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Before you go and create more Touhou Project articles, I'll give you some advice. Gensokyo, as an article describing a fictional setting, does not appear to meet the guidelines set out at WP:GNG for notability, and thus inclusion on Wikipedia. Setting articles like this, or other articles that generally carry a lot of in-universe info on a series, have been deleted before, and it's generally frowned upon when such articles come into being, unless there is enough notability to create them. The primary sources of the game do not establish notability, which requires reliable third-party sources discussing out-of-universe concepts such as creation/conception at the very least. In short, not all articles on the Japanese Wikipedia should be translated over to the English Wikipedia, as we have better standards here for such content. I already placed a notability tag on Gensokyo, and if notability cannot be established, I'll end up redirecting it to the main article.--十八 21:00, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please do not do this unilaterally―if you think it should be removed, please list it at WP:AfD instad.
- As for my opinion, it should be noted that as this is a fictional setting of a very well-known series, it is at least as notable as the ones that already have a page in Category:Fictional universes. I have seen previous deletion discussions, and the reason why the delted ones failed notability was that they were mainly of series that were not very well-known. On the other hand, the fictional world of such a well-known series as Touhou Project is surely notable enough. Sources can be an issue, but as noted in WP:NNC general notability criteria does not restrict the content of what is to be discussed there. If you request it, I can provide some reliable sources that demonstrate that Touhou Project is notable enough for its canon to have its own page--New questions? 21:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- I also find it hard to believe that "we have better standards here for such content" given that their notability guideline is pretty much a direct translation from ours.--New questions? 22:57, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- The reason they were deleted was because they had no out-of-universe content, more than likely. And while WP:NNC does not restrict the content, the topic itself (Gensokyo) seems to fail notability as a stand-alone article. If you can provide notability, then you better do so, because I'll be taking it to WP:AfD at the end of the month if you don't. Any amount of in-universe content will not help establish notability if there's no real-world content, so you can't just translate the Japanese article, which I see you've been doing, as it has no real-world content that I can see.
- And in my experience, a variety of articles get created on other Wikipedias which would not survive an AfD here; the Japanese Wikipedia is just one example. The GA and FA standards on the English Wikipedia should reflect that. While the Japanese Wikipedia may have a copy/paste notability guideline, that does not mean it's enforced as much as it is here, I've found.--十八 23:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- If you do feel that way, you should list it at AfD right now rather than a month later to get this question settled. One of the things that makes it notable is somewhat separate from the in-universe content that it is about.--New questions? 23:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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Pointy AfD nominations[edit]
There is an ANI thread that someone already mentioned. Please stop. The right time to nominate those other articles was immediately after they were created and before multiple other editors worked on them. Nominating a bunch of older articles all at once in reaction to your recent article's nomination is disruptive and petty. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 04:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- I wonder who you are? You seem to have very few edits this year, most of which occur on in the past few days. Note that they were not in reaction to my own nomination of the article; they were based on my own opinion that they did not meet the notability guidelines. I do think that it should not be a problem to nominate articles for deletion if I think they do not meet the notability guidelines.--New questions? 04:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'm on a dynamic IP that changes fairly often so this current address only reflects a few days of editing. I dropped you a note because you offered at the AfD to stop making those nominations if someone asked you to do so outside the AfD. I only saw the AfD because of the ANI thread, so please consider this to be an outside request and please do stop. I do know what it feels like to see an article deleted that you have a lot of work invested in, so I extend my sympathy. But, your reaction isn't so good. What I always suggest if you're trying to establish notability for an article is don't stress out too much trying to source it while an AfD is in progress. Instead, save a copy offline, or ask for it to be moved to the wp:article incubator, and let the deletion go through. Then you can research more sources for as long as you want without having to beat the AfD deadline. Once you've got enough sources, you can recreate the article with the new sourcing added. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 05:01, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- I am not exactly trusting this entirely, so I still want another opinion before I agree to what essentially amounts to a self-imposed topic ban. As I said earlier, the AfDs that I initiated were based on my opinion that they were not notable, not as a "reaction" to that AfD, and I do not appreciate this accusation that it was based on such a reaction. Of course, you are free to ask around other people and ask them if they think that those nominations were disruptive or not.--New questions? 05:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- Your observation that those other articles have their own notability problems is described at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Many other people also said they felt that your nominations were pointy. Of course you are the only one who can truly know what is in your own mind, but in part for that reason, other people will form their own judgments (as they have done) and act on them regardless of what you say. Also, even completely separating the issue of your Gensokyo article, doing a lot of simultaneous nominations is somewhat disruptive unless the nominated articles are closely related. It's best to slow down, back off for a while, etc. Remember that the original request was just that you wait til the Gensokyo afd closes. Anyway, others can comment here if they want to. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 05:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- The only one who made the accusation was Juhachi so far, so I wonder what you mean by "many other people." It is a bit funny since I thought I already explained to Juhachi why my nominations were based on my own reasoning and not to cause disruption, but it seems like he jumped to the conclusion that I was out to cause disruption. I also find your statement, "doing a lot of simultaneous nominations is somewhat disruptive" to be quite inaccurate, since there are many who have many more ongoing nominations than I initiated. (Additionally, I do not see how OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is relevant to this topic. My observation that those other articles have their own notability problems merely indicates that perhaps they should be considered candidates for deletion if notability cannot be demonstrated.)