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Okay, Quaffel, as suggested/requested on my talk page, here is a Welcome template:

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Hallo Flyer,

Would it be okay if I place a link in the "see also" box reffering to another page dealing with the topics I wrote about in the section "weight & drug addiction"? I did not edit that one and it's about the trial in 2011. I'm not sure because it's not a page specifically about health. Thanks! Quaffel (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2013‎ (UTC)

While I'm not Flyer, I'd be skeptical about adding non-health-related links to the "see also" section. What exactly do you want to link to? Huon (talk) 02:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I have the same question as Huon. Flyer22 (talk) 19:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Hallo Huon, Hallo Flyer I mean a link to the wikipedia page Trial of Conrad Murray because it deals more detailed with the testimonies I quoted and those of other medical professionals. But I just saw that this article currently has multiple issues, so I decided not to do it even if it would be possible. Thank you for your support. Quaffel (talk) 20:53, 7 May 2013‎ (UTC)

I see. And you're welcome. Either way, that would not have been an appropriate WP:SEE ALSO link.

Also, remember to sign your username at the end of the comments you make on Wikipedia talk pages. All you have to do to sign your username is simply type four tildes (~), like this: ~~~~. I signed your username for you twice above. Flyer22 (talk) 16:20, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Actually, despite what I stated in the crossed-out line above, adding the Trial of Conrad Murray link to the See also section in the Michael Jackson's health and appearance article is appropriate since it relates Jackson's health, but it's not as appropriate to add it as a see also link in the "Weight and drug addiction" section. Flyer22 (talk) 16:28, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

And don't forget that the matter is already addressed in the Death of Michael Jackson article, which is linked in the Death section of the Michael Jackson's health and appearance article. Flyer22 (talk) 16:32, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

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Regarding this? No, it's not about you asking for help. See above, years ago, when I helped you? That was about help. Years later, you still don't know much about editing here. You chose to be a WP:Single purpose account and not edit much outside of the article in question, therefore stifling your growth as an editor here. You cannot expect experienced editors to keep helping you with any and everything when you are not helping yourself. Furthermore, helping you involves reverting you when you are wrong. When the more experienced editor tells you that you are wrong about a Wikipedia matter, you should listen. Not be stubborn and engage in a WP:Edit war. If you think I'm just going to let you do whatever you want at the article in question, think again. The rules are not with you. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 12:09, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

And regarding this, the WP:ONUS is on you. I do not have to keep bringing in other editors just to prove you wrong. You are supposed to be following the rules, rules you would know if you actually took the time to learn them or listen when editors tell you what they are. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 12:17, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hi @Ninja Diannaa:,I apologise for my edits. I wasn't aware I was breaking the rules. Thanks for your advice.Quaffel (talk) 14:22, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Ninja Diannaa:, One of the edits wasn't mine. I just moved it to another section. It has been in the artcle for a long time. Am I also responsable when I move something to another section? Do I have to check the edit before moving? Quaffel (talk) 14:43, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Did you move it from one section to another? Or did it come from a different article? Can you please show me the edit where you removed it? Thanks, — Ninja Diannaa (Talk) 14:47, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Ninja Diannaa: I moved it within the article. On September 28, I copied it to the new section (death investigation) at 13.15. At 13.17 I deleted the moved part in the drug addiction section. The edit at 13.13 was actually when I created the new section. Why is that a violation? In my last edit on September 29, I removed something from the article that wasn't stated in the source. What's the problem with that? The edit summary? I just wanteed to point out what he really said and used a quote from the source.Quaffel (talk) 15:10, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

The edit in question was the one at 09:48 on the 28th. Edit summary was "Adding content". So the content from the LA Times that I had to remove was not part of the edit where you moved material from one part of the page to another. None of it was framed as a quotation. — Ninja Diannaa (Talk) 15:30, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

@Ninja Diannaa: Okay. Thank you! But why are the other edits grey as well?Quaffel (talk) 15:46, 29 September 2021 (UTC) Okay, I think I found it out myself.Quaffel (talk) 19:01, 29 September 2021 (UTC) @Ninja Diannaa: I just read Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources and now I understand that my changes weren't extensive enough. Can I use the source when I write something about it in 2 or 3 sentenes in my own words? Or am I not allowed to use it again?Quaffel (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Of course you can write two or three sentences in your own words using that source. In fact that's how we write articles. :) — Ninja Diannaa (Talk) 21:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

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Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Health and appearance of Michael Jackson, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. You cant just restore it to June 2021 Avi :D (talk) 06:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Mainly I'm reverting myself. Almost everything since then was written by me. Some edits were made to fix my errors. There's currently a GAR about this and my edits waren't appreciated. I'm just restoring the last good version.Quaffel (talk) 06:26, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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