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RPTV (TV channel)

Reason: Vandalism by Beauty Pageant and Telenovela IP vandal sock 124.107.211.40 (talk) 08:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 1 month, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Bane in other media

Reason: As per previous request, several more socks of Jaszen have turned up. [1] [2] [3] [4]. All reported at SPI but requesting temporary semi-protection in the meantime. Barry Wom (talk) 11:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

List of Paramount Global television programs

Reason: The IP hopper who frequented these kind of pages is back. They're adding unnecessary references and reverting my constructive editing, and only they seem to be fiercely objecting to what I do. Vidpro23 (talk) 12:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Those are reliable sourced that you removed for no particular reasons. 148.252.156.137 (talk) 17:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Declined – Content dispute. Please use the article's talk page or other forms of dispute resolution. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:04, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Crimean Tatars

Reason: Persistent IP vandalism. [5] [6] [7] [8]

IP user is citing a news page about the Crimean Tatar invasion of New England (one English city established in Crimea) as a source for the English origin of Crimean Tatars. Website holds no credibility [9], and it does not mention anything about English origin of Crimean Tatars rather, it is only about invasion and history of the city. I attempted to engage with the user on the talk page. [10].

Once again, the IP user has provided two sources that make no mention of the English origin of Crimean Tatars. This time, the words "English" or "Anglo-Saxon" don't even appear. I am fully convinced this is not a good faith edit and he is trying to mislead the readers for personal reasons. I believe this user won't stop using fake citations to prove his agenda. Auzandil (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

DeclinedWarn the user appropriately then report them to AIV or ANI if they continue. Sorry, but as I note in a request/s above a few minutes ago, we don't usually protect on account of just one user; usually there needs to be several to qualify for protection. Thank you. El_C 18:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Jared Bernstein

Reason: Repeated attacks by right-wing users attempting to discredit an economist within the Biden Administration by changing his title from "economist" to "musician" because he has historically played instruments DenbyDoo (talk) 19:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

User(s) blocked. Blocked 2601:5C4:4300:3260:0:0:0:0/64 for a spell. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

THX

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Block evasion by User:ImTheCool, using IPs from Rockford, Illinois. Binksternet (talk) 20:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

User(s) blocked: 138.199.105.90 (talk · contribs). One year, this time. Favonian (talk) 20:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Robert Pickton

Temporary extended confirmed protection: We have a famous serial killer in the hospital who may be dying soon...... Let's lock this up until we have proper sourcing. Moxy🍁 22:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 3 days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. @Moxy: I don’t see any unsourced edits from EC users, so could you please clarify why you’re requesting ECP? Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:12, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
We have people adding that he's dead... I can't find sources for that yet..... but it is anticipated ....News from this afternoon Moxy🍁 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
@Moxy: That's an IP address editor, not an extended confirmed user. We generally don't protect pages with ECP unless there is significant disruption from autoconfirmed users. This is discussed more at WP:PREEMPTIVE and WP:ECP. (Technically speaking, BLPs can be extended confirmed protected under WP:CT/BLP, but this page isn't anywhere near the point where that makes sense.) If there's significant disruption from autoconfirmed users, please feel free to submit a request for ECP. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Sorry wasn't paying attention to the acronym used...... will do so thanks for your help. Moxy🍁 22:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Joe Wilkinson

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 3 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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template:dn

Downgrade from full-protection to template-protection to match the protection settings of its target page.102.156.71.151 (talk) 22:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Bergen Belsen

Reason: A redirect which was protected over a decade ago. Is the protection still necessary for the time being?102.156.71.151 (talk) 21:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

 Comment:: The redirect isn't protected. The target, however, is protected. The last time it was unprotected, it received no edits that weren't vandalism or reversion of vandalism before protection was reinstated. The time before that, it was hit 5 times in two days. Why give them the chance? - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 21:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
I am requesting a protection removal from the redirect only. I am not requesting an unprotection from the target page. I know what I am requesting. To be clear, I have visited the editing source of this redirect (not target) and noticed that it is limited for autoconfirmed users. Strangely enough, there isn't a clue in the protection log, except that its protection settings got moved from the target article.102.156.71.151 (talk) 21:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Cyanide and ultrasound

