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DYK for Pointer (dog breed)

On 15 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pointer (dog breed), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that it is popularly believed that the Pointer descends from Old Spanish Pointers introduced to England in 1713 by soldiers returning from Spain after the Peace of Utrecht? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pointer (dog breed). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pointer (dog breed)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Calupoh

The discussion was for Calupoh to be deleted in September 2019. It was resurrected the following month. William Harris (talk) 11:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Notable Deerhounds

Hello Richard Hawkins, if a dog cannot be named it is clearly not particularly notable, the article is not a repository for every Deerhound that has ever been mentioned in a a letter. Cavalryman (talk) 23:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC).

None of those names, originally added by others, were simply mentioned in letters, and this referred to one particular - clearly named individual - which was made notable in three books, and a major movie. No one even attempted to make this a "repository of names ever mentioned in a letter". I suspect you have other trivia you can better deal with, by making fewer mistakes, being more accurate and more polite. :-) --Richard Hawkins (talk) 23:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
I am unsure if it was a mistake to repeat a talk page discussion verbatim here. I have relied at Talk:Scottish Deerhound#Notable dogs. Cavalryman (talk) 04:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC).

Happy new year !

Hello dear Cavalryman! I hope you are well? Even if it's a little late, I want to wish you a happy new year. Covid is now also causing very big problems in Germany. With luck, things will be better here in autumn. As I see you write a lot of articles for and about dogs? @Cú Faoil: is a nice colleague with whom I worked for many years in de: WP. At early times he helped me with the hunting portal in de:WP He is also really knowledgeable about dog topics and has excellent English language skills. I would be happy if you can help each other. I wish you happiness and health. Best regards --Tom (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Tom, happy new year to you too, I hope you had a good Christmas despite the situation. I was thinking about you just yesterday and wondering how you were going the situation in Germany was on the news. The disease definitely follows the winter, we are now effectively covid free in Australia. Hopefully the rollout of the vaccine begins to take effect and you can begin to return to a state of normalcy soon. Many thanks for putting me in touch with Cú Faoil, there are a few German dog articles on English Wikipedia that require some attention soon. Stay safe. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 20:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC).

Paradox rifled Shotguns

Hello Cavalryman! I just like to drop the info, in case you want to use this? Best --Tom (talk) 19:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Tom, many thanks, I will look to splice them into our paradox gun article. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 19:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC).

Tibetan mastiff

About the Indian name gaddi kutta(https://g.co/kgs/6Z83i6) About the term mastiff (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Mastiff) itself says this breed is not a true mastiff in the next paragraph(Name) while the wrong statement is placed in the introduction itself as a breed of mastiff family About the breed photo itself it is a modern mastiff while this breed is to be ancient breed ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bikaash (talkcontribs) 15:23, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Bikaash, if you gave any WP:Reliable sources that discuss the gaddi kutta I would be most appreciative, I have searched extensively without success. I have left a note for you at Talk:Tibetan Mastiff#Origin, I agree they are not mastiffs. Cavalryman (talk) 03:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC).
The article Tibetan Mastiff is not of much research in the sense it is wrong and misleading article while it is of research with wrong references. As of your reversing on this article you are better to stick with next dog breed(gun hound and others hounds) as your profile says. please read the articles completely when you are free rather than reversing it completely without having a look on the changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bikaash (talkcontribs) 05:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Bikaash, as I have said to you previously, I understand you are an extremely inexperienced editor so Wikipedia's policies are no doubt unfamiliar to you. If you do not provide reliable sources for your contributions, they will be reverted. Cavalryman (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Template:Mastiffs

Hello. Looks like our edits crossed. Can you please take a look at the IP's additions of the extinct breeds at Template:Mastiffs? Thank you. --DB1729 (talk) 23:13, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

DB1729, many thanks for the note. I have started a discussion at the dogs project page (WT:DOGS#Utility of Template:Extinct dog varieties) as this is sort of linked to a number of dog navboxes. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 03:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

