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Hi Pyhäinhäväistys. I am making contact with those Editors that take an active interest in Finnish football on English Wikipedia.
For a long time I have been happy to work on Finnish football on Wikipedia without making contact with other Finnish football enthusiasts - basically I like preparing articles / undertaking tasks that interest me and contact with others has not been important. However recently some of my work was changed by a Wikipedia Reviewer and this has led me to question what approach I should be following and indeed what approach would other Finnish football enthusiasts wish to adopt?
The basic question I am asking is whether Finnish League and Cup articles should have a Finnish or English title or some form of hybrid?
I provide examples below:
Finnish Title
English Title
Hybrid Title
2012 Veikkausliiga
2012 Finnish Championship
2012 Finnish Veikkausliiga
2012 Kolmonen
2012 Finnish Division 3
2012 Finnish Kolmonen
2012 Suomen Cup
2012 Finnish Cup
2012 Finnish Suomen Cup
2012 Suomen Liigacup
2012 Finnish League Cup
2012 Finnish Liigacup
1938 Maakuntasarja
1938 Finnish Division 3
1938 Finnish Maakuntasarja
1954 Suomensarja
1954 Finnish Division 2
1954 Finnish Suomensarja
1970 II divisioona
1970 Finnish Division 2
1970 Finnish II divisioona
1986 III divisioona
1986 Finnish Division 3
1986 Finnish III divisioona
1997 Ykkönen
1997 Finnish Division 1
1997 Finnish Ykkönen
I have read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) and Wikipedia:Article titles but have not reached a firm conclusion yet on the best way forward in establishing a consistent approach. The issue does matter with respect to the corrections I must make to existing pages and the tens of pages yet to be prepared. It could also carry implications for some of the articles that you currently contribute to.
I think that the matter would best be addressed on a proper basis and encourage that the issue is considered on the Talk Page of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Finland task force. If the matter is of concern to you as well, please add your name to the list of participants on the main page.
You may also wish to comment on the project structure that I have prepared. I think that we may have previously corresponded on the FutisForum2!
Kind regards - (Finnish Gas (Finnish Gas 14:13, 23 February 2012 (UTC)).[reply]
Hi. My humble opinion is that the Finnish names of the competitions should be used whenever possible. So Suomen Cup instead of Finnish Cup, Kolmonen instead of Division 3 etc. When you look at the Spanish football league system article here for example, they also have all the competition names in Spanish.
And yes, we've "met" at FF2 previously. :) And thanks for the help with Mikkelin Kissat's season to season positions by the way!
(sorry if this is in the wrong section, I really suck at using Wikipedia)
I have set up the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Finland task force to try to encourage good practice. For the Group to be viable it needs to have 3 or 4 members to start with. Is it possible for me to add your name to the participants. I just need a bit of advice now and again.
Kind regards (Finnish Gas (Finnish Gas 13:50, 24 February 2012 (UTC)).[reply]
Yes, you can add my 'nick' there and I'll try to help if you need any and if I can. :)
MiKi's V divisioona season is definitely problematic since there aren't any public documents about such low football tiers from the 80's. All I know is that MiKi won every game that season so they were definitely the first in the table and got promoted, but I have no idea what was their group's name/number. I'm not even sure if V divisioona was governed by the SPL Saimaa district or SPL itself...
Thanks Pyhäinhäväistys - much appreciated! I think that you will find that the V divisioona in 1984 was run by SPL Saimaan piiri. SPL would have been running IV divisioona at that time. Kind regards (Finnish Gas (Finnish Gas 19:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)).[reply]
Ok, I'll trust your information and put Saimaa in MiKi's section/lohko in 1984. Thanks!
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