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{unblock| Yamla - did you see my additional information below? It appears in the response you just have my original message and not the additional information provided as requested. }

No need for multiple unblock requests! I just replaced the blanked unblock request I had denied, because you aren't allowed to remove those. And I fixed your unblock request so another admin will see it and investigate! Don't worry, another admin will likely be along shortly to review. --Yamla (talk) 16:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Goodbyz (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Haven't been on this site for about 6 years and just logged in. Appears a block from that long ago is still in effect. Seems like a good time to remove it.

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

  • the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
  • the block is no longer necessary because you
    1. understand what you have been blocked for,
    2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
    3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 15:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Goodbyz (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Haven't been on this site for about 6 years and just logged in. Appears a block from that long ago is still in effect. Seems like a good time to remove it. I don't recall the reason for the block, I tried to dig into the history a little. Again, many years ago, a colleague was editing a page and I think got into a disagreement with some admins and felt bullied. I think she was griping to me about it and I decided to stick up for her and that started a conflict which I felt was then a personal attack against me. I worked at a different company back then and the colleague was also signed up and I think I was accused of being her or maybe she was accused of being multiple people because of the company IP address being the same. Anyway, it was 6 years ago so I'm not entirely sure. Either way, I'm pretty sure it was she who was "edit warring" but again long ago, regardless, I'm an active user of Wikipedia and in particular with regard to genealogy related history and especially as it relates to my ancestors. Some of the records are either non-existent or incomplete and it would be good to have them updated. Clearly I don't feel the block is necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia because as a potential contributor, removing the block is beneficial to Wikipedia as my contributions although limited in scope will be useful. I've regularly contributed on Ancestry.com and helped many with the detailed family records I have going back to colonial days in the US and beyond. I'm also a contributor on 23andme but that's more related to genetics and relations to biological traits, diseases and disorders. I also looked over the Sarpino's Pizzeria page. I'm a franchisee so I know the locations. They are down to 49 instead of 50 locations and Minneapolis lost 1, KC area gained 1, Houston and Austin lost 1 each and there is a new one in Florida at Coral Springs. Also Shapiro and Chatkin were partners in Saprino's USA with Chatkin taking over day to day operations while Shapiro battled cancer. Shapiro died late in 2017 and Chatkin is the President of Sarpino's USA. Goodbyz (talk) 21:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accept reason:

After such a long time I certainly think it is reasonable to give you another chance. I hope you can avoid getting into the same kinds of problems that led to your block again. Welcome back. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:56, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Goodbyz (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Adding this to the bottom... inadvertently added it to the top before. A bit rusty at this stuff. ---Yamla - did you see my additional information below? It appears in the response you just have my original message and not the additional information provided as requested.

Decline reason:

Procedural close - the unblock template is not a reply button, and multiple requests will not speed up your appeal (or notify anyone) in any way. SQLQuery me! 23:33, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, thanks. I wasn't actually trying to make multiple requests to speed up the review and I inadvertently copied the unblock instead of just the symbols but I did think commenting was like a reply button in a way. I mean I thought the admin would get the response. Like I said, a bit rusty after 6 years. In fact, I guess you probably won't see this either. DOH! Thanks anyway though!


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.


@JamesBWatson: JamesBWatson, you are the blocking admin here. I declined the first unblock request but the subsequent request is significantly more convincing. I always mention WP:ROPE in cases like this, only here, I'm pretty sure there won't be a problem. Given that the block was six years ago, what do you think? --Yamla (talk) 22:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: I absolutely agree, so I am going to lift the block. Thanks for drawing this to my attention. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:56, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: Can I delete all the stuff on the talk page now? It's messing with my OCD on clutter. :) Also, do I need to say I'm a Sarpino's Franchisee on my User Page if I want to up date the Sarpino's Pizzeria page... or on the talk part of that page?
You are only obligated to keep declined unblock requests for currently active blocks. Restating, that means you are free to clear this page. WP:COI covers how to disclose a conflict of interest. You should place the notification on your user page. You are also best off to suggest edits, on the article's talk page, rather than editing the article directly. --Yamla (talk) 17:47, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


{Waiting to hear back, if you can take a look at my note on Sarpino's above and make changes that would be good. Since I'm not able to. You can go to gosarpinos.com and use find my location to verify the current locations. There isn't really a source for the internal hierarchy of Sarpino's USA but I have inside knowledge on Dmitry and David. They were a bit yin/yang before Dmitry got sick.

Also, I've been digging around more trying to remember why I was blocked. I first started contributing in 2009 when I was doing some brain development research and saw something I thought would be helpful to contribute. I don't think it ever made it anywhere. Then was on but not editing until 2012 when a colleague was having some problems and pretty upset with it. Part of the issue, I think, is that everything is set up here in a way that isn't very trusting. The autoblock for instance you can see that if someone with a shared IP address which is pretty common for large companies tries to create an account they are blocked if there was someone blocked at the same company. Given some of the names I see for users in the auto block feed, I understand there are a lot of disruptive people out there. When I logged in in 2012, however, I was trying to see why my colleague felt they were being bullied and pretty quickly felt I was attacked also because out of the gate I was accused of a lot of really weird terms (sockpuppet/meatpuppet) and being the same person, etc. I think within 24 hours of singing back in I was blocked with a block that was indefinite. The entire process seemed pretty defeating and if you read some of those old posts it was pretty clear I was a gnat and others were all powerful and even when I was asked to do XYZ to be unblocked and I did those things, I see 6 years later I'm still blocked. The reason listed is disruptive editing, however, when I go to that link and read the 6 types of disruptive editing, I don't see where I was doing that, maybe I was but I just don't recall it and can't see it in what is left of the logs. I also saw how to handle disruptive editors and it seems that the process has more steps than a indefinite block within 24 hours. There should be mediation, warnings, temporary blocks and then only if there is an account that is only for disruptive edits is it to be indefinitely blocked. As noted, I rarely make edits... 2009, 2012, attempted in 2018, so not an account for disruptive editing. I remember back then feeling pretty clear that no matter what there wasn't any getting through, however, when I logged back in now I didn't expect to see the block still active. Since it is, is there someone else I can talk to about getting this removed? Goodbyz (talk) 21:17, 1 February 2018 (UTC) }[reply]