Both articles have been indefinitely protected by a deceased user over a decade ago. Hopefully those WP:DEers are gone for good.102.156.71.151 (talk) 21:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Israel–Hamas war

Change "Since the start of the Israeli operation, more than 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed,[86] including over 15,000 children and 10,000 women.[87][88]" to "Since the start of the Israeli operation, nearly 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed,[86] including over 7,000 children and nearly 5,000 women.[87][88]." This is based on the data recently revised by the UN, accessible here: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-reported-impact-day-215. ConDissenter (talk) 21:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Is there another place to request this change? The talk page for Israel-Hamas war is restricted as well. The current source for casualty data is palinfo.com, which describes itself by saying it "does not lay any claim to neutrality for it blatantly sides with the oppressed Palestinian people." https://english.palinfo.com/about-us/. Recognizing that reliable sources do not need to have a neutral POV, why should we use this as a source rather than a less biased source like the United Nations? ConDissenter (talk) 18:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
@ConDissenter Please go check Talk:Israel–Hamas war for earlier discussions and to see why your request is unlikely to succeed. FYI, the lower numbers refer not to the killed overall but to the killed who have additionally been identified by name. Besides, all the numbers are sourced to Gaza MoH anyway. — kashmīrī TALK 09:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, Kashmiri. I recognize the data is all coming from the same place. (I've tried to access but can't find a reliable site for the Gaza Health Ministry to find the data directly, so I assume the UN is accurately presenting the data.) I agree it hasn't changed the total number killed which is why I didn't suggest a change to that -- beyond fixing the "more than" to "nearly" 35,000. But I don't see any basis for keeping outdated numbers on women and children. The old ratio was 72% and the new ratio was 52%. The talk page suggests we need to wait for more RS, but at this point there are plenty:
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/15/1251265727/un-gaza-death-toll-women-children
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/13/middleeast/death-toll-gaza-fatalities-un-intl-latam/index.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-women-children-death-toll-1.7203167
Is there any way to flag this for the editors of that page, even on the Talk page? ConDissenter (talk) 23:40, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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Template:Wikipedia's sister projects (request) 2024-04-25 14:25 Cascade-protected from Wikipedia:Cascade-protected items/Main Page/5 (log) Protected by Mifter on 2017-03-25: "Considering the main page was unprotected by a compromised sysop semi recently, perhaps transcluding it to a cascade protected page will provide a small increase in protection"
Updated as needed. Last updated: 22:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox aircraft occurrence (request) 2024-05-21 09:37 Template-protected (log) Modified by Mark Arsten on 2013-10-18: "Allowing Protected Template editors"
Updated as needed. Last updated: 21:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


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Autopatrolled

User:Prince of Erebor

I have created 80 articles, primarily focused on Sinophone cinema and fantasy literature, with 2 currently undergoing GAN. All of my articles have been promptly reviewed, and none of them have been deleted or marked for maintenance. I am requesting autopatrolled rights to alleviate the workload of the patrollers, especially those who actively review film articles and have reviewed the majority of my articles, allowing them to allocate more time to address articles that truly require attention. As a side note, I am a veteran editor with patroller rights on Chinese Wikipedia, having authored over 200 articles, including a dozen featured and good articles. While I fully understand that there are differences in policies and MOS across different Wikipedias, I believe this demonstrates my credibility and knowledge in assessing article quality.— Prince of EreborThe Book of Mazarbul 13:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

User:SheriffIsInTown

I frequently create articles on notable subjects, having authored 530 articles, with the majority facing no issues. Only three were deleted, mainly due to changes in election results affecting their notability. I'm requesting autopatroller rights to ease the burden on other editors reviewing my articles and help reduce the backlog of new article reviews. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 23:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

User:MinorProphet

Hi, I'd like to request Autopatrolled rights, please. A list of articles I created is here, and articles in various states of completion waiting in the wings are here. Cheers, >MinorProphet (talk) 16:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC) MinorProphet (talk) 16:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Eagledj

