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Speedy deletion nomination of Brave Entertainment

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A tag has been placed on Brave Entertainment requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Thanks

Oh, I hope I am signing at the right place... This is my first time and I hope you forgive me if this is totally wrong. I would like to say thank you very much! !Herroharu¡ 18:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Jae ₩on (Deposit) 18:59, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Members' Positions

Semi-long conversation with Dubulge

The main reason I created a summary of each member was because of positions and ethnicity, for ChoColat that is. I can't do that for Miss A though. It's not such a big problem, but it does bother me that most people can't at least add a source to the edit, or even check the source. I honestly don't know who is what in Miss A, they don't even have official positions. They don't even have official profiles on JYP Entertainment's website, they aren't listed as one of their artists, so I rather just give up on editing since I myself can't come up with reliable answers. However, I'm thankful, because you taught me about the comments section, which I had before but forgot how to use. They still change in every group I think, even SHINee where their positions are set in stone. Dubulge (talk) 16:25, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, it kind of reminds me of this recent X-Factor winner, they are a girl group and all of them are good singers, so they are basically all lead singers, and that's basically what Miss A is like, they are all (lead) vocalists up to a certain point. It's sad to think that from Wonder Girls' vocal abilities, JYP created a group without much vocal identity. I usually learn by looking at history and changes people made so I can learn how to make my own, rather than reading FAQ. My knowledge now is just enough so I can keep things clean the way I want them to be, I don't have any other desires for editing. Lastly, thank you a lot for all your help too, you are too kind! (Dubulge (talk) 17:59, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

Well, the wonder girls are easier. 2 main vocals, 2 vocalists, 1 rapper. Either way, same goes for me, I do edit some things here and there, but I still maintain my focus on promoting ChoColat through wikipedia, since other groups already have reliable truthful fans. Dubulge (talk) 19:13, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Right, I don't know what this means, what is it that you just did? I know I should say "thank you hyung", but I don't know what you just did. It's pretty though, so thank you!~ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Talk) 20:00, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

Oh no, I'm fine, I like the color a lot. I'm glad you did, it does seem to limit me as a Chocolat only contributor, but at the same time, I like it and I can still change other articles but still keep this identity. ^ ^ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 20:18, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

D'aww, cute and funny. What can you NOT do? Thank you so much for everything!~ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 20:51, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

Don't worry, I can fill in that requirement. lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 21:33, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

What kind of edits were you making to what kind of articles? lol I couldn't figure that out. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 21:57, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

I can't figure out if we are overly bored, overly dedicated/passionate or overly organized. To be honest, that sounds a lot like SM Town albums, I could edit them, but I'm too lazy and if I start, I won't stop lol. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 22:10, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

Since you started, might as well finish it, but that might take a long time. Poor you!~ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 22:17, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

You could write the article yourself, you know? And when it's posted, if you write it or not, do mention our ChoColat in there!~ ^ ^ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 22:30, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

Nah, you might as well leave it to them. You have too much work to do already. I mean, I wouldn't do it, because I don't like the movie very much, except for his abs and Chocolat's appearance lol. So it's up to Jaywalkers or you. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 22:36, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

That's pretty subject since you are quite neat, I don't see how you wouldn't make it perfect enough. Then again, we are only interested in editing the Brave Girls and Chocolat Cameous, and Jaebum abs, so I guess the rest is their duty. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 22:40, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

I'm really sorry for you. I have like 4 things in my watchlist if I remember correctly, and it's because I created 3 of them. I mean, do pictures even count? If not, then 2 things. lol You should rest a bit, I was going to say sleep, but it's not time for you to sleep where you are lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 22:50, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

Then maybe I have 5, but still, I'm a lot less stressed than you poor boy, you should take a lil' break. lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 23:12, 17 December 2011 (UTC))

Check if any articles need fixing? Isn't that what you were doing just now? lol poor you, you should study lol I am not half as much of a contributor as you are Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 00:02, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

LOL I have no words but that's really cute. I don't watch dramas cuz they bore me, unless my mom makes me watch with her. I play call of duty instead lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 00:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

wow, so you are like a VIP member for them to send u an e-mail directly? lol I'm just a digimon world and a call of duty player, no more, no less lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 00:47, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

LOL I see, well, you don't know what you are missing. Either way, I'm not part of any mailing lists, I am a seeker! Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 00:55, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Must be my RPG side, cuz that's the most fun stuff. I was gonna play ragnarok back in the day if my parents had paid for it lol too bad I couldn't, that was da bomb. But yeah, I seek stuff rather than being on lists lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 01:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