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Bulgarian Hound

I have introduced a new section. I do not want to hear any nonsense about this breed being introduced with the invasion of the Bulgars in the 7th Century, or the Magyars in the 10th Century, or the Turks in the 14th Century or whatever - Bulgarian Hound#Lineage. As I have said before, Western Europe has its own ancient lineages. Regards, William Harris (talk) 09:36, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Haha, it was only “claimed”. I’m glad you’ve found some sources for these ones, I had a quick look without luck. Cavalryman (talk) 09:59, 13 March 2021 (UTC).
Slowly but surely, the DNA crew will challenge most of the myth that surrounds a number of these breeds. (That breed and its friends link to a specimen far much older, but Wikipedia is not ready for that one yet. I do keep some shots left in my magazine for using later!) Good work with the removal of "dogtime" etc. William Harris (talk) 10:09, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Dog harness

Hello there, you removed some sections from Dog harness on the 16th of March because of unreliable souces. Would you help me out and tell me why did those sources qualify as unreliable? I'd go and find new sources based on your answer. Thank you for your help! Repassyz (talk) 14:39, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Repassyz (talk · contribs), for a start everything included on Wikipedia must be cited to a WP:Reliable source, not just have a single citation included somewhere randomly in a section. For the sources themselves it is best to read the above link, basically it’s hard to go wrong with a published book or an article from a major newspaper, academic journal or magazine.
In this instance you cited several companies marketing the very products you were writing about as well as some advocacy organisations, neither of those are independent of the subject matter. Cavalryman (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC).
Hello Cavalryman Thanks for your answer. I will read carefully the above link and will apply what I learnt. Thanks again! Repassyz (talk) 14:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive

Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive#Participants and create a worklist at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Calvaryman, I think that the Nebelung’s infobox needs a new photo, because the photo is a little too dark, plus the face isn’t entirely showing. Also, can we add health issues

I think that this article needs a little improvement, as well as more information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.23.154.148 (talk) 19:09, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Calvaryman - Cretan Hound

Thanks very much for your edits/help with Cretan Hound edits, corrections, and advice. As you can tell, I am still a novice editor. I live on Crete and own a Cretan Hound, and I see what you meant about my mistake in the dog's appearance etc. Please, as you can, I so appreciate your advise. I know the hunters and breeders here and have a lot of information that is a bit difficult to include because much of the info on the dogs is in either Greek or German. Again, TYSVM.Philbutler (talk) 06:15, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Welsh dogs

Could the Welsh Hillman be the same dog as the Old Welsh Grey Sheepdog? References used in both eventually lead to here, a website set up to help promote her book. William Harris (talk) 21:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hancock[1] discusses the Old Welsh Grey, Welsh Black and Tan Sheepdog and Welsh Hillman; Morris[2] the Old Welsh Grey, Welsh Black-and-Tan Sheepdog (hyphens his), Welsh Blue-Grey, Welsh Collie and Welsh Hillman, I haven’t check any others sources. Perhaps this is actually under-done as opposed to over-done. Cavalryman (talk) 23:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC).
Many thanks. William Harris (talk) 04:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Hancock, David (2014). Dogs of the shepherds: a review of the pastoral breeds. Ramsbury, Wiltshire: The Crowood Press Ltd. ISBN 978-1-84797-808-0.
  2. ^ Morris, Desmond (2001). Dogs: the ultimate dictionary of over 1,000 dog breeds. North Pomfret, VT: Trafalgar Square Publishing. ISBN 1-57076-219-8.

Redirects

I see no reason why a dog which has a redirect should not be categorised appropriately, so I've reverted your edits on Honolulu (dog) and Tennille (dog), which were on my watchlist. Categorisation of redirects for subtopics of articles is allowed, per WP:RCAT. PamD 09:45, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello PamD, I am baffled as to why you would create such redirects, neither topic is independently notable, in fact none of the cited sources are reliable. Further, one is an orphan and the other is only linked to a DAB page. What is the point? And why should a category include a redirect to a non-notable, unreliably sourced topic? Cavalryman (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC).

