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All facts should be added not just those that support a political agenda.

For example the quotes of environmentalist should be included on any global warming discussion to put things in perspective.

“I think if we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have a chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecologically sound society under socialism. I don’t think it’s possible under capitalism.” —Judi Bari, Earth First! member. [Environmentalism equals replacing capitalism with socialism.]

“The environmentalist’s dream is an egalitarian society, based on rejection of economic growth, a smaller population, eating lower on the food chain, consuming a lot less, and sharing a much lower level of resources much more equally.” —Aaron Wildavsky, political scientist and professor. [Environmentalism equals making everybody equal; that is, it’s communism.]

“No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits... [C]limate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.” —Christine Stewart, Canadian Environment Minister. [Environmentalism equals changing the world.]

“We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists, and their projects... We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers, and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land.” —David Foreman, EarthFirst! member. [Environmentalism equals a return to primitive living.]

“We’ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing, in terms of economic policy and environmental policy —Timothy Wirth, Clinton Administration U.S. Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs, and one of a number of politicians (including Barbara Boxer, Barney Frank, Al Gore, John Kerry, Christopher Shays, and others) who were designated as “Green Leadership for the ‘90s.” [Environmentalism equals changing policy by claiming ? even without substantiation ? it’s necessary to save the world’s environment.]

“[W]e have to offer up scary scenarios [about global warming and destruction of the environment], make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts one might have... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” —Stephen Schneider, Stanford University environmentalist. [Environmentalism equals lies “if necessary.”]

“We routinely wrote scare stories about the hazards of chemicals, employing words like “cancer,” and “birth defects” to splash a little cold water in reporters’ faces... Our press reports were more or less true... Few handouts, however, can be completely honest, and ours were no exception... We were out to whip the public into a frenzy about the environment.” —Jim Sibbison, former EPA press officer. [Environmentalism equals government-sponsored deception.]

“Not only do journalists not have a responsibility to report what skeptical scientists have to say about global warming, they have a responsibility not to report what these scientists say.” —Ross Gelbspan, former editor of The Boston Globe. [Environmentalism equals silencing debate, and stifling contrary opinions.]

“I would freely admit that on [global warming] we have crossed the boundary from news reporting to advocacy.” —Charles Alexander, Time magazine science editor. [Environmentalism equals indoctrination.]

(They don't love the environment, they just hate people)

Lenin on "How to attack the west" - "Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby: Get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. Destroy the peoples faith in their natural leaders by holding up the latter to ridicule, contempt and obloquy. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of government towards such disorders. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view that confiscating them would leave the population defenseless." Vladimir Ilich Lenin

The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate

"Protecting the Environment' is a ruse. The goal is the political and economic subjugation of most men by the few, under the guise of preserving nature." J. H. Robbins

Frightening Quotes from Environmentalists (Attack Of The Socialist-Luddites)

"The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state."

—Kenneth Boulding, originator of the “Spaceship Earth” concept (as quoted by William Tucker in Progress and Privilege, 1982)

We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion—guilt-free at last!

—Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue).

Free Enterprise really means rich people get richer. They have the freedom to exploit and psychologically rape their fellow human beings in the process…. Capitalism is destroying the earth.

—Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists

"We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects…. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land."

—David Foreman, Earth First!

"Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed."

—Pentti Linkola

"If you ask me, it’d be a little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy because of what we would do with it. We ought to be looking for energy sources that are adequate for our needs, but that won’t give us the excesses of concentrated energy with which we could do mischief to the earth or to each other."

—Amory Lovins in The Mother Earth–Plowboy Interview, Nov/Dec 1977, p.22

"The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world."

—John Shuttleworth

"What we’ve got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."

—Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)

"I suspect that eradicating smallpox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems."

—John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs."

—John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing....This is not to say that the rise of human civilization is insignificant, but there is no way of showing that it will be much help to the world in the long run."

—Economist editorial

"We advocate biodiversity for biodiversity’s sake. It may take our extinction to set things straight."

—David Foreman, Earth First!

"Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental."

—Dave Forman, Founder of Earth First!

"If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS"

—Earth First! Newsletter

"Human happiness, and certainly human fecundity, is not as important as a wild and healthy planets…Some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along."

—David Graber, biologist, National Park Service

"The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans."

—Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project "If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."

—Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund

"Cannibalism is a “radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation.”

—Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995

"Poverty For “Those People”

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels."

—Carl Amery

"Every time you turn on an electric light, you are making another brainless baby."

—Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists

"To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem."

