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Please comment on Talk:Ramadan

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July GOCE drive

The Most Excellent Order of the Caretaker's Star
For exceptional copyediting efforts during the Guild of Copy Editors July 2014 drive, copyediting articles with a combined total of 145,011 words, Amortias is presented with this exclusive, brilliant, Most Excellent Order of the Caretaker's Star. Thanks so much for your help! All the best, Miniapolis 18:04, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Leaderboard Award: Total articles—4th Place
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Leaderboard Award: Total words—3rd Place
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Leaderboard Award: 5K+ articles—2nd Place
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Leaderboard Award: Oldest articles—4th Place
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Leaderboard Award: Longest article—2nd Place
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Kartikeya Sharma

The family information on this article is being added with the intention of defamation. the intention is to create unrest in the employees of this person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.104.24.24 (talk) 18:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you explain how the addition of names of his family who already have their own articles on Wikipedia are intended to create unrest. Amortias (T)(C) 18:21, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

The family names and relations are not widespread public knowledge. which might be changed with inclusion of names on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.104.24.24 (talk) 18:27, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

The father has had a Wikipedia article since 2008 so must be noteable to have been included, his brother ahs had an article since 2006. their names would be widespread by there inclusion here for such length of time, can you advise how removing the links from this individual article will have a negative effect as severe as quoted in your first statement. Amortias (T)(C) 18:30, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
I have googled the family and am able to find various pages external to Wikipedia that explain the references between his family members, if you wish to remove this information you will need to take it to the articles talk page. Amortias (T)(C) 18:35, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Billy McFarland

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Sandy Frank page

Hello, Amortias,

I'm the person who was editing the Sandy Frank Wikipedia entry. I built Mr. Frank's web site, and he has contacted me about having the Sandy Frank page removed from your system entirely for business reasons. Is this possible? Thank you for your help on this matter.

Don — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.141.17 (talk) 19:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

@74.101.141.17: Hi Don, if an article needs to be deleted and it doesnt meet any of the specific reasons for deletion it will need to be requestd at WP:AFD by following the instructions [[1]], this will allow a discussion to be held about the merits of deleting/retaining an article.Hope this helps. Amortias (T)(C) 20:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Gustavo Deco Page

Dear Amortias I was surprised to learn that you have reverted my changes on the Gustavo_Deco page. The potential copyright issue with http://cns.upf.edu/gustavo/ has been resolved by rewriting the flagged paragraphs under the Training section. Please remove the notice and restore to the new, changed version. Many thanks in advance. MLKringelbach (talk) 22:04, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi MLKringelbach the Copyright issue can be addressed by yourself if you can rephrase the sections but the copyright notice should only be removed by individuals listed in the notice, i.e. administrator, copyright clerk or OTRS agent. If you can rephrase the sections in question and then wait for one of these users to remove the notice this would be the best way forward. You can retrieve your changes by viewing the previous version under the revision history. Amortias (T)(C) 22:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

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About Faculty of Economics-Prilep

Hello, Amortias,

I'm the person who was editing the Faculty of Economic-Prilep on Macedonian and I won't also to edit on English. Please help me to realize that. What it's necessarily to do to accept my page.

Best regards,

Milena Boskoska

Milenaboskoska (talk) 22:24, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

@Milenaboskoska:Hello Milenaboskoska.
There are various requirements to create an article and have it held on the En-Wikipedia. Articles need to have links to reliable sources these provide evidence that the article is notable. If you can include information in the article that shows how it is noteable you can then back this up by linking to other websites such as news organisations by using inline citations. If you can meet all these criteria then there is a much greater chance of your article being maintained in the english wikipedia. Amortias (T)(C) 22:35, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Distinguish

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WhiteKnightNews

Amortias, we are quoting an entertainment news article by us (White Knight News) with the explicit permission of Lydia Canaan, who is a personal friend of our executive producer. Please kindly aknowlege the legitimacy of our edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhiteKnightNews (talkcontribs) 20:39, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