Pyrenean Mountain Dog

Love your work. That class=B you classified it at - it is borderline GA, you might consider it. Is "Pyr" really a common nickname? William Harris (talk) 09:40, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. I think I have seen a couple other sources (in French) that would further expand it then I might nominate it. Several of American sources refer to it as the Pyr in the text but it was hard to weave into the text, it certainly wouldn’t be referred to that in France, might be easier to ditch it. Cavalryman (talk) 21:02, 11 May 2021 (UTC).
Keep me posted prior to the nom. There are rules around who can assess a GA, but I have not contributed other than remove unreferenced text, which any editor is entitled to do. William Harris (talk) 08:22, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Will do, many thanks. Cavalryman (talk) 09:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC).
(talk page watcher) It's almost invariably called patou in France. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:41, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Your further work on this one now has it solidly looking a GAC. The first sentence might be rejigged:

The Pyrenean Mountain Dog is a breed of livestock guardian dog from France, where it is known as the Chien de Montagne des Pyrénées or more commonly the Patou. It is referred to as the Great Pyrenees in the United States.

William Harris (talk) 11:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks. I think it is getting pretty close, it was interesting reading up on the re-arrival of wolves and the introduction of additional bears in France, thank the lord for the dog fence here. I will slap a nom tag on the TP. Cavalryman (talk) 11:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC).
The wolves and bears was absolutely fascinating, but given the size of the dog they look similar to a small bear. I am going to purloin some of this for the Italian wolf (Mario's) article. William Harris (talk) 09:32, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
The Meuret et al source[1] is excellent, I am sure there is quite a bit that could be brought across. Surprisingly, it’s published in Australia too. Cavalryman (talk) 09:37, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ Meuret, M.; Moulin, C.-H.; Bonnet, O.; Garde, L.; Nozie`res-Petit, M.-O.; Lescureux, N. (2020). "Missing shots: has the possibility of shooting wolves been lacking for 20 years in France's livestock protection measures?". The Rangeland Journal. 42: 401–413. doi:10.1071/RJ20046. Retrieved 18 June 2021.

WP:DOGS

Some time ago I badged WP:DOGS as semi-active. Later, you rebadged it as active. After the three person response I received to the WP:DOGS Talk page entry concerning the Dog article, I am convinced that the project needs to be rebadged semi-active. It is clear that it is not functioning as a project should. Of those editors still included on the list of membership, some are very active on dog-related articles but not on the project, many do not work on dog-related articles at all as they have other interests, and some are approaching over 12 months inactive on WP. William Harris (talk) 23:58, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

William Harris, I think it was Atsme who removed the banner after this conversation. From what I can tell WP:DOGS is now one of the more active WikiProjects (or at least of those I have had a look at), of those I know of only MILHIST is more active as a project. Re dog, I apologise I have been planning a rewrite of a couple of the sections but have yet to commence, I think we can turn it around over time.
My feeling is we are still active, just not as active as we would prefer. Atsme, Justlettersandnumbers, LoraxJr,SMcCandlish and our honorary member SilverTiger12 (apologies to anyone I have missed), what are other member's thoughts? Cavalryman (talk) 06:04, 17 May 2021 (UTC).
FYI, my new German friend from Wolf - with the outstanding diplomatic skills - is now blocked indefinitely. William Harris (talk) 06:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
It's my impression that the project has actually begun to function as a collaborative effort in a way that perhaps it didn't before. I think there may in general anyway be more wikiproject-related activity behind the scenes than we think – a large proportion of the animal breed articles I've started have recently received assessment, for example; someone is plugging away at that without any noise or fuss. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Not the big turnout that was expected? We both appear to have commenced hitting Dog at the same time. My first run will be to remove unreliable or dubious sources, and to replace media sources with the original study. I have found over the years that the media tends to add their own spin to a study, and will either misquote the author or ascribe their own views, or both, in order to spice their article up a bit and so receive more "hits". William Harris (talk) 00:09, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
JLAN, I agree, some project's TPs or noticeboards may be busier (eg WP:AWNB) but there is not the whole of project approach as at WP:DOGS.
WH, I suppose some members priorities fluctuate depending upon what they working on at a certain time. Re Dog, I think that's a wise approach, strip the dubious sources then we work through the various sections, reorganising as we go. With media reports, they may have a place in subordinate articles, but the flagship article should be sourced to meatier sources. Cavalryman (talk) 03:51, 21 May 2021 (UTC).
I could not agree more. William Harris (talk) 08:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Dog: 137kb size in February, 108kb size now. Around 30kb of junk removed for no real loss. (talk) 02:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Precisely, Guinness book of records should not be used to source any species articles. Cavalryman (talk) 11:06, 27 May 2021 (UTC).
William Harris, let me know if you think my additions to the anatomy section are a little too simplified, I am trying to keep it fairly broad brush but may be dumbing it down too much. Cavalryman (talk) 02:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Go for it; there is little chance of dumbing it down too much in the Dog article and the simpler the better.
What are your thoughts on "Differences from wolves" joining the "Evolution" section? William Harris (talk) 02:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
I can see it fitting both there and its current location, my current plan is to work through the anatomy section. Cavalryman (talk) 03:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Should it be included at all? (Currently it misses the easiest one to pick, a wolf has a grey fur mask running across its eyes - unless it is a Malamute! I run a similar section over at Evolution of the wolf.) William Harris (talk) 03:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
I won't miss it. If we think we want it later, we can rewrite then. Cavalryman (talk) 04:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC).
Good point. I will export it to EOTW. Dog has developed similar to any other low-quality WP article. Somebody found something in the media/journal/book and placed it in there. Nobody has ever gone through and sorted it out with a steely eye. There will be sections to delete, sections in need of inclusion, and some form of structure developed. William Harris (talk) 08:07, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
William Harris, feel free to make some amendments at User:Cavalryman/Sandbox 5, it's still a work in progress. I would like to further develop the tail paragraph and the coat paragraph is only a start. As opposed to sourcing the current the structure I thought I would take a page out of wolf and just write a description section. Unintentionally, it alleviates the need for the old "Differences from wolves" section. Cavalryman (talk) 06:24, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Plus Wolf is a recent FA-standard article, so it is of a standard that we should be aiming for. William Harris (talk) 08:14, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I forgot to say, which of the two picture options do you prefer? Cavalryman (talk) 10:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC).

