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Reverting my edit of native names of Mumbai, Bengaluru and Kochi

May I know the reason why you have reverted the edit made to native name? Every city has its native name depending on the region it belongs to.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Prameetc (talk • contribs) 12:26, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Prameetc: You should read the reason given in the revert. I mentioned WP:INDICSCRIPT as the reason, please read this RfC. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:27, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
@User:LeoFrank: In such a case, there are many violations right now. Almost all pages of Indian Cities still have a native name. You can check that out yourself! Prameetc (talk) 12:36, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
@Prameetc: That does not automatically imply that you have to re-add it in articles where it was removed. This is not how things work here in Wikipedia. Read other stuff exists. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:38, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
@User:LeoFrank: Then I will be happy to remove the native names from all Indian Cities. If that is a rule, then it should apply to all pages and not some. Thanks! A few examples are Ahmedabad, Patna, Kolkata, Raipur etc. I shall remove it now. Prameetc (talk) 12:41, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
@Prameetc: You are free to remove them from any India related article. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:42, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
@User:LeoFrank: So it applies to states also right? Prameetc (talk) 12:49, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @Prameetc: Yes. Any article related to India. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:59, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@User:LeoFrank: Ok Thanks! I have changed most states and their capitals, if any are left out, please do change it Prameetc (talk) 13:40, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Airport article title

Hello, I was wondering what you would think about this situation. The official name for the Gwalior airport is "Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia Air Terminal" per AAI. However, the article is titled Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia Airport – with a capital A in Airport, suggesting that is the proper name when it is not. Do you think the title should be changed to "Rajmata Vijaya Raje Scindia Air Terminal" or simply "Gwalior airport"? I hope I am not nitpicking! Regards — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 03:12, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@Sunnya343: Agree. Even I am inclined to naming the article Gwalior airport. — LeoFrank  Talk 10:56, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Removal of passenger movements from Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport

Hello. I know this message is long but please read it complete. I had placed that "threatening comment" in the infobox of the page with passenger movements which you removed along with figures of passenger movements. I had placed two comments (firstly the longer one and later the shorter one) only to prevent repeated IP vandalism to which that page was target for long time (this page was not protected at that time, I requested its protection yesterday). Even despite of the longer comment, some IP vandals shamelessly altered figures of passenger movements, aircraft movements and cargo tonnage as per their choice. Just see the page history of Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport. That's why I placed another short comment (before figures of passenger movements) which warned (not threatened) IP vandals and new users not to change the figures or else their editing privileges will be affected. Moreover, the earlier and longer comment (placed after passenger movements figures) was an explanation of how the statistics were calculated for CY 2016. That comment also urged users not to modify figures. I can see some logic in your removal of first comment but why did you remove figures of passenger movements and the explanatory comment ? Is there any logic behind it ? Let me tell you that both comments are needed to prevent IP vandalism in the article. This page has been protected only for 1 month. It will become available for editing to IP users after that. Those comments will serve as instructions for them and they don't have any "threatening" element.

You are a senior editor and that kind of thing of indiscriminately removing passenger movements figures is not expected from you. It's really unfortunate that disruptive edits by IP vandals are not even noticed quickly and constructive edits of users like us get reverted for no reason. Do you know how much time it took for me to calculate all the statistics for 2016 and putting them with elaborate sources ? Just see reference 1, 2 and 3 of article Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport. I have updated 2016 statistics for many other Indian airports all by myself. Please do care to see the content before removing it. I have placed back passenger movements figures and longer explanatory comment but not the warning comment. Thank you. Please let me know your views on this. Vibhss (talk) 18:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

