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Hernan

Hi Jay, Ill have a proper dig through Hernan over the next few days, but a couple of things that I spotted when I had a quick look over the article just now.

1) The article needs to be added to categories such as Hurricanes in Baja California, Colima, Jalisco etc.

2) As far as I know there is no need to specify the actual website addresses ie www.nhc.noaa.gov in the references.

3) You have specified that the NHC is in Miami, Florida which while true, I strongly feel that its better to list it as the United States National Hurricane Center rather than the Miami, Florida National Hurricane Center.

4) You only cite 2 tropical weather outlooks and no tropical weather discussions, which makes me wonder if you have missed anything. I would also prefer these to be cited up with the date and time of issuance since they are released 4 times a day and its hard to tell which TWO you are talking about.

5) You should have a dig through of the SMN and see if their advisories/tropcial cyclone report contains any useful information.

6) I would also highly suggest that you have a look at Hurricane Nora (1997) as it was rewritten by me earlier this year and might point you in the direction of any further information/ideas on how to build the article up.

7) Make sure the convert templates are correct, a quick look through the article history shows that Gaius Cornelius added the convert template in to the article, but did not force the convert templates to round to the nearest 5 or apply the proper significant figures where appropiate.

Thats it for now, when I get chance during the week ill have a proper look over the article.Jason Rees (talk) 21:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

- Thank you for the help Jason.

1) Updated

2) Deleted websites where already specified by URL

3) Switched

4) I double checked the TWOs from August 20-26, 2020 and found that the information contained from these times is covered by Hernan's TCR. I will review them more thoroughly again soon to see if I could add any information from them that the TCR doesn't contain.

5) I looked through SMN archives pertaining to Hernan and found most of the information there (warnings for "intense punctual rains", the fatality in Colima) are covered already in the article.

6) I like the way you divided information in Nora's article to make the article flow more seamlessly and how extensive in coverage the Met History is. I copyedited Hernan and will look to Nora again soon for further ideas on how to make Hernan's article more comprehensive and digestible.

7) I took care of the rounding on the templates with regard to wind speed and made sure abbreviations were on for all of them, as well as made every mention of rainfall, wind speed and barometric pressure have a uniform conversion template.

Whenever you look through the article again let me know and I'll improve it to the best of my abilities. Sorry for the late response. JayTee🕊️ 00:07, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

No worries about the late response, it's been a manic week on my part so I haven't had much time to dig through Hernan or do any Wiking. Anyway, I am pleased that you feel Nora's article will be an inspiration for you and that you have taken my suggestions on board. Looking over Hernans MH and comparing it to the TCR, I would strongly urge you to look again at the way you open the MH, as I am personally not a fan of mentioning anything the warning centres did to a system before TC genesis occurs and Hernan just proves my point. In Hernan's case, I would suggest that you start it off by talking about the three tropical disturbances in the monsoon trough but ill come back to you about that when I have had some sleep.Jason Rees (talk) 00:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I agree with regard to the mentioning of warning centers' treatment of the system before genesis- I created the article before Hernan's TCR was released and relied on TWOs for the Met History at the time and never quite got around to replacing them. I'll work on that soon. And take your time with digging through Hernan, even if there are lots of issues we uncover I'd rather be thorough than quick. And of course we all have lives outside Wikipedia to attend to. JayTee🕊️ 13:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

@Jason Rees I re-wrote the Met History to be more in conjunction with the TCR and less reliant on operationally error-prone TWOs from 2020. JayTee🕊️ 15:56, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

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Re: Hernan

Thanks for reaching out, and welcome back to the chaos and endless nitpicking that is Wikipedia :P I hope you've been doing well. So there isn't the strongest A-class review these days, and tbh there never has been. Usually, editors will seek out a fresh set of eyes after a GA review for some sort of peer review before an eventual FAC. That said, I'd like your thoughts on my last review. There was no damage total, and nothing on the missing people. Were they ever declared dead? Those small details are what makes an article feel like it really stands out, that it really is well-researched. Considering other Mexican storms have damage totals, I'm sure one exists for this storm. Also, at the moment there is only a met history and an impact section. That seems incomplete as an article structure. I suggest splitting off the preparations for all actions taken due to the threat of the storm. Three sections is a more like a standard featured article. There are some exceptions, yes, but for a landfalling storm, a separate preps section is useful.

So those are my thoughts on Hernan. Whatcha think? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:33, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Thank you for the well wishes. I will search more thoroughly for a damage total, as I also think there should be one somewhere. Additionally, I'm at the point where I think the missing person can be removed from the article entirely, as they were only mentioned by a couple news sources, their name was never provided and I doubt we'll be able to find out more about them. I've wanted to split off a separate Preparations section for a while and I'll see how neatly I can do it. In addition to those concerns, I want to comb through the sources and make sure they all have the same template and remain accessible.

With all these taken care of, I would feel comfortable nominating Hernan to be a FAC. JayTee⛈️ 19:26, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I wouldn't remove the mention of the missing person, as it's pretty well-verified. A tip for finding it might be limiting your newspaper searches to after August 29th. Since the storm dissipated on the 28th, I don't think a missing person would be found for at least a few days.

BTW, I came across this government source which might have some good impact info. This source talks about a state of emergency. This source has a damage total for Guerrero - 594 million pesos (US$26.7 million). And in case you're wondering how to convert currencies - this site has the conversion from MX$ to USD in the year 2020.

Good luck! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:23, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

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"X was the Yth Zist on record"-type stuff

In regards to this, be careful (and there are probably other instances of this throughout wiki) with saying "X year was the Yth Zist year on record". If you have a source for it, that's fine but it's WP:OR to infer it from other wiki articles/templates. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 22:23, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

@Yellow Evan Thanks for the heads-up. I was under the mistaken impression the article already had a source that supported that claim. JayTee⛈️ 03:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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Many thanks! JayTee⛈️ 00:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks a bunch! I’ve had a busy past few days but will address the citation issue as soon as I have the time. JayTee⛈️ 17:53, 12 November 2023 (UTC)