A cavoodle for you!

The Cavoodle of Articles for Creation
Thank you so much for your in-depth source analysis regarding the canoodle article. I deeply appreciate it and your knowledge! Missvain (talk) 04:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Missvain, thank you very much for the kind message and the great work over at AfC. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 09:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC).

Goldendoodle

Hey, thank you for your help with the editing on the Goldendoodle page. I am a new editor and this project an uni assignment so I am quite nervous. Regarding the recent removal of the size table, I think the table helps readers to read easier than just text. Also, the appearance photo is actually my remake of the illustration from The Dog Encyclopedia (p.296) so is it considered as reliable? Again, thank you for helping to improve the page and I am looking forward to hearing back from you. CkuaWiki (talk) 09:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

I am really stressed because we need to add 2000 words into the page including media and tables. I am sorry if I am sounding a bit rudeCkuaWiki (talk) 09:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello CkuaWiki, I think it goes against everything Wikipedia stands for that you have to add a minimum number of words to an article, we value quality not quantity. This is demonstrative of the complete ignorance of your teachers and you are welcome to refer them here to argue that fact with me.
To start with I suggest you read WP:NOTNEWS, just because there is a single news story about an event including a Goldendoodle, it doesn’t need an entire section. Re the table, I disagree, it places too much weight on something that prose adequately represents. Reference the picture, every piece of prose in the picture needs to be included in the text, personally I think prose is far superior. Cavalryman (talk) 09:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC).
CkuaWiki, please let me know when your course has finished, I will step back until that time. Out of interest, which university are you attending? Regards, Cavalryman (talk) 11:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC).
The assignment is due on 31 May 23:59 Sydney time. And thank you for all the tips. I am currently a final year student at the University of Sydney. This course is part of our Open Learning Environment unit. CkuaWiki (talk) 11:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
I graduated from Sydney Uni in 2004, best of luck. Cavalryman (talk) 11:11, 29 May 2021 (UTC).
Despite the inordinate amount of time spent in the uni tavern.......... William Harris (talk) 11:02, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Flinders University spans two ridges; the southern ridge is the location of the science/engineering/technology disciplines, and the northern ridge everything else. These ridges are separated by a lake. With a commanding view of the lake from the Flinders Tavern, the "Lake Monster Observation Society" commenced its watch from 5pm. William Harris (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Haha, in my day there were two bars on the Sydney Uni campus, one a student union run bar which was almost twice as expensive and everywhere else, the other was in the grandstand of the number one oval. But, there were about a dozen pubs within easy walking distance, our favourite was The Prince, it operated at a loss in some tax scam for a syndicate of pubs in Kings Cross so the drinks were bargain prices. Unfortunately it closed down and is now a brothel, their last night as a pub was one of the biggest parties of my life. Cavalryman (talk) 22:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC).
It looks like just the place! (You will of course know that I have matched the dates you gave for your frequency - above - with the dates given on the weblink for the two purposes of the building....) William Harris (talk) 11:11, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Segugio