@WhiteKnightNews: Hi, the reason your addition was removed was due to the nature of the edit. Adding information to an article taht explicitly sends people to a website you own/are involved with comes off as highly promotional and also displays as a conflict of interest. Wikipedia has a strict policy of non-romotion and as such this information should not be added by yourselves. if you wish to have it added you should loga request on teh articles talk page where a non-involved editor can evaluate and if appropriate include it into the article.Amortias (T)(C) 20:46, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:WZTV

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Speedy deletion declined: Gergana (poem)

Hello Amortias, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Gergana (poem), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 14:05, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

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CALCUTTA NATIONAL MEDICAL COLLEGES03042812 (talk) 06:12, 9 August 2014 (UTC)SOHAN

i am a student of a medical college in calcutta and i know this college much from inside so whatever i have written is good and you should restore it immidiately.(S03042812 (talk) 06:12, 9 August 2014 (UTC))

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Edit-warring

Hello, I see you are engaged in an edit war on User talk:184.4.123.171. Please familiarize yourself with WP:3RR which I must inform you has at this time been violated, and please also read WP:UP#CMT which addresses blanking of read comments by users on the own pages. Thank you. --The Old Boy In Town (talk) 19:51, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@The Old Boy In Town: Hi, my understanding is that WP:3RR does not apply in this situation as the user removing the information is a user blocked as a WP:SOCK and as such should not be editing under any of their sock accounts, any eidts they make using these accounts should be reverted as per exemption 3. Amortias (T)(C) 19:55, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

I was edit conflicted but was just about to say the same thing. The 3RR exemption "Reverting actions performed by banned users, and sockpuppets of banned and blocked users" seems to apply. Amortias, consider mentioning the exemption in your edit summaries like Rv, 3RR exempt - blocked user.
It can avoid misunderstandings. Chillum 19:59, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Noted. Amortias (T)(C) 20:00, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

It is not a problem for me personally, I'm not worried either way. Your edits (Amortias) show you to be a good faith editor so I'm saying don't fall into any traps, I definitely won't be raising a case with admins. Obviously if your actions were correct then that's fine. All the best. --The Old Boy In Town (talk) 20:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Thats fine, I tend to deal specifically in the areas of anti-vandalism/damage control so a lot of my edits would definetly fall foul of WP:3RR and WP:UP#CMT if it wasnt for the exemptions. No harm no foul. Amortias (T)(C) 20:49, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

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Using PROD

Hi Amortias. This is a just a friendly reminder that PROD tags that have been removed cannot be added back to the article. As Wikipedia policy explains, anyone, including the article's author, is allowed to object to a proposed deletion and permanently prevent it. This is different from speedy deletions (only the article's author may not remove CSD tags) and AfD (nobody may remove tag while discussion is in progress). If you still believe the article should be deleted, feel free to nominate it at Articles for Deletion and remember to notify the original author. While I understand that AfDs take more time than PROD, it is important that we adhere to policy and use it only for uncontroversial deletions. Thanks, Altamel (talk) 18:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

To clarify: this was concerning the article Faculty of Economics-Prilep. Altamel (talk) 18:15, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Hmm, my bad thought was restoring the yet again removed by the author CSD tag. Amortias (T)(C) 20:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Tushar Atik

Hello Amortias. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Tushar Atik, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 22:27, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Bosnian War

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GOCE July drive and August blitz

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Please comment on Talk:Mad Max: Fury Road

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Your message re William Edward Bauer

I am William Edward Bauer. The entry for my name was rudimentary and inadequate, and seemed to have been inserted by my former employer a long time ago. I simply substituted details which I have used for many years. I hope the replacement is still there.