@Vibhss: I have no patience to read such a long message and neither do I have the time trying to read a supposed justification. Your editing manner indicates a naive approach to editing here in general. No one is ever worried about how long you would've taken to calculate something unless it follows any guidelines. Adding from two different sources is not allowed here. Go through WP:SYNTH. — LeoFrank  Talk 10:58, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@LeoFrank:: That's certainly rude of you. By the way, the comment was for IP vandals who now and then, shamelessly changed figures of statistics. PLEASE SEE REFERENCE 1,2 AND 3 OF ARTICLE. But why are you removing passenger movement figures and let remain Aircraft Movements and Cargo tonnage figures? The latter two also have been calculated from adding by two sources. Statistics for many other Indian airports have been calculated in the same manner. (Since AAI upload its annual figures on fiscal year basis (April to March), this is the only way to calculate statistics for Calendar year (January to December). All major international airports around the world compile their statistics as per CY and same is reflected in Wikipedia. To maintain uniformity with oversees airports, statistics of Indian airports must be mentioned on calendar year basis.) See good articles Kempegowda International Airport and Rajiv Gandhi International Airport and other articles Indira Gandhi International Airport, Chennai International Airport, Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose International Airport and so on. Will you remove passenger movements figures of these articles also ? Well, I am not understanding the logic of different sources here. There is a single single source Besides the source provide details about calculation Are you bullying me or Wikipedia as a whole by your chauvinistic behaviour ? Vibhss (talk) 11:47, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, please see Kempegowda International Airport first. Statistics for that "good article" also have been calculated on same basis. See "Statistics" section of article for source. And please do see articles of other airports I mentioned above. Vibhss (talk) 12:06, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

February 2017

Information icon Hello, I'm Jackninja5. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, it's important to be mindful of the feelings of your fellow editors, who may be frustrated by certain types of interaction. While you probably didn't intend any offense, please do remember that Wikipedia strives to be an inclusive atmosphere. In light of that, it would be greatly appreciated if you could moderate yourself so as not to offend. This is not an acceptable edit summary for removing this. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 12:06, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@Jackninja5: WP:DTTR. I hope you know that. A note in your own words would have sufficed. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
I guess you are correct. I should probably have not used the template in this case. However, that is still no excuse. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 12:14, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
@Jackninja5: When did I even give an excuse? — LeoFrank  Talk 12:16, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess that was not the right thing to say. Sorry, ignore that part. The Ninja5 Empire (Talk) 12:18, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Mumbai Airport

Please try to get what I am saying. See ref no. 63 of article Kempegowda International Airport and compare it with reference 1 of article Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport I have used same methodology for calculation of statistics. Vibhss (talk) 12:19, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

@Vibhss: I hope you do understand WP:OSE. And as per consensus, AFAIK, yearly stats was what was agreed upon. Yearly stats are available only for a financial year. Changing stats for each and every month was not agreed upon. So that's what I am doing as this financial year is still running, I am adding the previous financial year's stats. — LeoFrank  Talk 12:29, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

A friendly word of caution

Mistakes in Visakhapatnam main article and economy of visakhapatnam article

In Visakhapatnam main article it is stated that economy of Visakhapatnam is 26 billion USD,but in economy of Visakhapatnam article it is stated that economy of Visakhapatnam is 48 billion USD.How can you write two different GDP incomes of the same city without any clarity of what is the actual GDP of Visakhapatnam?please rectify your mistakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sai krishna 98 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@Sai krishna 98: You need to correct yourself. Both in Economy of Visakhapatnam and Visakhapatnam articles, the cited sources say $26 billion. But some POV editor has changed it to $48 billion in Economy of Visakhapatnam. Kindly refer to the sources and correct data accordingly. Wordlistmania seems to be an unreliable source — LeoFrank  Talk 16:29, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Mistake in Visakhapatnam article

You are telling that cited sources say that it is 26 billion USD.I agree with you.But one cited source is saying it is 26 billion USD ,but the another cited source("The top 15 cities in India" by worldlist mania.com ) is saying it is 48 billion USD.Which article is correct in these both as Wikipedia gives two articles as sources.It is telling Visakhapatnam has 26 billion USD ,then how can it be in the 8th largest city as Surat has 40 billion USD.please reply — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sai krishna 98 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Madurai Airport Destinations

You removed few destinations in Madurai Airport page citing no reference. I am surprised to know you being not aware of aviation. Not all new destinations are announced in the media. If you check indigo website, you can find Madurai to Pune flight via Chennai (with same flight number). This hasn't come in any media. But it is available for booking. Same with Jet Airways non-stop Mumbai flight. --Amdmustafa (talk) 06:53, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