See? we are like the same person lol jk, but I noticed your Brave Brothers article has been deleted. How come? Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 01:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Brave Brothers

Long conversation with Dubulge

Oh I see! I thought it was. I also didn't understand that your other article was just a draft. Sadly, I never heard of that group, which sucks. But I bet you never heard of Devil & Angel or Isak N Jiyeon either so lol It was to be deleted though, wasn't it? To be honest, it said something about importance when I created the article for Chocolat's new album and I was scared lol. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 01:18, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Yeah, I don't know either groups lol. I don't usually move articles unless I'm correcting mistakes like calling a group a band, I can't accept that. Mine should have enough references so I guess I'll be fine for now. hihi Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 01:26, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Still, they ain't a band either. They are a hip-hop group, cuz certainly Drunken Tiger is a hip-hop group, but not a boyband. A boyband needs to be pretty lol a.k.a. pretty and pop, not underground and hip-hop. I guess they are still kinda seen as an idol group either way, that's why someone would do that. It's like how terms are just used in the wrong manner so often that they become correct, which is a sad thing. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 01:34, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

LOL Noobs are annoying people. They are wrong, but they insist that if they make everyone believe they are right, they will become right then, which is how politicians work lol. They are still a group and not a band, but poor boys who ain't a boyband. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 01:47, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Really? What do you see as a boyband then? I don't know how I'd feel...lol depends what you see as a boyband Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 01:58, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Oh no, that is indeed a nightmare....But what do you consider male idol groups to be then? Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

But 2NISE isn't an idol group. I would say yes, they are more like Boyz 2 Men than boybands. I was talking about TVXQ, SHINee and MBLAQ. I mean, we have vocal groups like 4Men and Brown Eyed Soul, and Idol Male Groups like TVXQ and B2ST, but they ain't boybands....I think Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:12, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

I'm sorry, I don't know what you are telling me anymore. Are you saying those groups are boybands or vocal groups? Or are they just male groups? I thought their name was One Day, not 2 o'clock...I remember back when they debuted... good ol' days. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:18, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Are you someone I know on allkpop? People never think I'm a troll cuz I'm very smart lol But oftentimes some people are seen as that. I'm thinking I may know who you are on allkpop, what's your username there? And what did you mean by "you too?" that I get thumbed down? Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:43, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Don't question JYP's logic lol He thinks it's One Day. So 2PM and 2AM are boybands for you? So are the other ones? Well, then being a boyband isn't so bad. I mean, being a crappy boyband is, but a good one isn't bad. Western ones are never as good as asian ones for some reason, fangirls are the same everywhere though. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:26, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Yeah, 6theory for you. I get thumbed down for saying the truth. About boy groups, girl groups, solo singers, they don't like the truth. Gay fanboys also are terrible, they are even more vicious about girlgroups, since they wanna be girls so they won't bare hearing shit about the girls. Famdom requires survival skill. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:30, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Indeed, you are a ninja. Never seen that before, at all. I thought you were this one guy who was a Chocolat fan but badmouths super junior like there's no tomorrow. He's also korean-american and unable to speak korean fluently, that's why I associated the both of you. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Yeah, they ruin my dreams too, but not the way you would think...really. It's okay to be jealous of them honestly and hate them for them being around the girls you like, but to say they have no musical talent, like all of them, it's purely ignorant and biased. That's what that guy said, that's when I lost respect for him. I don't like the said member you mentioned too much btw. lol He is fugly, he is a good person, but I'm never too sure how trustworthy he is as a "man", that is by being sexist or something. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 03:00, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

I don't know how we got to SNSD from Suju, but I agree. SNSD is 5 lead vocalists, and 4...something girls. I mean, Sooyoung and Yuri ain't that bad, but they are outshined close to the other 5, it's hard to give them any credibility. Hyoyeon is a dancer and Yoona is a pretty girl lol. I have a problem when people are praised for something they ain't good at a.k.a. overrated, like UEE, I'm not jealous of her, I just don't think she is pretty or interesting. Gahee is a lot better! As for suju, too many members, it's hard to like all of them or for all to be good looking. I mean, Donghae is a god, so Siwon's popularity annoys me too lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 03:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