I have written 93 articles HERE, mostly music, biographies, golf, history, architecture, and people from Tennessee. I'd like to apply for auto patrolled status. I have done many BLPs including 5 GAs and I am familiar with the guidelines. Thank you.Eagledj (talk) 14:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC) Eagledj (talk) 14:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

User:GatewayPolitics

Hey, I'm requesting Autopatrolled because I mainly make election maps and correct election maps. For a while now, I have been requesting individual files so I can override them with updated data or shape the maps. I'm very experienced in making maps and always make sure I have correct information. Would I be able to have Autopatrolled? Thank you GatewayPolitics (talk) 21:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

also I've created a decent amount of articles GatewayPolitics (talk) 01:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 Not done Autopatrolled would not aid with election maps. While you have created 61 articles, many of them such as 2010 Tennessee Senate election and 2008 Tennessee House of Representatives election are not free of issues and require additional attention. - Aoidh (talk) 01:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
@Aoidh is there a way that I would be able to override maps without requesting? GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
If you're referring to uploading a new version of files like in this comment then if they're on Commons then it would be handled through Commons, but either way isn't something Wikipedia:Autopatrolled on the English Wikipedia would help with in any way. - Aoidh (talk) 06:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Oh alright thanks for the help. GatewayPolitics (talk) 13:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Oh, it looks like only Autopatrolled users can do that [11] it's fine though, I'll just request files like I have been. GatewayPolitics (talk) 13:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
@GatewayPolitics: Each project has its own permissions, so having autopatrolled on the English Wikipedia would not impact your ability to do anything on Wikimedia Commons and wouldn't allow you to update images there, you would need autopatrolled on Commons instead at Commons:Requests for rights. See for example Special:CentralAuth/GatewayPolitics where you have extendedconfirmed on en.wikipedia.org but not on other projects. - Aoidh (talk) 02:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Oh that makes sense. thanks for the help GatewayPolitics (talk) 02:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Monhiroe

have created 80 articles and to create more in the future. Monhiroe (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

User:KingEdinburgh

I regularly create military bio articles. KingEdinburgh (talk) 05:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

User:HagridLiving

Hello, I would like to request to become autopatrolled to simplify the process of creating pages about France and its heritage. HagridLiving (talk) 13:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Page mover


User:ToadetteEdit

Reason for requesting page mover rights: multiple reasons including to swap pages (as a result of RM discussions) and suppress redirects, especially R2 eligible. I understood that I won't abuse this privileged right and read the instructions. ToadetteEdit! 15:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done 3 months. rerequest closer to august. cheers – robertsky (talk) 02:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Cremastra

Re-requesting after my one-month trial expired a month ago. I rename pages when it's necessary to make a round-robin swap, draftify new articles, and periodically close RMs. I also sometimes help in renaming categories for CfD. Cremastra (talk) 20:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

User:TornadoLGS

I have spent some time patrolling recent edits and have draftified some articles and would like page-mover rights so that I can suppress redirects that would be R2-elegible. Additionally, while not something I have done as much recently, I have spent time editing tropical cyclone articles, which have been targeted over the years by an LTA known for page-move vandalism. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC) TornadoLGS (talk) 02:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done – robertsky (talk) 03:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Lightoil

Hi I am requesting permanent page mover rights. I have been using my rights to help close Requested Moves and WP:RMTR and to the lessor extent draftifying pages. I have been more careful since the last time I requested the rights, doing the required cleanup after moves. I am asking for the renewal early as it took a long time for my rights to be renewed the last time. Thank you for your consideration. Lightoil (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

 Automated comment This user was granted temporary page mover rights by HJ Mitchell (expires 00:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)). MusikBot talk 01:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


Pending changes reviewer

User:RowanJ LP

I've created many biographies and have a good understanding of Wikipedia policies. I've fixed vandalism many times and fixed many biography of living persons violations. RowanJ LP (talk) 15:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

User:RITWIK MAHATA

I am requesting for pending changes reviewer rights so that I can review pending changes. Ritwik Mahatat@lk 15:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Imsaneikigai

I have been editing for around 2.5 years now, with specialised focus on field of entertainment. I also often correct typos or do general fixes on articles of various subjects. I have a good knowledge of wikipedia policies and would like to get this pending changes reviewer rights to broaden by experience and get more expertise of Wikipedia. Imsaneikigai (talk) 12:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

