User talk:Dirtrdblues

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Proposed deletion of Diann Blakely[edit]

The article Diann Blakely has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 00:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Diann Blakely[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Diann Blakely requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Diann Blakely[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Diann Blakely requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. ttonyb (talk) 14:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Diann Blakely[edit]

Hello Thank you for your edits to this article. However, can I ask you always to check the references given when you add information so that it is verifiable? For example, I notice you changed her first degree to art history and added that she went to "Harvard University, and Boston University, serving as a teaching assistant for Seamus Heaney and a Junior Tutor at Harvard from 1986-8" but that is not supported by the reference given, which is this one]. I don't doubt any of this is true, but if you add or change information you need to add additional or different references to support what you write. Personal knowledge doesn't cut it; it's a rule we have to have because we really don't know who anybody is. Hope this makes sense. --Slp1 (talk) 23:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you; it does. I will pass along this note to Ms. Blakely (she is the one who gave me that bio information to add) and make the necessary additions or changes. Dirtrdblues (talk) 03:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ms. Blakely has sent me a scan of her teaching certificate letter from Harvard. Is that a suitable source, and if so, how can I include it in the reference list? Dirtrdblues (talk) 04:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, unfortunately it won't do, because we don't know who anybody is here, and therefore can't do that kind of original research with unpublished material that other people can't check. Frustrating but essential when you consider that people try to add all sorts of libellous "facts" about people they dislike!! We want articles that are sourced to mainly secondary sources, and as much as possible sources independent of Ms. Blakely (ie about her, rather than by her). I think you should carefully read the policies and guidelines I have linked here, as it will help you understand better.

The other thing that is going to be important for you and Ms. Blakely to understand is because of your conflict of interest you will need to edit it very carefully and neutrally. Sometimes making suggestions on the talkpage of the article is the best way to go. You don't own the page or information and other people can and will edit it and change things, including perhaps adding things that you would rather not have, such as negative reviews etc. As long as these are from reliable sources (books, newspapers, magazines, journals etc) this can and should be included. This is not a promotional document, but an encyclopedia entry. Just so you know, here's an article about thee British writer Nick Burbridge, written mainly by people he knows, who took seriously the notion that they needed to take an encyclopedic approach and include the good and some of the bad! If you have any general questions about editing, here is a good place to ask them; if you have specific questions about the article, sources etc, then the talkpage of the article is probably the best place. --Slp1 (talk) 12:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand perfectly, and appreciate your feedback in this matter. I will remove the contested information until we can supply sufficient secondary/independent sources. Dirtrdblues (talk) 22:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the contested info, and also changed Ms. Blakely's first degree back to history. Dirtrdblues (talk) 22:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated Ms. Blakely's biographical info, as the UTC reference source itself has recently been updated; because of this, I took down the "not in citation given" notation, as her degree information has now been corrected in the source. Everything I have added is verifiable in sources already included in the reference list. I have also added several links to outside articles, essays, and articles about Ms. Blakely. Dirtrdblues (talk) 22:19, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]