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In this page please remove the line which tells that Sundhi or soundik belongs to scheduled caste In West Bengal . I guess sunri is getting confused with soundik/sundhi. Even the support attachments of West Bengal talks about the sunri caste not sundhi. Please make a change. 2405:201:1007:A158:C03A:A61B:A335:BFE1 (talk) 10:21, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Sir/Madam, please take your concerns here Talk:Sundhi. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 19:31, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

January 2022

Information icon Sir/Madam, I didn't added any external link to Jaiswal (surname). All were verified citation created to support the sentences which you are continuously reverting blindly by java codes. It would be better to took your time and verify all of it. the First citation was for Liquor selling business made from PDF report generated for Government of West Bengal. The Second Citiaion was made to Support Vaishya Status by India TV(a prominent Indian TV News Channel) and by The Econimics Times (The Subsidary of The Times of India) and the third citation was for Somvanshiya Kshatirya Staus by Dainik Bhaskar (World 4th Largest Selling Newspaper) and Navbharat times. There is also book reference of People of India: Delhi by K. S. Singh and Daughters of the earth by Smita Tewari Jassal a notable historian. It would by better if you read all these references to satisfy yourself so that you can stop vandalizing the page. Thanks. Swapnil1101 (talk) 21:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Sir/Madam, I have just reverted your poorly sourced edits. Don’t refer constructive edit as vandalism. Regarding the sources, per WP:RS, India TV, The Times of India, Dainik Bhaskar, Navbharat times and matrimonial sites(jeevansathi.com) are not considered reliable on this project. As explained by me earlier, you will have to provide scholarly sources for the history/caste-related details. Also you have directly added level 2 warning. Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, also read WP:NOTVAND, WP:RS & WP:V. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 08:41, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Sundhi / soundik

You are providing wrong info about this caste Please make sure you are updated . If you don’t have knowledge about this please stay away from this topic 2405:201:1007:A0B0:8E:3096:A0F7:478B (talk) 22:03, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Sir/Madam, What's your context here? The article is well sourced and ample WP:RS have been provided. Please read them, if the content is misrepresenting them in any way, discuss the matter at the article's talk page Talk:Sundhi and seek consensus. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 09:47, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey Pinsky I also think sundhi is misinterpreted with sunri They both are totally different could you please have a look and edit the same . JockerEdit (talk) 12:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Sir/Madam, please take your concerns here Talk:Sundhi. Also read WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:OR and WP:MOS#Grammar_and_usage. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 06:17, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Pinsky I guess it’s mistaken from sunri caste . I know this caste very well and it’s not an Dalit caste I don’t know format to edit I request you to remove the word from Dalit to vashya . JockerEdit (talk) 13:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I don’t know much about these keyword I can read npov and all but i am just mentioning it’s not correct info JockerEdit (talk) 13:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@JokerEdit: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a WP:RS. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 13:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Recent Revert

If you can't provide satisfactory explanation, your recent revert at Baidya article would count as a vandalism. Nobita456 (talk) 18:55, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


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Hello Pinsky, I am not sure about your concerns. First you put OR tag on top article without explaining the reasons for it. Then you are supporting a major content removal, which doesn't fall under WP:REMOVAL, and again without appropriate explanations. I understand there could be a genuine mistake, so I fixed the citations. If you still have concerns, please start discussing on talk page, so that we can find a solution collaboratively. Thank you.Chanchaldm (talk) 01:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

you're supposed to initiate the discussion. Isn't it? Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 09:24, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
First I needed to know your concerns.Chanchaldm (talk) 11:11, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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Wrt Yadav short description

Hi, You recently reverted my short description at Yadav, kindly please suggest what should be the appropriate short desc here. The short desc of Social Community is not right, reason being this word is used by communities after Sanskritisation in late 19th century. This needs to be pointed out. RS6784 (talk) 16:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Dr.Pinsky: please suggest an appropriate short desc fulfilling the article description and other than the social community. RS6784 (talk) 16:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm not proposing anything. I'm merely stating that, changes made by you was not an improvement. Please refer WP:SDFORMAT and try to discuss with the involved editors. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 16:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
@Dr.Pinsky:, as per WP:SDFORMAT, it says "be short – no more than about 40 characters (but this can be slightly exceeded if necessary)

The Shortdesc helper gadget displays a character count as the description is changed. be written in plain text – without HTML tags or wiki markup start with a capital letter avoid initial articles (A, An, The) except when required for correct grammar and meaning avoid a final full stop."- I just violated A, An, the"- if I correct this it is fine. This will make it under 40 characters as well. My points is shortdesc must support the article, the issue is Yadav as word has been adopted very recently by many groups ( under 120 yrs), so we can't call it only social community. RS6784 (talk) 17:08, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@RS6784: It should be concise explanation of the scope of the page. Regarding "Sanskritisation in late 19th century", I'm sure this is mentioned in the body of the article. A term used by various communities of India since late 19th century is a less disjointed and confusing than what the article currently has in the "short description". Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 17:19, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
@Dr.Pinsky: thanks again, I will take your points wholeheartedly here. I am suggesting a shortdesc like either it should be - Social Communities or Social Community formed post-19th century. Yes, the sanskritisation part is mentioned but it must reflect in the short description as the term Yadav is used by many communities since 19th century. It would be helpful if you can also suggest a short description. Thanks and Best RS6784 (talk) 17:27, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
@RS6784: I appreciate your patience. Regards. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 17:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi, may I proceed on of the above suggested short desc? RS6784 (talk) 06:21, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
@RS6784: You may proceed. But I'd suggest you to discuss with the involved editors and establish a consensus for this alteration. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 11:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