Hi, Cavalryman, I hope you are well! I also really hope I haven't started the Second Portal War with my recent post at WT:DOGS, but time will tell about that (it isn't looking good). Regarding this, my memory is a bit hazy. They are actually two separate Italian/FCI breeds, and are not inter-bred. I recall that we discussed the possibility of splitting the article, and seem to recall that you rightly pointed out that there'd then be a lot of duplicated content; I'm happy to defer to you on that. But can we agree (between us, that is) to leave the two infoboxes intact, for now at least? At one point there were three, which I found excessive; I think I eliminated one of them. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Justlettersandnumbers, yes well thanks, I too hope you are well. Re portals, I suspect I am similar to you and have never considered them particularly worthwhile. This is my first encounter with the portal advocacy (I largely ignored the debate in 2018) and I have been surprised by their aggression and incivility. To be fair to NA2K they have cleaned up the dogs portal, but I get the impression their assessment of what articles should be selected for inclusion is length of an article’s lead, not quality of content or sourcing. I remain unconvinced about placing icons into see also sections, bare links, right hand boxes or portal bars don’t worry me so much. I suspect they will move on to the next portal soon and this one will once again be left to languish.
Re the Segugio, I am very happy to maintain the status quo. I was looking at the infobox’s coding and realised I had retained the ability to display multiple FCI standards; remembering you had removed one infobox from the article I thought I would experiment with a further reduction, but I am very happy to maintain the two. I still think two articles are not warranted, they were one breed until separated by a kennel club in the mid-20th century, so their histories and descriptions are completely intertwined.
Finally, your contributions to the Staffie article are most welcome, I have thought for some time it needed a shakeup, my intent with the merger nomination is to bring it back to where it should be. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 00:59, 5 June 2021 (UTC).

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Your GA nomination of Pyrenean Mountain Dog

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Congratulations once again, oh Master of the Buckhounds! William Harris (talk) 09:08, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Haha, many thank you very much, you blitzed through that one. Cavalryman (talk) 09:26, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

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Chalky (dog)

Thanks for that redirect however I've changed it to Sharp's Brewery; there's a small section stating beer's named after Rick Stein's dog. Condo951795 (talk) 09:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks, I saw a mention in Stein’s article, but that is just as good. Cavalryman (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

DYK nomination of Buckhound

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DYK for Pyrenean Mountain Dog

On 13 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pyrenean Mountain Dog, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Pyrenean Mountain Dogs were urgently introduced onto French farms in the 1990s to protect flocks from wolves that had arrived from Italy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pyrenean Mountain Dog. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pyrenean Mountain Dog), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Holding area request

Hi Cavalryman, thank you for reviewing Template:Did you know nominations/John Selwyn Moll. Can I ask if you would be able to go onto Template talk:Did you know/Approved and move the article down to a special holding area for the 24 July at the bottom of the page please? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 05:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

The C of E, done, my apologies for not doing so earlier. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 10:59, 15 July 2021 (UTC).

DYK for Buckhound

On 17 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Buckhound, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when Queen Anne became too infirm to follow her pack of Buckhounds (examples pictured) on horseback, she had paths cut through Windsor Forest so she could follow the hunt in a carriage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Buckhound. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Buckhound), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

SPI case

I believe that the first step - as you have been advised there - is to return the SPI to its original structure. However, you do not want to lose any of this good work, so that might all be copied onto that SPI's Talk page. William Harris (talk) 00:23, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks for the tip, I think I have returned it to the accepted standard [1], what I would like some guidance on is should I reduce the number of socks that have previously been linked to the individual, some have only several days contributions. Cavalryman (talk) 07:12, 24 July 2021 (UTC).
I think that would be a good approach as it simplifies things. If your main concern is BH, then I suggest you report on just that editor. Any other editors could be subject of separate SPIs. Keep it simple, so that the admins can activate simple processes with easy application of WP:POL. William Harris (talk) 09:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks, I will look to further cull the list. Cavalryman (talk) 22:50, 27 July 2021 (UTC).