@Amdmustafa: It is the burden of the editor who adds these destinations to add a source, be it the schedules. If it is available only in the booking engine, you cannot expect everyone to keep trying to book and then verify the authenticity. Wikipedia can wait, there's no hurry. All I did was WP:BRD. — LeoFrank  Talk 07:35, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
It is also the burden of the deleting person to verify whether the thing I delete is wrong or correct. If you can't wait or can't check, do edit. Do your own jobs. --Amdmustafa (talk) 09:01, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Also note that there is no source for any destinations mentioned there. So kindly delete all those things and be happy. --Amdmustafa (talk) 09:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
@Amdmustafa: You better learn to mind your damn language. You are no one to tell me not to edit any page. And you better learn how things work here. There have been numerous discussions on WT:AIRPORT regarding new destinations. The decision was to simply delete any information if no reference is provided. After all, it needs a verifiable source. So no source, no addition. — LeoFrank  Talk 09:06, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Madurai Airport Destinations- 2

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Regarding your previous discussion with Amdmustafa (talk · contribs), I want to tell you that [[Jet Airways] has indeed started operating Madurai to Mumbai non-stop flight from 26th March. This flight is actually a direct flight from Madurai to Delhi with layover at Mumbai, catering to passengers from both Madurai and Mumbai. I don't think we need a source for flights which have already commenced operations but if you need, here it is. As I said, this flight has already begun operations by the date I am writing this message to you. I really don't know about the second "disputed" flight though (IndiGo flight from Madurai to Hyderabad). Thank you. Vibhss (talk) 17:54, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

LeoFrank (talk · contribs): I hope you can understand now instead of involving in edit war. I hope you justify the stars you have displayed in your profile page --Amdmustafa (talk) 12:19, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
@Amdmustafa: I am not here to listen to you bickering about things. If you had the least courtesy to provide a reference, it would've saved you time in complaining like a kiddo. — LeoFrank  Talk 16:42, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
@LeoFrank: At the end of the day, what I edited was right and you were wrong. So I am a better contributor than you in this regard. If that is called bickering, what should I call yours? :D :D. Put your kiddy ego aside and do constructive edits. If not, the least you can do is to let others contribute. Get a break and have a good day--Amdmustafa (talk) 20:18, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
@Amdmustafa: For kiddos like you, Wikipedia is not a place to compete. Any damn content added needs verification from reliable sources where you failed miserably. So, save your time from sitting and crying like a baby behind your momma due to your horrible failure in adhering to one of the five pillars. So despite that, you were wrong. I can't help but laugh at your immaturity. Archiving this nonsense as I have better things to do that argue with someone who understands nothing! — LeoFrank  Talk 15:20, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
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Air Costa

Hi. I could have responded to your message on my talk page but I thought otherwise. I checked Google Flights which was showing Air Costa flights also among non-stop flights for many pairs of destinations I checked. May be (or may not be) it was silly on my part to drop at conclusion just after checking on Google Flights. Can you please throw light on this ? Vibhss (talk) 16:59, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

@Vibhss: All of the aircraft that LB has leased have been returned to the lessor due to payment dues from the airline. The airline basically has no aircraft to commence operations. It would need to clear its dues with the lessor and then get back one or more aircraft after which it would be able to commence operations.
Google on the other hand pulls out flight data from other sources which may not have been updated (which usually happens most of the time), the reason which you would've seen Air Costa still on the list. As of now from the current situation, LB is nowhere closer to resuming its operations. — LeoFrank  Talk 15:32, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@LeoFrank: OK. Thanks for clearing out my misconception. Vibhss (talk) 16:19, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Airport issues

Hi there. I've noticed that you have been a party to several conflicts involving articles about south Indian airports. It is true that the folks you are warring with are largely introducing unsourced content. However, this is not a reason to edit-war with them. Revert them once, and if the behavior persists, ask for page protection, or a block. Second, under no circumstances should you be using the remarkably inappropriate tone you have adopted further up on this page. If folks are trolling you, report them, or ignore them. Don't get into a slanging match. Finally, the fact is that much of these disputes center on lists that are unsourced in the first place; and so any demands for sources ring a little hollow. If you are concerned about the sourcing in those lists, you should fix them, or remove them. Don't simply let them sit there, and revert entries that are really no worse, a priori, than the material in the article to begin with. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 05:15, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: Thank you for your advice. I totally agree I was wrong in dealing these issues. There are several issues with Indian airport articles and we have a swarm of users adding unsourced or even dubious content. I will keep in mind on how deal with these situations. I know that no such explanation will justify the behaviour, but I will keep calm. Thanks, — LeoFrank  Talk 05:23, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Good. Thanks for taking a constructive attitude. Vanamonde (talk) 05:31, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Correct information