Hi Bibau,
The edits in question can be recovered, however, the edits in question should not be made to an article about yourself as there is a clear conflict of interest with regards to editing an article about yourself. If you wish I can arrange to have the information posted onto the talk page where an uninvoved editor can evaluate the information and incorporate it into the article. Amortias (T)(C) 20:18, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I probably know more about me than anyone else. The c.v. is a straight chronological summary.

But if an editor wants to check it out, that's fine by me. Bibau (talk) 20:25, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I've requested additional sets of eyes to look at the article just so we can make sure no-one misinterprets your editing of it. Amortias (T)(C) 20:30, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Delete of the edit regarding source code of DWB

Dear Amortias,

DWB is maybe the most important historical software version of troff. To most users of troff it is very likely unknown that the source code of DWB had been made available by AT&T under EPL licence. Even I did not know it one month ago before when I found a notice about it in a forum thread. That this source code is available is a important note on a web page about troff.

May I ask a question: There is a link to Heirloom troff (the third). What is the diference to my edit? If my edit would be promotion, then this link would it be too. If this link is not, then my edit can't be it.

At the time when I get interested in troff these links had been very important to me to find usable implemantations. It is a good way to ask wikipedia to find links to other sources.

Kind regards, Carsten

Hi Carsten, the reason the edit was deemed promotional was that it included a link to a webpage that contained your username, if you wish to have it added then it would be best done by requesting it via the talk page. In the same way that we wouldnt want someone with a Bill.gates.microsoft username adding a link to Microsoft we have to be careful about other inclusions that appear to be promotional. Hope this makes sense if not give me another shout and I'll try to assist. Amortias (T)(C) 22:10, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Selfie

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Regarding the deletion

(I don't know how to reply directly...)

So I had been stupid to edit this with the true user name. Other would to this with an alias. But is this fair? And the result for the user of wikipedia is the same--the links are there. Like Heirloom or neatroff or mandoc, this is exactly the same thing. And the link is totally on topic--at the moment the site lacks a link to DWB.

From what I can tell it looks like honesty not stupidity. Theres no issue with requesting that information you host or created is used in an article. We just have to be careful about self-promotion and things like that (this is usually an issue from large companies or individuals who wish to promote them or their organisations - this doesnt appear to be the case here), if the information is valid then there shouldnt be an issue including it it just needs an uninvolved set of eyes to give it a once over. If you want to pop the link onto the talk page I'll see what I can do about getting someone to give it a look over and hopefully approval or advice on what needs to happen next.
I'll drop a message on your talk page with some helpful links on best practice and guidance etc that might be worth reading up on the policy in question for this one is here.
You can reply directly by clicking the edit button by the section and continuing after the text already entered. Amortias (T)(C) 22:29, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I have changed the repository name to the neutral name https://github.com/n-t-roff/DWB3.3 . The former name had not been appropriate--I agree with you. If you still think the edit should stay removed it is ok for me.

Hello Amortias, I seem to have problems with the Wikipedia talk system :) I got an Info that there is a new message but I can't find it on your talk page... Carsten.kunze (talk) 16:45, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Split, Croatia

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Regards

Hi, Amortias! I'm a newby at Wikipedia. I'm a native Russian speaker and a professional English-Russian translator. The article Enterprise bookmarking you've deleted wasn't a test! It was a translation -donation in Russian to your article.

Hi, as this is the English Wikipedia the majority of contributions should be in English, there are soe exceptions such as stating the names of peple locations or object in their native language, these do need to be marked up as such so that they dont get deleted (as your contribution did) as a non-english edit. Feel free to include the text again but you will need to place with a translation(if one exists on the page) or include one so that it can be understood in the main language fo the site. Amortias (T)(C) 23:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Zeitgeist: The Movie

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Joe La Placa page

Joe La Placa is not married to Ivey Sullivan. They are divorced.

Naming his current partner and his children and where they live has put his family at risk. Please remove this immediately.