Warning

Stop stalking me through my edits or I will report to the Administrators. Blockhouse321 (talk) 09:26, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello Blockhouse321, I note you have been editing this page for almost 15 years [2]. If your edits appear on one of the recent change lists I watch, and they are as poor as these last, you will be reverted. Cavalryman (talk) 10:51, 29 July 2021 (UTC).
Hello, you removed the information from the article that was there for years. You performed your deletion immediately after I posted to the article. At Wikipedia we work together to build a better article, why not help me to improve the article. Thank you Blockhouse321 (talk) 16:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
If you wish to discuss the article, then the article’s talk page is the appropriate venue. Further, it could be argued that your editing this page is a violation of one of the extant TBANs you are subject to [3]. Cavalryman (talk) 23:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC).

Rather than reverting the article discuss on the article talk page. This citation supports the information in the article. [4] Blockhouse321 (talk) 14:15, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Recent revert re MOSNUM

Re this revert, the relevant part of MOSNUM is WP:UNITS, specifically: In all other articles [without WP:STRONGNAT to US/UK], the primary units chosen will be SI units, non-SI units officially accepted for use with the SI, or such other units as are conventional in reliable-source discussions of the article topic (such as revolutions per minute (rpm) for rotational speed, hands for heights of horses, etc.). and Unit symbols are never pluralized (I do quite a lot of copy editing to fix stylistic inconsistencies and MOS-nonconformances like this). Archon 2488 (talk) 13:40, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello Archon 2488, please in the future link to the relevant part of the said guideline, otherwise it’s a meaningless edit summary. And ... if you start flipping conversation templates between units of measurement in an article please do so consistently throughout that article, not flip some and leave others, such inconsistencies make for messy articles. Thank you for pointing me to WP:UNITS, before now I have adopted that as an informal style guide when writing about British or American topics, Canada is an exception I have never been certain about. Cavalryman (talk) 13:50, 5 August 2021 (UTC).

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Chalky (dog)

 – Cavalryman (talk) 10:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Chalky (dog) is no longer a redirect. Is it significant enough?

Condo951795 (talk) 13:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Reverted Armant (Dog) Edits

Hi, you reverted my edits to the Armant (dog) article, because I referenced an unreliable source (PetGuide). The information I referenced had been in the article for a long time already, I simply moved the information into a new section, and then added the source. I understand the source I used was unreliable, but the information you erased was previously in the article without any reference whatsoever. I'm going to look for a more reliable source, because I think that the information is important to the article and should be re-reverted back to how it was. Thank you. --Mochabearr (talk) 20:12, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Update: I added a more reliable source to the Armant (dog) article, as well as the Japanese Terrier article. I hope that these sources are reliable enough for the article, as it's difficult to find information on these breeds. Thank you for correcting my mistakes with the unreliable references.--Mochabearr (talk) 20:35, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
@Mochabearr: you need to be careful citing kennel club breed standards, they are a primary source and need require in text attribution, as in “according to the Egyptian Kennel Club’s breed standard ...”. Secondary sources are much better. Cavalryman (talk) 23:16, 15 August 2021 (UTC).

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Clean socks

Congratulations on your masterpiece of investigatory work regarding sockpuppets. Who would have thought that a good look at the edits of "Block-head" would have led back to Sir Isaac Brock and a host of other socks across the past 16 years or so. The IP blocks are now going into place! You would make a fine trainee SPI Clerk. William Harris (talk) 11:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Haha, thanks. It took a while, it was a bit of a morass, but eventually it got sorted out. Cavalryman (talk) 00:19, 8 September 2021 (UTC).

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Alaskan husky reference material

Hi User:Calvaryman - You indicated on the Sled Dog talk page that you had identified Dogs by Desmond Morris as a reliable and independent primary source for the re-submission of the Alaskan husky page. I have since begun working on a draft of a new Alaskan husky page (Alaskan husky, and purchased a copy of Dogs which is on its way, but I would greatly appreciate any contributions you can make to the article via your copy if you have one. My hope is for the article to be robust and represent the true nature of the dogs, and the sources as of now are not as strong as I feel they could be. Thank you Mcfuggins (talk) 23:23, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Mcfuggins: thanks for the link and well done so far. When I get a chance I will make some additions. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 23:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC).