The information which i post on CSIA and DEL airport about Indigo Was a correct Information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vnk414 (talk • contribs) 08:16, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

@Vnk414: Wikipedia needs citation of realiable and verifiable sources. Unless this can be provided, all information added is deemed wrong and is bound to be removed. — LeoFrank  Talk 14:23, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Regarding comments on Mumbai Airport

Hi LeoFrank. I actually need your help. This message can be a bit long but I kindly request you to read it full. I had inserted those explanatory comments in article Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport against selected direct flight destinations of Air India. Well I was prompted to do that only because many IPs and even new users were removing those (direct flight) destinations again and again not knowing the difference between Direct flight, Non-stop flight and Connecting flight. Since many editors use Google Flights to verify the flight destinations in Wikipedia and Google Flights mixes up Direct flights among many Connecting flights, it's obvious what those editors will do who don't know the difference. You can witness same type of vandalism in Madurai Airport. An IP even inserted a comment urging users to not include direct flight destinations as according to his POV, only non-stop flights are direct flights. How can we deal with such users ? I had to restore the removed destinations with "explanatory comment". You yourself reverted an editor who removed Newark from Ahmedabad Airport. Similarly, a user removed Chicago (served by direct flight via Delhi) from destination list of Hyderabad Airport. I had to restore it with comment. I think only explanatory comments can guide such "immature" editors.

Besides, while removing the notes/ comments from article of Mumbai Airport, you mistakenly removed even names of destinations like Newark (non-stop flight), Osaka and Shanghai (both served by direct flights). Check here. I restored the names but not comments. But I think that such comments are needed since "Airlines and Destinations" section is often very long and any irrelevant removal/ addition doesn't come into notice of other editors easily. Another user is pushing his imaginative POV by removing direct flight destinations of Air India from articles O'Hare Airport, JFK Airport and Newark Airport and citing a source he himself misinterprets. Since the message is getting very long, I will explain that to you in detail in next message after your response. For now, I have reverted edits of that user. Since you frequently edit aviation related articles, can you please keep track of these three articles also ? It's a request. If you can't, please suggest some wiki editor's name from whom I can seek help. Also, please explain your viewpoint regarding comments/ notes in your response. Regards. Vibhss (talk) 14:56, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

@Vibhss: Not each and every destination needs a clarification by adding a hidden note. Hidden notes are usually used for some information that is usually dubious and needs clarity. If there is vandalism, revert the same, request for page protection if the problem persists. Repeated vandalism will lead to a long term protection of the page. I know there are umpteen issues with articles of Indian airports and airlines. The only way to deal with it, is to revert and report. The unusually long comments is in no way going to stop any of these users from vandalizing the pages. And please do not bold sentences to emphasize. Italicize instead. — LeoFrank  Talk 14:30, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Alliance Air (India)

Hi. I was reviewing your request at WP:RFPP and after doing some digging came up with this link which states that Alliance Air (India) has a fleet of 8 ATR-72s. I am not sure which is correct as this link only says they have 5 but wanted to let you know. Best, Mifter (talk) 18:05, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mifter: Oops, my bad. I never realized there's another link. I'll discuss this on the project page to decide which one is correct. Thanks for pointing out. — LeoFrank  Talk 18:29, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

A question

Will page protection (semi-protection) prevent auto-confirmed yet "immature" editors from vandalising articles ? It is easy to become auto-confirmed just after 3-4 days and 10 edits and edit protected pages. If comments can hint them about the concept of different kinds of flights, what is the harm in keeping comments ? While the comments were there, I never witnessed any disruption with concerned destinations of concerned airport articles. Last month, I requested semi-protection of page Mumbai Airport and it got semi-protection for 1 month period. But mostly, requests for page protection are rejected unless there is "enough disruptive activity" to justify protection and also vandalism must not be limited to a single user. What say ? Vibhss (talk) 18:14, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