There are many other inaccuracies on the page. I will address them in a subsequent emai

86.139.78.170 (talk) 00:31, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, if they are no longer married then you need to cite a reliable source to evidence this, the section would then need to say when they were divorced not remove the fact they ever were.
Can you also provide an explanation as to how providing names and a general location for their home endangers them, if so then this should not be removed but also reported to emergency@wikimedia.org Amortias (T)(C) 00:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

List of games with EAX support

Hi, thanks for your message! I found this side http://members.optushome.com.au/kirben/3dsoftware.html with the EAX Versions from lots of pc games. According to that, i made the changes and additions on the "List of games with EAX support" wiki site. Thus it was no test ;-) Greetings, Corny

Hi, thats fine, you may want to add the website as a reference against the relevent games so that the source can be cooberated and prevent the removal of the content reoccuring have a look at this link as a guide. Amortias (T)(C) 20:33, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Joni Ernst

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A mistake or computer hacking...

Hello Amortias...I am Lawrence Forde, and I'm responding to your latest message to me. I did not edit or make any addition to the Alicia Keys page at Wikipedia. While I value Wikipedia I do not add comments or edit webpages at Wikipedia. Please advise me as to how I might prevent this distasteful occurrence from occurring in the future.

Sincerely, Lawrence Forde

Hi there, the problem appers to be with you working from an IP address rather thatn a dedicated account, as IP addresses change form time to time with most internet providers it is possible the IP address that you normally connect with was in use by someone else at some point, the best thing to do would be to register an account (even if you ahve no plan to edit) so as to prevent this from happening, this will also mean if someone using an IP address that is also used by you and it gets blcoked you will still be able to access the site and work as usual. Amortias (T)(C) 15:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

The Platters

Please advise why you have reverted my edits to The Platters Wiki Page? The changes I am making are an attempt to correct the inaccuracies in the posting and are all based on current law.

Thank you,

Fred1215

Hi Fred1215,
The information was restored as although they may not have had a legal right to be using this name the information was still accurate in regards to them using it. I have noted that your later edits that provide information about the use of the name by other groups and individuals, this is a more suited method of updating the information available, by adding evidence that shows it has been used and the evidence showing why it should not provides a much more balanced (and neutral) point of view in line with Wikipedia guidelines. Amortias (T)(C) 21:49, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your response Amortias. I must, however, disagree with you. Those you have listed are NOTcurrent line-ups of the group. The only Current Line-up consists of the individuals in the group that I listed and cited with authorization to carry on the legacy today. If you would like to list the folks that you reference as people that may have used The Platters name in the past, then that would certainly be accurate, however, representing them under Current Line-Up's is not true nor supportable.

Thanks,

Fred1215

From User:EyesWhyde re. Message about article on The Revolutionary Communist Party, USA

I do not at all agree that my major edit of the article on the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA is not constructive. It is an accurate article based on thorough research. It is in fact far more accurate and constructive--and based on facts and not opinions, anecdotes, gossip etc.--than the previously existing article. Some users who clearly have views and opinions that strongly disagree with the views of the Revolutionary Communist Party raise a red herring argument questioning the neutrality of the article. The article does in fact conform to Wikipedia NPOV standards. As to WP:CONSENSUS, this too is a red herring. The fact is that the previous article was a mess and not up to Wikipedia standards and needed major work which I did. A much better article was produced. Prior to my posting of the article no "consensus" existed about the article. Now some people who clearly have an axe to grind with the Revolutionary Communist Party are wrongly trying claim that it is not NPOV and find any specious argument they can find to justify reverting the new article. Further as to WP:CONSENSUS if an article needs major editing, it is not wrong to do so. This is NOT edit warring. Both my intentions and what I have done are not edit warring. However, the response of some Wikipedia users who are very opinionated and biased, has been to engage in edit warring against this article.EyesWhyde (talk) 23:12, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Image removed

