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Hello, JDBurget, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as The Network for Better Futures, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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A tag has been placed on The Network for Better Futures requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Odie5533 (talk) 16:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Status and Advice[edit]

As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article, not for lack of indication of importance, but because it was almost entirely promotional, & would require rewriting from scratch, not just normal editing. (criterion G11). I urge you to rewrite it, and here's some suggestions on how to do it:

A Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases, and I think you've done this to some extent--a little too much of it is based on press releases.

It also needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or emphasise your noble goals., say what they do. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what they have accomplished, giving sources for it. Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable.

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective clients--that sort of content is considered promotional. Keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of press releases or web sites, which are usually more expansive. Please write in paragraphs, not outline format. Make sure the overall tone reads like an ourside observer, not an advocate.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity.

For further information see our FAQ about business, organizations, and articles like this and also WP:FIRST. I do not want to discourage you, but to urge you to write an good article that will stay in Wikipedia

If I can help you further, let me know on my user talk page. DGG ( talk ) 20:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have started the page User:JDBurget/The Network for Better Futures for you. When done, ask me on my talk page to have a look at it. DGG ( talk ) 23:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

update[edit]

I've moved the draft to mainspace, I did some editing, There's still more work needed, though: see the article talk page. DGG ( talk ) 05:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Noted and thank you. I'll work over the next couple days to get those changes made.

JDBurget (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)JDBurget[reply]