User:AnAlpineSymphony

I have read all the articles and tips for reviewing pending edits. I also have a large, significant history of editing many Engkish and Korean articles about Academics, Music theory, etc. AnAlpineSymphony (talk) 05:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

User:AlphaBetaGamma

I've done reverting vandalism (Although I was on a hiatus since Golden Week as the vandal level hit 5) for some months now, with my edits growing over 2000 from 89ish including other works, and I request this permission to help with the works. I understand that I did make a misunderstandment couple of weeks ago and I have revised the guidelines to prevent another instance of that happening. (I've been making sure not to miss placing a uw as well). Not planning to request rollbacker until I stop making accidents. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

User:750h+

I have made some very high quality articles (Aston Martin DB9 FA and Aston Martin Rapide at FAC) so I am very familiar with what content is reliable and what is not. I have reverted vandalism (in fact, reverting vandalism was the first edit I made) and whenever i seen vandalism, I take extreme pride in reverting it. Best 750h+ 13:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello User:750h+ . Nice seeing you here! From a quick look at your contributions, it seems like you usually don't leave a warning when reverting vandalism nor an semi-automated edit summary. It's very easy to do with tools like WP:Twinkle. Could you start warning editors? —Femke 🐦 (talk) 12:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Oh, nice to see you here to. :) Noted. 750h+ 12:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Boneless Pizza!

I have watched listed several article that have been protected as "pending changes" such as Charizard and Woody (Toy Story) and I would love to have an option to accept their edits if its constructive. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 01:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Jonathanischoice

I've been editing Wikipedia since 2004 and have been mainly working on articles about New Zealand, musical instruments, and wine. I've helped build several articles up to GA (cimbasso, serpent, contrabass trombone, soprano trombone) and reviewed several others. It would be good to be able to approve pending useful contributions to protected articles; the current article that prompted this request is the trombone article, which I'd also like to work on. Jon (talk) 02:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Demetrios1993

I have been editing the English Wikipedia for about five years now, and have made approximately 7,300 edits. I am an active user, and currently monitor around 1400 pages. I also have a good understanding of the relevant policies and the guideline on reviewing; per the criteria to receive this permission. Demetrios1993 (talk) 02:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


Rollback

User:KingEdinburgh

Reverting vandalism on articles, especially on military bios. KingEdinburgh (talk) 05:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done You don't need rollback to undo inappropriate edits. If you're still interested in this tool then please spend at least a month actively patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are consistently warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 06:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Grabup

Currently working on AfC, and I also do patrolling at Special:RecentChanges when time permits. I want to get this right because of countering vandalism. GrabUp - Talk 08:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done 3 months. – robertsky (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

User:BerryForPerpetuity

I'm applying for rollback rights in order to help with my current recent changes patrolling. With rollback rights, I will gain access to more advanced counter-vandalism tools like AntiVandal and Huggle. I have been patrolling for about a month and made plenty of AIV reports (all of which were successful). BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 12:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Template editor

User:Remsense

I often edit language and formatting-related templates, some of which are highly transcluded and thus protected. Remsense 07:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Standard Guidelines review:
  1. Green tickY (guideline: >1 year, applicant: ~10)
  2. Green tickY (guideline: >1000 edits, applicant: ~15k)
  3. Green tickY (guideline: >150 template edits, applicant: ~400)
  4. Green tickY (guideline: !<6 months, applicant: NA)
  5. Green tickY (guideline: 3 sandboxes, applicant: 3)
  6. Green tickY (guideline: 5 requests, applicant: ~5)
Primefac (talk) 12:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 Done. Primefac (talk) 06:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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    I didn't particularly want to bring this here, since procedurally the close is sound. The AFD was left listed for the full 168 hours (and 9 minutes), and I'm sure, were I inclined to speculate, I could come up with a way a reasonable admin closer could have closed the discussion the same way. There were some last minute comments, but not being a stale discussion ordinarily would certainly not be grounds for an overturn or relist. My mistake for not nomming it on a weekend.