Hi. Thank you for correcting my blundering newbie mistake. I just thought the picture I added, or tried to add, would bring a nice illustration, and hopefully shed some light, as illustrations will, to the history of the musical score, of the controversial piece, subject of the article. I realize I went the wrong away about it, and risking to abuse your patience, I would like to ask you the favor of doing it for me, as i have no experience at all, in making internal wikilinks - I'd like the picture to show, illustrating the article, not buried under an "external links" list. Also, I don't hold an account, so it seems from what I read, that I cannot upload to wiki commons, in worder to make an internal link. Here's the only link I have to the picture:

File:Http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M4DK98inY30/UrHis7c-CaI/AAAAAAAAVb4/uXT0KdWR4Ow/s1600/Adeste Fidelis.jpg

Thank you for your help and your work in keeping wiki a useful tool for all.

Best regards,

Chuck 95.94.52.138 (talk) 00:15, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I'd be more than happy to uplaod this for you but I would need to know where you have taken the image from so that I can check it can be uploaded to wikipedia, if this isnt a photo you uploaded to blogspot then I will need to seek out more information before I can confirm this upload. Amortias (T)(C) 21:29, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: User talk:Mdelgadobonnerpr

Hello Amortias. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of User talk:Mdelgadobonnerpr, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: WP:FAKEARTICLE is not a valid reason to speedily delete a page. Thank you. Passengerpigeon (talk) 22:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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concerning LEO KUPER

I added ALL books he wrote before his death...to complete its UNCOMPLETED profile. So now, there is no useful informations for lecturers..only 3 books are noticed. Would it be possible to recover my works? It was not a test Thanck U Sam

Hi, the information you added while potentially acurate (I have no knowledge on this particualr individual) were included in the incorrect place which broke a section of the article - the edit was undone to fix this. To add this information you would need to add a new section to the page by adding the following text ==Bibliography== to the page before the ==References== text, under this you will be able to add the information regarding the references, if you want help with adding the information once you have created the new section let me know here and I will offer what aadditional help I can. Amortias (T)(C) 11:52, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

calcutta national medical college

hey bro i am from america..cant u see the references list i put it in there most of them being from govt sources...regarding calcutta national medical college....reply fast...--S03042812 (talk) 18:11, 24 August 2014 (UTC)S03042812

When placing references they need to be placed in a specific manner so that they can be linked to the sections they evidence, this allows us to link each source provided to a section of the article to provide evidence to back up claims and statements made. Please see this section on referencing for guidance on referencing correctly. Amortias (T)(C) 18:21, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

hey amortias i could not edit the page calcutta national medical college properly please according to the information i edited recently can you edit the same information properly so that i can learn...i had provided references most government sources so please instead of blocking me aur deleting my edits you edit the page properly....and please do replyS03042812 (talk) 17:29, 27 August 2014 (UTC)S03042812S03042812 (talk) 17:29, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Leonardo DiCaprio

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Tagging A1 or A3

Information icon Hello Amortias. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that you shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1), or content (CSD A3), moments after they are created. It's best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. P. S. I'm talking about this edit. Please take a look here. Thanks again, Jim Carter (from public cyber) 13:22, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Digital Rights Management

Hello, I appreciate the courtesy you extended in leaving me the following message today:

"I feel that the information may still be able to be included without the link itself but as it was your edit you may want the opportunity to reword the section. If you want me to readd it with the potentially problematic bit removed just drop me a message. Amortias (T)(C) 09:59, 28 August 2014 (UTC)"

I you would please edit my post to remove the offending portions, I'd be grateful.

Many thanks! - Froid (talk) 15:58, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Green tickY Done. Amortias (T)(C) 16:56, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Here we go, Amortias! Clintgabriel (talk) 22:32, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:OpenOffice.org

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Please comment on Talk:Shelley Moore Capito

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Speedy deletion contested: Heroic Purgatory

Hello Amortias. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Heroic Purgatory, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to films, unless the film is web content. Thank you. Passengerpigeon (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2014 (UTC)