User talk:Angelina Lee

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May 2011[edit]

Hello Angelina Lee. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 07:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of 123RF[edit]

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A tag has been placed on 123RF, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Orphaned non-free image File:Logo 123rf.jpg[edit]

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Reply[edit]

Thanks for message. I think you may be confusing several things

I did not send you an email
I did not say you were connected to the company, that was Suffusion of Yellow. However, since all your edits have related to that company it seems highly likely. If you have a conflict of interest when editing this article, you must declare it. In particular, if you work directly or indirectly for the company, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly. Regardless, if you are paid directly or indirectly by the company you are writing about, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Angelina Lee. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Angelina Lee|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. However, concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.
I only nominated the article for deletion, DGG actually deleted it as non-notable and promotional

There is nothing in the article to show that the company meets the notability guidelines. To show notability you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits, but your article was basically only about what you sell.
You need to provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, social media, press releases and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing its management. Few, if any, of your refs were anything more than press releases
It was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact in the last version you edited include: The 123RF.com platform gives photographers, illustrators and designers a chance to showcase their photographs... allowing them the space to promote and sell their creations to an international audience... website that offers faster response plus a modernized and sleeker interface furnished with several added features... and so on. The deleted version had been cleaned up a bit, but was still just touting your product while telling us nothing about the company.

I've linked to users DGG and Suffusion of Yellow in the message above, since to some extent I'm answering for them, and they may wish to add comments Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:51, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I can't add much to what JimfBleak said so thoroughly and accurately. WP does not publish advertisements, so unless there is prospect of an actual article, there is no reason to undelete. do not undelete advertisements. In order for there to be an articles, you need references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources, not press releases or mere announcements. Every one of the references in the article is a press release, a slightly disguised press release, or the firm's own site.

In any case, the TOU are not optional.

But there is one thing WP did wrong here: the article should have been removed back in 2011, There are a few hundred thousand similar articles we need to identify and remove. DGG ( talk ) 13:22, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New version[edit]

I'm not going to list it for deletion, a it is not hopelessly promotional. However, it does not really have the references necessary to show notability, which must be references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources, not press releases or mere announcements:

Ref 1 is not substantial coverage, just a paragraph in a article about a number of different unconnected startups

Ref 2 is not substantially about the company, and not a reliable source

Ref 3 is about the company, but it's essentially a press release: a promotional interview where the founder says whatever he wishes

Ref 4is the company homepage, and not a reliable source for notability.

Ref 5, 6 & 7 are not about the company, and merely mention it.

If it were moved to mainspace, it would most likely be deleted. If the firm as as important as the article implies, there should be better references. DGG ( talk ) 04:59, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]