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DYK for Mack AC

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8 Oct 2021

Hi. I know that you said I didn't need to notify you here but I want to "officially" tell you that I have started a discussion here and asked Milhist members to comment here. Sammy D III (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Interwar tanks template

Having ousted the various prototypes from the navbox do you have replacement navbox in mind for them? GraemeLeggett (talk) 11:29, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Most are already covered in national AFV navboxes, I am considering making a British interwar AFV navbox which is the most glaring omission. Cavalryman (talk) 11:31, 12 October 2021 (UTC).
I have just noticed that you proposed something similar for the WWII navbox four years ago (Template talk:WWII tanks#Scope of template). Cavalryman (talk) 11:37, 12 October 2021 (UTC).
I don’t necessarily agree that the prototypes and development tanks should be removed. There’s nothing that states the navbox only covers production tanks. I’ll await input. Kierzek (talk) 12:48, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
According to Template:Tank navigation doc each template lists the articles about tanks which entered service during the period (bolding mine). If it is felt they should be returned then I believe they should placed in their own group, not intermingle amongst the vehicles that did enter military service. Cavalryman (talk) 12:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC).
I had missed that overall nav doc when I was quickly reviewing the particular template this morning. BTW, the World War II template, for example, does not follow that. If you gentlemen have any thoughts about Prototypes and developement tanks, let me know. Kierzek (talk) 13:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
It was my intention to move on to the WWII template next, to start with I think all of the tank destroyers need to be culled. These navboxes are unapologetically about tanks, not artillery. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 13:17, 12 October 2021 (UTC).
We should discuss a separate template. Kierzek (talk) 13:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
How about a dedicated navbox for all paper designs, prototypes and experimentals grouped by period: WWI, interwar, WWII, Cold War & modern? Cavalryman (talk) 13:32, 12 October 2021 (UTC).

It would make sense from where I'm sitting to create a navbox (or more) for the removed items first (duplicate the navbox and edit down to size). And then just rename the template call on the affected articles. GraemeLeggett (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

I agree. Kierzek (talk) 19:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
I am not sure I really understand what you are proposing, do you endorse my idea of a single navbox articulated above? Cavalryman (talk) 23:20, 12 October 2021 (UTC).
I have made a start → {{Experimental & prototype tanks}}. I am not at all sentimental about it, it’s one speedy nomination and single revert to the documentation template from being erased if a dedicated grouping in each period navbox is preferred. Cavalryman (talk) 00:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC).
Should be one for each period - tank development does roughly fall into - early ideas, including the weird and wonderful, out of necessity in WWI; a period of calm with influential public (A1E1 Independent) and secret (hidden because of Versailles) development; then looking for the ultimate AFVs in a "quantity vs quality" strife; finally Cold War is refinement and failed international collaboration projects.GraemeLeggett (talk) 05:14, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
I have finished a refresh of {{WWII tanks}} moving them into a separate group, I now think that is the best option. It won't be hard to restore the interwar and Cold War designs (and amend the template documentation). Thoughts? Cavalryman (talk) 05:23, 13 October 2021 (UTC).
@GraemeLeggett and Kierzek: in line with GraemeLeggett‘s arguments above about separating the periods I am learning towards returning the prototypes et al back into their respective period navbox (but grouped like {{WWII tanks}}), amending the relevant part of the template documentation (which dates from 2008) and deleting the new navbox. What are your thoughts? Cavalryman (talk) 02:55, 14 October 2021 (UTC).
I believe that presents better for interested readers. Kierzek (talk) 03:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

15 Oct 2021

Hi. I'm "officially" notifying you here because I didn't think it was proper to ping you and show your name at the first level. Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 12:49, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

17 Oct 2021

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NOV21

I have just dealt with our friend from Talk:Dog here William Harris (talk) 08:56, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. Cavalryman (talk) 09:52, 10 November 2021 (UTC).
The 12 month block should help clarify their thinking. William Harris (talk) 11:19, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Greetings from Germany

Fiat Panda Mk1 4x4, had some of these 2006-2009 (Hatchback, Sisley-cabrio & Pickup). Very nice technique with Steyr-4WD-mechanics. Sorryfully bad 1990s-recycling-steel, all of them rusted away.