It's apparently cuz western kids can't count to more than 5, and asian kids can count more lol. I like 7 membered groups, but 5 feels a lot closer. The thing is having more members makes it easier for there to be a member a girl will like. 5 options? give her 13 and there WILL be ONE at least who she'll like. Or for a guy to like, either or. I like Donghae!~ See? It works lol Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 03:22, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

It's business and they know how to do it lol I don't know what you mean about them being the girls of our generation and finding out the truth...what's the truth? If it's about plastic surgery, only 3 of them had surgery done...wait....yeah, 3 had clearly. P.S. I'mma sleep soon btw Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 03:37, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Nah, lol. I thought it meant the Girls' Generation, tbh, I don't think I expect anything from the name lol. They are talented in different areas, some are very good singers, some are very good dancers, some are very pretty, acting, nyah lol They just ain't all everything. Oh, I wasn't sure, I'm never sure if Sooyoung fixed her eyes bcuz they weren't even or if it was just a picture thing, and Sunny is hard to tell lol If she did, it didn't work too well, no offense lol either way, good night to you....hyung? I'm guessing I hope you r not younger than me, I will feel old. ~ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 03:46, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

YES, I'M YOUNGER! 5 YEARS BABY! 잘 자세용 형!~ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 03:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC))

Replaceable fair use File:Chocolat group with all members.jpg, help?

I'm sorry to bother you hyung, but I have gotten this message and I have no idea what a equivalent free content file would be more adequate to illustrate members of a group or anything that could replace this picture.

Basically this is the file, File:Chocolat group with all members.jpg and I just don't understand if I should try and do something about it or just let it be deleted. Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC))

Thanks a bunch. I will manage it tomorrow when I wake up and see what I'll do about it, get a free license picture to illustrate the article. I don't know yet what kind of picture would fall under that category, but as soon as I figure that out, I'll have it changed. Thanks a lot again!~~ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 02:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC))

Photos of groups

Photos of bands or musical groups that haven't broken up have to be free use only. This is similar to the rule about free use photos only for people who are living. The musical groups or bands that are no longer together can have fair use/non-free photos with proper rationales just as fair use/non-free photos are allowed for deceased persons with a proper rationale. We hope (talk) 02:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

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Will do sir!~ Chocolat ≈ Dubulge (Chat Me Up) 20:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

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Korean article

Hi Jay2kx, I saw your name at the Korean wikiproject and had a question. I've been working on Prosperity theology (currently a featured article candidate) and someone pointed out this source to me. Is there a way that you could tell me what his basic conclusion is? I think he argues that the effects of the war have caused people to embrace the movement (having had lots of material lack before they are drawn to something that promises no lack). Is there someone else that you recommend I ask? Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 21:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

LUV girl group

Hello, Jay2kx! In response to the question regarding the location of the group's picture, the only known site (that I know of, anyway) is here: http://blog.naver.com/35hyunju?Redirect=Log&logNo=100126684412 User:stipidstid (Deposit) 14:51, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Hancinema

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Kim Ikhun - Another of those Joseon Dynasty stubs

There's another of those stubs - new editor creates complicated article with a lot of markup, with garbled English, linked dates, etc. There must be a model or a template out there which they are all using. As discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Korea#Mass-produced_biographical_stubs.3F, where you said you'd have a look at them. PamD 14:43, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

And there are more - listing them on the Project page as I find them while stub-sorting. PamD 20:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

After the latest, Yi Jae-hyun (not Joseon dynasty, but still Korean historical biography), I've taken it to ANI. PamD 14:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

And Uhwudong, another rubbishy stub with the same characteristics, again from a new editor. PamD 19:08, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

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Infobox Korean Film

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There is currently a vote on that page as well as a ton more replies that appeared after your posting. I would appreciate it if you could revisit the page, look at the options, and vote. Thanks ₪RicknAsia₪ 01:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Infobox Debate...again

Lugnuts is trying to delete the template again. If you could add your thoughts it would be appreciated. Thanks. ₪RicknAsia₪ 18:12, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Asian film Infoboxes Merging

As you participated in the discussion to keep/merge the various Asian film Infobox templates, I'd like you to look over and hopefully contribute to how they will be merged. Thank you for your input. ₪RicknAsia₪ 16:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

How to get help from the Korean Wikipedia

Jay2kx, you can post in English at the Korean Wikipedia embassy. A Korean speaker there can help you. Several users on the Korean Wikipedia speak English. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC) WhisperToMe (talk) 20:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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