    That said, I believe the discussion I had with the closer patently does not meet the standards set out by WP:ADMINACCT, which non-administrator closers are also expected to adhere to. I won't tell you more than that I followed the rules and used the arguments raised in the discussion. is clearly not in any way, shape or form a justification, in my admittedly biased opinion. Additionally, while it is not the role of the closer (nor this review) to remedy a defective discussion, I believe (again, admitting my strong bias) any administrator exercising reasonable judgement would at least note the fact that a self-published book, as added by 扱. し. 侍. would not be considered a reliable source, and state whether they relied on that accordingly, if not instead relisted or left their own comment. That one of the others added a source that prominently displayed "Marketing Content" (תוכן שיווקי) at the top near the byline, is perhaps beyond the scope of a reasonable closer, applying an ordinary degree of scrutiny.

    In my opinion, at minimum, even if the result is endorsed, this should be re-closed by an uninvolved administrator in their individual capacity, and the closer advised not to do so in future. I am instead seeking a relist, or leave for an immediate renomination. Alpha3031 (tc) 11:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

    Here we are. My closure was not based on the book or the Marker source, as the nominator might think, but on a deep coverage provided by other reliable sources (including VentureBeat, Forbes staff, Globes, etc.) which were added during the discussion. I don't see a big issue in closing the discussion by the administrator as the nominator is biased and for some reason always mentions the weakest sources on the page. WP:BEFORE is a good rule and it must be followed. Not long ago, I nominated a page without a thorough review of sources and I was ashamed by the community. So, I was super attentive and skeptical in evaluating the sources of the page. BoraVoro (talk) 13:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
    removed from the page the self-published book and the Marker paid placement source (I didn't count on them while closing the discussion anyway). BoraVoro (talk) 13:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
    You are not required to analyse the sources, as the closer. You are, however, required to furnish an explanation of your process, as requested, and as you have done so now. Alpha3031 (tc) 13:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
    I see your point. As I mentioned before, I followed the discussion and based my decision on it. The arguments seemed valid, but I did look at and analyze the sources to determine if they are reliable, though I was not required to do so. BoraVoro (talk) 14:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
    That's fine. I'm happy to withdraw at this point, and have this closed per Owen's suggestion, provided you take to heart the feedback provided (which it appears you have) I think the explanation you provided here is meets the required standard, and if you chose to close XfDs again after a bit more experience, would be the type of thing we would look for, with a bit more back and forth to hash out the details, for example, on the appropriate level of scrutiny. Alpha3031 (tc) 15:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
    • Allow early renomination. The Keep !votes carry very little weight, which isn't surprising, seeing as they come from inexperienced users. One Keep was made by an account now used primarily for voting on AfDs, with a grand total of 52 edits to their name. The lone "per nom if not A7" Delete was also weak. A competent admin could have discarded all but the nom, and relisted to get more meaningful participation. As it stands, this is essentially little more than a contested PROD. Both the closing rationale and the closer's response above reads very much like a supervote. The closer's job is to weigh consensus among legitimate participants, not carry out their own source analysis.
    Conduct aside, I can't fault the NAC for being duped by what superficially appears to be a clear consensus, so I don't think an outright overturn is called for. I also don't want to relist the same AfD, already tainted by weak !votes. A fresh AfD in a month, closed by an admin (or by an experienced, competent NAC, if applicable), is the way to go here. BoraVoro would be well advised to stay away from closing XfDs until they gain more experience, and perhaps just as importantly, learn how to interact with fellow editors. This type of dismissive tone in response to a legitimate query is incompatible with administrative actions. Owen× 13:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
    @OwenX thanks! BoraVoro (talk) 13:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
    • Allow early/speedy renomination per OwenX. Relisting this is not going to give the best chance of achieving consensus so a new nomination in a few weeks would absolutely be a better choice, to start afresh so to speak. I also agree with Owen's comments that it was an inappropriate response to the talk page query about XfD by the closer, and support his advice regarding the closer staying away from XfD closes for a while. (While DRV is not a conduct forum, the nature of a response by a closer on a talk page is something that definitely falls within its purview.) Daniel (talk) 22:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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