Hello my dear friend Cavalryman!

I hope you are well as hopefully your family and the dog. Just so very warm greetings to down-under. Sincerely yours Tom (talk) 18:34, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

@Tom: it is very good to hear from you. We are all well thank you, we have finally been released from covid lockdowns, we have effectively been in lockdown since May and Melbourne now holds the world record for the longest in lockdown throughout the pandemic. My dog is getting older, she turned ten on 30th October, but she is still fit and except for a few gray hairs around her muzzle she still looks quite young. Because of the pandemic we’ve not done any shooting since April.
How are you and your family? My wife’s family are restoring an old palace just across the Polish border from Görlitz, my brother in law is there now. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 22:49, 13 November 2021 (UTC).
Hello Cavalryman!
Very nice to read you 🍻🍻🍻. I was going to reply here, but then decided to send you a personal email. Best Tom (talk) 08:53, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Period tank navbox

Change to width seems to have broken formatting in some articles (e.g. M-84D). Schierbecker (talk) 04:26, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Schierbecker, thanks. I went through the templates but should have gone through transclusions, there are no doubt several non-WP:BIDI transclusions. Cavalryman (talk) 04:29, 15 November 2021 (UTC).

There is a discussion at WP:ANI that involves you

As a courtesy see here. 7&6=thirteen () 17:47, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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@Joseywales1961: have you actually read the both articles? Basset Hound is about a distinct breed, basset is about a broader dog type of physically similar and related breeds. Basset Hound even says Basset Hounds are one of six recognized "basset"-type breeds, the subject of the new article. Cavalryman (talk) 10:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC).
I find it humorous that the editor who has done the most in removing extraneous dog articles from WP on behalf of WP:DOGS is challenged for creating a duplicate - and therefore unnecessary - article! Fortunately, this ended well without the need for the pack's intervention. William Harris (talk) 11:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Haha, I wasn’t too worried. It was disappointing the article wasn’t actually read, but I think it was an honest mistake. Cavalryman (talk) 11:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC).

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Hello @Apolo1991: thank you for the note. Does your research still require respondents to reside in the US? I had noticed elsewhere you said you had broadened the scope of it. Cavalryman (talk) 19:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC).
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Well that excludes me. Good luck with the project. Cavalryman (talk) 21:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC).

Dog cross-breed list article, cavachon entry

Hi @Cavalryman, you're explanation for why you removed my cavachon entry is unclear to me. What does "there is no purpose for this list article if you collapse the list. And what are you searching? The alphabetical ordering of comments?"?? Quiddy (talk) 04:12, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello @Paxperscientiam: the list's talk page is probably a more appropriate venue to ask this question, but I am happy to answer here. I removed you addition of the "Cavachon" with the edit summary unsupported by reliable sources (see diff) a dog food company is not a reliable source. The other edit summary was for this edit which was undoing this edit of yours, as said in my edit summary I see no purpose in sortable columns, the names column is the only column with any alphabetical order to it. Cavalryman (talk) 05:20, 20 December 2021 (UTC).

Could you please help

Hello dear Cavalryman!

I hope you are well and on the best way ot x-mas :-)

Today i like to ask you for some support concerning 7.7 cm FK 96. One of our friends is preparing a new article for de:WP.[5]. Over all, the corresponding article here in en:WP needs some updates. Specially i would like to read your expertise about these pictures [6] + [7] which objects are mentionend to be in sydney. This pictues might be in a wrong commonscat; sorrowfully i can not detect the right designation. Would you be so kind and have a look on this case? Our collegue user:sandbaer will be happy. I already tried do find deeper going information from Alfred Muther here.[8] Sorrowfully Muther does not reflect on the models before 7.7 cm FK 96 n.A..

Why should this be a question of interest? There are only a handful of surviving originals. Most of the cannons have been converted to "FK 96 n.A.". n.A. is the abreviation for new Model/Variant.

Keep healthy and with good minds ;-) Best --Tom (talk) 21:33, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Tom, I have had a quick look at sources available to me, and none even mention it (my sources are very light when it comes to WWI and pre-war artillery). I will keep searching. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 02:21, 22 December 2021 (UTC).