—Lamont Cole

"If there is going to be electricity, I would like it to be decentralized, small, solar-powered."

—Gar Smith, editor of the Earth Island Institute’s online magazine The Edge

"The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States: We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. And it is important to the rest of the world to make sure that they don’t suffer economically by virtue of our stopping them."

—Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

"The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population."

—Reid Bryson, “Global Ecology; Readings towards a rational strategy for Man”, (1971)

"The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer."

—Paul Ehrlich, in The Population Bomb (1968)

"I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000."

—Paul Ehrlich in (1969)

"In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish."

—Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

"Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity…in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion."

—Paul Ehrlich in (1976)

"This [cooling] trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century."

—Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976

"There are ominous signs that the earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production—with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon… The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it."

—Newsweek, April 28, (1975)

"This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000."

—Lowell Ponte in “The Cooling”, 1976

"If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000. … This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age."

—Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970)

MORE. "People are the cause of all the problems; we have too many of them; we need to get rid of some of them, and this (ban of DDT) is as good a way as any." Charles Wurster, Environmental Defense Fund

"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish." ---Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day 1970

"Five years is all we have left if we are going to preserve any kind of quality in the world." ---Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day 1970

"In a decade, America's mighty rivers will have reached the boiling point." ---Edwin Newman, Earth Day 1970 (GLOBAL WARMING)

"If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age." ---Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day 1970. (GLOBAL COOLING)

"We've got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing -- in terms of economic socialism and environmental policy." Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)

"The historical experience of socialist countries has sadly demonstrated that collectivism does not do away with alienation but rather increases it, adding to it a lack of basic necessities and economic inefficiency." Pope John Paul I

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and hence clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H. L. Mencken

"'Protecting the Environment' is a ruse. The goal is the political and economic subjugation of most men by the few, under the guise of preserving nature." J. H. Robbins

"There is nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine . . . been here 4 1/2 billion years. We've been here, what, a 100,000 years, maybe 200,000. And we've only been engaged in heavy industry a little over 200 years. 200 years versus 4 1/2 billion. And we have the conceit to think that somehow we're a threat? The planet isn't going away. We are." George Carlin (Making fun of socialists)

The abandonment of the gold standard made it possible for the welfare statists to use the banking system as a means to an unlimited expansion of credit.... In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value.... Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the "hidden" confiscation of wealth.... [Gold] stands as a protector of property rights. 1966 Alan Greenspan

Global Sustainability requires: "the deliberate quest of poverty . . . reduced resource consumption . . . and set levels of mortality control." Professor Maurice King

"Allowing the EPA to condone continued use of a chemical whenever the benefits outweighs the risks is absolutely anathema to the environmental community." Janet Hathaway, Natural Resources Defense Council

The Environmentalist's Dream is an Egalitarian Society based on: rejection of economic growth, a smaller population, eating lower on the food chain, consuming a lot less, and sharing a much lower level of resources much more equally. Aaron Wildavsky

"A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect." Richard Benedict, State Dept. employee working on assignment from the Conservation Foundation

"...the only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States: We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. And it is important to the rest of the world to make sure that they don't suffer economically by virtue of our stopping them." Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." Thomas Jefferson

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L.Mencken

"Nuclear power must be dealt with irrationally. . . . Nuclear plants are carcinogens. Let's get that story out. . . . Their lies will catch up to them. We need endless Chernobyl reminders." Ralph Nader

Cannibalism is a "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995

"The necessary consequence of an egalitarian program is the decidedly inegalitarian creation of a ruthless power elite." M. N. Rothbard

Global Sustainability requires: "the deliberate quest of poverty . . . reduced resource consumption . . . and set levels of mortality control." Professor Maurice King

"Giving society cheap, abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun." Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

"The secret to David McTaggart's (early officer in Greenpeace) success is the secret to Greenpeace's success: It doesn't matter what is true . . . . it only matters what people believe is true . . . . You are what the media define you to be. [Greenpeace] became a myth, and a myth-generating machine." Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace

". . . a year is about one-fifth of the time we have left if we are going to preserve any kind of quality in our world." Garrett de Bell (1970)

"The move toward controlling less and less pollution at greater and greater expense --until you are spending everything to control nothing -- is one of the big water quality problems we are facing in the future." Ernest Rosenberg

"Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover the source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it." Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

". . . the Planning Commission must say 'no' to development . . . Austin, Texas, is showing us about land use . . . . " Judge Armstrong, Kentucky County

"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." M. N. Rothbard

"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day. But a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers (administrations), too plainly proves a deliberate systematic plan of reducing us to slavery." Thomas Jefferson

"We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects . . . We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land." David Foreman, Earth First!

