User talk:OFoley

1 hole v 1 up

All previous Ryder Cup pages and similar contests on Wikipedia have used "1 hole" and not "1 up". see eg 2010 Ryder Cup, etc etc

Also see eg: http://www.randa.org/en/Championship-Golf/Amateur-Championships/Amateur-Championship/DrawScoringResults/MatchPlayBracket.aspx and many similar for the use of 1 hole, 2 holes etc

1 up is common usage but 1 hole is correct

Nigej 21:42, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I see your link...but Wikipedia should not be considered a source for continuing to list it like that. The official Ryder Cup scoring page has it listed as "Wins 1 Up."

I will concede that the non American usage of "1 Hole" may be common...but this is the US version of Wikipedia, and the appropriate terminology should be reflected based on what is used in the US.

http://www.rydercup.com/usa/scoring

• Actually there is no such thing as a US version of Wikipedia. There is an English Language Version which covers the whole world: US, UK, Canada, Australia, India, China, wherever. Admittedly there is also a principle that the style should reflect the location, so that, for example, American biographies use US spellings and UK biographies use UK spellings. The Ryder Cup is tricky because it covers US and Europe. Using different conventions depending on where the contest was would be impractical. All the other 38 Ryder Cup pages use 1 hole. I can see that the Presidents Cup and Solheim Cup use 1 up. As does PGA Championship; even Amateur Championship. However English Amateur and Scottish Amateur use 1 hole. Majority seems to be 1 up. My trouble is that just changing 2012 Ryder Cup and leaving the other 38 pages unchanged seems inconsistent. Not a new issue of course: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Golf/Archive_2#1_up_and_2_up_versus_1_hole_and_2_holes_in_Ryder_Cup_articles (from 2010). Could start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Golf. Could discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Golf. Nigej 08:44, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Look, we can go back and forth about this...but the OFFICIAL scoring shows it as "1 Up." I went through and changed a decades worth of Ryder Cup pages, and you obviously went in and changed them back. I'm not sure why you are so stubborn, but just because someone else listed it as "1 Hole" and people perpetuated the mistake by copying it does not make it the right thing to do.

If the official competition score lists the score as "1 Up," why do you think it should be any different. I will go back and edit all 38 pages if that makes you feel better...but you should not continue to change it back.