@Vibhss: Semi protection will only prevent unregistered users (IPs) and non-confirmed users. Auto confirmed users will be able to edit. If you see an auto confirmed user doing the same, a thumb rule as always is to assume good faith and give a level 1 warning. They repeat, then give a level 2, then level 3 and then level 4. Even after a level 4 warning, if they continue, you can report them to WP:AIV. That's how it works here. In addition to that, I suggest you not to use derogatory words against a user. Wikipedia does not welcome personal attacks. As stated, comment only on the content, not the user no matter what the situation is. — LeoFrank  Talk 18:34, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
@Vibhss: BTW, you don't have to do this as this user is a sock of Itskumudhk (talk · contribs). There is an open SPI right now for the current sock. One request, please use the same thread to continue discussions instead of creating new sections. — LeoFrank  Talk 18:40, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
@LeoFrank:: Thanks for your suggestions and also for requesting protection of article Mumbai Airport. By the way, which derogatory word I used ? Are you referring to word "immature" ? Till now, I have just posted an explanatory message on talk page of that user who was repeatedly removing Madurai from destinations. Yes, I came to know later that he is a sockpuppet. But I didn't say anything derogatory in my message. Vibhss (talk) 18:47, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
@Vibhss: Yes, please do not use words against editors no matter how right you are. I wouldn't want to see good editors get blocked just for the reason of personal attacks (it has happened). So, as the guideline states, comment only on the content. — LeoFrank  Talk 18:51, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Removing the correct information added by users

If you doesn't read any news then kepp quite. Don't give a message saying blocking me the information I added in pune Airport was fully correct.I will put that information again. Enter the flightradar page it has also added Kolhapur airport which will be a destination of air deccan.Under the UDAN scheme [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vnk414 (talk • contribs) 09:59, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

@Vnk414: It is the burden of the editor who adds information to cite them. Nobody is going to sit and do your work. Citations are important, if none is provided, it will be deleted. If you don't bother to follow this, you will likely be blocked, sufficient warnings have been given to you already. And kindly learn on how to converse with other users. — LeoFrank  Talk 15:30, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Regarding the link on Air Deccan, we need a firm date to add that. We are not a crystal ball to keep predicting the future based on one article. — LeoFrank  Talk 15:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Leo frank just look into the matter

Hello, This is Upanshu. As per your concern about Lal Bahadur Shastri International Airport wiki page; I hereby abide about vandalism of the page. I added the information about flights to Kanpur as per Udaan Yojana schemes provided by Government Of India. Flights between Kanpur and Varanasi will start this coming September.Air Odisha has been awarded for this route.You can check out the list at Udaan Yojana scheme website. And Iam also the regular user of wiki pages. And I am providing the most accurate data available through the genuine sources. You must also look into the matter. Please keep the page upto date. LeoFrank

Thank You Upanshu upanshu (talk) 07:29, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Help at Discussion

Hi. Can you please join this discussion ? I have pointed out all facts to the initiator of this discussion but I need more editors' viewpoints in the discussion and establish a sort of consensus. The initiator of this discussion is somewhat trying to impose his imaginative POV. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Vibhss (talk) 17:11, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

I wasn't unsourced

The content I had edited in IndiGo was sourced and not unsourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashutosh2978 (talk • contribs) 03:22, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

@Ashutosh2978: All of your edits are unsourced. Unless you provide a valid and reliable source, it is bound to be removed by editors watching the page. Remember, it the responsibility of the editor adding content to provide a source. — LeoFrank  Talk 08:39, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Removal of A/D table

Hello, regarding this edit, I did it because of MOS:TABLES, which states, "Prose is preferred in articles as prose allows the presentation of detail and clarification of context, in a way that a table may not." So I don't know how this is ignoring the rules, and I don't see the harm caused.

A similar situation happened here, and an admin agreed with me.