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Sundhi is not a Dalit community in Odisha

Dr.Pinsky, As the original creator of the Sundhi page in 2006, I can definitely say that Sundhi is not a Dalit community in Odisha. If other reference sources say that Sundhi is an OBC caste in Odisha, how can we take into account a source which talks about the Sundhi caste of Odisha and at the same time mentions it as Dalit community. I am not argueing to prove whether the caste is Dalit or not but I can definitely say that it is not a Dalit community in Odisha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 17:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Bhuvannalla: Please discuss content issues on article talk page Talk:Sundhi. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 20:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Revert on Chitpavan

Hi, I noticed you recently reverted a good-faith edit on the page Chitpavan. I agree that the content should have cited a source, but it seems to me that there is sourced content in the body of the article which says the same thing. In my opinion, it might therefore make sense to leave it in the article with a citation needed tag. Thoughts? --Lenny Marks (talk) 09:37, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@Lenny Marks: Thanks for letting me know. Some of the sources do say. Will ask someone better than I. @Fylindfotberserk: would you mind having a look [1]. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 10:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
The link with Israel is mythological and anecdotal. If you see the section Chitpavan#Origin, it says "As per Tudor Parfitt and Yulia Egorova, the Parashurama mythological story of shipwrecked people is similar to the mythological story of the Bene Israel Jews of Raigad district. According to the historian Roshen Dalal, similarities between the legends may be due to a connection between the Chitpavans and the Bene Israel communities. The history of the Bene Israel, who also settled in Konkan, claims that the Chitpavans are also of Jewish origin." . Not leadworthy at all. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:09, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks Fylindfotberserk. Hope you are doing well. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 10:13, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Welcome mate . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:16, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for checking it out :) Lenny Marks (talk) 17:31, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Al lo davar. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 17:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

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@Dr.Pinsky hello. thanks for your advice. also I'm not new, just lost my username & password on bad luck, however appreciate your kindness. basically I'm into expansion for articles,. no doubt. here is a problem which is I expanded the article you can see for yourself in the history cited daily mail etc, the user generalrelative removed them a couple of times based on unreliablity of sources sent me WP policy. I tried to discuss & solve the problem on the user talk page but the user deleted all them either, you can see for yourself. finally I said ok that's unreliable so it's also for guardian & independent etc. wouldn't accept it either. basically user tried to promote page. any neutral intervention appreciate by me Freethinker6799 (talk) 19:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@Freethinker6799: If you were reverted by a handful of editors, you should start a discussion on the article talk page rather than starting an edit war on the article. Reverting back and forth is going to get you blocked. Please adhere to WP:BRD and focus on the sources and content rather than editors. You may find noticeboards like WP:BLPN, WP:RSN or WP:NPOV useful. If you fail to achieve a consensus, consider starting an RFC or DRN. (cc:Generalrelative). Regards. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 20:13, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
@Dr.pinsky: yes, dear thanks, actually it's not a lot of situations, dispute is on a certain passage.

I'm not into any kind of war, including edit warring, while @Generalrelative prefer to get me blocked instead of discussion. repoted me to notice board for block. that's very telling. I want the page be neutral and scientific. Freethinker6799 (talk) 20:27, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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Please do not vandalise the Roger Jenkins entry without giving a proper explanation. If the information was thought relevant by The Times of London, The Sunday Times, The Scotsman, and Business Insider, it is relevant and suitable to be included in the person's Wikipedia entry. Thank you.92.6.113.241 (talk) 13:44, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@92.6.113.241: Thank you for the welcome template. However, I am aware of how Wikipedia works. And when did I vandalise Roger Jenkins (banker). Could you please enlighten me? Bishonen: a sock puppet perhaps? Dr.Pinsky (talk) 14:49, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
I can't tell, Dr.Pinsky. I've given the IP some advice. Bishonen | tålk 15:57, 17 June 2022 (UTC).

Phil Anselmo edits - June 2022

Hi Dr. Pinksy, the explanations about the article change were given; I was just not logged in. This is the copy-paste of the explanation:

This section was expanded and the name changed; it is important to say what's racism is about: RACISM, and not just "controversies". Plus, Anselmo has been involved in other white pride occasions throughtout his career.

And I noticed that you reverted my changes again, agreeing with Anselmo and the user FMSky on failing to understand that Pantera lyrics doesn't make Anselmo less racist with his atitudes all along his life and keeping a complete useless remark about these lyrics. Please stop it or I will report you for vandalism and supporting anti-racist censorship. tty666 (talk) 18:12, 29 June 2022 (UTC +2)

@Tty666: You must understand that, I simply reverted it because you failed to explain your edit. We wouldn't have to have this discussion if you had explained your edit with an informative edit summary. I will also respectfully request you that you refrain from intimidating me. If I were you, I would not try to threaten other Wikipedia users, especially for something so insignificant. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 19:43, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
I understand that. In return, I expect from you that in the future, consider two important points:
1. Reading more carefully explanations from unlogged users; the explanation is there, and you failed to read it and took the liberty of reverting changes anyway;
2. I have nothing further to discuss with someone who consider being clear and straightforward about nasty racist attitudes from a famous singer something "insignificant".
tty666 (talk) Tty666 (talk) 10:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
This is clearly WP:INTIMIDATION and WP:BULLYING, coming from a user with self-admitted WP:Sockpuppetry. @Tty666: Please do not post on my talk page ever again, consider this is my formal request. And I’m sorry for trying to be generous. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 12:43, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

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