lost family in the Extermination Camps" -- a claim with no proof, while the yelp page I referred to contains DOCUMENTS, and the family name of the Ph.D. student (who lost a GREAT number of relatives in the extermination camps and gettos in 1941-1945 and can present a PLENTY of DOCUMENTS for that issue too!) is the MOST JEWISH FAMILY NAME in the world. Even if you're a Jew: some Jews served the Nazies, as you may know, and were prosecuted for that after the WWII, so it won't clear you in supporting the anti-Semitic cause (and if you doubt there is a big number of individuals distributing Holocaust denial propaganda literature at the UofT's campus, you just ignore the truth as sooo many people can confirm it!) It's a public issue, readers just see (by the history page) that the truth about anti-Semitism in the UofT (at all levels!) is being SEVERELY SUPPRESSED in the Wikipedia, whom will they believe? It's a Soviet Union style of thinking: to be sure that people would support the official point of view when they see thousands of facts contardicting it! Don't you think people wouldn't support simple Jews? It's a Soviet Union style of thinking, it's 1937 in the Wikipedia! You can use your power in the same style, but who would believe you?!
- Sigh. I'm not really sure what level of documentation you'd take, I'm simply not willing to inflict you on my Great Uncle Emil who lives in Toronto. As for the rest, feel free to look through my approximately 75,000 edits on Wikipedia to identify other places where I've been anti-semetic. Oddly enough my recent edits other than here have been on adding to the Category structure of Jewish Religious Organizations and placing historically Jewish Fraternities like Alpha Epsilon Pi in them.. In short, the rejection of the addition has nothing to do with the fact that it had to do with Judaism, it would have been equally inappropriate if it had to do with the Sinhalese and Tamil over an issue in Sri Lanka. I feel I am performing Tzedakah to User:Leventio and User:Magnolia677 by trying to deal with you.Naraht (talk) 12:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
December 2019[edit]
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Yunshui 雲水 13:21, 9 December 2019 (UTC)“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” ― Abraham Lincoln. First of all, you are performing Tsedakah to the University of Toronto who paid you for covering up its total anti-Semitism (I'm not the fist or last one to complain; and, by the way, there were also complaints against its collaborators who openly distributed anti-Semitic literature at the Department of Physics, if you don't yet know!). Common people won't research your activity in the Wikipedia and they're not willing to know anything about your uncles, they just see one obvious thing: you cover up an apparent classical (by all standards!) case of anti-Semitism and hence new cases of racism will happen again in this university, nobody is guaranteed against a racist abuse and violence ... A good place to study in! Everything is simple as an apple! Are you going to block in the Wikipedia everyone who wishes to tell the truth about the UofT and official complaints against this university?
Rabbi Zaltzman (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I never violated any regulations of the Wikipedia, all my ads contained only well-known facts and references to reliable sources such as mass media or/and popular review sites (like Yelp.com) where a number of official documents (such as letters from the Offices of Prime Minister and Attorney General of Canada and the Ombudsman and Ministry of Training, Universities and Colleges of Ontario, as well as some orders of judges) were published. I did nothing related to the reasons I can be blocked for in the Wikipedia: Expose a popular artist as a child molester; or Vindicate a convicted murderer you believe to be innocent; or Explain the "truth" or "reality" of a current or historical political, religious, or moral issue, or Spread the word about a theory/hypothesis/belief/cure-all herb that has been unfairly neglected or suppressed by the scholarly community
Decline reason:
In reviewing your edits, I must concur with the reason for the block. Wikipedia is not for the purposes you seem to be here for. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 20:43, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
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Rabbi Zaltzman (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
it's a total abuse of regulations and misuse of power to block me here. Whether the official letters from the Offices of the Prime Minister and Attorney General of Canada, the Ombudsman and Ministry of Training, Universities and Colleges of Ontario in support of this Israeli Ph.D. student are not reliable documents???!!! The actions of administrators are vandalism and "righting great wrongs", not mine! If I am not immediately unblocked, I will organize, through numerous Jewish/Israeli webforums, a GREAT SCANDAL, and a reference to those official letters and lawsuit/complaints will be published in the UofT Wikipedia page anyhow (via other Wikipedia editors, you can't block everyone!) as they totally correspond to the Wikipedia's policy and people have rights to use this PUBLIC resource with no discrimination (that is a criminal offence), Jews among them!
Decline reason:
Wikipedia is not a public resource. As you have threatened legal action, I have revoked your talk page access as per WP:NLT. Once your legal action is complete, or if you unconditionally withdraw your legal threat and your threat to organise and cause scandals, you may request your talk page be reinstated via WP:UTRS. You will want to read WP:GAB before requesting an unblock because quite frankly, your unblock requests here have zero chance of success and are breathtakingly inappropriate. Yamla (talk) 11:23, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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Sockpuppet investigation[edit]
An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rabbi Zaltzman, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.
Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)