Also, please look at each edit that you intend to rollback with Twinkle, as two of my edits simply replaced the name "Air India Regional" with "Alliance Air" in other parts of the article. Anyways I have reapplied these edits. Regards — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 21:17, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

@Sunnya343: I'd rather disagree here. I feel it's better to keep all articles on par. I don't see any harm being done when using tables for one-entry destinations or fleet.
Also, as said in my revert on Alliance Air, you cannot go by what the airline defines. See Airline hub. Hubs/bases/focus cities are airports, can never be cities. LCCs have bases not hubs. So please do not mask hubs/bases to city names. — LeoFrank  Talk 06:34, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
And also to add, just using night parking facility does not automatically imply the airport being used as a hub/base. Airlines do this when they have a late night flight arriving at an airport and use the same aircraft for the next day's early morning departure. — LeoFrank  Talk 06:38, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
My apologies for the late response. I understand your point on consistency. However this might be another case of WP:AIRPORT's bypassing certain Wiki policies, as we saw with the RfCs on the A/D tables and terminal columns.
The definition of hubs/focus cities/bases can be vague. For example, IndiGo is an LCC so you would say it has bases; however, they allow connections through some airports. Thus, I thought it was best to indicate how the airline refers to its destinations. Wouldn't your idea violate WP:OR?
About masking the hub/bases to city names, I thought it would be obvious that they refer to the airport - similar to the A/D tables. It makes the infoboxes less bulky; see Ryanair and Southwest Airlines as examples.
I actually was not the one to add Vizag as a base, but I see your point. — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 14:52, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Ch-aviation

I thought I'd create a new section for this. You have stated that ch-aviation is not a reliable source, for example here. Why do you find them unreliable? I had written about this on my talk page here. Also take a look at the Wiki article for ch-aviation. — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 14:56, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

@Sunnya343: ch-aviation is more of an aviation blog AFAIK. I also remember there was a discussion at WT:AVIATION regarding routesonline.com and it was decided to be deemed reliable. I haven't come across any such conclusion for ch-aviation or if I am missing something, please let me know. — LeoFrank  Talk 07:40, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
I looked through this discussion. However, ch-aviation does not seem to be a blog at all; it is not advertised that way, rather as a news site. It is primarily a subscription consulting service for airlines that includes news content as part of the package; many articles require the subscription to view, like this one. Overall, ch-aviation definitely appears to be a reliable, legitimate source. They have interviewed CEOs of various airlines, like Finnair and Libyan Wings (the "blog" in which these interviews are published is separate from www.ch-aviation.com; even then, WP:NEWSBLOG would apply). You can scroll through their homepage to see more of what they offer. — Sunnya343✈ (háblame • my work) 03:07, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Leofrank

You could see the Air India timetable, friend. It doesn't fly to Bengaluru from Male. Buddhi93 (talk) 18:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Biju Patnaik Airport

Please check before editing go air is going to fly to ahemdabad via mumbai from may 1.if indore and lucknow are in list thn there is nothing wrong in my edit. Pink 86 (talk) 17:19, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

@Pink 86: AMD is not a direct flight. It requires a change of aircraft at BOM. LKO is a direct flight with a stopover at CCU. — LeoFrank  Talk 17:24, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Indic scripts under the titles are a very common occurrence in pages relating to India.

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Hello, I need a clarification...... "No Indic script" message was left.However, it is my conviction reading wikipedia India, that most pages have Indic name below them. 1.Why is Indic script under native name not allowed ? 2.My edit on Mudumalai made 3 line Indic ed it to 1 line for simplicity.But it was again reverted back to 3 line Indic name.Please explain me why ?

I would prefer shorter explanations than reading longer descriptions available of Wiki.Since , it did not answer some of my questions.Hope you will answer it soon . Thank you from a learner Happy sage (talk) 03:22, 18 April 2017 (UTC)



Even featured wikipedia pages have Indic scripts in it . eg: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnataka" good article with indic script : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happy sage (talk • contribs) 05:26, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Happy sage: Another article having something cannot be cited for keeping something, please see WP:OSE. For indic scripts, there is an RfC which I have already cited as the reason in the edit summary. Read WP:INDICSCRIPT. — LeoFrank  Talk 15:55, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


@LeoFrank You did not still explain your revert on Mudumalai though. Care to explain Happy sage (talk) 03:51, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

@Happy sage: I have, very clearly done that in my message above. I owe no further explanation. We're done here. — LeoFrank  Talk 15:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
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Please check on go air flight schedule from may 1 it flys with a 35mins layover at mumbai its the same flight.i go through every details before editing so please check. Pink 86 (talk) 02:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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