". . . There is no such thing in America as an independent press . . . We are the tools and vassals for rich men behind the scenes . . . Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." John Swinton, former New York Times Chief of Staff

"We have the opportunity to avoid choices like nuclear power which will come back to haunt us 30 years from now." Russell Peterson, National Audubon Society President

". . . The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans." Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project

". . . as radical environmentalists, we can see AIDS not as a problem, but as a necessary solution." Miss Ann Thropy (pseudonym), Earth First! Journal

"The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing . . . This is not to say that the rise of human civilization is insignificant, but there is no way of showing that it will be much help to the world in the long run." Economist editorial "Americans are a cancer on the planet." ---Paul Ehrlich 1970

"A baby born in the U.S. represents twice the disaster for Earth as one born in Sweden or the USSR." ---Paul Ehrlich, "Too Many Rich Folks"

"It is the rich who dump most of the carbon dioxide and CFC's into the atmosphere." ---Paul Ehrlich, "Too Many Rich Folks"

"The rich are wood chipping many tropical forests in order to make cardboard to wrap their electronic products." ---Paul Ehrlich, "Too Many Rich Folks"

"It was a misfortune for the living world in particular, many scientists believe, that a carnivorous primate and not some more benign form of animal life made the breakthrough. Our species retains hereditary traits that add greatly to our destructive impact." ---Edward Wilson, "Is Humanity Suicidal" The New York Times Magazine: May 30, 1993

"I suspect that the politicians and businessmen who are jumping on the environment bandwagon don't have the slightest idea of what they are getting into. They are talking about emission control devices on automobiles, while we are talking about bans on automobiles." Dennis Hayes, Earth Day Agenda (1970)

"The invention of the concept of sustainable human development and that of so-called human security, as opposed to territorial security of nation-states, and its promotion by the UN is in clear contradiction to all that we, the Group of 77, and the UN Charter itself consider inalienable, namely national sovereignty and security." Pranab Mukherjee, India's Minister of Commerce, Earth Times, 15 October 1994

"It's (the prospect of cheap fusion energy) the worst thing that could happen to the planet." Jeremy Rifkin

"No case for expensive policies for safeguarding species can be made without more extensive analysis." Endangered Species Blueprint, National Wilderness Institute

"If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund

"They want timid, helpless people who are anxious to get in touch with their inner child, enter twelve-step programs, and run to the government with every little problem." Clark Stooksbury

". . . Our production and consumption is not sustainable . . . Agenda 21 is to be implemented . . . The Texas Sustainable Energy Development Council will develop the Texas Plan . . . The money will come from milking the utilities and redirecting oil overcharge funds . . . . " Commissioner Karl Rabago, Texas Public Utilities Commission

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" Maurice Strong, Head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro

"Behind the honeyed but patently absurd pleas for equality is a ruthless drive for placing 'the new elite' at the top of a new hierarchy of power." M. N. Rothbard

"Pure guesswork has become the basis of a forecast that has been published in newspapers to be read and understood as a scientific statement." Endangered Species Blueprint, National Wilderness Institute

"Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian Religious tradition." Peter Singer, the "Father of Animal Rights"

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate

"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 per day." Dr. Jacques Cousteau

"I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems." John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"We reject the idea of private property." Peter Berle, President of the National Audubon Society

"Measured on virtually any scale, the world is in worse shape than it was 20 years ago."Dennis Hayes, Chairman of Earth Day 1990

"The world has cancer, and the cancer is man." A. Gregg, Mankind at the Turning Point

"This is a political game. It has nothing to do with science. It has nothing to do with health and safety." Sherry Neddick, Greenpeace

"Free Enterprise really means rich people get richer. They have the freedom to exploit and psychologically rape their fellow human beings in the process . . . Capitalism is destroying the earth." Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists

"The only proper purpose of a government is to protect man's rights . . ." Ayn Rand

"Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion." Murray Rothbard

"No government knows any limits to its power except the endurance of the people." Lysander Spooner

"The real culprits are those who created a system that makes it dangerous to work and safe to loaf." Thomas Sowell

"The three branches of government . . . are not, in any sense, 'branches' since that would imply that there is something they are all attached to besides self-aggrandizement and our pocketbooks." P. J. O'Rourke Lenin on "How to attack the west" - "Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby: Get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. Destroy the peoples faith in their natural leaders by holding up the latter to ridicule, contempt and obloquy. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of government towards such disorders. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view that confiscating them would leave the population defenseless."

Vladimir Ilich Lenin 1921