--New questions? 05:33, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- Your observation that those other articles have their own notability problems is described at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Many other people also said they felt that your nominations were pointy. Of course you are the only one who can truly know what is in your own mind, but in part for that reason, other people will form their own judgments (as they have done) and act on them regardless of what you say. Also, even completely separating the issue of your Gensokyo article, doing a lot of simultaneous nominations is somewhat disruptive unless the nominated articles are closely related. It's best to slow down, back off for a while, etc. Remember that the original request was just that you wait til the Gensokyo afd closes. Anyway, others can comment here if they want to. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 05:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- I am not exactly trusting this entirely, so I still want another opinion before I agree to what essentially amounts to a self-imposed topic ban. As I said earlier, the AfDs that I initiated were based on my opinion that they were not notable, not as a "reaction" to that AfD, and I do not appreciate this accusation that it was based on such a reaction. Of course, you are free to ask around other people and ask them if they think that those nominations were disruptive or not.--New questions? 05:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- I'm on a dynamic IP that changes fairly often so this current address only reflects a few days of editing. I dropped you a note because you offered at the AfD to stop making those nominations if someone asked you to do so outside the AfD. I only saw the AfD because of the ANI thread, so please consider this to be an outside request and please do stop. I do know what it feels like to see an article deleted that you have a lot of work invested in, so I extend my sympathy. But, your reaction isn't so good. What I always suggest if you're trying to establish notability for an article is don't stress out too much trying to source it while an AfD is in progress. Instead, save a copy offline, or ask for it to be moved to the wp:article incubator, and let the deletion go through. Then you can research more sources for as long as you want without having to beat the AfD deadline. Once you've got enough sources, you can recreate the article with the new sourcing added. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 05:01, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
It looks like it was just Juhachi and Narutolovehinata5. From the length of the discussion it had looked like more people were involved, but it was mostly those two editors posting a lot. I'm sorry for the erroneous description. Even still, their advice is valid in my opinion. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 05:56, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- I agree that their advice is valid, so I have taken care to make sure that I actually had good reasons to initiate the deletion requests before doing so, and that I individually thought that they were suitable for deletion. If a third party gives an informed reason why those past deletion requests were disruptive, I would, of course, take heed to that.--New questions? 06:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- Their advice was that you stop nominating, so if you think it's valid advice then you should stop. The nominations give the impression of being pointy, in part because suitability for deletion is subjective (regardless of what the guideline says). And your nomination of those N other articles while wikilawyering to preserve the Gensokyo article gives impression (whether accurate or not) of inconsistent motivation. I have other things to do and can't spend any more time on this discussion but in my opinion you are escalating your demands, suddenly requiring "informed reasons" where before you said "I shall stop if someone actually does complain." I complained, so you changed gears and I think you will keep doing that no matter what I say, burning a bunch more of my time than you had led me to expect. If you say you will stop if someone asks, then when someone asks, you should stop immediately. If you're not willing to do that, you should not have made such an offer. You don't do what you say you are going do, so you have no more credibility on this issue. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 07:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- I see no reason to stop on the basis of "giving the impression of being pointy," which is why I am not keen on agreeing on it solely on that basis. If it was on the basis of "actually being pointy," then I would stop. I was not wikilawyering to preserve the Gensokyo article; if you read the discussion, I have provided reliable sources several times, which was the bulk of what I was saying there. It is just that there are certain points within that discussion that I agreed with, and I only used those points for justification in the deletions. Again, I do not appreciate such accusations that I have been inconsistent or wikilawyering.--New questions? 19:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- Their advice was that you stop nominating, so if you think it's valid advice then you should stop. The nominations give the impression of being pointy, in part because suitability for deletion is subjective (regardless of what the guideline says). And your nomination of those N other articles while wikilawyering to preserve the Gensokyo article gives impression (whether accurate or not) of inconsistent motivation. I have other things to do and can't spend any more time on this discussion but in my opinion you are escalating your demands, suddenly requiring "informed reasons" where before you said "I shall stop if someone actually does complain." I complained, so you changed gears and I think you will keep doing that no matter what I say, burning a bunch more of my time than you had led me to expect. If you say you will stop if someone asks, then when someone asks, you should stop immediately. If you're not willing to do that, you should not have made such an offer. You don't do what you say you are going do, so you have no more credibility on this issue. 67.117.147.20 (talk) 07:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Deprod of a list[edit]
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grammar?[edit]
u wrote grammar on al ahbash article but you didnt correct anything...whats the problem with it can you fix it thanks Baboon43 (talk) 00:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- It was just a period changed into a comma.--New questions? 00:52, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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Misaki[edit]
Hi New questions, saw your move of Misaki to Misaki uma. Fast question, if you speak Japanese. I think "uma" (馬) means "horse" in Japanese. So, per our naming conventions at WikiProject Equine (basically WP:USEENGLISH for the word "horse), I think we need to rename this article Misaki horse, rather than Misaki Uma. Am I correct on this translation? Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 19:20, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- I did the move in a rush, so yes, it was because I forgot to check that ahead of time. It should probably be moved to "misaki horse."New questions? 19:25, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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Inari no Kami?[edit]
Near the end of the article "Tenko (fox)", "Inari no Kami" is mentioned. It seems like this should say "Inari Ōkami", but I'm not sure. Which one is correct? -- Angry Red Hammer Guy (talk) 23:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)